Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China

[5thFear]

I don't think that the Afghanistan war was for a show off. It never can be. All the game was for Gwadar port. A port that gives Chinese access to the middle east and provides 2nd option for China in case of blockade of South China sea.
It was for the same reason USSR attacked Afghanistan to get access to the warm waters and it is for the same reason China is developing CPEC. And USA wanted to counter it using Afghanistan as a proxy. This afghan war was a war of Intelligence agencies. CIA, MOSSAD, RAW, MI6 against ISI, MSS, Russian agency ...

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[B1tUnl0ck3r]

"We spent $2.26 trillion over 20 years in Afghanistan which has a population of 37.5 million which is $60,267 per capita. Afghan per capita GDP is about $500 by exchange rates and $2,000 by PPP (purchasing power parity). If we use the higher latter number, we could have provided 30 years worth of income for every single person living in Afghanistan instead of 20 years of war, or more than doubled living standards by 150% for 20 years.  Another perspective, at 4 persons per family, we could have built each family in Afghanistan a $241,000 manson (a new apt in Kabul costs say $25k).  The irony too is that the CIA started the Taliban to fight the soviets.  Anyways, what an immense waste, normal whenever gov. touches anything."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-official-confirms-no-democracy-afghanistan-council-will-likely-rule?commentId=27fdc2c6-0b3e-4f01-a91e-59357831d0e1

finance guys have a way with words that often touches me...

[DashingAgent]

That money is used for NATO, I don't think so that anything is spent on Afghans.

"We spent $2.26 trillion over 20 years in Afghanistan which has a population of 37.5 million which is $60,267 per capita. Afghan per capita GDP is about $500 by exchange rates and $2,000 by PPP (purchasing power parity). If we use the higher latter number, we could have provided 30 years worth of income for every single person living in Afghanistan instead of 20 years of war, or more than doubled living standards by 150% for 20 years.  Another perspective, at 4 persons per family, we could have built each family in Afghanistan a $241,000 manson (a new apt in Kabul costs say $25k).  The irony too is that the CIA started the Taliban to fight the soviets.  Anyways, what an immense waste, normal whenever gov. touches anything."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taliban-official-confirms-no-democracy-afghanistan-council-will-likely-rule?commentId=27fdc2c6-0b3e-4f01-a91e-59357831d0e1

finance guys have a way with words that often touches me...

[OgNasty]

If it was to show off our capabilities then we failed miserably. China’s news media has been bashing the US pretty badly throughout this catastrophe of a pullout. I honestly can’t believe that Joe Biden has been defending this and people are giving him a pass. It’s amazing to me that our government has become so incompetent. The leadership our military has right now is not only dangerous, it’s downright embarrassing.

[hornetsnest]

[Mukmin]

I don't think that the Afghanistan war was for a show off. It never can be. All the game was for Gwadar port. A port that gives Chinese access to the middle east and provides 2nd option for China in case of blockade of South China sea.
It was for the same reason USSR attacked Afghanistan to get access to the warm waters and it is for the same reason China is developing CPEC. And USA wanted to counter it using Afghanistan as a proxy. This afghan war was a war of Intelligence agencies. CIA, MOSSAD, RAW, MI6 against ISI, MSS, Russian agency ...

I think so. in addition to the war against the intelligence services of developed countries, Afghanistan is also a good place for drug lords with natural resources to produce opium. military officials also sell weapons illegally to rebel groups, so the conflict will never end and there will be civil war.

[Mukmin]

If it was to show off our capabilities then we failed miserably. China’s news media has been bashing the US pretty badly throughout this catastrophe of a pullout. I honestly can’t believe that Joe Biden has been defending this and people are giving him a pass. It’s amazing to me that our government has become so incompetent. The leadership our military has right now is not only dangerous, it’s downright embarrassing.

the American government has failed and that's a shame. In fact, America is a superpower, but in Afghanistan, America is losing. On the battlefield, it is not always the strong who wins.

[Xinarae*]

Demonstrating power does not always win after the US defeat the taliban took power ending nearly 20 years of US led coalition presence in afghanistan. China has called on the international community to refrain from putting pressure on afghanistan the call comes as the taliban has resurfaced and is about to hand over power after the withdrawal of US troops from afghanistan. At the same time it has refused to use afghanistan as a means of gaining self interest.

[_Miracle]

Hillary Clinton's Old Afghanistan Prediction Goes Viral: The Young Turks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlbZt56qv18&t=338s


"the people we're fighting today, we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets"

[hornetsnest]

Rule NUMBER 1 ...NEVER pull out your military before you pull out your civvies  

Gen.hornet 1st battalion and patron of the legion of losers and lost causes

[teosanru]

Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia

Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia but Britain, along with the United States, lost the war. And it sent a message to China and Russia that they are also weak against people who do not have weapons like the United States or Europe. So is there anything to be gained from joint US-British military exercises? In case if the Taliban retake Afghanistan?

I don't exactly think so! I mean the US and its military power is really something which everyone around the world acknowledges as being the very best, with a lot of middle east operations the US already has a lot of examples to give to Russia and China, you can argue that Iraq was the battleground for US to show it's power but not Afghanistan. The main reason why the US was forced to Invade Afghanistan was because of Osama Bin Laden, US wanted to avenge 9/11 and had to look strong against terrorism as well as to other nations, which was the reason they went all the way to Invade a full country, but yes unarguably, they might have won battles but lost the war

[BlackViruse]

Rule NUMBER 1 ...NEVER pull out your military before you pull out your civvies  

The government don't care about the citizens left in Afghanistan they will pretend on Tv like they really care but they are only after the tax money put into war, the US and NATO left all fighting jet, weapons in the hands of the Talibans. The Talibans want an inclusive government and that's the best way to go about it, they will do a better job than what the former governments did.

[yhiaali3]

I do not think that the United States has a desire to lose more soldiers in Afghanistan, the memory of Vietnam is still a painful memory for all Americans, I think it is a kind of display of military muscle and sending different messages to China and Russia perhaps, America stayed 20 years in Afghanistan and in the end simply got out And unexpectedly, what has the United States of America achieved in Afghanistan after all these years and after all the massive destruction it has inflicted on this poor country?

[Gyfts]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1433446457491742724

We knew this was coming. China taking every opportunity possible to implant their power in Afghanistan, and that includes partnering with terrorists. Chinese aggression means they'll be taking Taiwan very soon, so any hopes of their own autonomy are thrown out the window. Also means China's economy grows stronger adding another trading partner.