🥶 Winter Beijin 2022 🥶 Discussion and bet thread 🥶 Winter Game 🥶

[LTU_btc]

To the olympics: As far as i know only diplomats are boycotting the games and no athletes so far. So that is not that big of a deal for me.

Yeah, I think only diplomats and politics from Western countries will boycott games and yeah, it's not big deal, nobody will miss them there. I think something similar happened in 2014 Olympics in Sochi were diplomats from some country also didn't attend games.  It's not case like 1980 or 1984 Olympics were atheletes from some countries didn't participated in it.

Another huge games during pandemic. Will every country send their athletes there? Some countries decides to boycott the games. Is team US comming? As it is in Chine, I bet China will get most of the medals these year. I am going to watch ice hockey, biathlon and bobsleigh. Any curling fun here?

I think it's very unlikely that China will lead medal table, they're not good at winter sports. Most likely it will be usual suspects like Sweden, Norway, USA, Canada, Germany.
And Olympics is only time in 4 years when I tune in to watch curling . Main sport for me is hockey and biathlon.

[mm2543363580]

Yeah, I think only diplomats and politics from Western countries will boycott games and yeah, it's not big deal, nobody will miss them there. I think something similar happened in 2014 Olympics in Sochi were diplomats from some country also didn't attend games.  It's not case like 1980 or 1984 Olympics were atheletes from some countries didn't participated in it.

Countries politics have major role in joining a specific sports event or not. AFAIK, USA is coming to attend this Olympics and boycott of this Olympics will defiantly give benefit to China as they will be able to grab more gold. Last time in 2018 winter Olympics, China was able to get only one gold medal.

https://olympics.com/en/olympic-games/pyeongchang-2018/medals

[TopTort777]

I have completely forgotten the pain in the ass I've got while watching previous Winter games due to time zone… Beijin has almost identical local time as Pyeongchang… I guess I am going to miss all that juicy live hockey matches and races. But, it will be easy to spot who is following Olympic games and who is not by the light in the window Every time I think about that time zone difference, I get really upset. It will be impossible to watch any sport, as spoilers will be in social media, tv news, any general news resource in the internet. Spoilers everywhere…

[joker_josue]

Every time I think about that time zone difference, I get really upset. It will be impossible to watch any sport, as spoilers will be in social media, tv news, any general news resource in the internet. Spoilers everywhere…

This ends up always being a problem for someone in the world. It is impossible for all games to be played on a schedule that suits everyone.
It is true that when competitions take place in Europe, it is easier to have a schedule that is more accessible to everyone in the world. But, they cannot happen in Europe. When you go to Asia or even the Americas, this management becomes more complicated.

Now, the annoying thing is the person until wanting to see the test, even recorded, and then at some point in the news we saw the result. 

[VanityWallets2015]

It would be a great pity if there is no public at this event. Many athletes have been living here for 4 or maybe 8 years. With support in the hall and stadiums, some athletes rise above themselves. Maybe it can still be decided to admit the public if the virus can be kept under control? It is only difficult to isolate the athletes if there is an audience. Or very strict access controls. Antigen test eg could be useful but very expensive and very time consuming.

[TopTort777]

It would be a great pity if there is no public at this event. Many athletes have been living here for 4 or maybe 8 years. With support in the hall and stadiums, some athletes rise above themselves. Maybe it can still be decided to admit the public if the virus can be kept under control? It is only difficult to isolate the athletes if there is an audience. Or very strict access controls. Antigen test eg could be useful but very expensive and very time consuming.

During Summer Olympic games 2020 there were spectators in every sport. During Football Euro 2020 there also spectators on the stadium. I think this wont be a problem at all. Specially for those who are vaccinated. Just show QR code, wear mask and you are free to enter everything. Even 2m distance rule is not necessary to follow.

The problem will be in getting to Beijin. Some countries does not accept vaccine from particular companies, or does not accept test made not in their country. This might be the biggest issue, when you are vaccinated, but, for example, Pfizer is not authorized in Beijin. And you either have to schedule a new vaccine (of course this must be scheduled in advance), which you might want to take (who needs an extra vaccine, huh?) or side effects can spoil persons stay during games.

[delfastTions]

It would be a great pity if there is no public at this event. Many athletes have been living here for 4 or maybe 8 years. With support in the hall and stadiums, some athletes rise above themselves. Maybe it can still be decided to admit the public if the virus can be kept under control? It is only difficult to isolate the athletes if there is an audience. Or very strict access controls. Antigen test eg could be useful but very expensive and very time consuming.

During Summer Olympic games 2020 there were spectators in every sport. During Football Euro 2020 there also spectators on the stadium. I think this wont be a problem at all. Specially for those who are vaccinated. Just show QR code, wear mask and you are free to enter everything. Even 2m distance rule is not necessary to follow.

The problem will be in getting to Beijin. Some countries does not accept vaccine from particular companies, or does not accept test made not in their country. This might be the biggest issue, when you are vaccinated, but, for example, Pfizer is not authorized in Beijin. And you either have to schedule a new vaccine (of course this must be scheduled in advance), which you might want to take (who needs an extra vaccine, huh?) or side effects can spoil persons stay during games.

China is a very strict country with pretty much the same order and rules.  I do not yet know if the viewers who are vaccinated with the vaccine from Pfizer or Moderna will be allowed to show the QR code and freely enter the stands?  As I know, the Chinese also have several of their own vaccines.  And of course, they will allow those vaccinated with the Chinese vaccine to fill the stands.  But with the vaccine and from other countries, for example from Russia, it is not clear.  
And you have to be a completely crazy fan, so that in addition to my vaccine, I also have a Chinese one.  And by the way, it is not known whether this is possible.  These difficulties, of course, greatly overshadow the Olympic Games themselves.  But what can you do?  You have to put up with such difficulties.

[Theones]

China is a very strict country with pretty much the same order and rules.  I do not yet know if the viewers who are vaccinated with the vaccine from Pfizer or Moderna will be allowed to show the QR code and freely enter the stands?  As I know, the Chinese also have several of their own vaccines.  And of course, they will allow those vaccinated with the Chinese vaccine to fill the stands.  But with the vaccine and from other countries, for example from Russia, it is not clear.  
And you have to be a completely crazy fan, so that in addition to my vaccine, I also have a Chinese one.  And by the way, it is not known whether this is possible.  These difficulties, of course, greatly overshadow the Olympic Games themselves.  But what can you do?  You have to put up with such difficulties.

I guess it will be better to watch these games at home on your LED TV and cheer for your favorite athlete from comfort of your home rather then going through such strict hurdles of vaccine to watch the game. The vaccine diplomacy is at its peak, every country trying to prove that his vaccine is best and will accept people who have that vaccine.

[delfastTions]

China is a very strict country with pretty much the same order and rules.  I do not yet know if the viewers who are vaccinated with the vaccine from Pfizer or Moderna will be allowed to show the QR code and freely enter the stands?  As I know, the Chinese also have several of their own vaccines.  And of course, they will allow those vaccinated with the Chinese vaccine to fill the stands.  But with the vaccine and from other countries, for example from Russia, it is not clear.  
And you have to be a completely crazy fan, so that in addition to my vaccine, I also have a Chinese one.  And by the way, it is not known whether this is possible.  These difficulties, of course, greatly overshadow the Olympic Games themselves.  But what can you do?  You have to put up with such difficulties.

I guess it will be better to watch these games at home on your LED TV and cheer for your favorite athlete from comfort of your home rather then going through such strict hurdles of vaccine to watch the game. The vaccine diplomacy is at its peak, every country trying to prove that his vaccine is best and will accept people who have that vaccine.

Yeah, that's for sure!  Moreover, in reality during the Olympic Games 99.9% of all spectators watch the competitions of their favorite athletes and teams on TV.  And most of it is also in the recording, or separate video clips from the finish line or various noteworthy events during the competition.
But if a fan is present personally, then this is an order of magnitude more emotionally perceived by him. 
A good way to watch competitions in pubs, clubs or with a large number of fans of a particular competition.  Only for this, too, you need to get vaccinated

[rijaljun]

China is a very strict country with pretty much the same order and rules.  I do not yet know if the viewers who are vaccinated with the vaccine from Pfizer or Moderna will be allowed to show the QR code and freely enter the stands?  As I know, the Chinese also have several of their own vaccines.  And of course, they will allow those vaccinated with the Chinese vaccine to fill the stands.  But with the vaccine and from other countries, for example from Russia, it is not clear.  
And you have to be a completely crazy fan, so that in addition to my vaccine, I also have a Chinese one.  And by the way, it is not known whether this is possible.  These difficulties, of course, greatly overshadow the Olympic Games themselves.  But what can you do?  You have to put up with such difficulties.

I guess it will be better to watch these games at home on your LED TV and cheer for your favorite athlete from comfort of your home rather then going through such strict hurdles of vaccine to watch the game. The vaccine diplomacy is at its peak, every country trying to prove that his vaccine is best and will accept people who have that vaccine.

There is indeed no other option than to hold the Olympics without an audience. The risk of infections is far too great with all the associated consequences. Athletes should also be able to isolate themselves well during this tournament, I think? Doesn't seem very pleasant to me. You may then only be present with your own team from your own country. You will be completely isolated from the outside world. Very boring, but there's no other way.

[LTU_btc]

During Summer Olympic games 2020 there were spectators in every sport. During Football Euro 2020 there also spectators on the stadium. I think this wont be a problem at all. Specially for those who are vaccinated. Just show QR code, wear mask and you are free to enter everything. Even 2m distance rule is not necessary to follow.

The problem will be in getting to Beijin. Some countries does not accept vaccine from particular companies, or does not accept test made not in their country. This might be the biggest issue, when you are vaccinated, but, for example, Pfizer is not authorized in Beijin. And you either have to schedule a new vaccine (of course this must be scheduled in advance), which you might want to take (who needs an extra vaccine, huh?) or side effects can spoil persons stay during games.

EURO 2020 games had from 25% to 100% spectators in different cities. But you're wrong, Tokyo 2020 Olympics were held without spectators - all events were with empty stands.
And I think it was already confirmed some time ago to China won't let foreign spectators to watch Olympics. Now it's only question whether local people will allowed to watch Olympics.

A good way to watch competitions in pubs, clubs or with a large number of fans of a particular competition.  Only for this, too, you need to get vaccinated

Unfortunately, most of events will be played in morning time when pubs won't be opened yet . And winter sports isn't that popular as football for example, I doubt that many people watch it in pubs. Well, maybe mainly hockey fans in Canada, Sweden or Finland .

[yayayo]

During Summer Olympic games 2020 there were spectators in every sport. During Football Euro 2020 there also spectators on the stadium. I think this wont be a problem at all. Specially for those who are vaccinated. Just show QR code, wear mask and you are free to enter everything. Even 2m distance rule is not necessary to follow.

The problem will be in getting to Beijin. Some countries does not accept vaccine from particular companies, or does not accept test made not in their country. This might be the biggest issue, when you are vaccinated, but, for example, Pfizer is not authorized in Beijin. And you either have to schedule a new vaccine (of course this must be scheduled in advance), which you might want to take (who needs an extra vaccine, huh?) or side effects can spoil persons stay during games.

EURO 2020 games had from 25% to 100% spectators in different cities. But you're wrong, Tokyo 2020 Olympics were held without spectators - all events were with empty stands.
And I think it was already confirmed some time ago to China won't let foreign spectators to watch Olympics. Now it's only question whether local people will allowed to watch Olympics.

A good way to watch competitions in pubs, clubs or with a large number of fans of a particular competition.  Only for this, too, you need to get vaccinated

Unfortunately, most of events will be played in morning time when pubs won't be opened yet . And winter sports isn't that popular as football for example, I doubt that many people watch it in pubs. Well, maybe mainly hockey fans in Canada, Sweden or Finland .

The summer games are more popular than the winter games, that's for sure. However, now that it's held in China Wort, a lot of people would otherwise go to watch matches. It is not for nothing that the largest population in the world. Too bad there's no audience allowed. I also cannot imagine that the situation with the virus will be completely under control within 2 months, because then the games will start. The Chinese population, are they actually fanatic alcohol drinkers? I thought they mainly ate sushi there instead of drinking beer 

ya.ya.yo!

[coinlocket$]

Too bad there's no audience allowed.

Is this confirmed?
If I can remember correctly people are allowed but only if they are citizens of China.

Maybe they have changed it since I had read it.

[24Kt]

Too bad there's no audience allowed.

Is this confirmed?
If I can remember correctly people are allowed but only if they are citizens of China.

Maybe they have changed it since I had read it.

They are changing the protocols because of this new omicron variant which is said to be fast spreader. So we may see a "silent" winter olympics here without the audience. Just watch the events on your tv screen. And bet on your favorite casinos. Better be safe than sorry. It will be another dilemma for athletes because sometimes boost from audience is good but it seems they will be playing without audience.

[alegotardo]

Too bad there's no audience allowed.

Is this confirmed?
If I can remember correctly people are allowed but only if they are citizens of China.

Maybe they have changed it since I had read it.

We've already had the Tokyo Olympics without an audience, and still it was a formidable spectacle. I hope the Chinese are able to do the same.
China has a very strict protocol against covid, and it is thanks to it that they managed to eradicate covid-19 in 2020.

Unfortunately, those who suffer most from these restrictions are the local audience, but this is an unavoidable protection measure for games to take place, otherwise they could be canceled due to the emergence of the omicron variant that is making many countries lock-down.

I support games without an audience.

[delfastTions]

A good way to watch competitions in pubs, clubs or with a large number of fans of a particular competition.  Only for this, too, you need to get vaccinated

Unfortunately, most of events will be played in morning time when pubs won't be opened yet . And winter sports isn't that popular as football for example, I doubt that many people watch it in pubs. Well, maybe mainly hockey fans in Canada, Sweden or Finland .

Oh, exactly!  I somehow did not take into account that China is in a completely different time zone.  Indeed, those countries where everyone watches the competition in pubs are in other time zones.  And all European countries and all America.  So yeah, it looks like it won't work this time.  We'll have to follow the news about the games just on TV and in the channels dedicated to the review of sports events.

[TopTort777]

I guess it will be better to watch these games at home on your LED TV and cheer for your favorite athlete from comfort of your home

This applies only if you don't have to go to work next day and set an alarm Otherwise the pillow and blanket will be your LED TV for next 6-8 hours.

The Chinese population, are they actually fanatic alcohol drinkers? I thought they mainly ate sushi there instead of drinking beer 

Hope that does not offend our Chinese bitcointalk users, but you will be amazed if you google and see the numbers of strong alcohol they consume. A friend of mine works in alcohol industry and China and UAE (that surprizes me most) are main importers of alco.

Btw, instead of sushi and beer, I would better drink something more strong for covid disinfection and prevention  And sorry, but sushi is traditional Japanese food, Chinese are crazy about noodles and rice

Guys, what sport are you going to watch ? Any ice hockey fans here?

[mm2543363580]

Hope that does not offend our Chinese bitcointalk users, but you will be amazed if you google and see the numbers of strong alcohol they consume. A friend of mine works in alcohol industry and China and UAE (that surprizes me most) are main importers of alco.

Btw, instead of sushi and beer, I would better drink something more strong for covid disinfection and prevention  And sorry, but sushi is traditional Japanese food, Chinese are crazy about noodles and rice

Guys, what sport are you going to watch ? Any ice hockey fans here?

UAE is a Muslim dominated country but alcohol and woman are easily available there, since they don't wanna lose revenue coming from tourism. Its tourists who consumed most part of alcohol in UAE.

Fate of Chinese ice hockey team is to be decided by International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) due to "insufficient sporting standard." Source. Do you have any update on that whether Chinese team is coming or not.

[TopTort777]

Do you ask about whether Chinese ice hockey team is comming or whole Chinise Olympic deligation?

If you search your question on the page you have posted, you would find that “they are comming”. But they will be an easy 3 points for every their opponent. Personally, I would allow them or any team to play, no matter how good or bad they are. Their opponent can test different tactics and combinations against such team, instead of testing against a strong opponent or in play-offs. One disadvantage of such games - strong team players might get an injury in a match that does not affect anything.

[LTU_btc]

Do you ask about whether Chinese ice hockey team is comming or whole Chinise Olympic deligation?

If you search your question on the page you have posted, you would find that “they are comming”. But they will be an easy 3 points for every their opponent. Personally, I would allow them or any team to play, no matter how good or bad they are. Their opponent can test different tactics and combinations against such team, instead of testing against a strong opponent or in play-offs. One disadvantage of such games - strong team players might get an injury in a match that does not affect anything.

China playing just in 4th tier World Championship - Division II A. They're in same group with USA, Canada and Germany. If they will be allowed to play, even without NHL players these teams are going to destroy them. Double digits scores is likely to happen.
In previous Olympics, South Korea also didn't had big achievements in hockey, but they're much better than China and played decent there. They played decent hockey in 2018. I'm not sure what right decision about China would be.

Guys, what sport are you going to watch ? Any ice hockey fans here?

As said in previous post, I'm going to watch hockey and biathlon mainly. I'm going to support our neighbours Latvia in hockey like it would be my country.