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September 16, 2021, 09:50:59 PM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

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September 17, 2021, 12:21:59 AM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

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September 17, 2021, 09:19:49 PM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

They are the start, but actually, there's more exhibition fights of Floyd before that, Floyd fought Conor which was able to give him a lot of money, easy as that and I think that has become an inspiration to some fighters thinking they can at least get a certain percentage of the potential they can make in an exhibition match.

IMO, the biggest earning of Floyd in a single fight is achieved in an exhibition match.

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September 17, 2021, 09:40:17 PM
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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!
What happens is that as people age they begin to lose skills especially when it comes to something as competitive as professional sports, however a skill that is invisible but that is incredibly useful for a fighter is to be able to endure the punishment, many people can be trained to learn how to deliver a very strong punch but it is a completely different matter to learn how to resist those punches, it seems to me that Ortiz lost that ability long ago and it is why the outcome was decided so quickly.

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September 17, 2021, 11:14:06 PM
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Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.
Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!
What happens is that as people age they begin to lose skills especially when it comes to something as competitive as professional sports, however a skill that is invisible but that is incredibly useful for a fighter is to be able to endure the punishment, many people can be trained to learn how to deliver a very strong punch but it is a completely different matter to learn how to resist those punches, it seems to me that Ortiz lost that ability long ago and it is why the outcome was decided so quickly.

Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.

But even with that output, both successfully bags a good profit on just a small time exposure.

Exhibition matches is really a great money making scheme nowadays for some boxers, retired or not.
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September 17, 2021, 11:53:58 PM
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Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.
So we will go with "What if" he didn't push that first round attack, and allow Silva to work more harder and the one who attack more so Ortiz able to conserve his energy?

I don't see any changes with the result, with the way we've seen Ortiz there's no chance he will beat Silva from his form, the only thing that will benefits are the fans who look for much longer fight and a good counter punhing between this two fighters.
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But even with that output, both successfully bags a good profit on just a small time exposure.
Indeed, a boring fight that brings them easy cut from all the viewers money.

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Exhibition matches is really a great money making scheme nowadays for some boxers, retired or not.
You said it right, and more to expect since it's still been entertained by fans who are willing to pay for the tickets, and gamblers
who are willing to bet from this kind of matches.

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September 18, 2021, 01:06:20 AM
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Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.
No, it will become worst if Ortiz didn't make opening for Silva because Silva will make opening for Ortiz he only need 3 punch to knocked out Ortiz Grin That's not the problem, Ortiz doesn't have power to punch Silva and he also doesn't have tough chin to take damage from Silva, as been said he's lost in every aspects. 

Anderson silva is a great  fighter he can adjust  his strategy in different opponents. His stamina can survive on a heavy punches.  So in this case I'll choose Silva will win in this Match.
But not just easy because we all know that ortiz is A great fighter also and for sure he had prapare a strategic moves against silva .
Lol, do you really busy and can't even read the date on the title?

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Now Silva is on a hunt for a new opponent, he is striking the iron while it's hot

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Silva has been connected to a number of potential opponents, including the Paul brothers. But as far as Silva’s coach Dorea goes, the fight to make isn’t Silva vs. Paul, but instead, the fight to make is Silva vs. Mayweather

I don't know if Mayweather will agree to a fight I read in one article that his last fight with Paul is his last exhibition fight and he will retire for good, but if the price is good the Moneyman can come out of retirement and fight Silva, this is a making of great fights two legendary warriors in their respective field in one ring.

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September 18, 2021, 06:39:26 AM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

Well we hated Mayweather for making exhibition fights, and we all know that he longer plays for his legacy but for the money.

And now others like Silva has saw the blue print, follow it, make some money in the current "norm". I guess we have to take it. Maybe history will be the one to decide for them.

So for sure Silva will fight next, just a matter of time who will be his next opponent that will bring more money in the table and create more hype, Floyd or the Paul brothers.

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September 18, 2021, 07:31:13 AM
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Not that Ortiz lost that skills quickly but he just didn't anticipate Silva's move. "If only" he didn't make that opening for Silva, he might make on another round.
No, it will become worst if Ortiz didn't make opening for Silva because Silva will make opening for Ortiz he only need 3 punch to knocked out Ortiz Grin That's not the problem, Ortiz doesn't have power to punch Silva and he also doesn't have tough chin to take damage from Silva, as been said he's lost in every aspects. 

Anderson silva is a great  fighter he can adjust  his strategy in different opponents. His stamina can survive on a heavy punches.  So in this case I'll choose Silva will win in this Match.
But not just easy because we all know that ortiz is A great fighter also and for sure he had prapare a strategic moves against silva .
Lol, do you really busy and can't even read the date on the title?

Regardless and either way, Silva will still find a way to knock Ortiz on few punches. It's just become quick before of that opening made by Ortiz.

Although I like the match to end up on more rounds, I think people got what they want. Paying money for a knockout rather than see a match ending up in a decision which is the expectation of others because that's an exhibition match in the first place.

Maybe it's time now to close the thread and let's wait for Silva's next opponent.
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September 18, 2021, 08:13:01 AM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

Well we hated Mayweather for making exhibition fights, and we all know that he longer plays for his legacy but for the money.

And now others like Silva has saw the blue print, follow it, make some money in the current "norm". I guess we have to take it. Maybe history will be the one to decide for them.

So for sure Silva will fight next, just a matter of time who will be his next opponent that will bring more money in the table and create more hype, Floyd or the Paul brothers.

Since the match between Silva and Ortiz just takes a single round, the former can fight right away as his preparations don't really use in that match.

Less sweat, no blood, and no physical damage. Right after the fight, there was a rumor that Silva is now again under negotiation that quick regarding his next match. The name was not disclosed on who will be his next opponent in the hype exhibition match.

For sure whoever the opponent, a big money is expected to take home again by Silva.

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September 18, 2021, 08:25:44 AM
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People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

Well, you can not have it all, brains and brawl but Anderson Silva is really gifted with both, and if someone would surely challenge him it should be like himself but that is surely difficult, but that level of thinking inside the ring is really crucial, I think if Logan Paul would have an exhibition with Anderson Silva maybe we can see a great fight regarding Silva's way of counter-attacks, and I am not really satisfied with the Logan VS Mayweather because for me that is just for show and Floyd Mayweather is not really serious on that fight, or maybe professional ones that can compete with Silva will be a great fight for him.

For me the fight between Logan and Mayweather is kinda boring, I know it's just for show but I'm hard to please, I like to see a KO just like the fight between Silva and Ortiz. Mayweather makes easy money in the fight, and he will not risk his health by going toe to toe to any fighter, he will use his skills to hit and run and to defend, that's why it's boring. Sorry, but it's just my honest opinion.

Mayweather vs Paul is a disgrace in boxing history.

That's the start of some bullshit exhibition matches.

Anderson Silva is even like to take it. Money matters than reputation during the pandemic obviously. Logan Paul is trash that's why I don't understand why others are excited if Silva will face Paul on the ring. Another quick money scheme for them. Lucky those they can lure some people to watch and paid for them.

Well we hated Mayweather for making exhibition fights, and we all know that he longer plays for his legacy but for the money.

And now others like Silva has saw the blue print, follow it, make some money in the current "norm". I guess we have to take it. Maybe history will be the one to decide for them.

So for sure Silva will fight next, just a matter of time who will be his next opponent that will bring more money in the table and create more hype, Floyd or the Paul brothers.

Since the match between Silva and Ortiz just takes a single round, the former can fight right away as his preparations don't really use in that match.

Less sweat, no blood, and no physical damage. Right after the fight, there was a rumor that Silva is now again under negotiation that quick regarding his next match. The name was not disclosed on who will be his next opponent in the hype exhibition match.

For sure whoever the opponent, a big money is expected to take home again by Silva.

Having a short fight does not wipe away all of the beatings the body takes in preparation for the fight. Usually, fight camps are those that take the most out of the fighters so taking fights right after short fights is really not something a serious fighter would do. Especially at his age, he should take his time, have some rest and do a proper fight camp. 

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Having a short fight does not wipe away all of the beatings the body takes in preparation for the fight. Usually, fight camps are those that take the most out of the fighters so taking fights right after short fights is really not something a serious fighter would do. Especially at his age, he should take his time, have some rest and do a proper fight camp.  

I was going to say the same thing. I don't expect a lot of fights with Anderson Silva in them in the future, let alone in the nearest future. He's 46, and if you ask me, it's the age more suitable for writing books than fighting on the ring.

Fun fact: apart from being a great fighter Silva's a great person too. Look what happened after the fight:

Following their fight on Saturday, both Silva and Ortiz were booked on the same flight back to Los Angeles and, according to Ortiz, there was a mix up where he and Silva were actually booked to sit next to each other in first class, leaving Ortiz’s fiancee Amber Nicole Miller without a first-class seat. Fortunately, Silva stepped up and offered his seat to Miller.

"You’re the man. Mad respect dude.”, Tito wrote on his Instagram later. That is what I call great guys. Both of them.

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September 18, 2021, 09:36:06 AM
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Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Although post fight interview says he is unsure of his future, but definitely I'm speculating that he will have another boxing fight. Names like Jake Paul or even Roy Jones Jr.
Hmm, this is interesting! I would like to watch some more Anderson Silva fights.

I know the exhibition fights "is not a very valid thing" because some players are just thinking about getting rich.

I even like to watch some exhibition fights, as I didn't have the opportunity to watch some fights in the past, I think it's interesting to watch now!
Well, now if the fighter is playing inside the ring, I believe that it loses all the sense and magic of watching a real fight.

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September 18, 2021, 09:40:54 AM
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I was going to say the same thing. I don't expect a lot of fights with Anderson Silva in them in the future, let alone in the nearest future. He's 46, and if you ask me, it's the age more suitable for writing books than fighting on the ring.



He looks great at 46 but I don't think he can beat a fighter at the top 10 of his weight category, he is good for exhibition games like a 2 minute 8 rounds fight that he did with Tito Ortiz, he is good for 2 to 4 exhibition games, then hang up his gloves or set a gym and train new fighters in MMA, he will be a great coach for MMA fighters and he can teach his own technique to new fighters I love to see him in MMA again, this time as a trainer and coach.

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Is it time for this thread to be closed ? the fight had been ended more than a week now and the conversation is still running , maybe best to create another thread once the both fighter find their new opponent and the new schedule of their fight but for now this is enough .

the conversation is going nowhere about the recent fight but for the future one and this is not what this mean for the thread.

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