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February 09, 2022, 04:31:01 PM
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It is interesting to note how the medals are mostly being won by European countries. Neither the United States and Canada have managed to enter the top 10. And only China and the Russian altetas manage to be in the midst of so many European countries.

Perhaps this shows that these sports are for athletes with more money, making countries with fewer resources, able to present more competitive athletes.

I was seeing the medal tally on 9th Feb and as per your saying all medals were for athletes from EU with few going to China and ROC. No athlete from underdeveloped country was able to win any medal. Winter games are expensive as they require specific environment which is not in everyone reach.
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February 09, 2022, 05:48:27 PM
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Highlights from Day 4 of the Beijing Winter Olympics

Jonna Sundling wins the cross-country skiing gold medal for Sweden.
Matthias Mayer wins the super G and snowboarder Benjam Karl wins the parallel giant slalom for Austria.
In men's figure skating, USA's Nathan Chen sets a new world record.
Esther Ledecka wins first gold for Czech Republic in snowboarding.
Gold for France's Quentin Fillon Maillet in the men's 20km individual biathlon.
In the men's 1500m speed skating event, Kjeld Nuis (Netherlands) defends his Olympic title.

Olympic Medal Table


Source: https://olympics.com/beijing-2022/olympic-games/en/results/all-sports/medal-standings.htm

A good start from Germany, Norway and the Netherlands - in the last Olympics, these teams took 2nd, 1st and 5th place respectively, apparently they are going to repeat their success at least. The rest of the favorites like the US and Canada will have their say a little later, I think that in order to more or less represent the overall position of the teams in the distribution of places, we must wait until at least a third of the medal sets are distributed.

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February 09, 2022, 08:12:36 PM
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I won't say that it's the case, yes having more money might play a role but the skills of an athlete is the biggest factor for the wins in the competition. To some degree I can sympathize though, I mean I came from a poor country that doesn't support their athletes which ends up with some of them going to greener pastures and end up getting representing the country that appreciated them.

Look, it will be very difficult for an athlete from Africa to participate and be competitive in the Winter Olympics. For that, he needs to live in countries that have the conditions to practice winter sports and, in turn, have support to be able to make a good preparation.

I'm not saying that poorer countries can't participate and even win some medals. But in winter games, this factor is very noticeable. Because everything in itself is expensive: the equipment, the training places, etc.

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February 09, 2022, 08:19:36 PM
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Big scandal in Olympic games. Russian figure skating sensation 15 year old Kamila Valieva got positive doping test which was given prior game:
https://www.givemesport.com/87970909-winter-olympics-figure-skater-kamila-valieva-is-centre-of-russian-anti-doping-test-investigation
If it's true, she won't be punished very strictly because she is younger than 16 years. But she will be banned from further competitions and Russia will lose medals in team competition.


Start of hockey tournament was interesting. Russia struggled against Switzerland and won just 1:0. Olympic games debutants Denmark surprising beat Czech Republic 2:1


It is interesting to note how the medals are mostly being won by European countries. Neither the United States and Canada have managed to enter the top 10. And only China and the Russian altetas manage to be in the midst of so many European countries.

Perhaps this shows that these sports are for athletes with more money, making countries with fewer resources, able to present more competitive athletes.

I think we should count Russia as European country too. It's nothing surprising that European countries dominate. They have best infrastructure, suitable weather for winter sports and not that much problems with money. Also, winter sports in other continents isn't that popular, so less people participate in such competition. Though, for USA and Canada these Olympic games is big disappointment so far.

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February 09, 2022, 08:22:36 PM
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It looks different to the games without stands. Well, there are stands, but only with team members and staff. There's not much to it really, but there's no other way. No atmosphere at all. Some athletes get a boost from the public, normally it is also full of Chinese, who benefit a lot from that. China has good athletes in all areas in this tournament.

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February 09, 2022, 09:44:49 PM
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Highlights from Day 5 of the Beijing Winter Olympics

Gold medals for Tobias Wendl and Tobias Arlt move Germany to the top of the medal table.
Norway's Birk Ruud claimed gold in men's freestyle skiing big air final at Big Air Shougang.
Slovakia's Vlhova wins alpine skiing gold in the women's slalom run.
First gold for the USA goes to snowboarder Lindsey Jacobellis.
Germany's Vinzenz Geiger wins gold in Nordic combined .
Hwang Daeheon wins gold in short track skating for the Republic of Korea.

Olympic Medal Table (Top 10)


Source: https://olympics.com/beijing-2022/olympic-games/en/results/all-sports/medal-standings.htm

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February 09, 2022, 09:49:52 PM
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It is somewhat surprising that Germany is now at the top of the medal table. I expect America, Russia, China and possibly South Korea too high. The last one I'm not quite sure. We have only just started playing, most sports are on the ice now such as skating and short track. I personally like the summer games a bit more. But, its good to see that this Olympics were not cancelled.
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It is somewhat surprising that Germany is now at the top of the medal table. I expect America, Russia, China and possibly South Korea too high. The last one I'm not quite sure. We have only just started playing, most sports are on the ice now such as skating and short track. I personally like the summer games a bit more. But, its good to see that this Olympics were not cancelled.

Yes, in one day Germany went from 3 gold medals to 5 medals. Amazing, I wasn't expecting it. But we still have a lot of games ahead and there may be more changes in the medal table.

An interesting point is also the fact that the US finally appears in the Top 10. I don't know if it's because of the pandemic or because the games are in China, this year things don't seem to be going very well in the US.

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Norway has already surpassed Germany in the number of medals due to the fact that Norway, with equal gold (5) and silver (3) medals with Germany, also has 4 bronze medals, which Germany does not have.  
And by the way, USA also rose in the medal standings to 5 place.
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February 10, 2022, 12:02:34 PM
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Big scandal in Olympic games. Russian figure skating sensation 15 year old Kamila Valieva got positive doping test which was given prior game:
https://www.givemesport.com/87970909-winter-olympics-figure-skater-kamila-valieva-is-centre-of-russian-anti-doping-test-investigation
If it's true, she won't be punished very strictly because she is younger than 16 years. But she will be banned from further competitions and Russia will lose medals in team competition.

Muddy history. She has not yet been suspended and there is no final decision on her case, judging by the fact that she returned to training, it is likely that the violation will not be recognized as "completed". I heard that the US team is most outraged about this situation, since in the event of the disqualification of the Russian team, the gold will go to them.

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February 10, 2022, 12:09:12 PM
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Finally Team USA gained few position on medal table. At first I thought they came with a weaker roster due to covid. They often show good results at the Olympics, but they are on 5 place now.

Usually the host get lots of medals, but China got only 5 medals and their overall position in medal table is 12 today. I think they are better at summer Olympics.

Who do you think will get most medals this time? Norway were first last time, second were Germany, Canada was third. This time Canada has only 10 medals and takes fourth place.

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Big scandal in Olympic games. Russian figure skating sensation 15 year old Kamila Valieva got positive doping test which was given prior game:
https://www.givemesport.com/87970909-winter-olympics-figure-skater-kamila-valieva-is-centre-of-russian-anti-doping-test-investigation
If it's true, she won't be punished very strictly because she is younger than 16 years. But she will be banned from further competitions and Russia will lose medals in team competition.

Muddy history. She has not yet been suspended and there is no final decision on her case, judging by the fact that she returned to training, it is likely that the violation will not be recognized as "completed". I heard that the US team is most outraged about this situation, since in the event of the disqualification of the Russian team, the gold will go to them.

I'm not surprised that the Americans are most outraged, they won silver in the event!  Cheesy
As I see it, the issue here is that a young Russian figure skater, Valieva, was tested for doping well before the Olympics officially started (actually several weeks ago). This raises questions about why her results were not available to the public until after the Russians won their gold medal on Monday.

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Is there some sort of running involved in these Winter Olympics? One of my coworkers was telling me that they turned on the TV the other day and there was some sort of race, but I’ve always been under the impression that that’s all summer Olympics stuff ? Anyways on a side note hard for me to support these games in any way being that China is hosting.

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February 10, 2022, 02:11:18 PM
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This day surprised me yesterday because Norway can replace Germany's position to be number 1.



This Olympics will give more surprises because we still have 10 days later to see the end. Some countries cannot defend their position and replaced by other countries. I wonder what next countries will replace the position. Can Norway defend its position or Germany replace and be the number 1? It is still a big mystery.

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February 10, 2022, 03:32:59 PM
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This day surprised me yesterday because Norway can replace Germany's position to be number 1.

https://i.imgur.com/DbLIuk7.jpg

This Olympics will give more surprises because we still have 10 days later to see the end. Some countries cannot defend their position and replaced by other countries. I wonder what next countries will replace the position. Can Norway defend its position or Germany replace and be the number 1? It is still a big mystery.
This is not surprising at all, if you see medal tally of PyeongChang 2018  South Korean then Norway and Germany were at no 1 and 2 position with 14 Gold medals each while USA and Canada were at no 3 and 4 respectively. USA which was very down in initial days is now at no 4 position with 4 Gold medals. There are 10 days still left, may be in coming days Canada also jump up.
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February 10, 2022, 05:41:29 PM
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This day surprised me yesterday because Norway can replace Germany's position to be number 1.

It doesn't come as a really big surprise, Scandinavian countries have always been extremely diligent medal winners at the Winter Olympic Games. In fact, Norway is a record eight times' gold medalists' already, with a staggering 132 gold medals! [wiki] That's not all. They won 368 total medals at the 23 editions of the games to date.

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February 10, 2022, 06:02:53 PM
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It is somewhat surprising that Germany is now at the top of the medal table. I expect America, Russia, China and possibly South Korea too high. The last one I'm not quite sure. We have only just started playing, most sports are on the ice now such as skating and short track. I personally like the summer games a bit more. But, its good to see that this Olympics were not cancelled.

Yes, in one day Germany went from 3 gold medals to 5 medals. Amazing, I wasn't expecting it. But we still have a lot of games ahead and there may be more changes in the medal table.

An interesting point is also the fact that the US finally appears in the Top 10. I don't know if it's because of the pandemic or because the games are in China, this year things don't seem to be going very well in the US.

Germany always have been pretty strong in the winter olympics. Back in the olympic games of 2018 they were also on the second place after the end of the games. So it's not really that surprising that they are doing pretty well so far again, even though they probably won't win any medals in the ice skating competitions again this year, which is a sport where Germany always won a lot of medals in the past, but somehow they don't have real world class athletes there nowadays. I think it can be a close race again between Norway and Germany for the first place of the medal table this year again, but Norway probably will be first again.
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February 10, 2022, 07:45:02 PM
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Muddy history. She has not yet been suspended and there is no final decision on her case, judging by the fact that she returned to training, it is likely that the violation will not be recognized as "completed". I heard that the US team is most outraged about this situation, since in the event of the disqualification of the Russian team, the gold will go to them.

I'm not surprised that the Americans are most outraged, they won silver in the event!  Cheesy
As I see it, the issue here is that a young Russian figure skater, Valieva, was tested for doping well before the Olympics officially started (actually several weeks ago). This raises questions about why her results were not available to the public until after the Russians won their gold medal on Monday.

It is rather strange that there is still no final court decision regarding the medals and punishment of Valieva. Given that this is her first sin, she will most likely get off with a disqualification for several months. As for the distribution of medals, in my opinion, the longer the decision is delayed, the more difficult it will be to change the results later. It looks like the US will stay with silver  Grin

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February 10, 2022, 08:34:14 PM
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Not most interesting day in hockey. Favorites achieved easy wins, only Sweden had difficulties with Latvia.
Congratulations to Latvia for winning first medal - bronze in luge. Germany continue to dominate, another Gold, Austria took silver. BTW, mixed relay in luge is fun thing to watch.

It is rather strange that there is still no final court decision regarding the medals and punishment of Valieva. Given that this is her first sin, she will most likely get off with a disqualification for several months. As for the distribution of medals, in my opinion, the longer the decision is delayed, the more difficult it will be to change the results later. It looks like the US will stay with silver  Grin
Yeah, this story looks isn't easy to make decision because Valieva is younger than 16 years and rules is a bit different for them.

Is there some sort of running involved in these Winter Olympics? One of my coworkers was telling me that they turned on the TV the other day and there was some sort of race, but I’ve always been under the impression that that’s all summer Olympics stuff ? Anyways on a side note hard for me to support these games in any way being that China is hosting.
Your friend probably confused something. There is no running events in Winter Games. Events which is most close to running is skating and skiing.

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Highlights from Day 6 of the Beijing Winter Olympics

Germany claim third consecutive luge team relay gold. (This gold in the luge puts Germany at the top of the medal table!)
Rocket man Nathan Chen wins gold for USA in men's singles skating.
Irene Schouten wins 5000m gold in record time for the Netherlands.
Saveh Shemshaki, an Iranian Alpine skier, is the first to fail a doping test in Beijing.
In a thrilling SBX photo finish, Alessandro Hämmerle wins another gold for Austria.
Norway's Therese Johaug wins gold in the 10km cross-country skiing.
Austria's Johannes Strolz wins the men's Alpine combined gold.
American snowboarder Chloe Kim makes history with gold in Women's snowboard half pipe.

Olympic Medal Table (Top 10)


Source: https://olympics.com/beijing-2022/olympic-games/en/results/all-sports/medal-standings.htm

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