[Banned appeal]

[kxwhalexk1]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3339476

This is my previous account:@kxwhalexk

My experience in bitcointalk is different from my experience in other forums.Before this, I was really not very familiar with the rules of the forum.So hope the mod will give me a chance, thank you.I hope the ban can be lifted,Or change the permanent ban to a ban of weeks or months.Please！

I am not a spam, nor a bounty hunter, nor a substitute account for others！

First of all, I want to thank those who are constantly looking for plagiarism cases:

@lovesmayfamilis you really inspired me a lot,
@nutildah I admit that I was very rude yesterday, I want to apologize for my rush.
@LoyceV thank you for your trust in me.

I was involved in a dispute the day before yesterday:Exposing RainbowKun and His Large Alts Army. Big farm 60+ Accs !!!

I was regarded as Rainbowkun’s alt account by Radimov.I think a large part of the reason is because I published such an article:Check out RainbowKun's article to see if forums really need depth knowledge.

I asked to check all my topics to prove that rainbowkun and I are not the same person.


step 1.
I wrote several topics during that period, summarizing and retelling what I learned recently. but did not add information sources.（Thanks loyceV for the reminder.）

I have clarified and explained these topics in LoyceV's topic：Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed

I have not been banned by the mod.I thank the reason why I am banned this time is not because of these topics.

step 2.

I want to explain：

This is my first post on the forum. At the beginning I didn’t know anything about the forum, so I clicked on the local section of China.

My first post shared a sentence I like very much. The general meaning of this sentence is to keep a calm mood when trading.Unfortunately, since there are very few people in the local sector in China, no one responded to me.I didn’t hurt anyone else because of this plagiarism.

At that time, I didn’t know that the forum had such severe punishment for plagiarism.

To the end of simplifying plagiarism accusations, let's see if this nudges any budges:

交易，真正的冷静来自于内心的平静，这种平静与对错无关，而是足够的相信自已，对的时候不浮躁，亏的时候不悲观，不断的自我修正，这更与感觉无关，当看到某个行情，就明白如何建仓，这就好比开车一样，踩刹车、打方向、看路面、盯前方，没有所谓的先后顺序，没有所谓的思考，而是一种本能反应，交易也是如何。

Google translation:

Trading, true calm comes from inner peace. This calm has nothing to do with right or wrong, but to believe in yourself enough, not impetuous when you are right, not pessimistic when you lose, and constant self-correction, which has nothing to do with feelings. When you see a certain market, you can understand how to open a position. This is like driving a car. There is no so-called order, no so-called thinking, but an instinctive reaction, and the transaction is also how it is. .

Also found here:

https://i.ibb.co/rtNNXvY/rk4.png

Translated:

Trading, true calm comes from inner peace. This calm has nothing to do with right or wrong, but to believe in yourself enough, not impetuous when you are right, not pessimistic when you lose, and constant self-correction, which has nothing to do with feelings. When you see a certain market, you can understand how to open a position. This is like driving a car. There is no so-called order, no so-called thinking, but an instinctive reaction, and the transaction is also how it is. .

So this is a direct word-for-word, untranslated copy/paste which would definitely result in a ban if written in English.

Before I wrote this post, I carefully read almost all the rules about plagiarism：
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism
[GUIDE] Plagiarism and how to avoid it.

In general, I'm all for being lenient. There are users who have been temp banned many times but still haven't been permabanned because their contributions outweigh their misbehavior. I actively disbelieve in the idea of a "rule of law" where hard rules exist and are strictly applied across the board as if we're all robots. Every case should be considered individually in the context of the forum's mission.

Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

If you treat posting as a job, a chore, then you must live in fear, since the forum is not made for you. In this case, you need to blend in as someone who actually cares, but plagiarism will immediately out you, and producing a mountain of useless posts will also eventually be noticed, if more slowly. If you do actually care, then this will be obvious in your posts (and probably your merit score), and you will have nothing to fear from moderators; even allegations of plagiarism will be doubted when seen in the context of your other posts.

After my account was blocked, I tried to find all the posts about plagiarism.

I hope the mod will give me a chance to unblock it. I am not a spam, nor a bounty hunter, nor someone else’s alt account.

This is my bpip profile:https://bpip.org/Profile?p=kxwhalexk
Date Registered:June 09, 2021, 01:04:48 AM
posts:172
activity:98
merits:173
DdmrDdmr'Bitcointalk Merit Dashboard:https://public.tableau.com/shared/XJ6F23YMH?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link
Position:Member
Trust:+1 / =0 / -0(Og gave me the first green tag.Nutildah has deleted my negative trust,thanks)
Most earned merit (after initial merit):869^TH

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869	kxwhalexk 	173	Member	6/9/2021 1:04:48 AM	28 hours	5 minutes

After nearly 3 months of bitcointalk life, I feel that I am gradually becoming familiar with the forum.

I hope the mod can give me a chance, I firmly believe that I will not make the same mistakes and make more contributions to the forum.

thanks,please.

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[LoyceV]

I hope the ban can be lifted,Or change the permanent ban to a ban of weeks or months.

Typically, if a plagiarism ban is lifted, it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature.

I wrote several topics during that period, summarizing and retelling what I learned recently. but did not add information sources.（Thanks loyceV for the reminder.）

What you should have done after my reminder was check all your previous posts, instead of waiting for someone else to find more plagiarism.

@LoyceV thank you for your trust in me.

You got this wrong, I don't trust you (or most people on Bitcointalk for that matter).

Trust:+1 / =0 / -0(Og gave me the first green tag.

Buying something from someone doesn't deserve positive feedback, because nothing was risked by the seller. It has nothing to do with the forum's feedback description: "You think that this person is unlikely to scam anyone.".

[kxwhalexk1]

Typically, if a plagiarism ban is lifted, it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature.

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of ​​participating in the autograph campaign.

My previous signature is only about my own social media

What you should have done after my reminder was check all your previous posts, instead of waiting for someone else to find more plagiarism.

Yes, this is my fault. I locked some topics, but ignored those articles that were submerged after 4-5 pages.I regret missing this opportunity.

You got this wrong, I don't trust you (or most people on Bitcointalk for that matter).

If possible, I hope to win your trust with future actions

Buying something from someone doesn't deserve positive feedback, because nothing was risked by the seller. It has nothing to do with the forum's feedback description: "You think that this person is unlikely to scam anyone.".

Okay, I will continue to slowly understand the trust system.

[UserU]

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of ​​participating in the autograph campaign.

My previous signature is only about my own social media

The exception applies if you're a very valuable contributor to the community.

But for most of the cases, plagiarism is usually permanent.

[RainbowKun]

I will raise time these days to sort out @kxwhalexk's account data for the past three months, please judge from friends on the forum:


Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

[suchmoon]

Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

Loaded question/straw man/false dilemma. Newcomers who plagiarize don't really contribute (positively as the the question implies). They make the forum a worse place. The user was not banned for contributing, the user was banned for plagiarism. And the user obviously had a choice - plagiarism is not the only way to get ahead.

That's assuming (very generously) that you are indeed a different person and not just trying to troll the shit out of this forum with a bunch of sockpuppets on your way out.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

@LoyceV thank you for your trust in me.

You got this wrong, I don't trust you (or most people on Bitcointalk for that matter).

This is what most newcomers don't understand: trust is a very fragile thing here, and speaking for myself, nobody here is a friend of mine no matter how nice I treat them.  I might respect some members and even like them, but at the end of the day I don't know anybody here in real life and every member is just an anonymous forum personality.  One slip up can lead to a neg being given or an exclusion from my trust list--and I bet I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

Typically, if a plagiarism ban is lifted, it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature.

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of ​​participating in the autograph campaign.

You'll have to accept it, if that's the outcome.  LoyceV isn't a moderator and therefore doesn't speak for the forum.  Right now you're banned and can only post in this thread (or another ban appeal thread relating to your account).

Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

Lol.  That's all I have to say to that.

[HaleyOccam]

@LoyceV thank you for your trust in me.

You got this wrong, I don't trust you (or most people on Bitcointalk for that matter).

This is what most newcomers don't understand: trust is a very fragile thing here, and speaking for myself, nobody here is a friend of mine no matter how nice I treat them.  I might respect some members and even like them, but at the end of the day I don't know anybody here in real life and every member is just an anonymous forum personality.  One slip up can lead to a neg being given or an exclusion from my trust list--and I bet I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

Typically, if a plagiarism ban is lifted, it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature.

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of ​​participating in the autograph campaign.

You'll have to accept it, if that's the outcome.  LoyceV isn't a moderator and therefore doesn't speak for the forum.  Right now you're banned and can only post in this thread (or another ban appeal thread relating to your account).

Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

Lol.  That's all I have to say to that.

This kind of chattering argument has no meaning. The Bitcoin forum is a forum without warmth.

As the pharmacist said, I have no friends. What I do is not really express my heart. I am in this forum with a mask and black eyes. It's like a prostitute. Suddenly one day I am no longer a whore. The pharmacist will say, you will always be a prostitute. Don't change, and you can't change until the priest is next to you and tells you to rest in peace.

When you speak and do things are not from your heart, I don't know if you will really consider what is most beneficial to the forum.

Since trust here is not worthwhile, and trust is a very fragile thing, what are you looking for here? Sense of presence, participation, accomplishment? You are the birthplace of the biggest lie.

I will not say anything, especially to you, my last sentence: God will forgive everyone, even a wicked person, who are you? @pharmacist.

Satoshi Nakamoto is trustworthy. The Bitcoin forum is derived from consensus. You don’t value trust. What are you doing here?@pharmacist.

Lol.  That's all I have to say to that.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

What are you doing here?@pharmacist.

One of the things is busting account farms like the one you're in, though Ratimov can take the credit for linking far more accounts than I originally came up with.

The Bitcoin forum is a forum without warmth.

If you don't like the lack of warmth, you're free to leave.  You're also free to stay, but hopefully merit sources and other members will take note of Ratimov's thread and put most, if not all, of you on ignore so you don't progress to the point of being a bounty hunter farm.

I will not say anything, especially to you, my last sentence: God will forgive everyone, even a wicked person, who are you? @pharmacist.

You just said a whole lot to me, and you can save the forgiveness for someone who needs it.  If you think I'm wicked, you've got standards that are way too high for humanity.

Oh, I just wanted to put this out there for a laugh, Haley:

If you are a woman, finding a good husband is the wealth code.
 
If you are a man, choose a good industry, such as Bitcoin (recharge your faith and hold it for a long time).

[HaleyOccam]

If you don't like the lack of warmth, you're free to leave.  You're also free to stay, but hopefully merit sources and other members will take note of Ratimov's thread and put most, if not all, of you on ignore so you don't progress to the point of being a bounty hunter farm.

Take me home ,country road.

Your ridicule can't stop me from moving forward, John Denver, a soul singer who specializes in architecture (the ridicule made him a country music star). One can be confident, but arrogance is a shame.

You only represent yourself, you think too much.

[nutildah]

You should probably consider taking your own advice:

There is no need for an actor here, and you will not get an Oscar statuette here.

You are bad faith actor, along with your horde of new "pals." You and RainbowKun are obviously trying to manipulate the forum. For what reason, we don't know yet exactly but we imagine it will (or would have) manifested itself pretty soon.

Nothing about anything you do is natural human behavior. That's why you caught our attention.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a high IQ geek from the encryption and decryption club.

Google translated from this article, titled "How to Evaluate Satoshi Nakamoto":

A highly intelligent geek from the encryption and decryption club,

I have a feeling that if I understood Chinese a lot more of you would be banned by now.

WTF is the "encryption and decryption club" anyway?

[Pmalek]

I have not been banned by the mod.I thank the reason why I am banned this time is not because of these topics.

The admins know the exact reason that you got banned and the report/reports filled against you. If they want, they will reply here with more info about what got you banned.

Users can get banned years after they posted something that was copy/pasted. So the fact that you wrote some posts, they remained visible for a long time, doesn't mean that you got banned for one of your most recent posts. In theory, it can be the first one you ever wrote. Admins usually react and assess reports sent by other forum members. If there is no report against you, no actions will be taken my admins most of the time.   

[RainbowKun]

You should probably consider taking your own advice:

There is no need for an actor here, and you will not get an Oscar statuette here.

You are bad faith actor, along with your horde of new "pals." You and RainbowKun are obviously trying to manipulate the forum. For what reason, we don't know yet exactly but we imagine it will (or would have) manifested itself pretty soon.

Nothing about anything you do is natural human behavior. That's why you caught our attention.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a high IQ geek from the encryption and decryption club.

Google translated from this article, titled "How to Evaluate Satoshi Nakamoto":

A highly intelligent geek from the encryption and decryption club,

I have a feeling that if I understood Chinese a lot more of you would be banned by now.

WTF is the "encryption and decryption club" anyway?

No one wants to control the forum, and no one can control the forum. Everyone has independent free will, and everyone has independent judgment. In these two months, I spent almost all of my energy on writing, perfecting my philosophical thinking. I don't want to be an enemy with anyone, I just want to have a wide range of friends.

[kxwhalexk1]

The admins know the exact reason that you got banned and the report/reports filled against you. If they want, they will reply here with more info about what got you banned.

Users can get banned years after they posted something that was copy/pasted. So the fact that you wrote some posts, they remained visible for a long time, doesn't mean that you got banned for one of your most recent posts. In theory, it can be the first one you ever wrote. Admins usually react and assess reports sent by other forum members. If there is no report against you, no actions will be taken my admins most of the time.  

Yes, I focused on the rules about plagiarism before I posted a topic.

Posts are reported to moderators who check out the report. If the poster needs to be banned, the moderator sends a ban report up to a global mod or admin. The global mod or admin handles all of the ban reports they get at around the same time. Either the admins or global mods don't need to check every account because they trust the moderators to have already done so, or they check quickly because every such report contains references and links to the plagiarism post and to the source text so checking takes little time.

I found this post. So I hope mod or admins can re-check my account if they can see this topic.

Thank you for your reply, let me know more about the rules of the forum.

Loaded question/straw man/false dilemma. Newcomers who plagiarize don't really contribute (positively as the the question implies). They make the forum a worse place. The user was not banned for contributing, the user was banned for plagiarism. And the user obviously had a choice - plagiarism is not the only way to get ahead.

That's assuming (very generously) that you are indeed a different person and not just trying to troll the shit out of this forum with a bunch of sockpuppets on your way out.

sir, I don’t think my post has made the forum worse.My allegedly plagiarized post is my first post.

It was posted in the Chinese local section. Unfortunately, because there are very few people in the Chinese section, I didn’t even get a reply after 3 months.That topic has been deleted so far. I can't give you the link.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Satoshi Nakamoto is a high IQ geek from the encryption and decryption club.

Google translated from this article, titled "How to Evaluate Satoshi Nakamoto":

A highly intelligent geek from the encryption and decryption club,

I have a feeling that if I understood Chinese a lot more of you would be banned by now.

Oh, spot-on my man!!!  Did you report that post or what?  Also, if anyone with some plagiarism-detecting skills far greater than mine could take a look at HaleyOccam's posts, you'd be doing the forum a big favor.  I've got him/her on ignore (and I'd advise anyone who thinks Ratimov's alt ring thread is accurate to do likewise), but I'd rather not even see that account posting anywhere.  And my guess is that the rot runs deep, i.e., if the main account got busted for plagiarism then the others are probably guilty of it as well.

sir, I don’t think my post has made the forum worse.My allegedly plagiarized post is my first post.
<snip excuses>

Yeah, if your posts were your own they might have been good and might have deserved all the merits that were unfortunately scammed from users like me and plenty of others.  The fact is that you used other people's material multiple times and only added references after you got an extremely kind warning.

[Jazmin Leslie]

From the perspective of a novice, I think your contribution is much better than many people,I am sad to see your account is banned, I feel that the forum now seems to be constrained by a kind of public opinion.
I read you The historical posts of, your content proves that you are indeed a person who loves to learn, and your mistake is a mistake that many novices will accidentally make when they just enter the forum. If your account does not succeed in the appeal, I suggest you leave it. In addition to this,It is not necessarily only this forum that will give you value.

[LoyceV]

My allegedly plagiarized post is my first post.

It was posted in the Chinese local section. Unfortunately, because there are very few people in the Chinese section, I didn’t even get a reply after 3 months.That topic has been deleted so far. I can't give you the link.

I've archived the topic in which you made your first post: loyce.club/archive/topics/534/5342690.html.

[Lucius]

I found this post. So I hope mod or admins can re-check my account if they can see this topic.

The forum has only two admins, and since I have been on the forum (6 years), I have only witnessed once that one admin has publicly commented on the perma ban he has personally removed (bill gator case). So forget about admins who certainly don't deal with things like this, and also mods that can't remove your ban - only global mods can. Your case is under the jurisdiction of global mods, or rather in the hands of one of them who is most active on the forum.

[tranthidung]

The forum has only two admins, and since I have been on the forum (6 years), I have only witnessed once that one admin has publicly commented on the perma ban he has personally removed (bill gator case). So forget about admins who certainly don't deal with things like this, and also mods that can't remove your ban - only global mods can. Your case is under the jurisdiction of global mods, or rather in the hands of one of them who is most active on the forum.

Very limited bans because of plagiarism were handled later with softer restrictions (signature ban for 6 months, 1 year, 2 years) and temporary account ban.

Ban appeal needs time to be handled by global moderators or admins (rarely). First, they need to be online. Second, they have to go through reports, post history, checking for plagiarism on their sides. Second chance will be applied after very in-depth and careful investigation.

OP has to be very patient about this ban appeal. Make noise does not help. Being too hurry does not help. Your ban appeal topic is enough and you can bump it every 24 hours.

[Pmalek]

The forum has only two admins, and since I have been on the forum (6 years), I have only witnessed once that one admin has publicly commented on the perma ban he has personally removed...

It wasn't an admin in ReguluHr's case, but global mod hilariousandco made a short post when he unbanned ReguluHr after almost two years or waiting.

I unbanned it.

I don't remember ChiBitCTy's case and if there even was a ban appeal thread. But he was another valuable member that got banned and later pardoned.