Twitch introduces restrictions on gambling-related links - deadline 17 Aug

[Obito]

only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
 it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

Totally, but the problem is that the content creators that they are sponsoring will be affected albeit it could be a temporary and I think that most of them are definitely small time so it's going to hit hard for those people to have their sponsors removed from them, hopefully Twitch can find a way to make things right for this one.

[KTChampions]

On the one hand, it is good that Twitch cares about its users and tries to protect them from inappropriate content and fraud, but on the other hand, this total concern has led to the fact that streamers are afraid to say the "forbidden" word and are generally very limited in their actions. All of this reminds me of censorship. I don’t understand why adults cannot set the limits of what is acceptable for themselves and Twitch intervenes here?
As for the new rules, I do not think that they will affect the gaming industry - traffic from Twitch to gaming sites is negligible.

[Reid]

On the one hand, it is good that Twitch cares about its users and tries to protect them from inappropriate content and fraud, but on the other hand, this total concern has led to the fact that streamers are afraid to say the "forbidden" word and are generally very limited in their actions. All of this reminds me of censorship. I don’t understand why adults cannot set the limits of what is acceptable for themselves and Twitch intervenes here?
As for the new rules, I do not think that they will affect the gaming industry - traffic from Twitch to gaming sites is negligible.

Totally agree. I think it's not just for my kids but for others too, just like I said once in this thread.
Twitch as defined was a live streaming gaming platform and not for gambling platform. Perhaps they could find a way to make another website to separate it and still give chance to people who want to share their experiences live while they are gambling.

I am not against both but they have recently become one of the popular platforms ever since the gaming industry starts to explode and most of their viewers are teens. At that age, they don't like their smartphones being checked by their parents anymore.
Who will stop them? I think Twitch being this responsible is a good sign.

[dunfida]

only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
 it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

Totally, but the problem is that the content creators that they are sponsoring will be affected albeit it could be a temporary and I think that most of them are definitely small time so it's going to hit hard for those people to have their sponsors removed from them, hopefully Twitch can find a way to make things right for this one.

There might be some adjustments but i do see that they wont really be taking back decisions in regards to this.They would really imposing restrictions on things which they do saw that it could really affect their service
integrity.

If there would be some complaints about gambling related links or something like that then its just normal that even any platform will really be making appropriate action.

Its up to theirs if they would really be reverting it back or would really stick out into it and there would be those who got mainly affected.

[dothebeats]

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

[avikz]

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

I understand that! But the policy doesn't help to curb teenage gamblers here! Streamers are prohibited from sharing links of the gambling websites. But they are not banned from streaming at all. Gambling related contents can be perfectly streamed on Twitch. So I am not sure how this new policy may remove problem gambling from teenagers!

This new policy will just bring down the affiliate income of the streamers to zero and that's it! Pretty stupid step it seems!

[jrrsparkles]

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

I understand that! But the policy doesn't help to curb teenage gamblers here! Streamers are prohibited from sharing links of the gambling websites. But they are not banned from streaming at all. Gambling related contents can be perfectly streamed on Twitch. So I am not sure how this new policy may remove problem gambling from teenagers!

This new policy will just bring down the affiliate income of the streamers to zero and that's it! Pretty stupid step it seems!

Banning the streamer will reduce the income for their platform so they are not going to do it unless government pushes them to do it and this is just to show that they are not encouraging teenagers so everyone please come to our platform is the motto behind such new policies.

[jaberwock]

only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
 it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

If you actually analyze the whole situation, I feel this move from twitch is more targeted towards crypto casinos than anything else. The most common games played at crypto casinos are - Slots, Dice and Roulette/Crash and they have specifically named Dice, which was quite strange.

Another thing that baffles me is how is twitch gonna differentiate between gambling links and normal links? I mean the streamer can always come and give shortened links to the audience.

There was no reason for twitch to ban or do anything but they have suddenly taken such a big step while not really putting much emphasis on what forced them to make such a move.

[pinggoki]

With the internet being more and more accessible to minor audiences, this is but a band-aid solution that twitch had offered its subscribers to ensure that no child is exposed to gambling at the earlier years of their life. Sadly, this will not only hurt the economy of twitch streamers who mostly rely on sponsorships to earn money, apart from subscribers and donations which don't always come by especially if you are a budding streamer. Then again I do hope that Twitch doesn't stop here since there will be more problems arising from this in the future if left unattended.

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

I saw a similar situation from this with Ricegum's subscribers. Apparently Ricegum had a CSGO skins lotto sponsor that had offered something to his subs too if they were to deposit money and play games. Sadly the site turned out to be a scam and Ricegum, along with the fraudulent company ran away with the money. He even went so far as to drop fake Amazon gift codes as a form of apology to his viewers which is a bit of a dick move if I do say so myself.

[uneng]

Another thing that baffles me is how is twitch gonna differentiate between gambling links and normal links? I mean the streamer can always come and give shortened links to the audience.

That is what I thought. Twitch isn't the first platform to ban referral links and as far as I know this approach isn't efficient. A good example of that is facebook which didn't succeed in doing so, as people just mask their links through third party sites and keep promoting any kinds of services, investments, activities, even the most shady ones without any difficult at all.
There are a lot of content on these platforms that it's nearly to impossible to track everything and remove what they consider inappropriate. In fact I think nothing is going to change in twitch platform. Gambling will keep being advertised anyway.

[Fortify]

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

It is crazy that twitch allowed it to go on for so long - you know that a regulator or lawyer has contacted them in order for them for a financial settlement when you start to see stories like this. They want to to "get ahead of the problem" and pretend to be the pioneer in banning it. In reality they just get to cut out a source of advertising competition within their pages and force these gambling type adverts to look more legitimate so they can take over that revenue stream. Gambling is a very lucrative niche within the advertising industry so it is unlikely to be removed from twitch in all forms. I remember a few years ago there was a big regulator smack down on counterstrike gambling sites with sites shut down and huge fines, so maybe they expect something else similar is going to happen to them.

[Saint-loup]

Another thing that baffles me is how is twitch gonna differentiate between gambling links and normal links? I mean the streamer can always come and give shortened links to the audience.

That is what I thought. Twitch isn't the first platform to ban referral links and as far as I know this approach isn't efficient. A good example of that is facebook which didn't succeed in doing so, as people just mask their links through third party sites and keep promoting any kinds of services, investments, activities, even the most shady ones without any difficult at all.
There are a lot of content on these platforms that it's nearly to impossible to track everything and remove what they consider inappropriate. In fact I think nothing is going to change in twitch platform. Gambling will keep being advertised anyway.

I'm not sure about that, the amount of available content on twitch has nothing to do with what you can find on Facebook, and Twitch is very efficient to spot and ban any non-compliant content. You will still maybe find some gambling links in chat rooms but I don't think any streamer will still be able to share this kind of link unfortunately.

[ryzaadit]

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these. 

[KTChampions]

Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

[just_Alice]

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

[timerland]

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these. 

Yeah definitely...

I think this is actually a positive development. There is way too much misinformation and misleading advertising being spread around due to these Twitch partners that are getting sponsor money. It's simply not fair given that they can cherrypick wins into a compilation video with their virtually infinite bankroll.

I'm all for consumer empowerment in this regard. They should actually extend the criteria to ban anyone who is playing with sponsored money that has to be returned when the session finishes.

[AmoreJaz]

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these.  

Yeah definitely...

I think this is actually a positive development. There is way too much misinformation and misleading advertising being spread around due to these Twitch partners that are getting sponsor money. It's simply not fair given that they can cherrypick wins into a compilation video with their virtually infinite bankroll.

I'm all for consumer empowerment in this regard. They should actually extend the criteria to ban anyone who is playing with sponsored money that has to be returned when the session finishes.

of course, they will create content that may deceive the audience. and we will never know the actual truth about the bankroll and winnings. they can show clips they want and remove the scenes which are not favourable for the site. this is really a very good initiative from twitch, at least lessen the scenario of getting screwed owed to the positive endorsement of these streamers. some supporters are blindly following their idols that's why sometimes it is already too late when they realised they were deceived by the endorsement.

[jostorres]

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

I think the ban was warranted given how some streamers were using illegal and fake balance to trick viewers. There is no way these streamers are always coming up with a $100k balance and losing it for fun while shouting after they win. Banning affiliate links isn't going to solve the problem totally though because they can still stream with these illegal balances and nothing is done about them.

I would have much preferred for Twitch to ban the gambling streams completely actually. There are countless other platforms for gambling streams and not sure why twitch wants to still keep it despite facing so much heat and pressure from European countries to ban it.

[fullhdpixel]

Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

The logic is similar to how people want crypto to be banned because it is being used for illegal activities in some places. People don't realize that a gun can be used for murder while also for protecting someone and banning it won't change anything. Streamers using fake money should have been banned and similarly, for only fans (never used it only heard of it), the streamers doing things wrongly should have been punished but instead, we are banning the whole thing.

[STT]

I saw gambling on a big Twitch stream just today, I barely noticed any difference from this rule really.   People still know where to go to gamble if they want to or just watch, thats the freedom that should be afforded anyone in a normal democracy.
 The idea of censorship removing all harm in the world is such nonsense on every subject in every sector of the economy it doesnt help to treat people like they have no ability to discern a reasonable direction without government.    Just crossing the road is the bigger risk vs almost any other problem people over think, instead of banning find a better way to help people with good advice is a way smarter idea.