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September 13, 2021, 01:24:21 PM
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On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.

I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.

https://www.roulettesites.org/blog/responsible-gambling/underage-gambling.php

Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?





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September 13, 2021, 01:29:49 PM
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IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
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September 13, 2021, 01:48:49 PM
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What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
KYC, but they can still use fake ID or their brothers/parents' ID, so there's no 100% effective method. Even with video verification, they can pass with fake ID + rather old face.
I think we have to live with it, same case with beer and cigarette, it's up to the parents to teach/monitor their children. Teens have this unstoppable curiosity, and it's not fair to put the burden on the casino.

As long as the advertisement is for 18+ (late night or via google/youtube age verification) and KYC, I don't think there's more to do.

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September 13, 2021, 01:58:17 PM
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By browsing the internet now with ease even this can be done by anyone so there is no 100% good solution in this case except the war of parental influence is also important if you want to take part in this section, almost all minors have held android phones and of course they will receive a notification from the browser at least there is a gambling ad that allows it to be clicked later.
So by minimizing the occurrence for minors, I think KYC is still quite effective, although now it can be faked, but I believe this will reduce the increase in underage gamblers.

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September 13, 2021, 02:12:05 PM
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It's the parents that should be the first line of defense when it comes to this kind of stuff, they're the closest to the kid so that means that they can monitor what they do, some might say that you're invading their privacy but it's a good parenting to monitor their online activities because you want what's best for them.

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September 13, 2021, 02:35:56 PM
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Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Why its look like end up to you that gambling companies should take the blame?

Gambling is part of the society we lived in. You are looking for solutions that can't be control unless the whole country banned gambling. Advertisements are also everywhere so we can't control it.

Just raise awareness about gambling on your known underage people or if you see someone got involved in gambling in early age.

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September 13, 2021, 02:58:53 PM
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... What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

You either lock them up in the house without exposure to TV and devices with access to the internet or don't give them any money. It sounds extreme but I really do not see other ways to prevent someone from gambling. You can educate them about the risks of gambling but most of them will still gamble online or offline anyway.
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September 13, 2021, 03:28:18 PM
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It's the parents that should be the first line of defense when it comes to this kind of stuff, they're the closest to the kid so that means that they can monitor what they do, some might say that you're invading their privacy but it's a good parenting to monitor their online activities because you want what's best for them.
The majority of parents nowadays are too busy working and don't care about their children's online activities
things like this have been discussed before and to be honest I agree with gambling sites that require KYC (if their goal is to control gamblers at a young age)

Becoming a gambling addict at a young age will hinder the study of these children, so those who have children immediately supervise your child's daily activities, especially their smartphone that you give

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September 13, 2021, 03:33:37 PM
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They have to understand the fact that it's not just the responsibility of parents but the site as well, but the site cannot really ask people about their personal information since this would actually cause more probelms, they would actually cause a probelm with their privacy settings. See the solution is everyone working together and also teaching the kids about the whole thing for sure, If you do see your kid having a gambling probelm, then you talk about it, you take them to psychiatrists, it's should never be taken lightly for sure, it can spoil their life forever in the future.
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September 13, 2021, 03:35:28 PM
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On the notification panel of my android device and that of many other devices of people in my locale that i have come across, I noticed too many pop up ads about one gambling site or the other, which with a click, you will find yourself in the interface of an online casino or betting site asking for you to sign up and get huge bonuses, I also observed that when using the chrome browser on my cell phone to surf some websites on the internet, I am forcefully redirected to some gambling and betting websites that opens up on the tab as well.
No worries about it, because the reason why ads about gambling are the one shows on your screen is because it uses the data of your browsers. So the thing you must worry about is not to use a kids devices for gambling so it will not show any gambling ads. Probably that ads will show to a child is all about toys and things about kids.

It's very concerning and parents should be responsible on those devices if ever they're gambling, so the child can't get any idea what is gambling through ads.
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September 13, 2021, 03:37:41 PM
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IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
Exactly. Facebook, Youtube, search engines on your mobile phones have the same algorithm and that's a fact. If an underage is too concerned about the mobile gaming things then the stuff they'll be seeing was more onto gamings or other stuff they recently viewed or looked for. Unless there's a scenario where a child use to borrow the phone of the parent and they are that into gambling, that's a different thing and that should be guided.

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September 13, 2021, 03:40:00 PM
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KYC solution but people hate KYC ~XD.

There is no solution anymore for this topic except of "KYC", always ask KYC before they can use/play/deposit some money. That's the only way to know, anyway about underage gamble. IMO, most of them will play on game gamble website like (CSGO/DOTA) it's pretty rare for user who just 14/15/16 using credit card/crypto or deposit bank to be gamble.

CSGO Gamble could be have the higher chance for underage trying to gamble his skin and turnout into a money, since CSGO streamer sometimes promoted CSGO gamble website.

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I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

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September 13, 2021, 03:57:01 PM
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What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Though this may backfire on the side of the online gambling website, submitting/requiring KYC documents during the registration is one way in order to combat online underaged gamblers. But then again, most people avoid gambling websites that require KYC and this would definitely take a toll on the player base of a gambling website, thus, I do not see this happening in the near future.

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog"  Cheesy
I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

I agree with your statement. I think the curiosity of a child does wonders but they must be properly guided and briefed by their parents about gambling and its potential harm to one's future.
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September 13, 2021, 05:26:15 PM
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What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?

Though this may backfire on the side of the online gambling website, submitting/requiring KYC documents during the registration is one way in order to combat online underaged gamblers. But then again, most people avoid gambling websites that require KYC and this would definitely take a toll on the player base of a gambling website, thus, I do not see this happening in the near future.

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I think that this problem cannot be solved without total surveillance of users - this option is unacceptable, so the old proven option remains - this is the concern of the parents. Both by law and by common sense, parents are responsible for their children, so they must solve this problem.

I agree with your statement. I think the curiosity of a child does wonders but they must be properly guided and briefed by their parents about gambling and its potential harm to one's future.

Most fiat-based casinos if not all, require KYC from their players. Unless, the kid uses his parents' credit/debit cards to get in.
So this problem maybe more on crypto casinos since they are not requiring KYC as of now.
Aside from the fact that crypto is getting popular these days owed also to Play-to-Earn games.
More than likely, some underaged users/gamers will encounter these P2E gaming platforms and so these crypto casinos.
But as you said, the child has always curiosity on these things, and the upbringing will come into play in these crucial stages of the child.
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September 13, 2021, 05:38:35 PM
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IMHO, Ads popping on android device or even on google is a targeted ads which means you will never receive it unless you are browsing same website or anything about gambling which an underage user that doesn't visit gambling will never receive that kind of ads if they never play gambling on there device.
Adblocking and ad appropriation isn't the first line of defense for children being introduced to gambling, it's the parents that should be the first line of defense, they're the one that should guide them since they can see what their kid does first hand.
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September 13, 2021, 05:50:28 PM
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Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?


Underage gambling is a real issue! I am sure even gambling houses do not pay much attention because it is a source of revenue for them. With cryptocurrency, it has become even more easier for the underage gamblers to play in online casinos because they do not require to share kyc data.

There is no immediate solution available from technical viewpoint. Parental monitoring softwares can be a possible solution but there are ways to bypass them as well. Children who are gambling at young age, would know how to bypass them. So it boils down the responsibility to their parents who needs to be vigilant about their children's online activities.

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Just like pornographic sites, I don't think online gambling sites and casino's can fully checkmate underaged users that sign up, and as a result, unfortunately i see the number of underaged gamblers worldwide to increase significantly by October this year.

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?


Saying gambling sites should "fully" checkmate underage players and I can't help but wonder how they'd be able to do that. Even with strict KYC, it's near possible to completely prevent such from happening as young, underage people will still patronize those platforms at the end of the day. What we need is proper orientation on the risks and dangers that comes with gambling for underage. Maybe incorporating it in school curriculum would go a long way but not completely eradicate the problem.

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September 13, 2021, 06:03:16 PM
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Saying gambling sites should "fully" checkmate underage players and I can't help but wonder how they'd be able to do that. Even with strict KYC, it's near possible to completely prevent such from happening as young, underage people will still patronize those platforms at the end of the day. What we need is proper orientation on the risks and dangers that comes with gambling for underage. Maybe incorporating it in school curriculum would go a long way but not completely eradicate the problem.
I don't think it's a good idea, let the existing curriculum run as usual...

What I'm afraid of is that when education about the dangers of gambling is included in the learning curriculum, children become more and more curious about gambling. around my home, there are very few minors who play gambling because they are busy playing online games. Keeping kids busy with their games is probably the best way to keep them away from gambling.

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September 13, 2021, 06:38:43 PM
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I'm concerned for the underaged and how easy these things have become so exposed to them. I did a little research as to the statistics of underaged gamblers for last year, and according to an article, "39% of 11-16-year olds have bet their own money" as at when published in October 2020.
I would like to see a real case of 11 years old kid gambling. It seems really unlikely for me. Maybe these statistics are mixing gambling at casinos and friendly "betting" with friends or relatives at home or school. The second situation isn't an issue at all and there is no way to avoid underage people to bet in some events of their daily routine for fun. I remember when I was at middle school students organized a betting pool in the world cup results and we bet small amounts of money just for fun. Would we also be included in these statistics and punished by the law?

What are your thoughts?, What are the possible solutions to the problem of the rising number of online underaged gamblers?
It's parents' duty to take care the mental health of their children. If they are showing symptoms of addiction, parents must identify the cause of the problem and fight it back. But the rest of the world can't forbid an activity from being advertised just because few individuals can't handle it properly.

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