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August 11, 2021, 08:30:50 PM
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Contracts have been signed for Anderson Silva to box with Tito Ortiz in the co-main event of the Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort card on September 11, and it is organized by Triller.
Both of them are well known MMA fighters active until recently in UFC, one of the best known MMA organizations, so it will be interesting fight to watch.
Andreson Silva is 46 years with 34-11-0 MMA record, and Tito Ortiz is also 46 years old with record 21-12-1.


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August 11, 2021, 08:47:03 PM
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Anderson Silva all day long. He's had a semi decent career in boxing too. The only thing I'm concerned with is Triller is hosting this. I don't tend to watch too much boxing these days, at least since UFC entered my life, however I'm a little concerned about Triller because the last event I tuned in for them was the Jake Paul vs Ben Askren fight, and is was absolutely awful from a fighting fan perspective. It was like a music concert rather than a fight night. I can't recall watching many of their other events though, so that might have just been an exception due to the fighters they had on that night.

Triller seem to be the king of white collar boxing, and cross sport fights in a boxing ring at the moment.
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August 11, 2021, 08:48:41 PM
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It seems this match has created quite a news in the betting market. Because it's just been few hours after the announcement and the internet is literally flooded with comments and opinions.

For me, Anderson Silva is far ahead of Tito. The matter if fact that both are ex UFC fighter, but Tito last fought his UFC match back in 2012 while Anderson fought his last UFC match in 2020. Also Tito has set foot in politics after his UFC career ended. I don't think Anderson would have any issue in winning here. But there are many think that goes in the background that we commoners don't know.

In a day or two, the gambling odds will start to come out so we will be able to see what the bookies are thinking. But in sports, we must expect the unexpected!

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August 11, 2021, 08:54:17 PM
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For me, Anderson Silva is far ahead of Tito. The matter if fact that both are ex UFC fighter, but Tito last fought his UFC match back in 2012 while Anderson fought his last UFC match in 2020. Also Tito has set foot in politics after his UFC career ended. I don't think Anderson would have any issue in winning here. But there are many think that goes in the background that we commoners don't know.
Can't really judge Tito due to the lack of recent fights, but Anderson certainly hasn't looked his best in his last few outings in the UFC.

In a day or two, the gambling odds will start to come out so we will be able to see what the bookies are thinking. But in sports, we must expect the unexpected!
I'm expecting the odds to heavily favour Anderson. The fact is; most betters will also bet on Anderson Silva due to the fact that he's more famous outside of UFC than Tito.
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August 11, 2021, 08:57:20 PM
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They want to hype like Tyson and RJJ, but their fight wont generate a lot of ppv and profit. If Im not wrong, then Ortiz has a wrestling background, and spider is more striking guy.

avikz - Ortiz last fight was in 2019 with a low class fighter, but in 2018 he fought Chuck Liddell and won by KO.

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August 11, 2021, 09:37:46 PM
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Contracts have been signed for Anderson Silva to box with Tito Ortiz in the co-main event of the Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort card on September 11, and it is organized by Triller.
Both of them are well known MMA fighters active until recently in UFC, one of the best known MMA organizations, so it will be interesting fight to watch.
Andreson Silva is 46 years with 34-11-0 MMA record, and Tito Ortiz is also 46 years old with record 21-12-1.

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This is a good match for both boxers, based on age they're compatible which I believed to be an exciting fight.
I am hoping the fight would commence successfully, and no postpone going to happen same with Erol Spence and Pacman. My bet for this coming fight was for Anderson Silva, because on his experience on Boxing all alone was really interesting due to several fights he had and all history was doing great. Though Ortiz also got good records, but it's just the MMA which he was focusing with.
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August 11, 2021, 10:05:45 PM
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For me, Anderson Silva is far ahead of Tito. The matter if fact that both are ex UFC fighter, but Tito last fought his UFC match back in 2012 while Anderson fought his last UFC match in 2020. Also Tito has set foot in politics after his UFC career ended. I don't think Anderson would have any issue in winning here. But there are many think that goes in the background that we commoners don't know.
Can't really judge Tito due to the lack of recent fights, but Anderson certainly hasn't looked his best in his last few outings in the UFC.

In a day or two, the gambling odds will start to come out so we will be able to see what the bookies are thinking. But in sports, we must expect the unexpected!
I'm expecting the odds to heavily favour Anderson. The fact is; most betters will also bet on Anderson Silva due to the fact that he's more famous outside of UFC than Tito.

The most recent fight of Anderson Silva is against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., and unexpectedly Silva won by a split decision. We all know who JCC Jr, is, a pro-boxer, but Silva defeated him last June 2021, it was on a weight on 182 lbs.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/6/20/22542048/anderson-silva-pulls-off-upset-to-beat-julio-cesar-chavez-jr-by-split-decision-in-return-to-boxing

With the strength of that win, I agree that Silva will be the favourite here. Tito might just be fighting for the money here.

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August 11, 2021, 10:27:50 PM
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Yeah, Anderson has looked decent to be honest whenever I've seen him take a step into boxing. Not surprising since he was one of the best strikers in the UFC. I just can't bet against a legend of that magnitude, even if he hasn't looked as good in recent MMA bouts. Boxing, as you say he's looked somewhat good with a unexpected win recently.

With the strength of that win, I agree that Silva will be the favourite here. Tito might just be fighting for the money here.
Not like I would blame them to be honest. It's quite well documented that boxing generally pays more to its fighters than the UFC. Although, I'm not entirely sure what the shares or total number of this fight is, I'm sure its probably still better than most of their UFC careers.

avikz - Ortiz last fight was in 2019 with a low class fighter, but in 2018 he fought Chuck Liddell and won by KO.
Chuck Liddell might have not been at his absolute best that night, but having a win over Chuck looks good on anyone's record. 2019 is a fair amount of time to have a lay off from fighting, especially considering their age.
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August 11, 2021, 10:34:25 PM
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They want to hype like Tyson and RJJ, but their fight wont generate a lot of ppv and profit. If Im not wrong, then Ortiz has a wrestling background, and spider is more striking guy.

avikz - Ortiz last fight was in 2019 with a low class fighter, but in 2018 he fought Chuck Liddell and won by KO.
Considering that they are an MMA fighter and now on a boxing ring, I don’t think many will support this match. Both are too old already to see an intense fight, they may have a good records on MMA but that can’t help to boost the views. Though they are fighting undercard with De La Hoya, that can only be the reason for a viewers to watch this match. Its hard to predict this match, the odds might not help.
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August 11, 2021, 10:39:04 PM
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Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort

Oscar crossing into MMA is more surprising than old guys Silva and Tito Ortiz coming back to the cage. No matter how old they got now, they still come back like there is a transaction to settle.

I would bet for Dela Hoya for this one, I do think this isn't going to be an exhibition fight. If he is going to be pinned to the ground though, it's his end. Hope he trains to avoid take down.

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August 11, 2021, 10:40:57 PM
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It's better to add the main event as well, Dela Hoya and Belfort. I will put my money on Oscar here, I think he has all the advantage being the boxer and one of the best during his prime.

As for the Silva vs Ortiz, I agree with the majority, Silva might pull a unanimous decision here or even a KO win in the latter rounds. Tito Ortiz usually gasses out and with Silva performing very well against Chavez Jr, I think he has the confidence and motivation to continue and maybe after this fight, we will challenge another boxer.

As far as PPV, the name Dela Hoya still have some following, so I think it will be a decent numbers.

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Oscar crossing into MMA is more surprising than old guys Silva and Tito Ortiz coming back to the cage. No matter how old they got now, they still come back like there is a transaction to settle.

I would bet for Dela Hoya for this one, I do think this isn't going to be an exhibition fight. If he is going to be pinned to the ground though, it's his end. Hope he trains to avoid take down.

This is not a MMA fight, this is a boxing match. Even Oscar said he want the California State Athletic Commission to sanction this as professional boxing match with judges scoring.

However, this seems to be just an exhibition match, same with others we have seen like the Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr. So Vitor Belfort is at a disadvantage and not Oscar so the better advise is that he trains like a boxer because there will be no take downs.

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Oscar crossing into MMA is more surprising than old guys Silva and Tito Ortiz coming back to the cage. No matter how old they got now, they still come back like there is a transaction to settle.

I would bet for Dela Hoya for this one, I do think this isn't going to be an exhibition fight. If he is going to be pinned to the ground though, it's his end. Hope he trains to avoid take down.

This is not a MMA fight, this is a boxing match. Even Oscar said he want the California State Athletic Commission to sanction this as professional boxing match with judges scoring.

However, this seems to be just an exhibition match, same with others we have seen like the Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr. So Vitor Belfort is at a disadvantage and not Oscar so the better advise is that he trains like a boxer because there will be no take downs.

Probably that's one way of Oscar promoting this fight. But we all know that the sanctioning body will not allow this to be called "professional fights". This is all business of making money. Oscar even said before the he want to face Canelo on his comeback fight, LOL.

Silva could take this win easily, even in MMA Tito's striking is not that good, just look at his Liddell fight, he tries to go toe to toe and gets KO. While Silva has already experience fighting JCC Jr and won that fight.

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August 11, 2021, 10:54:26 PM
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Logan Paul, Anderson Silva in talks for boxing fight in 2021

Social media star Logan Paul and UFC legend Anderson Silva are in talks for a high-profile boxing match in 2021 according to his manager.

https://sports.yahoo.com/logan-paul-anderson-silva-talks-170100513.html

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Would rather see Anderson Silva vs Logan Paul.

Tito Ortiz could be even less of a boxer than Logan Paul is. Silva looked impressive in his last boxing outing against Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. Ortiz is a big step down in competition. It is possible Silva is having trouble finding fights against legit boxers, which is the only reason this fight is being made.

Silva is known for having trained and sparred in big name boxing gyms like Freddie Roach's Wild Card gym. Which is a high level boxing gym full of good boxers. And done well in there.

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August 11, 2021, 11:15:02 PM
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Oh this should be fun.  I loved watching Anderson silva fight.  Definitely different then seeing him in the octagon.  Interested seeing how this one will turn out.  More and more cross over fights are happening.  Guess the box office is making the dough on these.  Anyone know how much these guys are fighting for?

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August 11, 2021, 11:31:35 PM
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Not spoiling the fun here but this fight was over hype.

MMA fighters switching to boxing and hitting almost the 50 years of age, it's just all about money and I don't see any passion. The reason why other pure boxers don't like the idea of cross over and exhibition match.

Betting sites listed it right away because it will be a big market. Don't get me wrong, I might put a few bucks here depends on the situation.

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August 11, 2021, 11:48:24 PM
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Contracts have been signed for Anderson Silva to box with Tito Ortiz in the co-main event of the Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort card on September 11, and it is organized by Triller.
Both of them are well known MMA fighters active until recently in UFC, one of the best known MMA organizations, so it will be interesting fight to watch.
Andreson Silva is 46 years with 34-11-0 MMA record, and Tito Ortiz is also 46 years old with record 21-12-1.
Tito Ortiz and Andreson Silva are of the same age but Andreson Silva is far superior fighter than Tito Ortiz and his main skill was wrestling and not boxing and on the other hand Anderson Silva is known for his striking and he even defeated Julio César Chávez Jr in his last bout in June this year who was a well accomplished boxer and looking by that standard there is no way Tito Ortiz is going to last 6 rounds  Cheesy.
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August 11, 2021, 11:55:25 PM
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Not spoiling the fun here but this fight was over hype.

MMA fighters switching to boxing and hitting almost the 50 years of age, it's just all about money and I don't see any passion. The reason why other pure boxers don't like the idea of cross over and exhibition match.

Betting sites listed it right away because it will be a big market. Don't get me wrong, I might put a few bucks here depends on the situation.

There's no doubt that they are also after for the purse here. Exhibition fights of non professional boxers. And by the way, what crypto betting sites have you seen this match as I haven't seen it in popular sportsbooks? And of course, I need to check under boxing and not MMA category, is that right? This kind of fight is still selling as we are still in pandemic and people want live fights, better than pre-recorded fights.
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August 12, 2021, 12:08:11 AM
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Looks like this one is one of the good fights from all of those exhibition fights. Ortiz has some good records when he was in the MMA and the fight is fair since they going to box instead of going all out. The match will give Silva an advantage since the guy was a professional boxer before he came to UFC and Ortiz has already some age in his pocket and I think he will hardly hit his opponent at this rate. Well, it's just an exhibition fight anyway, if things go well for Ortiz he can actually turn the table here.

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August 12, 2021, 12:15:23 AM
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The full fight between Silva and Chavez jr is still in youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFThOW8hS0A

As you can see Silva won and he has a good high guard too. Probably after 3 rounds, the wear and tear on Tito Ortiz will show and probably be tired by that time. I don't think this will last and Silva by a knock out win.

@yazher - I doubt that Ortiz can turn the table here, three months ago Silva won so he is the active of the two.

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Wow! What a set of fights Triller is promoting these days. Surely not very impressive but the names are huge enough to draw easy money. It makes me interested still.

Anyway, Silva has definitely the upper hand against Ortiz and Dela Hoya against Belfort. I'm curious why didn't they just pair Silva and Dela Hoya instead and Ortiz and Belfort for the co-main event? I guess it's fairer that way.

Anyway, it's their business. Excited for the odds.

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If Tito Ortiz wins he needs to call out Dana White.

That's a fight I might pay to see.

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August 12, 2021, 03:07:03 AM
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The full fight between Silva and Chavez jr is still in youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFThOW8hS0A

As you can see Silva won and he has a good high guard too. Probably after 3 rounds, the wear and tear on Tito Ortiz will show and probably be tired by that time. I don't think this will last and Silva by a knock out win.

@yazher - I doubt that Ortiz can turn the table here, three months ago Silva won so he is the active of the two.

it was very recent that silva won a boxing match yes he is active in both sports. his reach advantage over ortiz will still be a winning advantage for him.
but these are exhibition fights. i doubt it will be listed on betting sports in crypto. this is just for them to make money. Triller Fight Club is for celebrities who can act on the stage like WWE.









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August 12, 2021, 03:31:50 AM
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I'm an MMA enthusiast but I don't see the fight as exciting.

If they will come back at the octagon, that's more exciting and not just what we can call an exhibition match. But I agree that it was Triller so they will arrange fights and matches that are not expected.

On the other hand, I like the main card between DelaHoya and Belfort because that was an official fight and it will be listed on the professional record.
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I predict spider to win this fight. It will be hard no to hit Titos giant head  Cheesy
Will it be entertaining for spectators - only old fans will find it interesting. New mma and boxing fans will most likely skip that event.

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I'm an MMA enthusiast but I don't see the fight as exciting.

If they will come back at the octagon, that's more exciting and not just what we can call an exhibition match. But I agree that it was Triller so they will arrange fights and matches that are not expected.

On the other hand, I like the main card between DelaHoya and Belfort because that was an official fight and it will be listed on the professional record.

Is this true? the Dela Hoya vs Belfort will be a full boxing and professional rule? I thought the commission or whatever governing body that approved it says that it will be an exhibition match?

Nevertheless, I'm also not excited for this event, all for the business and that those retired MMA fighters can still earn some decent money in this pandemic. But I doubt that either of the 3 will make a come back fight in the Octagon, but then again if the price is right then why not.
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Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz they are boxers who have had a good career in the UFC championship, they both have expertise in mixed martial arts, Tito Ortiz and Anderson Silva have the best current records in MMA, sports media especially boxing, nowadays almost every page is talking about them.

I will not miss this boxing, although in terms of record, winning and losing both are not much different, what is clear is that this is an event that many boxing fans have been waiting for, honestly this time I will side with the brazil boxers.

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I predict spider to win this fight. It will be hard no to hit Titos giant head  Cheesy
Will it be entertaining for spectators - only old fans will find it interesting. New mma and boxing fans will most likely skip that event.

Yeah but they slow right due to age and reduce training routine so maybe Tito can catch up now to Silva since this game will gonna be a slow phase. I still bet for Silva if I will gonna have time to watch this fight but this is just a merely exhibition match so we can expect different things happened.

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August 12, 2021, 08:44:49 AM
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Contracts have been signed for Anderson Silva to box with Tito Ortiz in the co-main event of the Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort card on September 11, and it is organized by Triller.
Both of them are well known MMA fighters active until recently in UFC, one of the best known MMA organizations, so it will be interesting fight to watch.
Andreson Silva is 46 years with 34-11-0 MMA record, and Tito Ortiz is also 46 years old with record 21-12-1.


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Silva has just beaten Julio Cezar Chavez Jr. and Chavez Jr. is not an easy opponent he is a ranked boxer, and because of this we can consider Silva as a favorite against Ortiz, Ortiz is a good MMA fighter but I don't know about his boxing skills, boxing and MMA are totally different skills, on boxing you must know how to pace yourself because it's a long fight and the impact of the punch is not that hard compared to globes used in MMA.

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This is a good match yet will be a tough fight for Ortiz. As for me, despite having the same age, Silva has an advantage since he has a longer boxing career experience. I've seen how Silva moved in the boxing ring during his previous matches so I guess Ortiz is now preparing hard for this fight.
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This is a good match yet will be a tough fight for Ortiz. As for me, despite having the same age, Silva has an advantage since he has a longer boxing career experience. I've seen how Silva moved in the boxing ring during his previous matches so I guess Ortiz is now preparing hard for this fight.
Not to mention that this is a redemption for Silva I think, he had a lot of rough fight recently so I don't exactly think that this fight will be a guarantee for Silva plus Ortiz is a bruiser so I don't think that we're going to see an easy fight but an entertaining fight nonetheless.

I don't think though that there is a story line in this fight, Silva doesn't need any redemption fight, he is retired but come back last June and then defeated a boxer in JCC. This is a going to be a boxing match so I think Silva will be the favorite because he beat a former MW champion in JCC. Yes, during Ortiz time in the UFC he is a bruiser but this is boxing, you need to always put your hands up to defend yourself. He can't just bulldoze his way and take down Silva.

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That's on me, thought the box meant to duke it out in the octagon. Yes you're right that Ortiz can't bulldoze but I think the punches that he will deliver is going to be felt by Silva given that he is a bruiser.

Anderson is so good at ducking and avoiding getting hit, he is good for boxing compared to MMA where you employ wrestling, I consider Silva the favorite on this fight, because of his winning against Chavez JR. but he is fighting Ortiz who also has powerfull punches, Silva should have turned boxer earlier in his fighting career because he is good at it.

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August 12, 2021, 01:17:40 PM
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Lol.  Crazy main and co main events.  Silva obviously is the favorite even without checking the line to make sure as he is one of best strikers in MMA history.

Lines for the matches are available here:  https://www.proboxingodds.com/#

Silva at 1.13.  No value.  Silva via decision should bring that line up but not sure by how much. 

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August 12, 2021, 01:52:57 PM
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Feels like they are turning back the time where Ortiz had been wearing speedo.  Silva 1:13 is  very insulting to Ortiz, is he really that bad already?

I searched the fight of Anderson last Jun,  he still isn't like he used to. It make sense for this to be just an exhibition fights and no kicking this time because given that his leg has cracks, he is very fragile.



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August 12, 2021, 09:00:08 PM
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Anderson Silva all day long. He's had a semi decent career in boxing too.
I am not sure about this, looking at his previous fights and general condition I think he is done with fighting and this is last chance for taking some profit.
This is boxing so advantage may be on Silva side, but I think we are going to have some special rules like always from Triller.
Odds are crazy low on Anderson Silva to win, and anyone betting on Ortiz to win can earn almost 6 times money if he wins by some miracle Smiley

They want to hype like Tyson and RJJ, but their fight wont generate a lot of ppv and profit. If Im not wrong, then Ortiz has a wrestling background, and spider is more striking guy.
This is only co-main event for main event of the night Oscar De La Hoya vs Vitor Belfort so they don't need to advertise so much.
Most Tito Ortiz wins are by KO or TKO but it's true that his background is wrestling and his last three fights was wins, unlike Silva who lost seven from eight last matches.

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August 12, 2021, 11:05:07 PM
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Contracts have been signed for Anderson Silva to box with Tito Ortiz in the co-main event of the Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort card on September 11, and it is organized by Triller.
Both of them are well known MMA fighters active until recently in UFC, one of the best known MMA organizations, so it will be interesting fight to watch.
Andreson Silva is 46 years with 34-11-0 MMA record, and Tito Ortiz is also 46 years old with record 21-12-1.


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If this is an MMA fight Ortiz could have been the heavy favorite but it turns out a boxing match so I go for Silva because of his split decision wins against Chavez JR and his boxing experience although he only had 2 fights enough to prove to the boxing world that he has what it takes to box and beat ranked boxers, I haven't seen Ortiz fought in boxing I have doubt if he can make an easy shift from MMA to boxing.


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August 13, 2021, 01:41:39 AM
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This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

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August 13, 2021, 02:06:45 AM
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If Tito Ortiz wins he needs to call out Dana White.

That's a fight I might pay to see.
LOL, yeah I would love to see that match as well.

Before that happens, he needs one solid punch to land on Silva's chin because that will most likely take him out. I think he punches harder than Weidman despite being older. Silva can dance around with his superior footwork while landing those jabs but I don't think he has enough power.
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I don't think though that there is a story line in this fight, Silva doesn't need any redemption fight, he is retired but come back last June and then defeated a boxer in JCC. This is a going to be a boxing match so I think Silva will be the favorite because he beat a former MW champion in JCC. Yes, during Ortiz time in the UFC he is a bruiser but this is boxing, you need to always put your hands up to defend yourself. He can't just bulldoze his way and take down Silva.
That's on me, thought the box meant to duke it out in the octagon. Yes you're right that Ortiz can't bulldoze but I think the punches that he will deliver is going to be felt by Silva given that he is a bruiser.

I do agree though, if Ortiz can just land one solid punch on Silva, it might be a different story.

But Silva gets a win against a legitimate middleweight in JCC, but I don't think that he was hit solidly as he moves and tries to avoid a big punch. And Silva doesn't have that power either, if Ortiz chin will hold then it will be a long fight and could go either direction.

Dana vs Ortiz? yeah, why not that will be a good one for exhibition.

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August 22, 2021, 11:38:17 PM
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This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

Yes, this is the trend now, ex-MMA still trying to make money because of the pandemic. But I don't see any real contender though wanting to fight the likes of Silva. Tito is also a wash up fighter, but if we are going to base on who's active, Silva might have the edge. I'm also not interested on buying this in PPV, just a waste of money. But for those hardcore fans of both fighters, they might go for it.

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August 23, 2021, 01:53:06 AM
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This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

Yes, this is the trend now, ex-MMA still trying to make money because of the pandemic. But I don't see any real contender though wanting to fight the likes of Silva. Tito is also a wash up fighter, but if we are going to base on who's active, Silva might have the edge. I'm also not interested on buying this in PPV, just a waste of money. But for those hardcore fans of both fighters, they might go for it.

I agree that this is now fast becoming a trend. But I don't think this is them making money because of the pandemic. This is simply them, retired fighters, making money well beyond their golden days.

This trend is more like only the entertainment in sports entertainment. Silva can box, yes, but he's not really a boxer. As for the old Tito, he's even less of a boxer than Silva. So I don't know what they are going to show to the fans except that they're two big names of old trying to put up a fight in a sport they both didn't excel.

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We all know both of Silva and Tito are top MMA fighters, Tito has more weight 205 lb compared to Silva with 185 lb. Tito is more like a brawler and very good martial arts like kungfu and karate. While Silva is good in taekwondo, muay thai, and boxing, he already show his boxing power when he fight with Chavez Jr a couple months ago. I think Silva is more prepared than Tito, because I've watched he training on Instagram many times. Also this is the first time Tito become a boxer, even though he have a skills on MMA and UFC but still he doesn't have any experience on boxing.

I bet Silva will win on this match by decisions since it's much harder to make Tito KO or TKO.

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August 23, 2021, 11:03:05 AM
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I bet Silva will win on this match by decisions since it's much harder to make Tito KO or TKO.

Chuck Liddell has opposite opinion Cheesy Also, almost half of Tito's UFC losses are by TKO/KO. Spider has black belt in knocking people out, and it will be hard to miss Tito's big head; it will be even hard to hide it behind big boxing gloves.
Both fighters are not young anymore, they can not hold the punch like they had to. I predict this fight to end with Silva TKO Tito.

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August 23, 2021, 11:15:26 AM
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WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.
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I was never a Silva fan, especially since he mad uncle Chael tap Sad but objectively speaking, Silva has a much better technic and movement than Tito could ever dream of. I honestly don't get how this would generate any interest, but then again, the boxing world has been crazy as of latelly.

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I thought this was just an exhibition fight but I'm surprised after record some information about this fight.

This is not an exhibition but an official fight.

Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort Changed from Exhibition to Official Fight in Sept.

I thought Oscar had already retired and he is focused on his promotion business, honestly, I also did not see it coming but it seems like it's the trend now where old popular fighters are making their return for the money.

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WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.

Thanks for sharing that info, I know Silva and Ortiz inside UFC I didn't know that Silva already have that experienced inside boxing ring.

Experienced gives a fighter better edge against the opponents who will have his first taste of this sport,

Adjustment may be differ between the two and personally I'll go also with Silva, he can throw punches
accordingly, that's good enough edge to limit his stamina.
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WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.

Thanks for sharing that info, I know Silva and Ortiz inside UFC I didn't know that Silva already have that experienced inside boxing ring.

Experienced gives a fighter better edge against the opponents who will have his first taste of this sport,

Adjustment may be differ between the two and personally I'll go also with Silva, he can throw punches
accordingly, that's good enough edge to limit his stamina.

Looking forward to the betting odds of this fight, I know the names but I don't follow them on their UFC journey. This is a co main event of the De la Hoya fight vs Vitor Belfort, and I would say both fights would be a fun fight to watch, not the Mayweather vs Paul which obviously another boring fight.

Hope they'll get rewarded here with good income from PPV sales.

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Looking forward to the betting odds of this fight, I know the names but I don't follow them on their UFC journey. This is a co main event of the De la Hoya fight vs Vitor Belfort, and I would say both fights would be a fun fight to watch, not the Mayweather vs Paul which obviously another boring fight.

Hope they'll get rewarded here with good income from PPV sales.
TRT Vitor Belfort is scary and he could defeat anyone in the world and even after retiring from the UFC he bulked up like a huge scary person but now i am not sure about his physical condition and how they are testing them before the fight.

I do not understand what Tito Ortiz is doing with Anderson Silva in straight boxing. Anderson Silva will smoke him without any hesitation and i have seen some of the boxing bouts Anderson Silva was in and it looks incredible.
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WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.

Thanks for sharing that info, I know Silva and Ortiz inside UFC I didn't know that Silva already have that experienced inside boxing ring.

Experienced gives a fighter better edge against the opponents who will have his first taste of this sport,

Adjustment may be differ between the two and personally I'll go also with Silva, he can throw punches
accordingly, that's good enough edge to limit his stamina.

I just research that back then that Anderson Silva has experience in fighting a real boxer, that is why he had that certain head movement when evading in the UFC that is because he is really a good boxer, so applying it to the UFC Anderson Silva became very famous because of his evading technique,

But my take here even though I am going with Anderson Silva, we can not underestimate Tito Ortiz, he can still fight and can still land a technical punch on Silva, and I still want to see his training just to be sure, and let's not forget Silva's injury his left fibula and tibia that is why this really changes Silva's game into the octagon, and it can be a real problem aswell with boxing because footwork is still important.
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This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

Yes, this is the trend now, ex-MMA still trying to make money because of the pandemic. But I don't see any real contender though wanting to fight the likes of Silva. Tito is also a wash up fighter, but if we are going to base on who's active, Silva might have the edge. I'm also not interested on buying this in PPV, just a waste of money. But for those hardcore fans of both fighters, they might go for it.

I agree that this is now fast becoming a trend. But I don't think this is them making money because of the pandemic. This is simply them, retired fighters, making money well beyond their golden days.

Yeah, it could be but the pandemic has given them more reasons to fight again and make money. I don't think that this guys are going to fight if we are in the norm. But with the pandemic, nothing to do, so this is their excuse.

This trend is more like only the entertainment in sports entertainment. Silva can box, yes, but he's not really a boxer. As for the old Tito, he's even less of a boxer than Silva. So I don't know what they are going to show to the fans except that they're two big names of old trying to put up a fight in a sport they both didn't excel.

That's what I'm talking about, entertainment because of the obvious lull in sports because of the pandemic. Probably just trying to punch each other out until someone gets exhausted (most likely Ortiz).

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Tito is going have the advantage here since his body is much more beefier than Silva and the only way Silva can win this is if he is much faster than Tito which is going to be hard because even if you're faster, it's a matter of who wears out first and then the accuracy and power of each punches.

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I'll base it on Silva's last fight, which is pretty good against Chavez Jr. fighting and winning against a one-time great fighter like Chavez Jr. Ortiz can be good at MMA but he hasn't proved anything on boxing so it will be a different ball game in boxing I'll go for Silva but that does not mean that Ortiz is not good he can still pull out an upset, Silva is a favorite here.

Me either...

I've never been a fan of boxing, and it's even weird for me to comment on this topic, but Anderson Silva is an idol that makes me feel proud to be Brazilian.
As I don't understand anything about technique, I'm rooting and betting in favor of Spider, this guy's quick moves make a lot of difference in boxing and impress me.

I may be wrong, but I am betting with "my heart" on this victory.

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August 24, 2021, 11:07:23 AM
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I'll base it on Silva's last fight, which is pretty good against Chavez Jr. fighting and winning against a one-time great fighter like Chavez Jr. Ortiz can be good at MMA but he hasn't proved anything on boxing so it will be a different ball game in boxing I'll go for Silva but that does not mean that Ortiz is not good he can still pull out an upset, Silva is a favorite here.
It's a vastly different discipline so I think that it's going to be difficult to compare what Silva did in the last fight compared to the upcoming fight against Ortiz. There's no kicks and submission chokes in this one and it's going to be difficult for him to fight against what he was used to. They both hail from MMA so it can be anyone's game.
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I do not understand what Tito Ortiz is doing with Anderson Silva in straight boxing.

He is probably there just to get a cheque for receiving punches in face. According to his social media, he is more into politics than into sport, or taking sport as a hobby right now. While Spider is training and trains his son (he recently made a kickboxing debut and knocked out his opponent in 13 sec with first high kick).

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Chuck Liddell has opposite opinion Cheesy Also, almost half of Tito's UFC losses are by TKO/KO. Spider has black belt in knocking people out, and it will be hard to miss Tito's big head; it will be even hard to hide it behind big boxing gloves.
Both fighters are not young anymore, they can not hold the punch like they had to. I predict this fight to end with Silva TKO Tito.
Chuck Liddell is a killer and very brave, he punches multiple times to Tito. I also know almost Tito's record on UFC are TKO and KO, this because he's fight on Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight divisions.
Even though Silva 2/3 wins by TKO and KO, but he mostly fight on Middleweight division, when he move to Light Heavyweight division he often loss the fight, that's why I thought that on my previous post.
Both of them are aged, their power is not too strong anymore like 30's this might be their last fight before they retired.

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August 24, 2021, 12:26:23 PM
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I do not understand what Tito Ortiz is doing with Anderson Silva in straight boxing.

He is probably there just to get a cheque for receiving punches in face. According to his social media, he is more into politics than into sport, or taking sport as a hobby right now. While Spider is training and trains his son (he recently made a kickboxing debut and knocked out his opponent in 13 sec with first high kick).

Looks like he just wants to be recognized in their upcoming fight because the guy is getting old right now and his popularity is not that high anymore because the only people who know him are those who watch him fight in the MMA many years ago. As for the new fans, no one really cares about him at all. they just wanna watch Anderson Silva again. Now they gonna fight in the boxing ring, the fight won't last long since Ortiz doesn't have any air left in his lungs.

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August 24, 2021, 01:35:48 PM
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I do not understand what Tito Ortiz is doing with Anderson Silva in straight boxing.

He is probably there just to get a cheque for receiving punches in face. According to his social media, he is more into politics than into sport, or taking sport as a hobby right now. While Spider is training and trains his son (he recently made a kickboxing debut and knocked out his opponent in 13 sec with first high kick).

Looks like he just wants to be recognized in their upcoming fight because the guy is getting old right now and his popularity is not that high anymore because the only people who know him are those who watch him fight in the MMA many years ago. As for the new fans, no one really cares about him at all. they just wanna watch Anderson Silva again. Now they gonna fight in the boxing ring, the fight won't last long since Ortiz doesn't have any air left in his lungs.

One factor that brings him to the ring aside from the good paycheck after the fight.

He also wanted to be recognized as his time inside UFC rings was no longer fresh or interesting for newcomers. He might want
to bring his name back. We don't really know what he can bring to this fight as experienced wise Silva is more active than him,
but he still consider doing it and willing to take those punches from Silva's hands.
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August 24, 2021, 01:36:53 PM
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I do not understand what Tito Ortiz is doing with Anderson Silva in straight boxing.

He is probably there just to get a cheque for receiving punches in face. According to his social media, he is more into politics than into sport, or taking sport as a hobby right now. While Spider is training and trains his son (he recently made a kickboxing debut and knocked out his opponent in 13 sec with first high kick).

But it still boggles the mind. I am sure that he, at some level, thinks he can beat Silva otherwise he wouldn't have taken the fight. He never seemed like that of a calculated guy, and I don't think he has changed in that regard. With bigger gloves, I really think he will only get punched out throughout the rounds.

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August 24, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
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I am trying to find crypto betting websites with this fight Silva vs Ortiz scheduled for September 11 but without any luck.
All I can find is BET365, WilliamHill and Unibet are offering bets on this event but they don't support Bitcoin or crypto, so if you know crypto alternative with this fight please post it below.
They all have Anderson Silva as huge favorite to win.

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I am trying to find crypto betting websites with this fight Silva vs Ortiz scheduled for September 11 but without any luck.
All I can find is BET365, WilliamHill and Unibet are offering bets on this event but they don't support Bitcoin or crypto, so if you know crypto alternative with this fight please post it below.
They all have Anderson Silva as huge favorite to win.

What's the odds right now.  Being that they are both older in respect to boxing might be worth a punt putting some dough on tito.  I wonder what their arm reach is.  Thinking Anderson has the edge there so he might be able to keep tito away with the jab.  These novelty fights are good money makers.

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August 24, 2021, 09:00:36 PM
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I am trying to find crypto betting websites with this fight Silva vs Ortiz scheduled for September 11 but without any luck.
All I can find is BET365, WilliamHill and Unibet are offering bets on this event but they don't support Bitcoin or crypto, so if you know crypto alternative with this fight please post it below.
They all have Anderson Silva as huge favorite to win.

What's the odds right now.  Being that they are both older in respect to boxing might be worth a punt putting some dough on tito.  I wonder what their arm reach is.  Thinking Anderson has the edge there so he might be able to keep tito away with the jab.  These novelty fights are good money makers.

I search in our crypto bookies but could not find the odds available for now.

However, we already have an idea about the odds of this fight from this article.
https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/anderson-silva-vs-tito-ortiz-odds-prediction-betting-picks
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Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz Odds
Online sportsbook Bovada has the Silva vs Ortiz odds and listed Anderson as the -240 favorite and Tito the +180 underdog. To profit $100 with a Silva victory you would need to bet $240 while a $100 wager on an Ortiz win would net you $180.

Fighter   Odds
Anderson Silva   -240
Tito Ortiz   +180

Odds as of August 18 at Bovada


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August 24, 2021, 11:53:46 PM
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I am trying to find crypto betting websites with this fight Silva vs Ortiz scheduled for September 11 but without any luck.
All I can find is BET365, WilliamHill and Unibet are offering bets on this event but they don't support Bitcoin or crypto, so if you know crypto alternative with this fight please post it below.
When the event date approaches they will add the betting line but do not expect huge odds on Anderson Silva as he will be the heavy favorite and there is no way Tito Ortiz is going to challenge him in any shape of form to expect an upset. My bet is Anderson Silva will win the fight even if he tie his one hand behind the back  Cheesy.

They all have Anderson Silva as huge favorite to win.
There is a reason for Anderson Silva is a -500 favorite in the fight and Tito Ortiz +350 the heavy underdog. Tito Ortiz was a wrestler who boxed and Anderson Silva was a striker throughout his career and his hands are still great.
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August 25, 2021, 12:19:37 AM
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When the event date approaches they will add the betting line but do not expect huge odds on Anderson Silva as he will be the heavy favorite and there is no way Tito Ortiz is going to challenge him in any shape of form to expect an upset. My bet is Anderson Silva will win the fight even if he tie his one hand behind the back  Cheesy.

I think everyone here is not expecting a huge odds on Anderson Silva even at the start when they announced the fight. It was expected by the majority.

Who knows once the betting line release by most of the crypto sportsbooks, we can see other betting options for Anderson Silva like winning methods or on what round would be ended the mach. Better to choose those compare betting on Tito Ortiz unless a bettor is expecting an upset with great odds.
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August 25, 2021, 11:25:19 AM
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When the event date approaches they will add the betting line but do not expect huge odds on Anderson Silva as he will be the heavy favorite and there is no way Tito Ortiz is going to challenge him in any shape of form to expect an upset. My bet is Anderson Silva will win the fight even if he tie his one hand behind the back  Cheesy.

I think everyone here is not expecting a huge odds on Anderson Silva even at the start when they announced the fight. It was expected by the majority.

Who knows once the betting line release by most of the crypto sportsbooks, we can see other betting options for Anderson Silva like winning methods or on what round would be ended the mach. Better to choose those compare betting on Tito Ortiz unless a bettor is expecting an upset with great odds.

We will see for sure, that majority will surely bet for Anderson Silva, and my take is it will be an unbalance odds because they have seen that Anderson has a huge possibility of winning here because he has great experience with boxing, but still we can also be wrong if I can only see the training of Tito Ortiz for this match and what kind of style he would counter for Anderson Silva then that can have an eye-opener for some boxing fans, to think twice on this boxing match, and I still don't take the fact that Anderson Silva has the worst injuries in his UFC career, and it could be another huge factor for him to lose, because on his boxing career back then he is still 100% healthy but the fact that his rhythm may change because of his previous injury is another thing to consider in making a bet.
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August 25, 2021, 11:38:59 AM
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They all have Anderson Silva as huge favorite to win.
There is a reason for Anderson Silva is a -500 favorite in the fight and Tito Ortiz +350 the heavy underdog. Tito Ortiz was a wrestler who boxed and Anderson Silva was a striker throughout his career and his hands are still great.
I'm not that familiar with Ortiz but I'm pretty sure he can fight Silva even though the odds tells the difference.
Anyway, Silva is a great fighter with a good record and that's given, what's exciting about this match is this is boxing and anything can happen so I'm gonna watch this match for sure and personally, I'll bet for Silva on this for a more safer bet I guess.

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Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz Odds
Online sportsbook Bovada has the Silva vs Ortiz odds and listed Anderson as the -240 favorite and Tito the +180 underdog. To profit $100 with a Silva victory you would need to bet $240 while a $100 wager on an Ortiz win would net you $180.

Fighter   Odds
Anderson Silva   -240
Tito Ortiz   +180

Odds as of August 18 at Bovada


Obviously, Silva is the most favourite here.
Silva had more than 60% knockouts throughout his entire MMA career. He could actually box, it's evident in his MMA fights as he landed some of those power punches to stun opponents and then finish them off with the kick, knee, and punches combo.
In addition, Silva also had professional boxing experience, and recently won an upset against Julio Cesar Chavez on June.
So, this explains why the odds is high against Silva.

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Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz Odds
Online sportsbook Bovada has the Silva vs Ortiz odds and listed Anderson as the -240 favorite and Tito the +180 underdog. To profit $100 with a Silva victory you would need to bet $240 while a $100 wager on an Ortiz win would net you $180.

Fighter   Odds
Anderson Silva   -240
Tito Ortiz   +180

Odds as of August 18 at Bovada


Obviously, Silva is the most favourite here.
Silva had more than 60% knockouts throughout his entire MMA career. He could actually box, it's evident in his MMA fights as he landed some of those power punches to stun opponents and then finish them off with the kick, knee, and punches combo.
In addition, Silva also had professional boxing experience, and recently won an upset against Julio Cesar Chavez on June.
So, this explains why the odds is high against Silva.

Yep, the odds seem right. And everything mentioned is on point, that's why this fight is really not all that interesting, as the Chavez vs Silva fight was. Seeing that it's two former MMA fighters, this will only generate significant buzz in the MMA community so I don't really see the financial incentive here.

Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

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I think everyone here is not expecting a huge odds on Anderson Silva even at the start when they announced the fight. It was expected by the majority.



Because they have proof that Silva is a good boxer, after all, Ortiz is also a good puncher but Silva has gone the distance with a boxer who happens to be Chavez Jr. one time a top contender in the middleweight he has a resume to prove that he can box and he has the stamina for a long fight, Ortiz no doubt is good in MMA, but boxing is quite different from MMA even the gloves they are using is different, Silva knows how to phase himself I don't know about Ortiz, let's see if all our expectations are correct.


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August 25, 2021, 12:27:24 PM
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Ortiz seems to be more of a volume puncher than Silva so I have my bet on Ortiz on this one plus it's going to be a matter of who's going to adapt to a new way of fighting first because the late one is going to feel a subconscious hesitation on what they're going to do.
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August 25, 2021, 01:12:00 PM
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Contracts have been signed for Anderson Silva to box with Tito Ortiz in the co-main event of the Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort card on September 11, and it is organized by Triller.
Both of them are well known MMA fighters active until recently in UFC, one of the best known MMA organizations, so it will be interesting fight to watch.
Andreson Silva is 46 years with 34-11-0 MMA record, and Tito Ortiz is also 46 years old with record 21-12-1.


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August 25, 2021, 01:19:59 PM
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Ortiz seems to be more of a volume puncher than Silva so I have my bet on Ortiz on this one plus it's going to be a matter of who's going to adapt to a new way of fighting first because the late one is going to feel a subconscious hesitation on what they're going to do.

I think you gonna lose your bet. 1) Even though Tito knows how to throw punches and kicks, his background is wrestling. Fighting in stance in MMA is a lot different from boxing 2) Anderson Silva already did few boxing matches. His background is striking. I don't see how Tito gonna win this fight.

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I think you gonna lose your bet. 1) Even though Tito knows how to throw punches and kicks, his background is wrestling. Fighting in stance in MMA is a lot different from boxing 2) Anderson Silva already did few boxing matches. His background is striking. I don't see how Tito gonna win this fight.
Pretty sure that the training before the fight is definitely going to do something different for Ortiz, it seems that Ortiz has the disadvantage but I think that his endurance might also make up for the difference. Let's just see who wins, I am still on Ortiz on this one.
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I think you gonna lose your bet. 1) Even though Tito knows how to throw punches and kicks, his background is wrestling. Fighting in stance in MMA is a lot different from boxing 2) Anderson Silva already did few boxing matches. His background is striking. I don't see how Tito gonna win this fight.
Pretty sure that the training before the fight is definitely going to do something different for Ortiz, it seems that Ortiz has the disadvantage but I think that his endurance might also make up for the difference. Let's just see who wins, I am still on Ortiz on this one.

I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.
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I think you gonna lose your bet. 1) Even though Tito knows how to throw punches and kicks, his background is wrestling. Fighting in stance in MMA is a lot different from boxing 2) Anderson Silva already did few boxing matches. His background is striking. I don't see how Tito gonna win this fight.
Pretty sure that the training before the fight is definitely going to do something different for Ortiz, it seems that Ortiz has the disadvantage but I think that his endurance might also make up for the difference. Let's just see who wins, I am still on Ortiz on this one.

I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.

He already lasted a full 12 rounds against a past prime JCC Jr in the boxing ring. So it seems that his injury is no longer a factor. It's boxing so there is no kicking obviously so I doubt that he will feel pressure on this knees. He just needs to move around, throw punches. The burden here is with Tito Ortiz, he has been out for a good few years, not that active as we have seen his weight goes up. And then the training itself. He has a history of getting tired and gassing out in the UFC so that might be a big factor in his fight against Anderson Silva.

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August 25, 2021, 10:41:32 PM
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He already lasted a full 12 rounds against a past prime JCC Jr in the boxing ring. So it seems that his injury is no longer a factor. It's boxing so there is no kicking obviously so I doubt that he will feel pressure on this knees. He just needs to move around, throw punches. The burden here is with Tito Ortiz, he has been out for a good few years, not that active as we have seen his weight goes up. And then the training itself. He has a history of getting tired and gassing out in the UFC so that might be a big factor in his fight against Anderson Silva.

Well you might be right, I am just curious if he's still feeling the pressure with that injury that has a rod in it, you know boxing has footwork that Anderson can have difficulties in some aspect, but I guess he already gets used to that feeling of easiness, so maybe Tito Ortiz would be the underdog when the odds came out, because of the lack of experience with boxing and MMA and Boxing is two different sports both will sure use technical punches but boxing will not require kicking and takedowns but definitely, they can use hold, but you are right the burden here will be Tito Ortiz with the lack of experience in boxing I can see that a lot in here is in favor with Anderson Silva.
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I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.

I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world,  I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.
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August 25, 2021, 11:51:02 PM
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I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world,  I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.
The level of injury Anderson Silva sustained when checking a kick was nasty but in the boxing world you just use your hands and Anderson Silva should have retired from MMA after that injury but he kept on going  and he is trying out boxing but Tito ortiz is not even a worthy opponent because he is not known for his striking but his wrestling and i am expecting early works and a win for Anderson Silva.
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I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.

I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world,  I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.

I disagree though that he boxes Chaves Jr. usually he stays on the corner in the fight and waiting for Chaves to come in and counter, so there no movement. But I do agree that it didn't matter that much about the injury he suffers during the Wiedman fight.

Tito Ortiz is more of a brawler type, but when facing good striking fighter during his MMA days, he usually gets knock out cold.

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He already lasted a full 12 rounds against a past prime JCC Jr in the boxing ring. So it seems that his injury is no longer a factor. It's boxing so there is no kicking obviously so I doubt that he will feel pressure on this knees. He just needs to move around, throw punches. The burden here is with Tito Ortiz, he has been out for a good few years, not that active as we have seen his weight goes up. And then the training itself. He has a history of getting tired and gassing out in the UFC so that might be a big factor in his fight against Anderson Silva.

Well you might be right, I am just curious if he's still feeling the pressure with that injury that has a rod in it, you know boxing has footwork that Anderson can have difficulties in some aspect, but I guess he already gets used to that feeling of easiness, so maybe Tito Ortiz would be the underdog when the odds came out, because of the lack of experience with boxing and MMA and Boxing is two different sports both will sure use technical punches but boxing will not require kicking and takedowns but definitely, they can use hold, but you are right the burden here will be Tito Ortiz with the lack of experience in boxing I can see that a lot in here is in favor with Anderson Silva.

Yep, and perhaps that why Silva chooses to enter boxing instead of MMA because he knows that he can re-injured himself again. As compare to boxing wherein the pressure is not there. Of course, you need to bounce around but it less stressful.

For sure Tito Ortiz will be the underdog against Silva because he has no activity after he retired from MMA many years ago.

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Yep, and perhaps that why Silva chooses to enter boxing instead of MMA because he knows that he can re-injured himself again. As compare to boxing wherein the pressure is not there. Of course, you need to bounce around but it less stressful.

For sure Tito Ortiz will be the underdog against Silva because he has no activity after he retired from MMA many years ago.

That injury which might influence him to stop fighting inside UFC ring,

Now he's on the other side taking another path for his newfound career, it's good to see him active while with Ortiz which after retiring we don't have any information if he still active in any sports to keep his body and his health condition to be maintain okay. We will see what's preparation he did once the fight takes place.
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That injury which might influence him to stop fighting inside UFC ring,

Now he's on the other side taking another path for his newfound career, it's good to see him active while with Ortiz which after retiring we don't have any information if he still active in any sports to keep his body and his health condition to be maintain okay. We will see what's preparation he did once the fight takes place.

The injury not just "might influence" but made a full influence on his UFC career. Take a look on his record. After that leg break he is 1-5 only, but before that he was in a series of 17 wins.

Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves Smiley

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August 26, 2021, 10:57:19 AM
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Ortiz seems to be more of a volume puncher than Silva so I have my bet on Ortiz on this one plus it's going to be a matter of who's going to adapt to a new way of fighting first because the late one is going to feel a subconscious hesitation on what they're going to do.

Ortiz more a volume puncher than Silva? Where did that statistic come from? Speaking strictly from a math perspective, Tito always fought in a bigger weight class than Silva so if anything, from that angle he can't be the more voluminous puncher. I'd like to see that statistic tbh.

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Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves Smiley

Ortiz should prove to all doubters that he can take Silva and he still has what it takes to fight inside the ring whether it is boxing or MMA, Tito is a fighter for most of his life I'm sure he will train hard he will get the best trainers so he can give Silva a run for his money, but I believe in the end Silva will emerge the winner, I hope nobody gets hurt they are aged fighters.

Silva is more experience than Ortiz but we cannot underestimate the capabilities of the said fighter since as we know Silva came from a serious injury and I think that can affect his game style since for sure he's still in trauma that incident will happen again. But let see if Anderson really recovers and can able to get this win from Ortiz since we might see him fight more opponent.

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August 26, 2021, 11:29:46 AM
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Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves Smiley

Ortiz should prove to all doubters that he can take Silva and he still has what it takes to fight inside the ring whether it is boxing or MMA, Tito is a fighter for most of his life I'm sure he will train hard he will get the best trainers so he can give Silva a run for his money, but I believe in the end Silva will emerge the winner, I hope nobody gets hurt they are aged fighters.

Silva is more experience than Ortiz but we cannot underestimate the capabilities of the said fighter since as we know Silva came from a serious injury and I think that can affect his game style since for sure he's still in trauma that incident will happen again. But let see if Anderson really recovers and can able to get this win from Ortiz since we might see him fight more opponent.

This is the fight that we are not certain of the result of, they are MMA fighters, and this is boxing, so we can't use their past performance as the basis of this fight. I'm sure it's not an easy fight of either fighter as it's a different sport although it's the same considered as contact sport.

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Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

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August 26, 2021, 12:07:07 PM
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Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

The fight date is approaching, they need to make some noise to sell this fight, just like the fight of Mayweather vs Paul, there was a scene, people talk about it and the fight was successful as they generate good revenue, but unfortunately fans are bored, lol.

Whoever is good at trash-talking is probably gonna sell the fight, Conor and Floyd are a great examples of that.

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I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.

I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world,  I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.

I think that there is a certain something that he might felt with that injury, but he would surely not going to say something about it because his opponent might see this as an opening, but anyway, Anderson Silva is a better boxer here than Tito Ortiz but I still want to see how Tito Ortiz may prepare for this fight, before saying a 100% for Silva, I really want information even as little detail for this upcoming fight and I guess for Anderson Silva to really pursue his career in boxing when he wins this.
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August 26, 2021, 02:03:35 PM
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Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

They are trying to make money but didn't get much interest from the audience.
The drama did not catch the attentions that they are hoping, might see that it would just a waste of time and money
if they'll proceed and signed both fighters.

Promoters understand the risk, it's better to find other interesting match up and make things more potential big
event, maybe the reason  why we have now this Silva vs Ortiz fight.

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August 26, 2021, 06:33:03 PM
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Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

They are trying to make money but didn't get much interest from the audience.
The drama did not catch the attentions that they are hoping, might see that it would just a waste of time and money
if they'll proceed and signed both fighters.

Promoters understand the risk, it's better to find other interesting match up and make things more potential big
event, maybe the reason  why we have now this Silva vs Ortiz fight.



Well, I have always liked the boxing style that Tito shows, so that was the reason? Maybe he needs many more fights and have a bit more fame, I have followed Tito's story, usually if it is not with a well-known boxer, the events are not usually very striking, on the other hand, when showing the levels of boxers like Silva and Ortiz.

I think that at the moment both boxers have a very good reputation, this is what attracts more money to the event, of course the technique of both is impeccable, really to make a bet I do not know for whom, the statistics favor Silva.


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August 26, 2021, 11:09:06 PM
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Actually, these two guys are just making fun and money. Both of them have an impressive MMA record but that was different when it comes to boxing so it will probably not really be a good fight to see. This will just remind me of McGregor vs Mayweather's fight, that is probably more than that. Maybe if they'll get into the MMA ring, that it looks interesting but this new fun game they've made, I'm not sure how it drags attention and betting interest.

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August 27, 2021, 03:16:20 AM
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Actually, these two guys are just making fun and money. Both of them have an impressive MMA record but that was different when it comes to boxing so it will probably not really be a good fight to see. This will just remind me of McGregor vs Mayweather's fight, that is probably more than that. Maybe if they'll get into the MMA ring, that it looks interesting but this new fun game they've made, I'm not sure how it drags attention and betting interest.

That's obvious, two fighters who are way past their best days, but still wanted to fight each other in the boxing ring. And the only reason is that they wanted to may money specially for their hardcore fans.

But for a typical boxing fans, not worth to watch it as this might be a boring one, for gamblers sure, if they will also make some good money so why not bet on the fight itself.

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Easy there. It's more like he will get the trainers he knows and he could afford to pay. For sure they're good but I wouldn't claim they're the best.



I hope both fighters take this one seriously and try to knock each other Grin We will probably see some showboating from Silva like he usually does before he got KO'd by Weidman.
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Both fighters were exhausted by round 3 ortiz was too tired to land a single punch and dominated the landing artiz again. After a tough fight some people including the then UFC light heavyweight champion lost the very close split decision due to chuck liddell's octagonal control and early in the first round he felt ortiz qualified for the first and second rounds. Ortiz silver was going to come face to face in the final and their stats would be better.
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he will get the best trainers
Easy there. It's more like he will get the trainers he knows and he could afford to pay. For sure they're good but I wouldn't claim they're the best.



I hope both fighters take this one seriously and try to knock each other Grin We will probably see some showboating from Silva like he usually does before he got KO'd by Weidman.

If I'm not mistaken he showed that kind of showboating in the JCC fight, but Chavez was afraid to go inside and test Silva's chin that why he losses the fight.

For sure Ortiz might have some showboating as well, we all know that during his prime years with UFC he is full of trash talking until the opponent shut up that big mouth of his.  Grin. So let's see what kind of  promotion he will do for this fight.
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This is the fight that we are not certain of the result of, they are MMA fighters, and this is boxing, so we can't use their past performance as the basis of this fight. I'm sure it's not an easy fight of either fighter as it's a different sport although it's the same considered as contact sport.

I have not seen Ortiz box, but Silva is so good when he fought Chavez Jr. he showcases his skill in boxing and he box like a boxer who fought many fights, he is a good boxer than an MMA and this fight is another feather in his cap, although he is so good he cannot match up top  middleweight in the industry but his skill is enough to beat Ortiz,

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This is the fight that we are not certain of the result of, they are MMA fighters, and this is boxing, so we can't use their past performance as the basis of this fight. I'm sure it's not an easy fight of either fighter as it's a different sport although it's the same considered as contact sport.

I have not seen Ortiz box, but Silva is so good when he fought Chavez Jr. he showcases his skill in boxing and he box like a boxer who fought many fights, he is a good boxer than an MMA and this fight is another feather in his cap, although he is so good he cannot match up top  middleweight in the industry but his skill is enough to beat Ortiz,

Ortiz is underdog here knowing he has a lot of losses compare to Anderson but we cannot take this fight easy as we already see some underdogs win the fight, one example of that is Ugas and Pacquiao which ugas win by unanimous decision. Both of them want to show that even they are old they still have power to prove that they are strong in the ring and its interesting to watch this fight since we never know that this is the last fight of Silva or Ortiz.

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This is the fight that we are not certain of the result of, they are MMA fighters, and this is boxing, so we can't use their past performance as the basis of this fight. I'm sure it's not an easy fight of either fighter as it's a different sport although it's the same considered as contact sport.

I have not seen Ortiz box, but Silva is so good when he fought Chavez Jr. he showcases his skill in boxing and he box like a boxer who fought many fights, he is a good boxer than an MMA and this fight is another feather in his cap, although he is so good he cannot match up top  middleweight in the industry but his skill is enough to beat Ortiz,

Ortiz is underdog here knowing he has a lot of losses compare to Anderson but we cannot take this fight easy as we already see some underdogs win the fight, one example of that is Ugas and Pacquiao which ugas win by unanimous decision. Both of them want to show that even they are old they still have power to prove that they are strong in the ring and its interesting to watch this fight since we never know that this is the last fight of Silva or Ortiz.

Hope to see the betting odds soon, the fight is 2 weeks from now, odds should be available early so bookies will have more bets coming. Getting listed early in sports betting sites would also add on the popularity of the match, so I hope to see it soon.

At the current odds presented here. https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/anderson-silva-vs-tito-ortiz-odds-prediction-betting-picks

no way I'll take Silva to win @-240

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That injury which might influence him to stop fighting inside UFC ring,

Now he's on the other side taking another path for his newfound career, it's good to see him active while with Ortiz which after retiring we don't have any information if he still active in any sports to keep his body and his health condition to be maintain okay. We will see what's preparation he did once the fight takes place.

The injury not just "might influence" but made a full influence on his UFC career. Take a look on his record. After that leg break he is 1-5 only, but before that he was in a series of 17 wins.

Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves Smiley

Thanks for correcting me. After that injury, he never finds the rhythm and realizes that this venue is no longer for him.

Since he's a fighter, he manages to find other venue to showcase his talent, more on money making how the pattern
was created after the fight between Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Promoters find this kind of fight may attract the
combine fans of boxing and UFC.
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Thanks for correcting me. After that injury, he never finds the rhythm and realizes that this venue is no longer for him.

Since he's a fighter, he manages to find other venue to showcase his talent, more on money making how the pattern
was created after the fight between Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Promoters find this kind of fight may attract the
combine fans of boxing and UFC.
Anderson Silva had boxers lined up during his reign in the UFC as the champion but Dana White was adamant that they will not allow anyone to cross over and fight a boxer and so is the reason we missed out some epic cross over fights during his prime. Now that he is retired from MMA he is trying his luck in boxing and have you seen his fight against Julio César Chávez Jr who went the distance against Canelo Álvarez and Anderson Silva defeated him.

Anderson Silva will finish Tito Ortiz in the first few rounds Grin.
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Thanks for correcting me. After that injury, he never finds the rhythm and realizes that this venue is no longer for him.

Since he's a fighter, he manages to find other venue to showcase his talent, more on money making how the pattern
was created after the fight between Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Promoters find this kind of fight may attract the
combine fans of boxing and UFC.
Anderson Silva had boxers lined up during his reign in the UFC as the champion but Dana White was adamant that they will not allow anyone to cross over and fight a boxer and so is the reason we missed out some epic cross over fights during his prime. Now that he is retired from MMA he is trying his luck in boxing and have you seen his fight against Julio César Chávez Jr who went the distance against Canelo Álvarez and Anderson Silva defeated him.

Anderson Silva will finish Tito Ortiz in the first few rounds Grin.
I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.
Well, I hope this will be a good fight unlike what we saw between McGregor and Mayweather. And I think this is not all about money but having to show their skill in boxing as well.



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August 27, 2021, 10:38:15 PM
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If Anderson Silva is still young he can make a career in boxing the way he boxes right now, he is so good when he fought Chavez.Jr he has already proven himself in boxing, he will have a chance to win against Ortiz who hasn't proven himself in boxing but Ortiz is a known fighter and an experienced MMA he will find a way to give Ortiz a good fight.
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I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.

If Silva wins, not lucky I guess as odds provider consider him as the Favorites. Considering also the odds, it has a wide gap making Ortiz a heavy underdog.

Performance-wise, we should not expect that either Silva or Ortiz will still have that great performance as skills as obviously, they are now far to their usual. It's like they are now rusty but still running well.

The good thing here is, this fight is a professional fight so we can expect that even at their age, they will fight seriously and not acting it's an exhibition match.

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August 27, 2021, 11:52:32 PM
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I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.

If Silva wins, not lucky I guess as odds provider consider him as the Favorites. Considering also the odds, it has a wide gap making Ortiz a heavy underdog.

Performance-wise, we should not expect that either Silva or Ortiz will still have that great performance as skills as obviously, they are now far to their usual. It's like they are now rusty but still running well.

The good thing here is, this fight is a professional fight so we can expect that even at their age, they will fight seriously and not acting it's an exhibition match.

very true, on this fight, we may really see action. because exhibition fights, they are not pushed thru their limits as they are just entertaining the audience for the aim of getting their pockets full without much effort. just wondering why aged boxers are still going back? is it because of pandemic and they find a way how to extract money from their fans at the same time, going back to their passion in this sports?

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August 27, 2021, 11:58:16 PM
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just wondering why aged boxers are still going back? is it because of pandemic and they find a way how to extract money from their fans at the same time, going back to their passion in this sports?

Because they saw exhibition matches are profitable even pandemic. They got inspired by those who started it first.

Actually, that Silva vs Ortiz is supposed to be an exhibition but got sanctioned that it needs to be a professional so they are included in the undercard of Dela Hoya vs Belfort match which is also a professional match.

Silva is supposed to fight Logan Paul but good thing it didn't happen. Can't believe Silva is interested to go down his level to fight Paul.
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just wondering why aged boxers are still going back? is it because of pandemic and they find a way how to extract money from their fans at the same time, going back to their passion in this sports?

Because they saw exhibition matches are profitable even pandemic. They got inspired by those who started it first.

Actually, that Silva vs Ortiz is supposed to be an exhibition but got sanctioned that it needs to be a professional so they are included in the undercard of Dela Hoya vs Belfort match which is also a professional match.

Silva is supposed to fight Logan Paul but good thing it didn't happen. Can't believe Silva is interested to go down his level to fight Paul.

They are not in their prime anymore and if they look for money, they would choose to fight someone that is already popular, and though we don't like the Paul Brothers, we have to admit that they attract a crowd in their fights as they had previously proven it, and also, they can easily promote a fight using their youtube channels with millions of followers.
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Silva is supposed to fight Logan Paul but good thing it didn't happen. Can't believe Silva is interested to go down his level to fight Paul.
If Anderson Silva is getting the opportunity to make money at this age, why could not he be interested in fighting Jake Paul who could help him make more money than fighting anyone else and hence you cannot blame him as he could easily make millions of dollars fighting Jake Paul.
There is no pressure for Anderson Silva to sell out the card because he is not the main event and i wonder how Tito Ortiz came to the picture.
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If Anderson Silva is getting the opportunity to make money at this age, why could not he be interested in fighting Jake Paul who could help him make more money than fighting anyone else and hence you cannot blame him as he could easily make millions of dollars fighting Jake Paul.
There is no pressure for Anderson Silva to sell out the card because he is not the main event and i wonder how Tito Ortiz came to the picture.

They are not in their prime anymore and if they look for money, they would choose to fight someone that is already popular, and though we don't like the Paul Brothers, we have to admit that they attract a crowd in their fights as they had previously proven it, and also, they can easily promote a fight using their youtube channels with millions of followers.

Anderson Silva is a big name therefore he can demand an exhibition match with the same level of him and not the Paul brothers. Please tell me how much Paul brothers generated money with their name as the heavy name on their matches? There is no need for him to go down a level with Jake Paul.

See my point here? Silva can do exhibition matches and possibly gained more revenue if he is against a name on the same level nor a name that is already professional in their respective industry. Since it's an exhibition no worries if one will be injured or not, no different if Silva will fight Jake Paul but the reward money is much better.
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I heard that experts see the favorite of the Brazilian fighter Anderson Silva,
and the difference in coefficients is huge.

The fighters are almost the same age, they have the same height, and the range of their arms is behind the Brazilian.
At the same time, Ortiz has superiority in power, he always performed a category higher.

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August 29, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
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Silva is supposed to fight Logan Paul but good thing it didn't happen. Can't believe Silva is interested to go down his level to fight Paul.
If Anderson Silva is getting the opportunity to make money at this age, why could not he be interested in fighting Jake Paul who could help him make more money than fighting anyone else and hence you cannot blame him as he could easily make millions of dollars fighting Jake Paul.
There is no pressure for Anderson Silva to sell out the card because he is not the main event and i wonder how Tito Ortiz came to the picture.

Anderson da Silva is the greatest boxer in world history.  In my opinion, this is a legendary fighter. 

It is not for nothing that he received the nickname Spider. 

He is incredibly effective in combat.  I myself have been doing Taekwando for many years.  Therefore, I can appreciate his fighting style.  He is flawless. 

He is also fluent in the techniques of classical boxing and perfectly knows the techniques of jiu-jitsu.  Anderson Silva is incredibly agile and strong. 

Tito Ortiz is also a great fighter. 

However, in my opinion, he is much inferior to Anderson.

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August 29, 2021, 10:51:46 PM
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Thanks for correcting me. After that injury, he never finds the rhythm and realizes that this venue is no longer for him.

Since he's a fighter, he manages to find other venue to showcase his talent, more on money making how the pattern
was created after the fight between Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Promoters find this kind of fight may attract the
combine fans of boxing and UFC.
Anderson Silva had boxers lined up during his reign in the UFC as the champion but Dana White was adamant that they will not allow anyone to cross over and fight a boxer and so is the reason we missed out some epic cross over fights during his prime. Now that he is retired from MMA he is trying his luck in boxing and have you seen his fight against Julio César Chávez Jr who went the distance against Canelo Álvarez and Anderson Silva defeated him.

Anderson Silva will finish Tito Ortiz in the first few rounds Grin.
I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.
Well, I hope this will be a good fight unlike what we saw between McGregor and Mayweather. And I think this is not all about money but having to show their skill in boxing as well.
The problem of the age of both fighters cannot be understated, Manny which is a legendary fighter had problems fighting to the best of his ability at 42 years old, so I cannot really expect that two fighters which are even older and that were never as good are going to offer a better performance, however I am still watching this fight as I am a huge fan of boxing and if I had to pick one to win in a bet then I would pick Silva without even thinking about it.

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August 30, 2021, 12:44:35 AM
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Thanks for correcting me. After that injury, he never finds the rhythm and realizes that this venue is no longer for him.

Since he's a fighter, he manages to find other venue to showcase his talent, more on money making how the pattern
was created after the fight between Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Promoters find this kind of fight may attract the
combine fans of boxing and UFC.
Anderson Silva had boxers lined up during his reign in the UFC as the champion but Dana White was adamant that they will not allow anyone to cross over and fight a boxer and so is the reason we missed out some epic cross over fights during his prime. Now that he is retired from MMA he is trying his luck in boxing and have you seen his fight against Julio César Chávez Jr who went the distance against Canelo Álvarez and Anderson Silva defeated him.

Anderson Silva will finish Tito Ortiz in the first few rounds Grin.
I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.
Well, I hope this will be a good fight unlike what we saw between McGregor and Mayweather. And I think this is not all about money but having to show their skill in boxing as well.
The problem of the age of both fighters cannot be understated, Manny which is a legendary fighter had problems fighting to the best of his ability at 42 years old, so I cannot really expect that two fighters which are even older and that were never as good are going to offer a better performance, however I am still watching this fight as I am a huge fan of boxing and if I had to pick one to win in a bet then I would pick Silva without even thinking about it.

They will not be as explosive as they were when they are still younger or when they are still in their prime.

Roy Jones and Mike Tyson had an exhibition fight, and we saw how they have slowed down and we did not see a knockdown in the fight.
highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRInHmUsyw

So most probably this one would not be different and since they are not real boxers, we should not expect from them too much.

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August 30, 2021, 11:17:19 AM
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Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves Smiley

Ortiz should prove to all doubters that he can take Silva and he still has what it takes to fight inside the ring whether it is boxing or MMA, Tito is a fighter for most of his life I'm sure he will train hard he will get the best trainers so he can give Silva a run for his money, but I believe in the end Silva will emerge the winner, I hope nobody gets hurt they are aged fighters.

Unfortunately being a fighter your whole life and training hard has nothing to do with how the actual performance will be and if he will pose a threat for Silva. If anything, Silva has been a fighter throughout his life and is training hard so that should not be a factor. Look at Tyron Woodley, he had a shit of performance against Jake Paul. Tito seems to want to be more of a pro wrestler than an actual fighter anymore XD

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August 30, 2021, 03:17:03 PM
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The event date is approaching fast and we have so much to look forward to. Silva and Ortiz are well-known boxers that have reputation to uphold. They are on the top of their games and are very much willing to win the match. Both can be seen to have a strong driving force to win the upcoming match.

Their fight on September 11 will be real bouts and not just an exhibition. Meaning, it will be more thrilling and entertaining to watch and witness who will be the declared winner. The two will fight an eight round game with two minutes alloted time each round. Hopefully, the two will execute and give us a worthwhile game to see. Given that it will be broadcast in pay-per-view (because it's a boxing sport).
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August 30, 2021, 03:28:47 PM
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The event date is approaching fast and we have so much to look forward to. Silva and Ortiz are well-known boxers that have reputation to uphold. They are on the top of their games and are very much willing to win the match. Both can be seen to have a strong driving force to win the upcoming match.

Not much to look forward to actually. And you are wrong, both Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz are not boxers. They are mixed martial arts fighters who are now looking for some money in boxing. You are also wrong to say that they are on top of their games. They are not even in their best shapes anymore. They are already old fighters. And the driving force in this match is not their desire to win but their desire to earn even after retirement.
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August 30, 2021, 03:41:59 PM
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This date of the fight is a special one, it's also a day of memorial to those people that we've lost during the terror attack in World Trade Center and Pentagon but I digress hopefully this is a good exhibition fight and I think this is an even match up, Silva has the boxing experience and Ortiz has the beefy build that can endure punishment.

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Their fight on September 11 will be real bouts and not just an exhibition. Meaning, it will be more thrilling and entertaining to watch and witness who will be the declared winner. The two will fight an eight round game with two minutes alloted time each round. Hopefully, the two will execute and give us a worthwhile game to see. Given that it will be broadcast in pay-per-view (because it's a boxing sport).

I don't really consider this as professional bouts even the fight is an undercard of a professional match. It's still more like an exhibition for me.

I think they can yield more money if they come back fighting on their usual sport which is mixed martial arts. It will be more supported and patronize by the fans because that's their specialty and that sport make them famous and reputable on that stage. Imagine, they are MMA fighters then suddenly will come out from retirement and will do boxing. I don't see any significance in doing that but only for pure money purposes.
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August 30, 2021, 11:12:19 PM
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Their fight on September 11 will be real bouts and not just an exhibition. Meaning, it will be more thrilling and entertaining to watch and witness who will be the declared winner. The two will fight an eight round game with two minutes alloted time each round. Hopefully, the two will execute and give us a worthwhile game to see. Given that it will be broadcast in pay-per-view (because it's a boxing sport).

I don't really consider this as professional bouts even the fight is an undercard of a professional match. It's still more like an exhibition for me.

I think they can yield more money if they come back fighting on their usual sport which is mixed martial arts. It will be more supported and patronize by the fans because that's their specialty and that sport make them famous and reputable on that stage. Imagine, they are MMA fighters then suddenly will come out from retirement and will do boxing. I don't see any significance in doing that but only for pure money purposes.


but it seems that bookies picked-up first the de la hoya - belfort exhibition match rather than this bout. is there any crypto bookie who listed this fight already? or maybe see the odds couple of days before the fight or by next week.
are we going to see more MMA fighters in the boxing arena?? lol these mma fighters are seeing that boxing is a lucrative sport if marketed right. considering that they are already in the retirement status. i believe de silva will be favoured by bookies here once the odds open up for betting.

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I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.
Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva  Roll Eyes Cheesy.


Well, I hope this will be a good fight unlike what we saw between McGregor and Mayweather. And I think this is not all about money but having to show their skill in boxing as well.
The McGregor Mayweather fight happened at the right time when the hype of Conor McGregor was at its peak and they cashed out big time and earned the most money in a single day in the history of prize fighting and it is not a small feat by any means. Mayweather is the legend of the sport and he was untouchable by elite boxers while McGregor was making his debut and to make over $100 million for a debut is not heard before in history.
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The McGregor Mayweather fight happened at the right time when the hype of Conor McGregor was at its peak and they cashed out big time and earned the most money in a single day in the history of prize fighting and it is not a small feat by any means. Mayweather is the legend of the sport and he was untouchable by elite boxers while McGregor was making his debut and to make over $100 million for a debut is not heard before in history.

The timing of that fight was perfect! And as for how you describe it, Conor was hot back then.

While Mayweather just beat Pacquiao and already accomplished everything inside the boxing ring, bringing them both inside the ring the promoters just did their job very well, imagine those fans from UFC who really loves Conor and those fans who previously loss from Pacquiao bets the frustration brings them to watch this event Hahaha.. Tongue
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August 31, 2021, 10:02:22 AM
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Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva  Roll Eyes Cheesy.
Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

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August 31, 2021, 10:32:29 AM
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Thanks for correcting me. After that injury, he never finds the rhythm and realizes that this venue is no longer for him.

Since he's a fighter, he manages to find other venue to showcase his talent, more on money making how the pattern
was created after the fight between Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Promoters find this kind of fight may attract the
combine fans of boxing and UFC.
Anderson Silva had boxers lined up during his reign in the UFC as the champion but Dana White was adamant that they will not allow anyone to cross over and fight a boxer and so is the reason we missed out some epic cross over fights during his prime. Now that he is retired from MMA he is trying his luck in boxing and have you seen his fight against Julio César Chávez Jr who went the distance against Canelo Álvarez and Anderson Silva defeated him.

Anderson Silva will finish Tito Ortiz in the first few rounds Grin.
I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.
Well, I hope this will be a good fight unlike what we saw between McGregor and Mayweather. And I think this is not all about money but having to show their skill in boxing as well.
Still boils down to money no matter what angle you look at it. And it's one of the biggest fights in history, next to Mayweather vs Pacquiao.

Silva already proved it, he has beaten a wash up Julio Chavez Jr, if there's anyone who needs to proved something, it will be Tito Ortiz as this is a new ball game for him. Again, I don't think luck plays here if Silva wins, this is going to be his second fight in months as compare to Ortiz who have been sideline for many years.

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August 31, 2021, 01:58:24 PM
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This date of the fight is a special one, it's also a day of memorial to those people that we've lost during the terror attack in World Trade Center and Pentagon but I digress hopefully this is a good exhibition fight and I think this is an even match up, Silva has the boxing experience and Ortiz has the beefy build that can endure punishment.

WOW You are absolutely right, I hope that by that date I can see the fight well calmly, because it is likely that my wife gives birth, she would already be in week 38 of pregnancy, I hope she can resist until week 39, but well we will see , since that fight promises a lot! However Silva I see a great probability of winning, Ortiz must be preparing very well because the last statistics that I have seen are in favor of Silva.

At this time, if they tell me to bet, I would not really know who to do it, I think they have their skills at this point very well defined and equal, I don't know what criteria to take, sometimes I lean towards Silva, but if it becomes a very technique fight will be difficult.

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WOW You are absolutely right, I hope that by that date I can see the fight well calmly, because it is likely that my wife gives birth, she would already be in week 38 of pregnancy, I hope she can resist until week 39, but well we will see , since that fight promises a lot! However Silva I see a great probability of winning, Ortiz must be preparing very well because the last statistics that I have seen are in favor of Silva.
Congrats and i am sure you are excited about your baby than the fight  Kiss. This fight is a one way ticket and there will be only one winner and that is Anderson Silva. There are levels in the skill level of each opponent.

At this time, if they tell me to bet, I would not really know who to do it, I think they have their skills at this point very well defined and equal, I don't know what criteria to take, sometimes I lean towards Silva, but if it becomes a very technique fight will be difficult.
The skill level is lopsided, Anderson Silva will win against Tito Ortiz in MMA and in boxing, technical striking there is no one who is better than Anderson Silva and his career is his proof. I am not expecting Anderson Silva at 46 years to challenge a young champion but he could beat majority of the boxers in his division.
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August 31, 2021, 11:44:28 PM
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Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva  Roll Eyes Cheesy.
Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

i think that's the main disadvantage of Ortiz here, first time to get inside the boxing ring. so more then likely, silva will be the heavy favourite here though odds are not yet out for this bout. i don't think we will see an upset here. both have the same age, so age should not be a question here. but they may differ in their prep training.

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September 01, 2021, 12:32:04 AM
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The event date is approaching fast and we have so much to look forward to. Silva and Ortiz are well-known boxers that have reputation to uphold. They are on the top of their games and are very much willing to win the match. Both can be seen to have a strong driving force to win the upcoming match.
Tf you're talking about? Well-known boxers? Are you a bit soft on the head or are you slow? Their not boxers dummy, they just transitioned from their respective discipline. And what you just pointed happens to almost any fighters out there so this isn't anything special.

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September 01, 2021, 01:00:38 AM
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Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva  Roll Eyes Cheesy.
Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

i think that's the main disadvantage of Ortiz here, first time to get inside the boxing ring. so more then likely, silva will be the heavy favourite here though odds are not yet out for this bout. i don't think we will see an upset here. both have the same age, so age should not be a question here. but they may differ in their prep training.

Silva has boxed already, so he knows how it feels to be inside the ring with a pro-boxer (although shot JCC Jr.), but still that's a big accomplishment already, switching from MMA to Boxing and won his first match.

I think the more shot here is Ortiz, for sure his weight has balloon and not being active as he has retired already. But hey, if he can make money so why not, even if he losses he has something to bring home. And it will fair that Silva will be the favourite if crypto sport bookies will open up the betting to the public.

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Silva has boxed already, so he knows how it feels to be inside the ring with a pro-boxer (although shot JCC Jr.), but still that's a big accomplishment already, switching from MMA to Boxing and won his first match.

I think the more shot here is Ortiz, for sure his weight has balloon and not being active as he has retired already. But hey, if he can make money so why not, even if he losses he has something to bring home. And it will fair that Silva will be the favourite if crypto sport bookies will open up the betting to the public.

More on money side then the additional exposure for his future plans.

Ortiz knows the advantage of Silva since he still active and he already have the experienced fighting inside boxing arena.
But for sure he won't accept it just like that, he also wanted to shows some of his hidden skills (I hope there's something)
will see then when the fight start.
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Their fight on September 11 will be real bouts and not just an exhibition. Meaning, it will be more thrilling and entertaining to watch and witness who will be the declared winner. The two will fight an eight round game with two minutes alloted time each round. Hopefully, the two will execute and give us a worthwhile game to see. Given that it will be broadcast in pay-per-view (because it's a boxing sport).

I don't really consider this as professional bouts even the fight is an undercard of a professional match. It's still more like an exhibition for me.

I think they can yield more money if they come back fighting on their usual sport which is mixed martial arts. It will be more supported and patronize by the fans because that's their specialty and that sport make them famous and reputable on that stage. Imagine, they are MMA fighters then suddenly will come out from retirement and will do boxing. I don't see any significance in doing that but only for pure money purposes.


That's completely right. They can call it whatever they want but two MMA fighters past their prime fighting each other with one having 0 boxing matches under his belt is not what I would call a pro boxing match. An exhibition, even tho for an exhibition it kinda has to be entertaining, maybe? no? Well, this won't be entertaining. As for the pay comments, The hard truth is that I think they can not make more money in MMA, but it also brings up a broader question of the current status between boxing and MMA

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After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito



and still with those odds my potential win looks pretty good. And no way I will cash out $1.80, no. I'm rooting for Tito!  Cool

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September 01, 2021, 03:26:22 PM
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Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva  Roll Eyes Cheesy.
Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

i think that's the main disadvantage of Ortiz here, first time to get inside the boxing ring. so more then likely, Silva will be the heavy favorite here though odds are not yet out for this bout. i don't think we will see an upset here. both have the same age, so age should not be a question here. but they may differ in their prep training.


Preparation would impact the outcome of this fight,

Silva has those experienced fighting inside this ring and it can be an advantage but we are not aware if how
Ortiz will do his homework, knowing that the opponent has such kind of edge against him.

There's still open possibilities that Ortiz may upset Silva if there's an open opportunity,
maybe a solid open punch may KO Silva, who knows right?
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September 02, 2021, 09:55:38 PM
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After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito
Since you placed a small amount of money on Tito Ortiz there is nothing much to worry. If you followed the career of Tito Ortiz in MMA you would know that he always spoke high about his skills before the fight even though he usually comes up with blunders as he would forget his lines most of the times and if you search youtube you will find many funny press conference where he is involved mainly against fighters who can talk back especially the press conference with Chael Sonnen.

Anderson Silva is not known to be a good promoter or never talks a big fight plan throughout his career and i am not expecting anything new from him now. I will not give Tito Ortiz even a punchers chance in this fight Wink.
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Ortiz knows the advantage of Silva since he still active and he already have the experienced fighting inside boxing arena.
But for sure he won't accept it just like that, he also wanted to shows some of his hidden skills (I hope there's something)
will see then when the fight start.
The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed.
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September 03, 2021, 01:32:53 AM
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After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito



and still with those odds my potential win looks pretty good. And no way I will cash out $1.80, no. I'm rooting for Tito!  Cool

Goodluck mate on your Tito Ortiz bet.



But I still stick with Anderson here, I mean he just won a boxing match and probably learn a lot of lessons from there and he could improved a lot. So probably another unanimous decision for him as Tito might get exhausted.

As compare to Tito who hasn't box, and even in MMA is stand up is just average and his chin is not that tough anymore as it has been broken many times already.

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September 03, 2021, 09:43:23 AM
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After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito
Since you placed a small amount of money on Tito Ortiz there is nothing much to worry. If you followed the career of Tito Ortiz in MMA you would know that he always spoke high about his skills before the fight even though he usually comes up with blunders as he would forget his lines most of the times and if you search youtube you will find many funny press conference where he is involved mainly against fighters who can talk back especially the press conference with Chael Sonnen.

Anderson Silva is not known to be a good promoter or never talks a big fight plan throughout his career and i am not expecting anything new from him now. I will not give Tito Ortiz even a punchers chance in this fight Wink.

I've encountered many of similar opinions. In fact, idk, is it possible to find anyone who thinks Tito is going to win? And yet, on average, betting sites are giving win probability of 70% to Silva. Notice, not even 80%, but 70. So, I think if your multiplier is 6x+, it's worth giving a shot.

After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito



and still with those odds my potential win looks pretty good. And no way I will cash out $1.80, no. I'm rooting for Tito!  Cool

Goodluck mate on your Tito Ortiz bet.


Thanks Dave! I know I will need it Smiley

But I still stick with Anderson here, I mean he just won a boxing match and probably learn a lot of lessons from there and he could improved a lot. So probably another unanimous decision for him as Tito might get exhausted.

As compare to Tito who hasn't box, and even in MMA is stand up is just average and his chin is not that tough anymore as it has been broken many times already.

I'm hoping for a win by knockout. I know he won't last long, judging by his look.

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September 03, 2021, 09:53:31 AM
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The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed.
But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

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September 03, 2021, 09:58:35 AM
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The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed.
But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

If he can outwit Silva by showing a new combination on the middle of the match then there's a great possibility that he can pin down Silva. I'm a fan of Silva on his prime because his reflex and counter attack is very accurate but multiple injuries really slow him down and make him very cautious on his match. I believe Silva will win if they are fighting on both there prime but on there current condition is a different story. Ortiz has a chance on this if the fight will always be an inside fight. Silva is already slow right now so Ortiz can catch up on his movement right and might land a big time punches. One thing is for sure, This match will gonna be a slow phase match!

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September 03, 2021, 12:27:05 PM
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The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed.
But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

If he can outwit Silva by showing a new combination on the middle of the match then there's a great possibility that he can pin down Silva. I'm a fan of Silva on his prime because his reflex and counter attack is very accurate but multiple injuries really slow him down and make him very cautious on his match. I believe Silva will win if they are fighting on both there prime but on there current condition is a different story. Ortiz has a chance on this if the fight will always be an inside fight. Silva is already slow right now so Ortiz can catch up on his movement right and might land a big time punches. One thing is for sure, This match will gonna be a slow phase match!

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

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September 03, 2021, 02:43:50 PM
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Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.
Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

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September 03, 2021, 04:28:21 PM
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The event date is approaching fast and we have so much to look forward to. Silva and Ortiz are well-known boxers that have reputation to uphold. They are on the top of their games and are very much willing to win the match. Both can be seen to have a strong driving force to win the upcoming match.

Not much to look forward to actually. And you are wrong, both Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz are not boxers. They are mixed martial arts fighters who are now looking for some money in boxing. You are also wrong to say that they are on top of their games. They are not even in their best shapes anymore. They are already old fighters. And the driving force in this match is not their desire to win but their desire to earn even after retirement.
Unfortunately this seems to be the case, however I find interesting that promoters decided to make the fight, after all they are taking a risk, boxing has already returned on full force and we are seeing the best of the best fighting against each other again and we have seen some good fights already, if this was done during the pandemic as several exhibitions fight that we watched then this could make more sense as everyone wanted to some some sports regardless of the quality, but to do this now under the current circumstances makes me doubtful the promoters will make money with this fight.

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September 04, 2021, 02:22:18 PM
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But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.
If he's still young I tend to agree with you, but he's already 46 years old and it's father time as he matured. I wouldn't expect anything for old people with no experience, I say no experience because he never in boxing before... he's a MMA fighter. I believe he will just play safely and play with strategy he more comfortable.

I'm a fan of Silva on his prime because his reflex and counter attack is very accurate but multiple injuries really slow him down and make him very cautious on his match. I believe Silva will win if they are fighting on both there prime but on there current condition is a different story. Ortiz has a chance on this if the fight will always be an inside fight.
I don't think so, the serious injuries he had was 7 years ago when he break his leg. But this is boxing not muay thai or kickboxing... so it's not really a problem, Silva is still prime with his current condition and age right now.

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September 04, 2021, 03:42:56 PM
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Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.
Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

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September 04, 2021, 08:46:30 PM
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Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.
Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.
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September 04, 2021, 08:57:09 PM
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Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.
Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.
This is a different sports that requires a lot of patience before if you don’t have it, you might lose control and this could be a disaster for you, though they’ve used to fight in MMA I guess they already trained to become a boxer now. Ortiz will race a huge fighter here, and it wont be easy for him but he has the chance to take the title, this could be a fight of patience. Well, as long as there’s a money some fighters will do it even if its on a different genre.
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September 05, 2021, 01:25:24 AM
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Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.
Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.

Yes, I was shocked to hear the news that Oscar contracted covid-19, he didn't take care of himself, he knows that he has a match. Anyhow, the fight is not totally scrapped, Evander Holyfield step up and willing to engage Belfort here.

But the bout will move to Florida instead, ticket price remains.

And I'm sure how Vitor will hold up against a heavyweight here. I reckon that this match is going to be fix and will last the full 8 rounds and could be a draw.

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September 05, 2021, 04:04:27 AM
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I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.
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September 05, 2021, 04:36:08 AM
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Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.
Actually he doesn't even need to read the whole thread. It's in the title.  Grin
I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32141180/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-19-vitor-belfort-now-face-evander-holyfield
They are forgetful about the fact that its not a perfect vaccine. Most are 80-90 percent protection against COVID and they should still wear their face mask wherever they will go or whoever they will meet. Let this be a lesson for our physical sports athletes. They still need to be careful until the match starts.
Casting my bet for Tito the underdog.  Wink Let's hope they will not try to pin down each other forgetting it's boxing or use a kick because of unintentional reflex actions.



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September 05, 2021, 11:24:43 AM
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https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32141180/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-19-vitor-belfort-now-face-evander-holyfield
They are forgetful about the fact that its not a perfect vaccine. Most are 80-90 percent protection against COVID and they should still wear their face mask wherever they will go or whoever they will meet. Let this be a lesson for our physical sports athletes. They still need to be careful until the match starts.

They needed not to go out anymore to insure that they would not get the virus,

this example will alarm everyone  about this virus as even you already got vaccinated, the chance to get infected still high.

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Casting my bet for Tito the underdog.  Wink Let's hope they will not try to pin down each other forgetting it's boxing or use a kick because of unintentional reflex actions.




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September 05, 2021, 11:28:23 AM
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I didn't expect that I am not gonna see De La Hoya anymore, with the current news, I think he will not anymore fight this year, so let's see who will be able to replace him as the fight is the main event, they should still keep the excitement.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-withdraws-vitor-belfort-fight-n1278513

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September 05, 2021, 12:07:56 PM
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I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Holyfield is now the replacement for Oscar, I'm sure he is also disappointed contracting the virus because he is really on the go to make a comeback fight. Unfortunately, in the world we live in today, the enemy is invincible.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.

Hopefully they will, they should learn from Oscar here. Don't go outside of public places and limit themselves around many people until fight night. Money has been invested on this fight and there's no way that it will be cancelled by the promotional company.

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I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.
That is a huge change in the fight experience i was expecting. Oscar De La Hoya returning at 48 and Vitor Belfort at 44 years was interesting but Evander Holyfield is a legend of the sport but 58 years of age. I am still expecting Evander Holyfield to win the fight because of his boxing skills but i am not sure about his conditioning.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.
Silva is the superior fight, as i said earlier in this thread Anderson silva will beat Tito Ortiz in any competitive sport, be it MMA, BJJ or Boxing on the wrestling front Tito Ortiz might have an advantage but the rest Anderson Silva is far far superior.
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I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.
That is a huge change in the fight experience i was expecting. Oscar De La Hoya returning at 48 and Vitor Belfort at 44 years was interesting but Evander Holyfield is a legend of the sport but 58 years of age. I am still expecting Evander Holyfield to win the fight because of his boxing skills but i am not sure about his conditioning.


Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.



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September 05, 2021, 11:49:59 PM
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Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.
You did  not see Evander Holyfield fight after his retirement  Cheesy. The meaning itself is stopping what they are doing now and moving on to another field Tongue. I was expecting Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson batting and it could have attracted a huge crowd but fighting against Vitor Belfort does not give you the same level of excitement.

They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.
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Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.
You did  not see Evander Holyfield fight after his retirement  Cheesy. The meaning itself is stopping what they are doing now and moving on to another field Tongue. I was expecting Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson batting and it could have attracted a huge crowd but fighting against Vitor Belfort does not give you the same level of excitement.

They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.

This one, I think, is worth just watching for entertainment purposes. But for heavy betting, I don't think this is worth to place on in my opinion. We grew up hearing name of Holyfield but with his age today, I don't think he has the same stamina to even stay in the ring. Just another exhibition fight to watch without pressure.
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I'm a fan of UFC and I respect both fighters. I'm concerned about Tito Ortiz on this one since he's not really a boxer and he hasn't really won his previous tenure in UFC being dominant in his stand up game. Silva has the edge when it comes to striking but Tito can make this a fight. They're both 46 yrs. old and we all know this is more of a money fight than a real competition. Anderson is my solid pick on this one.
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September 06, 2021, 01:12:09 AM
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I'm a fan of UFC and I respect both fighters. I'm concerned about Tito Ortiz on this one since he's not really a boxer and he hasn't really won his previous tenure in UFC being dominant in his stand up game. Silva has the edge when it comes to striking but Tito can make this a fight. They're both 46 yrs. old and we all know this is more of a money fight than a real competition. Anderson is my solid pick on this one.

Yeah, we will see how Tito's body will respond on this fight. If he wanted out of shape or at least gasses out, then I'm seeing Silva knocking him down or out in this fight.

If he come prepared, then at least he could give us a entertaining fight till it last. Yes, Silva is well rounded, as he last fought with a pro boxer and really has the edge here. At least Tito can make money even if he losses against Anderson. And probably Anderson will continue to fight, and maybe see him challenge the winner of Holyfield vs Belfort.

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September 06, 2021, 01:47:27 AM
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They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.
Correct. Aren't there any fighters that would be near the age of Belfort. That's just silly because there will always be a reason if ever Belfort wins it.
Fans and analysts will just simply say because he is too old for the match. Unlike when they match him with almost the same age as him, there will be not much room for doubts and bets will go higher. Because right now even though I vouch for underdogs, I am in no doubt to bet for Belfort and I think most gamblers will do the same.
That's the spirit bro! huge outcome with the risk that you are taking now, who knows maybe it's  a script that this event promoters already setup.

few more days left , best of luck !
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If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.

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September 06, 2021, 05:54:15 AM
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If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.
It still depends on how they take care of their body, not because they are already at that age, they won't be fun to watch or they could not give a good fight.  Look at the list of oldest champions in boxing, the oldest was Steve Ward a 61-year-old man.
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If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.

I mean, time works on both fighters and when it comes to ring rust Anderson has had more recent fights but those were losses and maybe he's spent more... BUT, this is a boxing match and MMA math does not apply here imho. The one thing that does appl is that Anderson is and always was a better striker than Tito.

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September 06, 2021, 07:59:59 AM
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Odds now for Tito is 6.6 while 1.09 for Anderson. As much as I would like to take on that juicy line for the underdog but I can't see him winning Grin I guess I'll just become a spectator here. I don't expect a KO but Silva should be able to land a lot of stiff jabs while evading haymakers/overhands.
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September 06, 2021, 08:19:58 AM
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Odds now for Tito is 6.6 while 1.09 for Anderson. As much as I would like to take on that juicy line for the underdog but I can't see him winning Grin I guess I'll just become a spectator here. I don't expect a KO but Silva should be able to land a lot of stiff jabs while evading haymakers/overhands.
Just don't touch that odds if you don't see even a very small chance that Tito would win this fight. Gambling is fun if you bet on a fighter that you think has a chance, if not, you are just wasting money and you'll not enjoy watching betting on the fighter you are not confident to win.

Maybe look for the handicap betting, that would best suit you, I guess.

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Overall I think bettors underestimate the guy. Just watch this short video to see who he really is. He's a beast. Think of Silva as a veteran? Read what they say about Tito in the top comment: "The guys he beat were solid vets, and he smashed em."

Can't wait for the fight to start. Looking forward for an early knockout. Smiley

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If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.

I mean, time works on both fighters and when it comes to ring rust Anderson has had more recent fights but those were losses and maybe he's spent more... BUT, this is a boxing match and MMA math does not apply here imho. The one thing that does appl is that Anderson is and always was a better striker than Tito.

And since it's a boxing ring, it's more favorable to anyone who has a much better striking stats than to the other who will try to counter each punch that being thrown to him.

In case of Ortiz where we don't know what kind of preparation he did before this fight, there's always a big edge for Silva knowing that he already dealing with this sports way ahead from Ortiz and all those previous fights are wins, that adds up to his confidence and give him much token in the eyes of the fans.

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If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.
It still depends on how they take care of their body, not because they are already at that age, they won't be fun to watch or they could not give a good fight.  Look at the list of oldest champions in boxing, the oldest was Steve Ward a 61-year-old man.
source : 10 Oldest Professional Boxers in the World

That is if they have regular routine of exercise/training even before this exhibition match.
But anyway, this is not really a serious match just for entertainment per se.
So won't bet in any of them, just enjoy what's left of them inside the ring.
And see if they still have that power in them to stage exhibition fights and give some entertainment to the fans.
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I don't know if anyone saw Tito Ortiz body transformation after losing a bunch of weight in last few weeks, but this is totally crazy and he will not be able to stand long in his feet with Silva.
He must be around 195 pounds or fight may be postponed, and I am betting all my money on Anderson Silva to win unless some miracle happens, and I think fight will not go to distance.
Ortiz said he lost his respect for Anderson Silva for making him lose so much weight in contract, but I think he is just being a politician.

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Odds now for Tito is 6.6 while 1.09 for Anderson. As much as I would like to take on that juicy line for the underdog but I can't see him winning Grin I guess I'll just become a spectator here. I don't expect a KO but Silva should be able to land a lot of stiff jabs while evading haymakers/overhands.
On the Stake sportsbook odds are currently at @1.08 for Anderson Silva vs @5.80 for Tito Ortiz, and I really think I will place a bet on Anderson Silva aka the Spider despite the pretty law payout because the speed of his legendary dodges and of his strikes is just amazing. Tito Ortiz just can't cope with that and what notblox1 said above just takes away his last chances.

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On the Stake sportsbook odds are currently at @1.08 for Anderson Silva vs @5.80 for Tito Ortiz, and I really think I will place a bet on Anderson Silva aka the Spider despite the pretty law payout because the speed of his legendary dodges and of his strikes is just amazing. Tito Ortiz just can't cope with that and what notblox1 said above just takes away his last chances.

I'm amazed at your risky bet. @1.08 is almost nothing to return and it's more painful to lose it in case Silva lose.

I don't have the guts to bet on that odds even Silva is a much more dominant and strong compare to Ortiz. The chances of Ortiz winning is very very slim but in exhibition match, sometimes there are flaws especially at this fight where odds are distant. Good luck to you.

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September 07, 2021, 01:47:54 AM
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Maybe look for the handicap betting, that would best suit you, I guess.
I could do handicap betting if this was a pure MMA match and there's something on the line (not just money). No matter how they talk/act tough in front of media, this is still some boxing exhibition match where anything can happen. You never really know what's happening behind the scenes. I don't want to take that risk.
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Maybe look for the handicap betting, that would best suit you, I guess.
I could do handicap betting if this was a pure MMA match and there's something on the line (not just money). No matter how they talk/act tough in front of media, this is still some boxing exhibition match where anything can happen. You never really know what's happening behind the scenes. I don't want to take that risk.

Yeah, this could be fix as well for all we know. Maybe it can end up in a draw, leaving a bad taste for the fans, specially bettors. I remember Tyson vs Roy Jones, it was a draw when we clearly see the Tyson should have won. But the judges gave it a draw, and then the reaction of fans around and all those who lost their bet on that fight. So this could end up in a similar fashion.

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Maybe look for the handicap betting, that would best suit you, I guess.
I could do handicap betting if this was a pure MMA match and there's something on the line (not just money). No matter how they talk/act tough in front of media, this is still some boxing exhibition match where anything can happen. You never really know what's happening behind the scenes. I don't want to take that risk.

Looks like they've already fixed the match since Ortiz is already old and cannot keep up for long. what we will see in this fight is some kind of moderated fight where we see some action but at the end of the fight, the one who they want to win will be victorious. I don't mind seeing those veterans fight again in the ring as long as we know what's going on and we don't expect anything other than some short entertainment.

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September 07, 2021, 09:19:18 AM
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Yeah, this could be fix as well for all we know. Maybe it can end up in a draw, leaving a bad taste for the fans, specially bettors. I remember Tyson vs Roy Jones, it was a draw when we clearly see the Tyson should have won. But the judges gave it a draw, and then the reaction of fans around and all those who lost their bet on that fight. So this could end up in a similar fashion.
It's possible but it's unlikely, usually a fixed match and end up in a draw is when the both fighters has a lot respect, supporters and hype. In this match I don't really see that factors from both sides, Tito Ortiz is similar as unknown fighter here with less fans. It's different with Tyson had a lot fans since he's one of a legends, Roy Jones had a good boxing record and a lot fans too.

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September 07, 2021, 10:40:00 AM
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4 days before the fight , still doubting the credibility of the bout since there are occasions recently in which the Good expectation from bettors and fans end up being Draw and that is frustrating .

Boxing committee is making fool of the boxing community and this is the reason why Boxing is getting low feedback not like from the past when boxing enthusiast really exploring all areas of this sport but now since this has being rigged i don't know how long will it take for them to recover.

I am not betting on this one as i have lose recently in Pacquiao's fight . maybe i will wait for Inoue and Casimero to decide.

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I am not betting on this one as i have lose recently in Pacquiao's fight . maybe i will wait for Inoue and Casimero to decide.

Do like a guy few posts above did - bet a minimum amount on Spider just to feel the emotions  Cheesy You wont lose much, but you will watch this event definitely.

Come on man, you a loosing an evening with beer, chips and salt nuts Cheesy

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September 07, 2021, 01:03:54 PM
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I am not betting on this one as i have lose recently in Pacquiao's fight . maybe i will wait for Inoue and Casimero to decide.
looks like you bet a large amount, so that it makes you traumatized by betting on this fight?
can't this fight be an opportunity for you to return the lost money?


Do like a guy few posts above did - bet a minimum amount on Spider just to feel the emotions  Cheesy You wont lose much, but you will watch this event definitely.

Come on man, you a loosing an evening with beer, chips and salt nuts Cheesy
we can't force him to make a choice in that fight, because maybe apart from being traumatized, he already spent his money on the pacquiao fight Grin.

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Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent.  Don't underestimate him.  His nickname in his youth is King Kong. 

He received this nickname for the power of the blow, as well as for the height of 193 cm and the arm span of 2 meters.  As a rookie, he was not afraid to box with experienced professionals.  And very often he supported victories!  That is, he is undaunted.  Louis doesn't like to give up.  He will fight to win. 

Perhaps he is older than what is written in his passport.  This is a minus.  Nevertheless, Luis Ortiz during his lifetime was accustomed not to give up and overcome all difficulties. 

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

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September 07, 2021, 03:00:16 PM
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Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent.  Don't underestimate him.  His nickname in his youth is King Kong. 

He received this nickname for the power of the blow, as well as for the height of 193 cm and the arm span of 2 meters.  As a rookie, he was not afraid to box with experienced professionals.  And very often he supported victories!  That is, he is undaunted.  Louis doesn't like to give up.  He will fight to win. 

Perhaps he is older than what is written in his passport.  This is a minus.  Nevertheless, Luis Ortiz during his lifetime was accustomed not to give up and overcome all difficulties. 

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

He is a dangerous fighter I have watch his past matches when he was a young fighter but we are talking about boxing where the gloves are heavily padded and you can only use your fist not to mention there are a lot of things in MMA that you cannot do in boxing just look at the recent match between Woodley and Paul, Woodley is restricted even though he packs a power in MMA.

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September 07, 2021, 05:47:56 PM
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Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent.  Don't underestimate him.  His nickname in his youth is King Kong. 

He received this nickname for the power of the blow, as well as for the height of 193 cm and the arm span of 2 meters.  As a rookie, he was not afraid to box with experienced professionals.  And very often he supported victories!  That is, he is undaunted.  Louis doesn't like to give up.  He will fight to win. 

Perhaps he is older than what is written in his passport.  This is a minus.  Nevertheless, Luis Ortiz during his lifetime was accustomed not to give up and overcome all difficulties. 

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

He is a dangerous fighter I have watch his past matches when he was a young fighter but we are talking about boxing where the gloves are heavily padded and you can only use your fist not to mention there are a lot of things in MMA that you cannot do in boxing just look at the recent match between Woodley and Paul, Woodley is restricted even though he packs a power in MMA.

Hopefully Ortiz won't forget about the rules Grin but yes, just like how we saw Woodley as he's restricted doing things inside the boxing ring, the edge of Silva knowing all the rules and very much familiar with the ring matchup.

We will see how things will end up. It's only some days to see this match and conclude who's the better fighter among these two inside the boxing ring.

Interesting to see if Ortiz will luckily throw that heavy punch that may land to Silvas' face and knock him down. Who knows, right?

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Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent.  Don't underestimate him.  His nickname in his youth is King Kong.  

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

Who is Luis Ortiz? Anderson “Spider” Silva will fight Tito “ The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Ortiz.
I think you have confused something. Wrong Tito my friend. Plus Luis is a heavyweight. He and Anderson Silva will never meet in the ring.

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September 07, 2021, 07:51:13 PM
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If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.
That is an interesting point, if both of the fighters were younger I will think the same, but you are right when you say that at such an old age it is difficult to know which one is the one that has the most chances of winning, after all it is easy to see people on their forties that look as if they are in their fifties while there are some that look to be on their thirties and this difference could be enough to decide who will be the winner of this fight.

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September 08, 2021, 03:46:57 AM
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Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent.  Don't underestimate him.  His nickname in his youth is King Kong.  

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

Who is Luis Ortiz? Anderson “Spider” Silva will fight Tito “ The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Ortiz.
I think you have confused something. Wrong Tito my friend. Plus Luis is a heavyweight. He and Anderson Silva will never meet in the ring.

He might have been mistaken, Luis Ortiz is a Cuban professional boxer, he is heavyweight and have fights with Deontay Wilder. LOL.

In any case, even if they meet on their primes, I will still have Anderson Silva winning. We have seen him during his MMA days as one of the best pound for pound. But both of them have retired and fighting in a boxing ring, just for the money.

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September 08, 2021, 06:39:55 AM
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Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent.  Don't underestimate him.  His nickname in his youth is King Kong.  

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

Who is Luis Ortiz? Anderson “Spider” Silva will fight Tito “ The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Ortiz.
I think you have confused something. Wrong Tito my friend. Plus Luis is a heavyweight. He and Anderson Silva will never meet in the ring.

He may mistype it he is thinking of Tito but mistypes it to Luis because he knows a fighter by the name of Luis Ortiz who is a heavyweight fighter, Ortiz is a very popular surname among fighters there are a lot of Ortiz in boxing, another one is Vergil Ortiz Jr., I also thought the other name of Tito is Luis but glad we have corrected it.

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September 08, 2021, 08:51:30 AM
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~ In any case, even if they meet on their primes, I will still have Anderson Silva winning. We have seen him during his MMA days as one of the best pound for pound. But both of them have retired and fighting in a boxing ring, just for the money.

I think each fight is different, and physical condition and skill are not the only factors that affect the result. Another important thing that I wouldn't discount is the combative mindset of Tito who said recently regarding Anderson Silva:

"He’s one of the best mixed martial artists but I lost respect for him. So it gives me a little more energy, a little more aggressiveness during camp to punch this guy’s face off."

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

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September 08, 2021, 10:54:55 AM
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Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent.  Don't underestimate him.  His nickname in his youth is King Kong. 

He received this nickname for the power of the blow, as well as for the height of 193 cm and the arm span of 2 meters.  As a rookie, he was not afraid to box with experienced professionals.  And very often he supported victories!  That is, he is undaunted.  Louis doesn't like to give up.  He will fight to win. 

Perhaps he is older than what is written in his passport.  This is a minus.  Nevertheless, Luis Ortiz during his lifetime was accustomed not to give up and overcome all difficulties. 

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

There is one problem with your analysis, and that is that Luis Ortiz is not fighting Anderson Silva, Tito Ortiz is Cheesy Not the same Ortiz, not the same credibility, and not the same fight Cheesy

In other news...

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/9/7/22661724/donald-trump-lands-commentary-role-for-holyfield-vs-belfort-silva-vs-ortiz-triller-ppv-boxing-news?fbclid=IwAR0Lg7nHhyaFhvfpMHOdzS0js7GmhGe0A4MJSFGdIvx_wjDts95VAJ1KedA

why is this even a thing? Trump as a commentator? I mean, boxing has looked like a caricature of itself for some years now, but this is just out of any boundaries.

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September 08, 2021, 11:12:55 AM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

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September 08, 2021, 11:44:05 AM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

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September 08, 2021, 08:46:39 PM
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I am not betting on this one as i have lose recently in Pacquiao's fight . maybe i will wait for Inoue and Casimero to decide.

Do like a guy few posts above did - bet a minimum amount on Spider just to feel the emotions  Cheesy You wont lose much, but you will watch this event definitely.

Come on man, you a loosing an evening with beer, chips and salt nuts Cheesy

You are absolutely right, I really did not want to bet on the Pacquiao fight even though he is a great boxing legend, after I saw that he lost with Mayweather, also when I saw that the Cuban had that hunger to win I preferred not to bet, but In this case it is always different, both fighters are very good and have impeccable techniques, although I see Silva with incredible preparation. I am in favor of watching this fight and enjoying it with a couple of beers, with some friends, only 2 days left.

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September 08, 2021, 11:35:24 PM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.
Actually Anderson Silva said recently exactly what you mentioned: there is no favorites until the fight is over.
He is aware about his situation as a "newbie" boxer and will try to use all his skills and techniques learned from MMA against Ortiz. He knows he has to avoid punches and dodge in circles maximum as possible until Ortiz spends his energy and stamina. Maybe he can even hold some accurate jabs from Ortiz without compromising his performance, because it doesn't really look like Ortiz is much stronger than him.

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September 08, 2021, 11:48:02 PM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

I think @Betwrong quoted that from Tito Ortiz, because he has a bet on him,  Grin.

Yeah, it might not be enough to knock out anyone in his boxing exhibition fight, but it will be enough to take a W against Tito Ortiz.

And as others have said, “Fights begin and end with handshakes.”, so let's see how this fight goes, for sure there is still mutual respect from this two warriors.

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September 09, 2021, 09:06:55 AM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

That's what I'm hoping for: a hard hit on target during the first minutes. Anderson Silva is very good at avoiding hits, so it won't be that easy for Tito to do, but he must because the longer the fight, the less chances of winning for him.

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This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

On the other hand, they won't be just walking around the ring. The tickets to the fight are not cheap: $506, $256, $156, $106, $81 and $66, if you want to watch in the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood. And I suppose Pay-Per-View watching won't be free either. People who paid the money would be very disappointed if there were no real fight.

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I think @Betwrong quoted that from Tito Ortiz, because he has a bet on him,  Grin.
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Yep, that's right.  Smiley

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September 09, 2021, 10:43:06 AM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

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September 09, 2021, 11:44:09 AM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

KO or not, they should give the fans their's money worth, ticket are that expensive in my opinion even for casual fans. But who knows how the fight might turn out, but I'm guessing it could be up to the last round and then both fighters showing respect. Both are obviously old, but Anderson has a recent fight so he seems to be the fresher. So Ortiz should train hard for this one, as it could really do good for him in the future. Maybe we can see him fight another day.

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September 09, 2021, 12:57:51 PM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

KO or not, they should give the fans their's money worth, ticket are that expensive in my opinion even for casual fans. But who knows how the fight might turn out, but I'm guessing it could be up to the last round and then both fighters showing respect. Both are obviously old, but Anderson has a recent fight so he seems to be the fresher. So Ortiz should train hard for this one, as it could really do good for him in the future. Maybe we can see him fight another day.

Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.

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September 09, 2021, 01:20:43 PM
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With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

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Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

KO or not, they should give the fans their's money worth, ticket are that expensive in my opinion even for casual fans. But who knows how the fight might turn out, but I'm guessing it could be up to the last round and then both fighters showing respect. Both are obviously old, but Anderson has a recent fight so he seems to be the fresher. So Ortiz should train hard for this one, as it could really do good for him in the future. Maybe we can see him fight another day.

Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.
I'm looking forward to having a good fight either. They are both fighters and probably they have the same spirit. This is not just simple entertainment because people are expecting a real fight, not running. If they will understand it, then probably they will give the best fight ever in boxing history. They have to value the time and money of those who watch and wait this event.

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Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.

Just like Rigondeaux did in his fight against Casimero no I don't think so it's Ortiz debut in boxing he will try to make a good impression and Silva has a good ring generalship although he runs he always engages and always counterpunch, this is not going to be a boring fight, both fighters have something to prove even at their old age, they don't want people to say that they are past their prime.

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September 09, 2021, 04:08:09 PM
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In other news...

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/9/7/22661724/donald-trump-lands-commentary-role-for-holyfield-vs-belfort-silva-vs-ortiz-triller-ppv-boxing-news?fbclid=IwAR0Lg7nHhyaFhvfpMHOdzS0js7GmhGe0A4MJSFGdIvx_wjDts95VAJ1KedA

why is this even a thing? Trump as a commentator? I mean, boxing has looked like a caricature of itself for some years now, but this is just out of any boundaries.
I thought you were caught by a bad article but I did try to research and to my shock, it is real. ESPN also posted the news September 8.
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Former President Donald Trump has signed a contract to provide commentary on a "gamecast" of Saturday's boxing event headlined by Evander Holyfield vs. Vitor Belfort, Triller told ESPN on Tuesday.

His son Donald Trump Jr. will join him at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida.

"I love great fighters and great fights," Donald Trump Sr. said. "I look forward to seeing both this Saturday night and sharing my thoughts ringside. You won't want to miss this special event."
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32167639/donald-trump-son-provide-commentary-evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-alternate-telecast
Not much to worry, it's just a special event and they are not really the main commentators of the fight. When it comes to stars having fight like this, they all want to be a part of it. A lot of people will be watching it so it's a good place to make some advertisements or just to be featured for future use.  Grin
So they call alternate cast now as "gamecast". New to me.

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September 09, 2021, 05:02:14 PM
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Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.
Just like Rigondeaux did in his fight against Casimero no I don't think so it's Ortiz debut in boxing he will try to make a good impression and Silva has a good ring generalship although he runs he always engages and always counterpunch, this is not going to be a boring fight, both fighters have something to prove even at their old age, they don't want people to say that they are past their prime.

Maybe ortiz could win if this was 2006 or 2007 because Ortiz was in his Glory days that time and Anderson Silva had his fair share of struggle among the big guys. But now I honestly see no way how Ortiz is going to beat Silva. Yes, Silva may not be the same dangerous and prolific kicker that he was before he broke his leg but still he is in a good form and certainly not washed. So if I were Ortiz I would be really nervous.

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September 09, 2021, 11:24:51 PM
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Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.
Just like Rigondeaux did in his fight against Casimero no I don't think so it's Ortiz debut in boxing he will try to make a good impression and Silva has a good ring generalship although he runs he always engages and always counterpunch, this is not going to be a boring fight, both fighters have something to prove even at their old age, they don't want people to say that they are past their prime.

Maybe ortiz could win if this was 2006 or 2007 because Ortiz was in his Glory days that time and Anderson Silva had his fair share of struggle among the big guys. But now I honestly see no way how Ortiz is going to beat Silva. Yes, Silva may not be the same dangerous and prolific kicker that he was before he broke his leg but still he is in a good form and certainly not washed. So if I were Ortiz I would be really nervous.

But no odds yet, we don't know who is the favorite of crypto bookies here but more than likely, same with fiat-based bookie, Silva is their favorite to win - https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/anderson-silva-vs-tito-ortiz-odds-prediction-betting-picks. Seems that crypto bookies didn't pick-up this match as it is only a day before the fight.
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But no odds yet, we don't know who is the favorite of crypto bookies here but more than likely, same with fiat-based bookie, Silva is their favorite to win - https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/anderson-silva-vs-tito-ortiz-odds-prediction-betting-picks. Seems that crypto bookies didn't pick-up this match as it is only a day before the fight.

You are wrong. Here's the current odds on some gambling sites accepting crypto:

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I'm pretty sure there are more of them crypto bookies accepting bets on this fight, I just showed the 3 I know of.

Hint: What you could do before making your post was reading, at least briefly, through the thread, and you'd know that some of us here placed their bets already. Wink



As we can see very few bettors believe in Tito's win, but I personally think that with those odds he's worth betting on. Which I did. Smiley

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^^ It's a huge gap for Silva here, it seems that bookies didn't give Tito a chance to win.

I'm not going to bet on this one though, my gambling capital has been spent on other games already. I know that you bet on Tito ML here if I'm not mistaken. But it's better to wait for more betting options for Silva here. Straight ML bet is obviously not very attractive.
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September 11, 2021, 10:19:11 PM
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Tito Ortiz missed a weight after trying to cut from 240 to 195 pounds and I am sure he will be pissed, but 20% more money goes to Anderson Silva.
I don't like Triller fights and what if some miracle happens and they decide this fight is a draw like with Tyson.
Evander Holyfield fighting at his age 58 is crazy but he looks much better than poor starving Ortiz  Cheesy


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September 12, 2021, 02:23:37 AM
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What a fight Silva caught Ortiz with a huge uppercut and two shots to the head to pull a knock out Silva really waited for a moment to land that big punch because he is good at ducking and moving while hitting, Ortiz was flat in the ring it takes several seconds after the fight before he hets up glad that he is ok, Silva is really good maybe a fight with one of the Paul is looming.



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September 12, 2021, 02:50:09 AM
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Lol Cheesy

Like what I said before, I'm really confident and expected Anderson Silva will win this fight since Tito Ortiz is new on boxing. He got KO'ed on first round, it's already show clear lack of skills and only fight to earn money. Silva's counter attack was pretty good, he play defensive first and wait the moment to punch Ortiz with powerful uppercut.

Silva is really good maybe a fight with one of the Paul is looming.
No no Paul will not fight with Silva since he doesn't want to lose, maybe he fight with Ortiz and win easily to make his record still undefeated Grin

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September 12, 2021, 02:55:54 AM
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Lol Cheesy

Like what I said before, I'm really confident and expected Anderson Silva will win this fight since Tito Ortiz is new on boxing. He got KO'ed on first round, it's already show clear lack of skills and only fight to earn money. Silva's counter attack was pretty good, he play defensive first and wait the moment to punch Ortiz with powerful uppercut.



It's easy to predict who wins in this fight but never expect to come this early, Silva exploited Ortiz inexperienced in the boxing ring he baits Ortiz in the corner and in the rope so he can open his defense and he succeeds with a huge uppercut in the early seconds of the round Ortiz is very aggressive and that shows his inexperienced in boxing he doesn't know how to pace himself.

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September 12, 2021, 03:21:57 AM
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What a fight Silva caught Ortiz with a huge uppercut and two shots to the head to pull a knock out Silva really waited for a moment to land that big punch because he is good at ducking and moving while hitting, Ortiz was flat in the ring it takes several seconds after the fight before he hets up glad that he is ok, Silva is really good maybe a fight with one of the Paul is looming.

Yeah, timing is perfect for Anderson Silva, his ducking and weaving while Tito Ortiz is on the offensive.

And then he caught him in the head and that's it, Ortiz was out in the floor and the referee didn't bother to count as obviously he is not getting up. And it's obvious from the beginning that Ortiz doesn't have the power, he just touches Silva and that's it.

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September 12, 2021, 03:30:55 AM
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^^ It's a huge gap for Silva here, it seems that bookies didn't give Tito a chance to win.

And now we know why crypto bookies didn't give Tito a chance because he doesn't. He was knock out.

It's easy to predict who wins in this fight but never expect to come this early, Silva exploited Ortiz inexperienced in the boxing ring he baits Ortiz in the corner and in the rope so he can open his defense and he succeeds with a huge uppercut in the early seconds of the round Ortiz is very aggressive and that shows his inexperienced in boxing he doesn't know how to pace himself.

Yeah, didn't expect the knock out coming and in the first round to boot. Silva is confident in boxing right now, love how he turtle up like Floyd in the side and playing good defense and then that shot that knock out Oritz. Why not Paul vs Silva next?


As for Belfort vs Holyfield, Evander has no business in the ring, he is 58 years old. He shouldn't accept this fight.

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As for Belfort vs Holyfield, Evander has no business in the ring, he is 58 years old. He shouldn't accept this fight.

I agree I am a fan of Holyfield he is really a tough fighter in his younger days but he is already aged and past his prime, the speed, the timing, and the power are not there anymore,  I would like to remember the great Holyfield in the '90s I'm glad that he did not get hurt or knock out, this is a lesson that old fighters should not get in the ring again against a younger fighter.

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September 12, 2021, 06:03:14 AM
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As for Belfort vs Holyfield, Evander has no business in the ring, he is 58 years old. He shouldn't accept this fight.

I agree I am a fan of Holyfield he is really a tough fighter in his younger days but he is already aged and past his prime, the speed, the timing, and the power are not there anymore,  I would like to remember the great Holyfield in the '90s I'm glad that he did not get hurt or knock out, this is a lesson that old fighters should not get in the ring again against a younger fighter.
Evander should not partake on this kind of event because His health is at risk here , even if this will be a exhibition game yet i don't think he is fit anymore to have the fight.
He had already shown His skills and His legacy will remain forever he must not ruin those just by taking this fight for a cause.
What a fight Silva caught Ortiz with a huge uppercut and two shots to the head to pull a knock out Silva really waited for a moment to land that big punch because he is good at ducking and moving while hitting, Ortiz was flat in the ring it takes several seconds after the fight before he hets up glad that he is ok, Silva is really good maybe a fight with one of the Paul is looming.


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Anderson Silva has a second career in boxing he should have entered the boxing world earlier, but he is still good and he still has those power and good movement, I thought Silva's career is over after a series of losses, now we'll see who will fight next I hope Paul take this fight or any worthy opponent.
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September 12, 2021, 06:21:43 AM
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Silva is really good maybe a fight with one of the Paul is looming.
No no Paul will not fight with Silva since he doesn't want to lose, maybe he fight with Ortiz and win easily to make his record still undefeated Grin
I doubt that. Every fight is possible with all these exhibition matches especially when the price is right. They don't have a professional boxing reputation or record to begin with.



It felt good seeing Tito KO'd but I pity Evander. I hope Vitor wasn't juiced in fighting an almost senior citizen.
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Well, I was wrong about this being a glorified sparing match, but was right about it being a dipropotional advantage to Silva. It was sad to be honest, those two had no reason to be matched up together. I can't say much about Tito, it now seems he's delusional to think he could win and if he was in it only for money he had to give a chunk of his earnings to Silva because he missed weight. Way to go Tito, not the smartes one out there.

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All the favorites win today, and they won by round 1 KO. I thought the fight would not be this interesting, but I was wrong, great fight and congratulations to the winners for a very impressive win, especially for Anderson Silva who wasn't too aggressive in the fight but have found the right timing to counter Ortiz and put him on the ground.

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I don't know if Tito Ortiz took a dive or if he is badly washed up but that was an embarrassment. MMA fighters that don't have any experience in boxing should stay far away from the ring. They should enjoy retirement instead of looking for an easy payday by risking getting badly hurt.

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September 12, 2021, 08:22:01 AM
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What a fight Silva caught Ortiz with a huge uppercut and two shots to the head to pull a knock out Silva really waited for a moment to land that big punch because he is good at ducking and moving while hitting, Ortiz was flat in the ring it takes several seconds after the fight before he hets up glad that he is ok, Silva is really good maybe a fight with one of the Paul is looming.



That was an expected result given that Silva has more experience in the boxing ring than him. Damn! it only took 1 round to finish him up. The thing is, they started to go all out in the first of the round and finished the fight early than most of us expected.

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I don't know if Tito Ortiz took a dive or if he is badly washed up but that was an embarrassment. MMA fighters that don't have any experience in boxing should stay far away from the ring. They should enjoy retirement instead of looking for an easy payday by risking getting badly hurt.

I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

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September 12, 2021, 10:24:33 AM
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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.
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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.

Fixed fight? how would anyone benefit from a fixed fight in this fight, they are old and they will surely not gonna have more fights in the future, and Ortiz would not allow himself to get hurt that bad if he is in for the fixed fight, maybe this fight would be boring if this is a fixed one.

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September 12, 2021, 12:05:27 PM
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I don't know if Tito Ortiz took a dive or if he is badly washed up but that was an embarrassment. MMA fighters that don't have any experience in boxing should stay far away from the ring. They should enjoy retirement instead of looking for an easy payday by risking getting badly hurt.

I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

That would be so dirty if they fix the fight,  I mean, this kind of fight suppose to give entertainment to the fans, and I think the fans entertained as they saw a KO win by Silva. I know Silva is the heavy favorite here, and we were never wrong because he wins the fight easily.

I think Silva deserves to have another match, a fight that would last a little longer and that could challenge him.

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How about the fight between Evander Holyfield and Vitor Belfort? I guess Vitor Belfort use his advantage which is being a younger fighter than Holyfield which is already 58 years old. I thought they'll play it soft, but Belfort was really going for a kill and I never saw that Holyfield was able to throw some solid punches.

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Silva found a new career in boxing at least in this sport his leg isn't going to abused as a target for his weakness. looks like an easy win for him.

How about the fight between Evander Holyfield and Vitor Belfort? I guess Vitor Belfort use his advantage which is being a younger fighter than Holyfield which is already 58 years old. I thought they'll play it soft, but Belfort was really going for a kill and I never saw that Holyfield was able to throw some solid punches.

Holyfield is 58? not suitable.
but maybe an exhibition fight. although old already still is a very experienced boxer, he could last 12 rounds against Silva who is not very much trained to last 10-12 rounds. Belfort will be happy to fight him, that guy needs to get even from his loss against Silva.









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September 12, 2021, 01:27:51 PM
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Silva found a new career in boxing at least in this sport his leg isn't going to abused as a target for his weakness. looks like an easy win for him.
He was not quick, he just find a good counter and that hurt Ortiz.
I don't know what came into the mind of Ortiz on why he was so aggressive, he could have use his speed as he has a better leg.

How about the fight between Evander Holyfield and Vitor Belfort? I guess Vitor Belfort use his advantage which is being a younger fighter than Holyfield which is already 58 years old. I thought they'll play it soft, but Belfort was really going for a kill and I never saw that Holyfield was able to throw some solid punches.

Holyfield although old already still is a very experienced boxer, he could last 12 rounds against Silva who is not very much trained to last 10-12 rounds. Belfort will be happy to fight him, that guy needs to get even from his loss against Silva.

Did Holyfield fight already an exhibition match like this before?
I think he is not in shape in his fight today, he was easily KO and I can understand because he is already old while his opponent is only 44 years. that's 12 years age gap.

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September 12, 2021, 01:47:58 PM
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As expected Anderson Silva won the fight with ease, i thought Anderson Silva will toy around for some rounds against Tito Ortiz but he wanted to go home earlier and Tito Ortiz kissed the canvas and slept for a while and hopefully this will be his only fight and he should not come out and box ever again Cheesy.

I am sad to see Evander Holyfield coming out to fight at 58 years of age and getting knocked out by Vitor Belfort, age is a huge factor as the reflexes are not like they used to be and it was a fight that could be avoided.
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Did Holyfield fight already an exhibition match like this before?
I think he is not in shape in his fight today, he was easily KO and I can understand because he is already old while his opponent is only 44 years. that's 12 years age gap.


Holyfield is complaining of the premature stoppage but I agree with the referee that the fight should be stopped he is taking a beating and we don't know how will his body react to that kind of beating at that age after the fight, he is slow and his reaction to the punches is not good, DeLa Hoya should think twice of fighting again after the Holyfield outcome, Tyson and Roy Jones are two exceptions of old fighters coming back, they are well trained.


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Well, I was wrong about this being a glorified sparing match, but was right about it being a dipropotional advantage to Silva. It was sad to be honest, those two had no reason to be matched up together. I can't say much about Tito, it now seems he's delusional to think he could win and if he was in it only for money he had to give a chunk of his earnings to Silva because he missed weight. Way to go Tito, not the smartes one out there.
I don't think there was a "disproportional" advantage for Anderson Silva, otherwise odds from bookmakers wouldn't have been those ones and they would certainly haven't even listed the fight. You should respect a little bit more Tito Ortiz I think, he's not a newbie, every champion can lose at the first round of a fight, because there is always the uncertainty to get KO in this kind of sports.

The fight is available on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wttXqjlvIU

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Well, I was wrong about this being a glorified sparing match, but was right about it being a dipropotional advantage to Silva. It was sad to be honest, those two had no reason to be matched up together. I can't say much about Tito, it now seems he's delusional to think he could win and if he was in it only for money he had to give a chunk of his earnings to Silva because he missed weight. Way to go Tito, not the smartes one out there.
I don't think there was a "disproportional" advantage to Anderson Silva, otherwise odds from bookmakers wouldn't have been those ones and they would certainly not even list the fight. You should respect a little bit more Tito Ortiz I think, he's not a newbie, every champion can lose at the first round of a fight, because there is always uncertainty to get KO.

The fight is available on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wttXqjlvIU

Thanks for sharing the link, I didn't watch the fight but I was hoping that it will have some good action but watching he video

It's sad to say that there's nothing much from this fight and the other one between Evander and Vitor.

Silva managed to land a solid paunch while Ortiz is trying to corner him, not sure with that strategy
from Ortiz camp, knowing that Silva have that good reflexes he can managed to cover and avoid
those punches from Ortiz.




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Well, I was wrong about this being a glorified sparing match, but was right about it being a dipropotional advantage to Silva. It was sad to be honest, those two had no reason to be matched up together. I can't say much about Tito, it now seems he's delusional to think he could win and if he was in it only for money he had to give a chunk of his earnings to Silva because he missed weight. Way to go Tito, not the smartes one out there.
I don't think there was a "disproportional" advantage to Anderson Silva, otherwise odds from bookmakers wouldn't have been those ones and they would certainly not even list the fight. You should respect a little bit more Tito Ortiz I think, he's not a newbie, every champion can lose at the first round of a fight, because there is always uncertainty to get KO.

The fight is available on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wttXqjlvIU
Thanks for sharing the link, I didn't watch the fight but I was hoping that it will have some good action but watching he video

It's sad to say that there's nothing much from this fight and the other one between Evander and Vitor.

Silva managed to land a solid paunch while Ortiz is trying to corner him, not sure with that strategy
from Ortiz camp, knowing that Silva have that good reflexes he can managed to cover and avoid
those punches from Ortiz.
You're welcome carlisle1 I hope you've enjoyed the fight Wink
but I don't understand why so few people are posting those kind of links here.  Huh They seem to not care about making interesting and useful posts  Undecided  Actually I suspect some of them of trying to prevent people from commenting but I don't understand why they want to do that.
I haven't been impressed by Anderson Silva in this video, I don't know if it was his game plan but Tito Ortiz easily cornered him and put him in the ropes several times.

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Holyfield is complaining of the premature stoppage but I agree with the referee that the fight should be stopped he is taking a beating and we don't know how will his body react to that kind of beating at that age after the fight, he is slow and his reaction to the punches is not good, DeLa Hoya should think twice of fighting again after the Holyfield outcome, Tyson and Roy Jones are two exceptions of old fighters coming back, they are well trained.

There's nothing special unless if that heavy punch that Holyfield thrown got connected, imagine how heavy that was causing him to almost went out of the ring.

The decision of the ref is valid, even Holyfield is trying to cover his face, those heavy punches coming from Belfort might create damages to his body and it's much better since there's also possibilities that Belfort may connect to his head and that might leave him to a comma.
He's already 58 and fighting against a 44 years old champ, oh common Grin



by the way, with Ortiz,.

Did you notice how he throw those punches?  Roll Eyes Tongue I don't want to think it but the way I saw this fight it's more on a script
but not being act graciously!

Sorry, but it's on my two cents!  Wink :


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September 12, 2021, 06:26:06 PM
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by the way, with Ortiz,.
Did you notice how he throw those punches?  Roll Eyes Tongue I don't want to think it but the way I saw this fight it's more on a script
but not being act graciously!
Sorry, but it's on my two cents!  Wink :

Ortiz was never a hard puncher. Anderson needed only one chance to put an end to the fight and make 2-0 in this year. I felt that Ortiz was overwhelmed by Anderson though Silva was not that aggressive in the first, but he did well eventually.

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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.

I completely agree and am 100% sure this fight is not fixed. What gives people the idea that TITO had any chance in thr fight if Anderson turns up game-ready, and he surely did. It was not a matter of 'IF' Tito will lose but 'HOW' Tito will lose. This was clean, well-executed, and Anderson's bread and butter. Tito is not on his boxing level and that's the end of the story.

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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.
I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.
I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.
I completely agree and am 100% sure this fight is not fixed. What gives people the idea that TITO had any chance in thr fight if Anderson turns up game-ready, and he surely did. It was not a matter of 'IF' Tito will lose but 'HOW' Tito will lose. This was clean, well-executed, and Anderson's bread and butter. Tito is not on his boxing level and that's the end of the story.

It was indeed an unfair match-up. Ortiz got outperformed by silva in every aspect. It was a hugely one-sided show. Don't know what Tito said before the match, but the result was an inevitable one. Congrats to Silva though for winning.



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September 12, 2021, 06:38:01 PM
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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.
I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.
I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.
I completely agree and am 100% sure this fight is not fixed. What gives people the idea that TITO had any chance in thr fight if Anderson turns up game-ready, and he surely did. It was not a matter of 'IF' Tito will lose but 'HOW' Tito will lose. This was clean, well-executed, and Anderson's bread and butter. Tito is not on his boxing level and that's the end of the story.

It was indeed an unfair match-up. Ortiz got outperformed by silva in every aspect. It was a hugely one-sided show. Don't know what Tito said before the match, but the result was an inevitable one. Congrats to Silva though for winning.

I do agree that Silva has really the advantage on this match. And the question prior to this fight is how or what round this will finished. And unfortunately, it was very early. This was a mismatch, the reason why some spectators are thinking that it was fixed. But I think, it is not. The boxing association should stop staging exhibition fights because just like Holyfield's case, he didn't have the reason to go inside the ring again. They may be arranging this kind of fight for money but it is ruining the boxing sports. Just my opinion though.
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Holyfield is complaining of the premature stoppage but I agree with the referee that the fight should be stopped he is taking a beating and we don't know how will his body react to that kind of beating at that age after the fight, he is slow and his reaction to the punches is not good, DeLa Hoya should think twice of fighting again after the Holyfield outcome, Tyson and Roy Jones are two exceptions of old fighters coming back, they are well trained.
I did not like the fight, i knew Evander Holyfield would struggle as he is coming back to competitive fights after a very long time and he is 58 years old and we cannot expect him to do better. I do not complaint about the stoppage as Evander Holyfield cannot take too much punishment at this age and i would say it is a good stoppage considering his age.

The main event was not a surprise either, Tito is not a boxer and he got what he asked for  Cheesy.
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Ortiz was face first to the floor after shot by Anderson Silva but it was predictable and only judges could screw this up, but now he is calling a fight with Logan Paul next, that means he needs more money  Roll Eyes
I didn't watch Holyfield fight because I knew it's going to be boring circus show that will be soon forgotten by everyone, Belfort is 14 years younger guy.

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Ortiz was face first to the floor after shot by Anderson Silva but it was predictable and only judges could screw this up, but now he is calling a fight with Logan Paul next, that means he needs more money  Roll Eyes



Everyone needs money, the fact that they are into exhibition fight, they definitely need it. Why not challenge Jake Paul instead, I'm sure even Jake Paul would take the fight, and I think it will be another win by Jake Paul and we might see a worst KO than what he suffered against  Anderson Silva.

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I didn't watch Holyfield fight because I knew it's going to be boring circus show that will be soon forgotten by everyone, Belfort is 14 years younger guy.
I just trust Holyfield by his name, in this fight, age really matter and that has was the weakness we saw.
Nice win by Belfort, he should fight more.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

Actually Tito Ortiz had a brief pro wrestling career in TNA Wrestling. If anybody would throw a fight for money it is him and he would even know how to make it look convincing.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

He really waited for it he waited for Ortiz to relax his defense experienced boxers are not in a hurry to knock out his opponent he will wait for the right time to pull it off, and Silva has done just that, Silva is an intelligent fighter he moves around bait Ortiz and waits for the opening.
Ortiz has a bad paced this is boxing they are fighting 8 rounds he should pace himself but he prefers to attack, it's very amateurish for Ortiz.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.
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As I was hoping for, the match ended with an early knockout, BUT not with a KO I expected. I placed my bets on Tito, hoping to win with 7.84 and 6.43 multipliers on two different sites, and I lost all of them. Well, I knew my chances were on the low side. At least I tried.

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Did you notice how he throw those punches?  Roll Eyes Tongue I don't want to think it but the way I saw this fight it's more on a script
but not being act graciously!

Sorry, but it's on my two cents!  Wink :

That was my impression too. To me it looked like a scripted show: at fist it looked like Ortiz was going to win, with all that cornering and stuff, and then BOOM - he's out.

But maybe it's just one of those cases: if I'd won my bet - the game was fair, if I lost - the game was rigged.  Smiley

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As I was hoping for, the match ended with an early knockout, BUT not with a KO I expected.

I was wondering what's the betting odds for Silva KO's win in round 1? I'm sure it's bigger than x10 because we don't usually see this kind of early knockout in a fight where fighters have already aged, I was shocked by the outcome of the 2 fights, but it is what it is, maybe next time we'll be lucky.

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September 13, 2021, 08:20:01 AM
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Did Holyfield fight already an exhibition match like this before?
I think he is not in shape in his fight today

Not in shape today? Holyfield is just old. And that does not look like an exhibition fight. Belfort was fighting real. But imho, exhibition fight is not the fight when you try to kill your opponent. Anyway, this fight was a proof that younger fighters wins older fighter. Nothing much to see.

Not surprised that Silva won. Like I've said, Ortiz is far from fighting right now. One hook and that is it. Easy.

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And that does not look like an exhibition fight. Belfort was fighting real. But imho, exhibition fight is not the fight when you try to kill your opponent.

Belfort vs Dela Hoya match was switched from exhibition match to professional match. Winning or losing will be part of their respective records.

Therefore, Belfort's training was for a professional match. Since there's only a few days left before the fight and Dela Hoya contracted the virus, he's not able to fight now and Holyfield replaced him. And now at the date of the fight, the supposed professional boxing now turned into an exhibition but Belfort didn't hold back as he already spend time training to fight professionally.
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I just hope that good old grandpa Evander Holyfield earner well in this fight and he in his 58 wont hit that "boxing vs retired MMA" or "exhibition fight" or "boxing fight among old stars" mania.

Belfort was loaded for this fight and dropped good bombs. I'm glad that ref was smart and experienced enough to stop this fight before KO.

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I just hope that good old grandpa Evander Holyfield earner well in this fight and he in his 58 wont hit that "boxing vs retired MMA" or "exhibition fight" or "boxing fight among old stars" mania.

Belfort was loaded for this fight and dropped good bombs. I'm glad that ref was smart and experienced enough to stop this fight before KO.

After what happened, I think he will think twice if he will ever fight again. He got KO in round 1 only, there's no excitement in his next fight as we all see that a 58-year-old man cannot fight anymore, even though he is very popular before but when someone gets old, things really changed.

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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

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September 13, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

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This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Well well... what none of us expected ended up happening.
I thought Spider would lose badly, maybe even by knockout.
And you thought that knockout wouldn't happen, much less in the first round.
And look... Ortiz kissed the ground in the first round.
Impressive!

I won the bet, because even though I anticipated the worst, I had hope for him.
But who would bet on a first-round knockout?

It's possible that I take a liking to boxing, better stop here.

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September 13, 2021, 01:43:26 PM
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I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Exhibition matches will kill the real boxing industry. It's ok before but everyone is now up to it and that sucks. Other real boxers are not even happy with that. Don't tell me you like the next possible fight between Anderson Silva and Jake Paul? That was crazy to watch after that recent event of the latter.

Back to Silva vs Ortiz, I'm also one of those who got surprised. I see Ortiz might lose but not via Technical Knock Out on the starting round. After all, that was the fans wanted to see, a Knock Out win.

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September 13, 2021, 05:38:15 PM
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!
I am not so sure I agree with this, exhibition fights were fine when everything was closed down and we were in a lockdown and people were looking for any form of entertainment and we found in exhibition fights a way to deal with the fact most professional sports leagues and individual events were canceled, but now that the world of sports has comeback in full force I do not think we need something like this anymore at all.

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September 13, 2021, 06:50:22 PM
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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.
That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.
You could punch a person a million times and not knock them out, or you could punch just once and knock them out cold, or hell if wrongly punched in other circumstances even maybe kill them, many people died from getting punched before. So, boxing is a very risky but also lucky sport, you are putting your life into danger by going out all the time, but since these are professional fighters they know what is what and glove severely drops the death rate by a million.

Yet in no way or shape, just because there was an opening and Silva managed to hit a counter punch, doesn't mean that it would become a knock out punch each time, replicate that a thousand times and maybe 10-20% of that becomes a KO, normally boxers get punched like that all the time and move like nothing happened. So that punch was definitely a bit lucky, of course it was calculated punch that is 100% expected to connect, but it could have just hurt and move on, that KO impact of it was the lucky part.

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September 13, 2021, 07:47:04 PM
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This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.
Well well... what none of us expected ended up happening.
I thought Spider would lose badly, maybe even by knockout.
And you thought that knockout wouldn't happen, much less in the first round.
And look... Ortiz kissed the ground in the first round.
Impressive!
I won the bet, because even though I anticipated the worst, I had hope for him.
But who would bet on a first-round knockout?
It's possible that I take a liking to boxing, better stop here.

Well, knockouts are part of the game my friend. And if I was a boxer, and I had the option to do so, I would knock out my opponent to dominate the match and my opponent. It creates an insane amount of adrenaline rush. And first found knockouts are quite hard to bet on. And I never thought that Silva would lose this match, he had the upper hand. Which he eventually showed by making Tito fall face first in the ground in round 1.

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September 13, 2021, 07:52:31 PM
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.
But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!
Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

The fight kind of ended before it even started Huh. As Tito approached Silva and was trying to land some punches but Silva those seemed very slow for Silva and he landed a huge right hand which hurt Tito very bad and Silva ended the fight with a jolting left hand. I don't know but, these kinds of unfair matches should not be happening in my opinion.



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I was so surprised by the result of this fight with Anderson Silva winning at first round in 1 minute and 21 seconds. Now I understand what he did. Days before the fight he said to the media he would dodge and resist maximum as possible along the rounds and that is exactly what Tito Ortiz thought it was going to happen, so he went full attack mode since the beginning. Probably in his mind he imagined he could control the fight's rhythm this way.

However, what he didn't know is that Silva was bluffing and when Ortiz least expected, the game turned 180º. He was surprised by a sudden change in his opponent's strategy that knocked him out instantly without giving him any recovery chance. Maybe if he were more strategical and didn't rush like that the fight would have lasted longer.

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September 13, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
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I was so surprised by the result of this fight with Anderson Silva winning at first round in 1 minute and 21 seconds. Now I understand what he did. Days before the fight he said to the media he would dodge and resist maximum as possible along the rounds and that is exactly what Tito Ortiz thought it was going to happen, so he went full attack mode since the beginning. Probably in his mind he imagined he could control the fight's rhythm this way.

However, what he didn't know is that Silva was bluffing and when Ortiz least expected, the game turned 180º. He was surprised by a sudden change in his opponent's strategy that knocked him out instantly without giving him any recovery chance. Maybe if he were more strategical and didn't rush like that the fight would have lasted longer.

Anderson Silva did what he said, he was being attacked by Ortiz aggressively and he was just counter-punching, unfortunately, Ortiz's boxing skills was way inferior to Silva and he got caught up with a solid punch. Maybe it's just a mind game and Silva being a warrior knows what he is doing, and Tito Ortiz just takes the bait, I wonder if he will challenge Silva for a rematch.

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I was wondering what's the betting odds for Silva KO's win in round 1? I'm sure it's bigger than x10 because we don't usually see this kind of early knockout in a fight where fighters have already aged, I was shocked by the outcome of the 2 fights, but it is what it is, maybe next time we'll be lucky.
Anderson Silva is a legit boxer and it was not a huge surprise that he could stop Tito Ortiz in one round as everyone who knew these fighters knows their skill level and the odds were not that high as you claim. I am not shocked at the outcome because Vitor Belfort always started fast and he always rushes and that is what got him the win as you cannot expect a 58 year old Evander Holyfield to be fast.
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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.
But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!
Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

The fight kind of ended before it even started Huh. As Tito approached Silva and was trying to land some punches but Silva those seemed very slow for Silva and he landed a huge right hand which hurt Tito very bad and Silva ended the fight with a jolting left hand. I don't know but, these kinds of unfair matches should not be happening in my opinion.

Both of them are slow, but Tito's punches can be seen by Anderson, that's why he has dodge it and he know's that he can still be hurt by those punches even if it is not that strong, so he just go with the motions to duck at least. As as I have said, the punch from Tito is very predictable, and in boxing if you do that your opponent can read you and be ready for a counter and that's why happen here. He was caught with a big punch from Silva, yeah you can call it unfair because Tito has no experienced in boxing.

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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!

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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!

Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Although post fight interview says he is unsure of his future, but definitely I'm speculating that he will have another boxing fight. Names like Jake Paul or even Roy Jones Jr.

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Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Agree. He didn't stopped training and has a regular activity of it. Not just to prepare for a fight but part of his maintaining his physical activity.

And the advantage of it was, he is always well-prepared now that he is consider to participate in an exhibition match to make money out of retirement. Smiley
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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.


Hehehe I was only joking and being sarcastic. It has also showed that Tito Ortiz might not have trained very well for the fight. It was only an exhibition match and the result will not be recorded. He only wanted to go in the ring, collect his money and go home to his girlfriend hehehe.

Also, it appears Anderson wants more money hehehe.



Speaking at the Triller post-fight press conference, Anderson Silva expressed interest in fighting the Paul brothers, as he respects the way they conduct business.

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Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Agree. He didn't stopped training and has a regular activity of it. Not just to prepare for a fight but part of his maintaining his physical activity.

And the advantage of it was, he is always well-prepared now that he is consider to participate in an exhibition match to make money out of retirement. Smiley

Yeah, and that's what separates elite athletes is that after they retire, they were able to maintain their body and overall health, unlike others who gain so much weight (although it comes with age).

@bbc.reporter - "just the follow the money", so right now the cash cow in exhibitions matches are Floyd and the Paul brothers, so maybe we can see Silva fighting either of the two for bigger pay check.

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September 14, 2021, 11:24:09 AM
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@bbc.reporter - "just the follow the money", so right now the cash cow in exhibitions matches are Floyd and the Paul brothers, so maybe we can see Silva fighting either of the two for bigger pay check.

I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed.  If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.


Hehehe I was only joking and being sarcastic. It has also showed that Tito Ortiz might not have trained very well for the fight. It was only an exhibition match and the result will not be recorded. He only wanted to go in the ring, collect his money and go home to his girlfriend hehehe.
How do you know that? Did you read that somewhere? Would you say the same thing if Tito Ortiz had won? I'm not sure about that. Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.  

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I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed.  If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.

No, I don't think so I don't think any of Paul will fight Silva, Silva is the real deal and he fights like a real professional boxer, Jake Paul can only fight Amateur fighters or retired fighters, Silva will humiliate him, hurt him and knock him out and that will end his career in exhibition boxing, he will shy or ignore an invitation to fight Silva because he knows what's going to happen to his career, and on fighting Mayweather, there's a possibility as long as the price is right for Mayweather.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.


Hehehe I was only joking and being sarcastic. It has also showed that Tito Ortiz might not have trained very well for the fight. It was only an exhibition match and the result will not be recorded. He only wanted to go in the ring, collect his money and go home to his girlfriend hehehe.
How do you know that? Did you read that somewhere? Would you say the same thing if Tito Ortiz had won? I'm not sure about that. Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.  

Exactly! Some people on here came into this thinking there was a 50-50 chance between the both of them, but those people seemed to have never watched one fight of either of them. Silva did what he does the best and executed everything perfectly. Good on him because his fight against Julio César Chávez was a rear good Boxing fight.

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September 14, 2021, 08:23:41 PM
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I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Exhibition matches will kill the real boxing industry. It's ok before but everyone is now up to it and that sucks. Other real boxers are not even happy with that. Don't tell me you like the next possible fight between Anderson Silva and Jake Paul? That was crazy to watch after that recent event of the latter.

Back to Silva vs Ortiz, I'm also one of those who got surprised. I see Ortiz might lose but not via Technical Knock Out on the starting round. After all, that was the fans wanted to see, a Knock Out win.

You are right, when they are fights for exhibition it does not give the same emotion, I honestly was not surprised that Silva won by KO, seeing the fighting style with his technique was much superior, however I did not see that Ortiz was very fit, either. Sometimes the athletes do not have their day, sometimes they wake up without so much strength, without so much desire and I think Ortiz went to that fight more because of commitment and pressure than because of preparation, although his preparation was good, he was not at the level, so it was demonstrated in the ring.

I hope that Ortiz has gotten a good learning and can recover emotionally, the fact of losing by K.O is something very difficult for any fighter.

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September 14, 2021, 08:47:30 PM
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I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Exhibition matches will kill the real boxing industry. It's ok before but everyone is now up to it and that sucks. Other real boxers are not even happy with that. Don't tell me you like the next possible fight between Anderson Silva and Jake Paul? That was crazy to watch after that recent event of the latter.

Back to Silva vs Ortiz, I'm also one of those who got surprised. I see Ortiz might lose but not via Technical Knock Out on the starting round. After all, that was the fans wanted to see, a Knock Out win.

You are right, when they are fights for exhibition it does not give the same emotion, I honestly was not surprised that Silva won by KO, seeing the fighting style with his technique was much superior, however I did not see that Ortiz was very fit, either. Sometimes the athletes do not have their day, sometimes they wake up without so much strength, without so much desire and I think Ortiz went to that fight more because of commitment and pressure than because of preparation, although his preparation was good, he was not at the level, so it was demonstrated in the ring.

I hope that Ortiz has gotten a good learning and can recover emotionally, the fact of losing by K.O is something very difficult for any fighter.


I was more surprised that Ortiz thought he could KO Silva easily, in the first round he was already very aggressive like he was trying to finish the fight early, because of that, he lose his defense and he was not able to see the counter of Silva which hurt him and put him asleep. Hopefully, he will learn from that, and if he will ever fight again, he should be more careful, it's always good to make money while keeping yourself safe regardless of the outcome.

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September 14, 2021, 10:03:00 PM
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I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed.  If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.
You cannot count down the earning power of Floyd Mayweather, whenever he fights he is able to attract huge crowds and thereby huge money and he is not even in their weight class to fight Anderson Silva or Vitor Belfort. Recently Vitor Belfort challenged Jake Paul for a fight and i am sure it can be a huge fight but there is no positive response from Jake Paul as he shrugged off his challenge.
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This victory means a lot to Silva, because it is the second victory since switching careers from UFC to Boxing, actually I really hope the fight will last a few rounds to see the resilience of the two former UFC in the ring, but Ortiz's appearance started aggressively attacking silva from the first second, apparently backfired on himself because he was engrossed in attacking and reckless, only to be hit by a strong right hook from silva to make ortiz stagger before silva finally finished off Ortiz in the first round.

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I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed.  If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.

No, I don't think so I don't think any of Paul will fight Silva, Silva is the real deal and he fights like a real professional boxer, Jake Paul can only fight Amateur fighters or retired fighters, Silva will humiliate him, hurt him and knock him out and that will end his career in exhibition boxing, he will shy or ignore an invitation to fight Silva because he knows what's going to happen to his career, and on fighting Mayweather, there's a possibility as long as the price is right for Mayweather.

I also don't think that Mayweather will be viable for Silva as this point.

Would rather see him Jake Paul, wonder though how will this fight going to be promoted by Jake Paul since he also pull some pranks and of course talk trash. As we all know that Silva native language is Brazilian and maybe there could be some gap in trash talk, Lol. In any case, for sure Silva will love to continue to have career after his MMA years, and boxing is giving him some good money too.

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~ Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.  

Silva 's victory was well deserved, no doubt about that, but still to me it didn't look like Tito was going to fight to death, you know. After receiving the very first good punch from Silva, he decided to give up, and what he was doing during the following seconds - he was trying to avoid getting more punches before reaching the floor. I lost my bet, but I don't blame him. No need to be getting hurt more when you know you are doomed. The guy's 46 after all, and his kids need him.

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~ Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.  

Silva 's victory was well deserved, no doubt about that, but still to me it didn't look like Tito was going to fight to death, you know. After receiving the very first good punch from Silva, he decided to give up, and what he was doing during the following seconds - he was trying to avoid getting more punches before reaching the floor. I lost my bet, but I don't blame him. No need to be getting hurt more when you know you are doomed. The guy's 46 after all, and his kids need him.

I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.
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I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.

That observation is true. Silva allows Ortiz to keep throwing punches and test some of those and after realizing that, it won't hurt him much
he starts to give some jabs, Ortiz strategy is not appropriate since Silva is more quicker than him, he over spends his energy by throwing useless punches.

When Silva sees the opportunities to throw the big blow, we see what happened next, it's just need two solid punches to put Ortiz
down and finished the match.

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I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.

That observation is true. Silva allows Ortiz to keep throwing punches and test some of those and after realizing that, it won't hurt him much
he starts to give some jabs, Ortiz strategy is not appropriate since Silva is more quicker than him, he over spends his energy by throwing useless punches.

When Silva sees the opportunities to throw the big blow, we see what happened next, it's just need two solid punches to put Ortiz
down and finished the match.


And notice we can really see the difference between the two fighters the experience of Anderson Silva in boxing is really greater than Tito Ortiz he can see Ortiz movement as clear as day, and I am adding that as I was watching I can really see the vintage Silva on the action,

I think Anderson Silva has the potential to really keep on with boxing if not with Champion boxers but with experience boxers he can surely compete with them, and I want to see Silva do that.
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I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.

That observation is true. Silva allows Ortiz to keep throwing punches and test some of those and after realizing that, it won't hurt him much
he starts to give some jabs, Ortiz strategy is not appropriate since Silva is more quicker than him, he over spends his energy by throwing useless punches.

When Silva sees the opportunities to throw the big blow, we see what happened next, it's just need two solid punches to put Ortiz
down and finished the match.


And notice we can really see the difference between the two fighters the experience of Anderson Silva in boxing is really greater than Tito Ortiz he can see Ortiz movement as clear as day, and I am adding that as I was watching I can really see the vintage Silva on the action,

I think Anderson Silva has the potential to really keep on with boxing if not with Champion boxers but with experience boxers he can surely compete with them, and I want to see Silva do that.

People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

That fight is over, we saw what we need to see. Question is, will he still continue to fight, who will be his next opponent?

I'm thinking maybe either of the Paul Brothers could face him, but hopefully, the one who has a better record and that was Jake Paul, was there a rumor regarding the possibility? or it's just me thinking nonsense?

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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

That fight is over, we saw what we need to see. Question is, will he still continue to fight, who will be his next opponent?

I'm thinking maybe either of the Paul Brothers could face him, but hopefully, the one who has a better record and that was Jake Paul, was there a rumor regarding the possibility? or it's just me thinking nonsense?

Hahaha Grin, let's join hands and call for it! Grin but very possible to bring Jake Paul's attention since he always wants attentions and especially more cash cows inside this ring. Who knows? That he's already thinking about it and promoters are just waiting for some hypes to start the fire.

Personally, I would like to see Paul against Silva, last fight of Paul already exposed him and with Silva's skills it won't be hard for him to observe on how he will take Paul down.

Since it's no longer impossible dealing this kind of fight, just a hype from social media and the next thing you know it's been settled. Roll Eyes

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September 16, 2021, 09:15:19 PM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

That fight is over, we saw what we need to see. Question is, will he still continue to fight, who will be his next opponent?

I'm thinking maybe either of the Paul Brothers could face him, but hopefully, the one who has a better record and that was Jake Paul, was there a rumor regarding the possibility? or it's just me thinking nonsense?

Hahaha Grin, let's join hands and call for it! Grin but very possible to bring Jake Paul's attention since he always wants attentions and especially more cash cows inside this ring. Who knows? That he's already thinking about it and promoters are just waiting for some hypes to start the fire.

Personally, I would like to see Paul against Silva, last fight of Paul already exposed him and with Silva's skills it won't be hard for him to observe on how he will take Paul down.

Since it's no longer impossible dealing this kind of fight, just a hype from social media and the next thing you know it's been settled. Roll Eyes


It would definitely gain more attention compared to his previous fights, Jake Paul should be the one reaching Silva here as for sure he will get the bigger slice of the pie. I like to expect that it will be the most exciting fight of Logan, and I think it's unlikely that he would KO Silva which is an experience higher and a good boxer as well.

Silva is 46 years old, Jake still has the edge as he is still young.

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September 16, 2021, 09:36:54 PM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

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September 17, 2021, 09:19:49 PM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

They are the start, but actually, there's more exhibition fights of Floyd before that, Floyd fought Conor which was able to give him a lot of money, easy as that and I think that has become an inspiration to some fighters thinking they can at least get a certain percentage of the potential they can make in an exhibition match.

IMO, the biggest earning of Floyd in a single fight is achieved in an exhibition match.

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September 17, 2021, 09:40:17 PM
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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!
What happens is that as people age they begin to lose skills especially when it comes to something as competitive as professional sports, however a skill that is invisible but that is incredibly useful for a fighter is to be able to endure the punishment, many people can be trained to learn how to deliver a very strong punch but it is a completely different matter to learn how to resist those punches, it seems to me that Ortiz lost that ability long ago and it is why the outcome was decided so quickly.

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September 17, 2021, 11:14:06 PM
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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!
What happens is that as people age they begin to lose skills especially when it comes to something as competitive as professional sports, however a skill that is invisible but that is incredibly useful for a fighter is to be able to endure the punishment, many people can be trained to learn how to deliver a very strong punch but it is a completely different matter to learn how to resist those punches, it seems to me that Ortiz lost that ability long ago and it is why the outcome was decided so quickly.

Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.

But even with that output, both successfully bags a good profit on just a small time exposure.

Exhibition matches is really a great money making scheme nowadays for some boxers, retired or not.
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September 17, 2021, 11:53:58 PM
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Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.
So we will go with "What if" he didn't push that first round attack, and allow Silva to work more harder and the one who attack more so Ortiz able to conserve his energy?

I don't see any changes with the result, with the way we've seen Ortiz there's no chance he will beat Silva from his form, the only thing that will benefits are the fans who look for much longer fight and a good counter punhing between this two fighters.
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But even with that output, both successfully bags a good profit on just a small time exposure.
Indeed, a boring fight that brings them easy cut from all the viewers money.

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Exhibition matches is really a great money making scheme nowadays for some boxers, retired or not.
You said it right, and more to expect since it's still been entertained by fans who are willing to pay for the tickets, and gamblers
who are willing to bet from this kind of matches.

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September 18, 2021, 01:06:20 AM
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Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.
No, it will become worst if Ortiz didn't make opening for Silva because Silva will make opening for Ortiz he only need 3 punch to knocked out Ortiz Grin That's not the problem, Ortiz doesn't have power to punch Silva and he also doesn't have tough chin to take damage from Silva, as been said he's lost in every aspects. 

Anderson silva is a great  fighter he can adjust  his strategy in different opponents. His stamina can survive on a heavy punches.  So in this case I'll choose Silva will win in this Match.
But not just easy because we all know that ortiz is A great fighter also and for sure he had prapare a strategic moves against silva .
Lol, do you really busy and can't even read the date on the title?

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Now Silva is on a hunt for a new opponent, he is striking the iron while it's hot

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Silva has been connected to a number of potential opponents, including the Paul brothers. But as far as Silva’s coach Dorea goes, the fight to make isn’t Silva vs. Paul, but instead, the fight to make is Silva vs. Mayweather

I don't know if Mayweather will agree to a fight I read in one article that his last fight with Paul is his last exhibition fight and he will retire for good, but if the price is good the Moneyman can come out of retirement and fight Silva, this is a making of great fights two legendary warriors in their respective field in one ring.

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September 18, 2021, 06:39:26 AM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

Well we hated Mayweather for making exhibition fights, and we all know that he longer plays for his legacy but for the money.

And now others like Silva has saw the blue print, follow it, make some money in the current "norm". I guess we have to take it. Maybe history will be the one to decide for them.

So for sure Silva will fight next, just a matter of time who will be his next opponent that will bring more money in the table and create more hype, Floyd or the Paul brothers.

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Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.
No, it will become worst if Ortiz didn't make opening for Silva because Silva will make opening for Ortiz he only need 3 punch to knocked out Ortiz Grin That's not the problem, Ortiz doesn't have power to punch Silva and he also doesn't have tough chin to take damage from Silva, as been said he's lost in every aspects. 

Anderson silva is a great  fighter he can adjust  his strategy in different opponents. His stamina can survive on a heavy punches.  So in this case I'll choose Silva will win in this Match.
But not just easy because we all know that ortiz is A great fighter also and for sure he had prapare a strategic moves against silva .
Lol, do you really busy and can't even read the date on the title?

Regardless and either way, Silva will still find a way to knock Ortiz on few punches. It's just become quick before of that opening made by Ortiz.

Although I like the match to end up on more rounds, I think people got what they want. Paying money for a knockout rather than see a match ending up in a decision which is the expectation of others because that's an exhibition match in the first place.

Maybe it's time now to close the thread and let's wait for Silva's next opponent.
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September 18, 2021, 08:13:01 AM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

Well we hated Mayweather for making exhibition fights, and we all know that he longer plays for his legacy but for the money.

And now others like Silva has saw the blue print, follow it, make some money in the current "norm". I guess we have to take it. Maybe history will be the one to decide for them.

So for sure Silva will fight next, just a matter of time who will be his next opponent that will bring more money in the table and create more hype, Floyd or the Paul brothers.

Since the match between Silva and Ortiz just takes a single round, the former can fight right away as his preparations don't really use in that match.

Less sweat, no blood, and no physical damage. Right after the fight, there was a rumor that Silva is now again under negotiation that quick regarding his next match. The name was not disclosed on who will be his next opponent in the hype exhibition match.

For sure whoever the opponent, a big money is expected to take home again by Silva.

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September 18, 2021, 08:25:44 AM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

Well we hated Mayweather for making exhibition fights, and we all know that he longer plays for his legacy but for the money.

And now others like Silva has saw the blue print, follow it, make some money in the current "norm". I guess we have to take it. Maybe history will be the one to decide for them.

So for sure Silva will fight next, just a matter of time who will be his next opponent that will bring more money in the table and create more hype, Floyd or the Paul brothers.

Since the match between Silva and Ortiz just takes a single round, the former can fight right away as his preparations don't really use in that match.

Less sweat, no blood, and no physical damage. Right after the fight, there was a rumor that Silva is now again under negotiation that quick regarding his next match. The name was not disclosed on who will be his next opponent in the hype exhibition match.

For sure whoever the opponent, a big money is expected to take home again by Silva.

Having a short fight does not wipe away all of the beatings the body takes in preparation for the fight. Usually, fight camps are those that take the most out of the fighters so taking fights right after short fights is really not something a serious fighter would do. Especially at his age, he should take his time, have some rest and do a proper fight camp. 

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September 18, 2021, 08:44:45 AM
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Having a short fight does not wipe away all of the beatings the body takes in preparation for the fight. Usually, fight camps are those that take the most out of the fighters so taking fights right after short fights is really not something a serious fighter would do. Especially at his age, he should take his time, have some rest and do a proper fight camp.  

I was going to say the same thing. I don't expect a lot of fights with Anderson Silva in them in the future, let alone in the nearest future. He's 46, and if you ask me, it's the age more suitable for writing books than fighting on the ring.

Fun fact: apart from being a great fighter Silva's a great person too. Look what happened after the fight:

Following their fight on Saturday, both Silva and Ortiz were booked on the same flight back to Los Angeles and, according to Ortiz, there was a mix up where he and Silva were actually booked to sit next to each other in first class, leaving Ortiz’s fiancee Amber Nicole Miller without a first-class seat. Fortunately, Silva stepped up and offered his seat to Miller.

"You’re the man. Mad respect dude.”, Tito wrote on his Instagram later. That is what I call great guys. Both of them.

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September 18, 2021, 09:36:06 AM
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Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Although post fight interview says he is unsure of his future, but definitely I'm speculating that he will have another boxing fight. Names like Jake Paul or even Roy Jones Jr.
Hmm, this is interesting! I would like to watch some more Anderson Silva fights.

I know the exhibition fights "is not a very valid thing" because some players are just thinking about getting rich.

I even like to watch some exhibition fights, as I didn't have the opportunity to watch some fights in the past, I think it's interesting to watch now!
Well, now if the fighter is playing inside the ring, I believe that it loses all the sense and magic of watching a real fight.

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September 18, 2021, 09:40:54 AM
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I was going to say the same thing. I don't expect a lot of fights with Anderson Silva in them in the future, let alone in the nearest future. He's 46, and if you ask me, it's the age more suitable for writing books than fighting on the ring.



He looks great at 46 but I don't think he can beat a fighter at the top 10 of his weight category, he is good for exhibition games like a 2 minute 8 rounds fight that he did with Tito Ortiz, he is good for 2 to 4 exhibition games, then hang up his gloves or set a gym and train new fighters in MMA, he will be a great coach for MMA fighters and he can teach his own technique to new fighters I love to see him in MMA again, this time as a trainer and coach.

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September 18, 2021, 09:58:48 AM
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Is it time for this thread to be closed ? the fight had been ended more than a week now and the conversation is still running , maybe best to create another thread once the both fighter find their new opponent and the new schedule of their fight but for now this is enough .

the conversation is going nowhere about the recent fight but for the future one and this is not what this mean for the thread.

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