[SCAM] Stake.com trying to scam!

[savetheFORUM]

That is, in your opinion, it is absolutely normal that they let me make a deposit with a different name, but they don’t give me money to withdraw? From the point of view of humanity, is it okay to forbid me to withdraw even my deposit?! When my KYC is passed (in my humble opinion). This is a racketeering, in fact, to give money and prohibit withdrawing. What can we say about getting a winnings? After this situation, I hardly believe in it.

It's not ok to try to pass KYC with a fake name is what I'm trying to say, but in the light of what other users said above about "eddie" encouraging to use fake names, I'd agree that you should get at least your deposit back.

Just to clarify, Eddie or Edward does not encourage or appreciate the use of fake information for KYC. That said, stake officially made the statement that players CAN change their data at a later date if required.

I don't understand why stake is playing tricks. If they believe a user has cheated in any way, just tell him the reason and end it. Playing behind KYC and then once provided, making other stories is making them look bad.

@Denpatrick71 do you have more than 1 account at stake? Be careful what you say because you already made a mistake by entering wrong details earlier/

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[Denpatrick71]

Just to clarify, Eddie or Edward does not encourage or appreciate the use of fake information for KYC. That said, stake officially made the statement that players CAN change their data at a later date if required.

I don't understand why stake is playing tricks. If they believe a user has cheated in any way, just tell him the reason and end it. Playing behind KYC and then once provided, making other stories is making them look bad.

@Denpatrick71 do you have more than 1 account at stake? Be careful what you say because you already made a mistake by entering wrong details earlier/

Hi! Of course, I have only 1 account, and I am 100% sure of this - I live alone and no one except me has access to my PC. If at least theoretically there was a possibility of crossing over IP or using one computer by friends - I wouldn't create such a thread.

P.S. Reg. KYC, my opinion - it's more clearly and conveniently show to the customers all requirements to using account and check information BEFORE deposit will be available.

Thus, the rules won't be violated, and the players won't get into such situations as I do (and I agree that my fault is in this too).

[alphabet22]

Just to clarify, Eddie or Edward does not encourage or appreciate the use of fake information for KYC. That said, stake officially made the statement that players CAN change their data at a later date if required.

I don't understand why stake is playing tricks. If they believe a user has cheated in any way, just tell him the reason and end it. Playing behind KYC and then once provided, making other stories is making them look bad.

@Denpatrick71 do you have more than 1 account at stake? Be careful what you say because you already made a mistake by entering wrong details earlier/

Hi! Of course, I have only 1 account, and I am 100% sure of this - I live alone and no one except me has access to my PC. If at least theoretically there was a possibility of crossing over IP or using one computer by friends - I wouldn't create such a thread.

P.S. Reg. KYC, my opinion - it's more clearly and conveniently show to the customers all requirements to using account and check information BEFORE deposit will be available.

Thus, the rules won't be violated, and the players won't get into such situations as I do (and I agree that my fault is in this too).

I think you gave them
Enough time and no reply. .
You should flag them I will support the flag.
It's surely tricks they are playing

[Denpatrick71]

I think you gave them
Enough time and no reply. .
You should flag them I will support the flag.
It's surely tricks they are playing

How can I "flag" them? What should I do?

[Denpatrick71]

Almost 1 month from KYC and nobody contact me from Stake.com...
For this reason Stunna flagged:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2830

[LoyceV]

The fact is that during registration you don't fill in anything except the name, and I thought it was purely a formality.

When I try to register, Stake.com asks for a username, email address and date of birth. It doesn't ask for my name anywhere. I wouldn't give my real name in a crypto casino either. In crypto, I am Loyce Valenzuela, born February 26, 2015. Most sites are okay with that, but I'd never go through KYC.

I contacted them via live-chat with the same question - there they already told me ANOTHER REASON - MULTI ACCOUNTING!

This is actually the same as they told you earlier, when they said you "violated paragraph 5.1":

5. Prohibited Uses

    PERSONAL USE. The Service is intended solely for the User’s personal use. The User is only allowed to wager for his/her personal entertainment. Users may not create multiple accounts for the purpose of collusion, sports betting and/or abuse of service. Multiple accounts may be approved for the use of the casino service only if granted by staff.

Or is this bookmaker's scam just beginning?

I think that's very unlikely. Stake/Stunna is one of the few sites/guys I trust, and I don't think they're low on cash.

https://imgur.com/a/YIw5nmT

They are contradicting themselves:

Anonymity is important to us ~ Can you please complete the KYC process

For this reason Stunna flagged:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2830

To Support a Flag, I'd like to be able to independently verify the evidence. In this case that's not possible.

[Denpatrick71]

When I try to register, Stake.com asks for a username, email address and date of birth. It doesn't ask for my name anywhere. I wouldn't give my real name in a crypto casino either. In crypto, I am Loyce Valenzuela, born February 26, 2015. Most sites are okay with that, but I'd never go through KYC.

- Yep, but when I tried to deposit they asked about name and date of birth.

I think that's very unlikely. Stake/Stunna is one of the few sites/guys I trust, and I don't think they're low on cash.

Considering that almost a month has passed, and no one has contacted me, it means that they are sure that such a decision is fair...

They are contradicting themselves:

Anonymity is important to us ~ Can you please complete the KYC process

Yep.

To Support a Flag, I'd like to be able to independently verify the evidence. In this case that's not possible.

This is the main problem. What else can I prove from my side?

[shasan]

Hi! I submitted my documents as soon as I wake up, with no delay. I'm agree with KYC before withdrawal and I sent my documents, but for some reason (firstly "details not matched" and then "multiaccounting") they just ignore me.

I have got your point and point of them too. According to you, you have submitted the perfect document at 2nd time while for the first time you have provided wrong information. I do not think there had any problems for that. But I think you have created multi account knowingly or unknowingly.

[Denpatrick71]

I have got your point and point of them too. According to you, you have submitted the perfect document at 2nd time while for the first time you have provided wrong information. I do not think there had any problems for that. But I think you have created multi account knowingly or unknowingly.

How it's possible unknowingly: I have only 1 TRX wallet and no one else used my PC last month :/

[shasan]

I have got your point and point of them too. According to you, you have submitted the perfect document at 2nd time while for the first time you have provided wrong information. I do not think there had any problems for that. But I think you have created multi account knowingly or unknowingly.

How it's possible unknowingly: I have only 1 TRX wallet and no one else used my PC last month :/

It may happen for other wallet. I man you may use other wallet for example, dogecoin, ethereum, litecoin and so on. Also you are saying no one has used your pc for last month but it might be used longer ago then last months. They may trace for a long period of times.

[Denpatrick71]

It may happen for other wallet. I man you may use other wallet for example, dogecoin, ethereum, litecoin and so on. Also you are saying no one has used your pc for last month but it might be used longer ago then last months. They may trace for a long period of times.

Hi! The problem is that I can assure you that for the last six months, and for the last year, and for 2 years, no one could use my computer except me, because it is under a password.

And please note, no one told me which accounts were used from my computer. No one has provided any evidence. And I am completely sure that this is my only account. At 100%.

Moreover, I think that if the real reason really was multiaccounting, they would have blocked the account and sent the deposit back, and here they don't allow me to withdraw my own funds, which once again indirectly confirms the scam. And we both (me and stake) knows that message about multiaccountin - it's lie.

[alphabet22]

I have got your point and point of them too. According to you, you have submitted the perfect document at 2nd time while for the first time you have provided wrong information. I do not think there had any problems for that. But I think you have created multi account knowingly or unknowingly.

How it's possible unknowingly: I have only 1 TRX wallet and no one else used my PC last month :/

It may happen for other wallet. I man you may use other wallet for example, dogecoin, ethereum, litecoin and so on. Also you are saying no one has used your pc for last month but it might be used longer ago then last months. They may trace for a long period of times.

Shasan you keep defending and giving excuses to stake.
Do You have evidence the guy has multiple accounts?;l in many replies he said no . Beside stake themselves has no evidence and they didn't reply him .
It's strange you want to defend them while they in the wrong.  If they are right at least they can show the logs or ips they said it's linked

If you have no evidence to defend stake better shut up you make your self looks like a joke.

[shasan]

I have got your point and point of them too. According to you, you have submitted the perfect document at 2nd time while for the first time you have provided wrong information. I do not think there had any problems for that. But I think you have created multi account knowingly or unknowingly.

How it's possible unknowingly: I have only 1 TRX wallet and no one else used my PC last month :/

It may happen for other wallet. I man you may use other wallet for example, dogecoin, ethereum, litecoin and so on. Also you are saying no one has used your pc for last month but it might be used longer ago then last months. They may trace for a long period of times.

Shasan you keep defending and giving excuses to stake.
Do You have evidence the guy has multiple accounts?;l in many replies he said no . Beside stake themselves has no evidence and they didn't reply him .
It's strange you want to defend them while they in the wrong.  If they are right at least they can show the logs or ips they said it's linked

If you have no evidence to defend stake better shut up you make your self looks like a joke.

Yes, I am still on the side of stake.com cause it seems to me fair to stay on that side. I am not anyone who has any parts on the stake also I am not fond of stake.com also, I have just an account on there. I do not play on there but according to the post it seems the person has broken their rules. As I am not a part of the site, I have no proof. Also, I am trying to say how it may happen. Also, directly I have not taking part of stake.

[Denpatrick71]

Hello everyone...
Today I logged into my account and found that my balance is ZERO. I understand that I can't get my own money back, and all I have left is about $50. I warned Stake that they had chosen the wrong person to steal from, because with Covid-19 in our family, I was the only one who could work. Recently, I was fired, and I really can't provide for my family.
Therefore, this is my last message, but not only on the forum, but also in life. Thank you, stake. The world will answer you the same for your greed and cold-bloodedness, that you take advantage of the fact that you can steal money like this with impunity. If not you, then your children will answer for it.
Goodbye.

P.S. I will definitely mention Stake in my suicide note...

[shasan]

Hello everyone...
Today I logged into my account and found that my balance is ZERO. I understand that I can't get my own money back, and all I have left is about $50. I warned Stake that they had chosen the wrong person to steal from, because with Covid-19 in our family, I was the only one who could work. Recently, I was fired, and I really can't provide for my family.
Therefore, this is my last message, but not only on the forum, but also in life. Thank you, stake. The world will answer you the same for your greed and cold-bloodedness, that you take advantage of the fact that you can steal money like this with impunity. If not you, then your children will answer for it.
Goodbye.

P.S. I will definitely mention Stake in my suicide note...

You are a fool or greedy person. Otherwise I have never seen any person who has bet the last amount which can be for the afford of their last food. You did a great mistake by gambling with the money which was for the survival of your family. I also place bet but with only those amount which I can afford if I loss.

[Denpatrick71]

Still relevant :/
Scam sh....t

[robelneo]

P.S. I will definitely mention Stake in my suicide note...

Hi, welcome back to Bitcointalk good to know that you move on and forgotten about the suicide well I hope you realize that there is still life after what happened to your account on Stake, Covid is manageable now you can back to work or you are working now, you can now provide for your family forget about gambling for now because you are gambling within your means, it's not good for someone like you who has a tendency to commit suicide.

Still relevant :/
Scam sh....t

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Still relevant :/
Scam sh....t

I am sure sorry about your loss mate, but understand that this whole shit is definitely your fault, online platforms, most especially casinos are not places where one should feel careless when creating account, casinos regardless of their good reputation are always ready to take your money away from you if you go against their rule, and here, you gave stake the chance to take your money and they happily did.

Stake is not a scam casino and I personally wish they gave you the chance to explain yourself well, and possibly gave you a second chance, but then, not every one get the opportunity of a second chance after making a costly mistake, uploading a document that does not tally with your account information is where this whole mayhem began from, and this is your mistake, though you have concluded that the money is gone, I still implore stake to please look into the matter and pass justice with mercy.

[Saint-loup]

Hi, welcome back to Bitcointalk good to know that you move on and forgotten about the suicide well I hope you realize that there is still life after what happened to your account on Stake, Covid is manageable now you can back to work or you are working now, you can now provide for your family forget about gambling for now because you are gambling within your means, it's not good for someone like you who has a tendency to commit suicide.

You've misread him IMO, he didn't tell he stopped gambling, he said the bookie has still not paid his winnings neither give him back his own deposited funds till now. Fortunately decentralized sportsbooks without KYC and funds custody are growing fast, and will compete with those dishonest sportsbooks very soon IMO, because nobody likes being likely to be scammed once he manages to win risky bets. And even if scammed customers find a safe place to bet I don't think they will forget their stolen funds, so it's also a risky game for scammers.

[robelneo]

Hi, welcome back to Bitcointalk good to know that you move on and forgotten about the suicide well I hope you realize that there is still life after what happened to your account on Stake, Covid is manageable now you can back to work or you are working now, you can now provide for your family forget about gambling for now because you are gambling within your means, it's not good for someone like you who has a tendency to commit suicide.

You've misread him IMO, he didn't tell he stopped gambling, he said the bookie has still not paid his winnings neither give him back his own deposited funds till now. Fortunately decentralized sportsbooks without KYC and funds custody are growing fast, and will compete with those dishonest sportsbooks very soon IMO, because nobody likes being likely to be scammed once he manages to win risky bets. And even if scammed customers find a safe place to bet I don't think they will forget their stolen funds, so it's also a risky game for scammers.

Yeah I know, that he didn't get paid that is why I included his quote, if he gets paid the title would have been changed to resolved

Still relevant :/
Scam sh....t

I welcome him because he did not consider suicide

Hello everyone...

P.S. I will definitely mention Stake in my suicide note...

And perhaps realized that there's more to life than going for this, I even encouraged him to look for his family, yes it hurts if you think you got scammed even though you know you are right, I don't know who is right or wrong here, I just encourage OP to never consider suicide.