Will Afghanistan fall into a prolonged state of war again?

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Americans are in an extremely bad spot.

The French are rescuing their citizens at the Kabul airport but also making evacuations in other places, the US soldiers are stranded at the airport.

The US can't go around extracting US citizens or Afghan allies outside of the airport because the fear is that the Taliban will start a physical shooting war with American troops - that means more troops must be brought back to the region, and the war that Biden tried to end will have literally have become worse had Biden left troops there in the first place.

Americans are screwed, the government you paid for will not help you.

There were also some journalists saying that American citizens were being charged 2,000 USD for a plane ride home. The state department scrapped it once the stories began to circulate it.

And if/when they get out of Afghanistan they will get shot with the mandatory de-pop 'vaccination' if they work in some capacity for the Biden regime.

I tell you, if I was an Western operative with skills and/or access to material, I would seriously consider 'getting lost' in the shuffle and starting a new life.  At least for a while.

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[verita1]

Very good question OP, and of great relevance to this current situation. It is true that the Afghan army has 350,000 trained personnel.
While the Taliban only have 85,000 fighters and the vast majority are not trained for this.

One of the actions for which the government of Afghanistan did not act against this group of terrorists occurred through the government itself and its president.
We see the case of its former President Asharf Ghani, who said that his departure from the country was to avoid a massacre.
It is believed that because of this initiative the Afghan army did not act, to avoid mortality in the country.

It is also believed that it may be due to the agreement signed in Doha, Qatar. For the former President of the United Studies Donald Trump with the Taliban, who sought the agreement to safeguard the security of the United States and the agreement to bring peace in Afghanistan.
Although the visible result for the moment has been the fall of the Afghan government and the fear that the Taliban will restore the regime that they imposed in Afghanistan before the invasion of the West.

[franky1]

Very good question OP, and of great relevance to this current situation. It is true that the Afghan army has 350,000 trained personnel.
While the Taliban only have 85,000 fighters and the vast majority are not trained for this.

One of the actions for which the government of Afghanistan did not act against this group of terrorists occurred through the government itself and its president.
We see the case of its former President Asharf Ghani, who said that his departure from the country was to avoid a massacre.
It is believed that because of this initiative the Afghan army did not act, to avoid mortality in the country.

It is also believed that it may be due to the agreement signed in Doha, Qatar. For the former President of the United Studies Donald Trump with the Taliban, who sought the agreement to safeguard the security of the United States and the agreement to bring peace in Afghanistan.
Although the visible result for the moment has been the fall of the Afghan government and the fear that the Taliban will restore the regime that they imposed in Afghanistan before the invasion of the West.

the afghan military had 200,000 troops in 2012
and that number has gone DOWN
in 2019 they had 'on paper' 185,000. but far far less on active duty, due to the fact that alot of the military were trained in air support roles not ground support roles

also to note. due to the deal trump done last year to start the US evacuation. he actually signed a deal that the taliban can take over as an effort to prevent al-queda taking over. part of this is saying to the afghan military to not intrude on the taliban take-over, but instead only seek out any al-queda threats.

and this is why the afghan army didnt put up a fight.

To put the above another way, the Taliban currently has up to 40,000 American hostages. In the last 24 hours, the US was able to evacuate around 700 Americans out of Afghanistan.

the embassy employees were evacuated in july. all thats really left in afghanistan are the remaining american troops.

as for your 'last 24 hours 700 americans'
it is actually more like 2000 (averaging more than that per day)

as for your 40,000 american hostages... well that sounds like a number pulled out your back side
the state department counted between 5k to 10k americans expected to be in afghanistan
(as of date of your post)

your probably including all 'american contractors' which includes the native afghan translators and workers paid by america. by which.. yes they dont get an easy pass to get on a plane. but this is not really a taliban 'hostage taker' thing but an american policy about refugee application processing delay.

yes biden should just do a 'bring them all to another american controlled country' and process them in safety away from afghanistan, but at the moment its still a 'apply in afghanistan and wait your turn'... near impossible to do when all the US embassy's have gone

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[inoes]

Hopefully this long war will not be repeated.
A spokesman for the Taliban's political office, Suhail Shaheen, has declared that the war is over and called for peace with the international community.
And now for the type and form of the new regime in Afghanistan will be explained soon and possibly still being formulated considering the conditions are still post-war. the Afghan government urges citizens not to worry. stated that his life and property would remain safe.
In addition, dozens of countries from around the world called on all those involved in the events in Afghanistan to respect and facilitate the departure of foreign nationals and Afghans who wish to leave the country. it really symbolizes peace.

[Gyfts]

ISIS really outdoing the taliban in the theocratic totalitarianism olympics. Radical islamic terrorism claiming yet even more lives.

Suicide bombing with multiple casualties, at least 3 US troops injured.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/26/explosion-rocks-kabul-airport-as-us-tries-to-evacuate-thousands-506937

US intel was right, shocker. They saw a terror attack on the airport incoming and starting evacuating troops in anticipation maybe. US troops will be shipped out of the country in record time, too much risk for them to stay around and I'm sure the US intel community knows this. Expect more terror attacks to come.

Edit - 40 + Afghans killed, 4 US troops killed.

[PrimeNumber7]

US intel was right, shocker. They saw a terror attack on the airport incoming and starting evacuating troops in anticipation maybe. US troops will be shipped out of the country in record time, too much risk for them to stay around and I'm sure the US intel community knows this. Expect more terror attacks to come.

There is always the potential for terrorists and enemy attacks against US troops. If we were to pull out our troops every time they are at risk of attack, we would lose every war.

The attack is entirely the fault of Biden. The attack was carried out by people who were freed from the prison at Bagram airbase that was abandoned by Biden last month. The US should expand its presence so it can increase security in Afghanistan.

Edit - 40 + Afghans killed, 4 US troops killed.

There were 14 US troops killed.

Biden is blaming Trump on the deaths.

edit:
Biden just admitted we had won the war in Afghanistan, even though he had surrendered less than two weeks ago.

[PrimeNumber7]

Biden is blaming Trump on the deaths.

Completely wrong, of course.

Biden just said, literally and I quote,

"I bear responsibility for fundamentally all of what has happened."

A sentence that has never been uttered nor would ever be uttered by Trump.

Again, Biden shows leadership in a situation where Trump would have displayed dicklessness.

If you listed to what he said immediately after that statement, you would have heard that he blamed the situation on the deal that Trump stuck with the Taliban, that the Taliban broke, which if Trump was in charge, would not have resulted in the US withdrawing.

[nutildah]

If you listed to what he said immediately after that statement, you would have heard that he blamed the situation on the deal that Trump stuck with the Taliban, that the Taliban broke, which if Trump was in charge, would not have resulted in the US withdrawing.

What are you talking about? He didn't say any of that. The press conference ended literally a minute later.

Edit:

I take it back, he did say some of it -- though it was all prefaced by the admission that he accepts responsibility for what happened.

[Mauser]

So the USA didn't even fully leave Afghanistan yet and there were 2 new bombing attacks killing American soldiers. This is getting difficult now for Joe Biden, because the American people will demand some kind of retribution. Going back into Afghanistan with a large army is not an option, but some kind of spec op mission with air support is definitely going to happen. The war is not really over, but it will only be small engagements behind the curtain. Also the NGOs are being asked to stay in Afghanistan and help with the rebuilding of the country, some kind of deal needs to be done here.

[Igebotz]

Biden is blaming Trump on the deaths.

This is not the time to play the blame game. The war on terrorism has been waged since 2001 against a small group of illiterates with guns, and despite billions of dollars being spent, these people are becoming more powerful every day. Return to your leaders and hold them accountable for enriching themselves while sending innocent husbands and fathers to die as a result of what they have produced.

This is your leader?

[franky1]

how about..
for every american killed in america. one of trumps real estates should be wiped off the planet

hmm
in america.. 20,000 americans kill other americans...... no news no emotion

14 americans killed in a country they are not suppose to be in... mass media and twitter anger that afghanistan should be wiped out because people who shouldnt be there died and so the country they shouldnt be in should not be in existance..

seriously idiots writing tweets about destroying a whiole city due to a single death. really needs his own head checked because he is sounding more like a terrorist than the taliban are