Charles-Tim merit source application + Nigerian local board

[SamReomo]

I think Charles-Tim is a very competent member of the board and I wholeheartedly support him to become a merit source. A user like Charles-Tim could be a very useful merit source for that local board because he is already generous with the users of the board, and wants to help the active users of the board. I hope that during upcoming adjustment theymos will consider the application of Charles-Tim, and would accept him as a merit source.

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

Every time I post in one of these application threads (and I've already posted in this one), I wonder what Theymos's plans are as far as adding new merit sources, whether he thinks there's enough merits circulating, and basically what's on his mind with respect to the merit system in general.

And then Charles-Tim's application gets bumped after nearly two years--that implies that unless there's a serious problem with members not ranking up as fast as they should, Big Boss probably isn't going to add any new sources.  Too bad, because there have been some good members applying to be sources and it's hard to believe there aren't some sources that need to be replaced for whatever reason.

Theymos, can ya come on down from the mountain and drop some knowledge on us? 

[Zanab247]

I guess your request will surely be granted, for you to be a merit source because your active and contribution to the progress in the local board and other forum really make you qualify, which I know theymos will surely respond to your application this time around because he is a type of person that pay attention to things like this, and I believe he will give you answer that will sweet your mind this time.

[_BlackStar]

Every time I post in one of these application threads (and I've already posted in this one), I wonder what Theymos's plans are as far as adding new merit sources, whether he thinks there's enough merits circulating, and basically what's on his mind with respect to the merit system in general.

I think there are several criteria that theymos expect before he makes someone into a new merit source. I'll admit that Charles-Tim fits that criteria - but his habit of tending to distribute merit among familiar users with good reputations probably didn't really help the community get more merit flowing among lower ranked users. But honestly that's not the case - especially since anyone can send merit to anyone regardless of rank.

I'm curious about some of the criteria to be easy to become a merit source - of course about additional criteria that may not be mentioned publicly. Charles-Tim has posted 1922 merit 1723 times, to 217 profile based on bpip - that's a good statistic although I think the profile range is too low. My guess is probably right - theymos want a merit source that tends to help lower ranked communities that have quality posts versus focusing on distributing merit to highly reputable users most of whom are merit sources.

The Skeptical Chymist - someone like with your habits might be more to be expected than Charles-Tim - but I hope I'm wrong. It all depends on each user's activity patterns - but I'm sure something I said might fall under one of those criteria. But to be honest - I hope Charles-Tim can be a merit source in the future - so he can help more users especially on the boards he frequents.

[Charles-Tim]

Every time I post in one of these application threads (and I've already posted in this one), I wonder what Theymos's plans are as far as adding new merit sources, whether he thinks there's enough merits circulating, and basically what's on his mind with respect to the merit system in general.

I think there are several criteria that theymos expect before he makes someone into a new merit source. I'll admit that Charles-Tim fits that criteria - but his habit of tending to distribute merit among familiar users with good reputations probably didn't really help the community get more merit flowing among lower ranked users.

If I want to be a merit source, I want to have a responsibility to distribute merits to quality posts on this forum. If people send me merits, I can decide to send all to only one person or anyone that I like. I can even decide to hoard it. That is the difference.

My guess is probably right - theymos want a merit source that tends to help lower ranked communities that have quality posts versus focusing on distributing merit to highly reputable users most of whom are merit sources.

Theymos needs merit sources that can send merit to quality posts (be it low rank or high rank). If the way I merit people now make you think I will not focus on low rank members, your assumption is completely wrong.

[uchegod-21]

Every time I post in one of these application threads (and I've already posted in this one), I wonder what Theymos's plans are as far as adding new merit sources, whether he thinks there's enough merits circulating, and basically what's on his mind with respect to the merit system in general.

I think there are several criteria that theymos expect before he makes someone into a new merit source. I'll admit that Charles-Tim fits that criteria - but his habit of tending to distribute merit among familiar users with good reputations probably didn't really help the community get more merit flowing among lower ranked users. But honestly that's not the case - especially since anyone can send merit to anyone regardless of rank.

I believe the behaviour of a user with his/her earned merits will be different with allocated merits. That idea that your smerit box will be refilled every month will give you the confidence to go extra mile in disbursing merits only to worthy users.
I have seen where theymos emphasised that only quality posts should be merited. If you are to send 50merits to one worthy post, it's better than distributing the 50 merits to 50 non quality posts. Although merits sources also use their discretion.

We had always said about lower-ranked and higher ranked users but failed to identify another set of users. I mean users like me. I am not an exceptional forum user and I am not also so bad that I don't deserve merits. But seeing Hero in my rank and with your insinuations, merit sources have avoided me for so long, no matter how hard I try. It could be that I am already a Hero Member and I don't need further growth.
The merit system is not ideal, but it is serving to an extent. If theymos can grant more sources, it will be fine.

[Fiatless]

If I want to be a merit source, I want to have a responsibility to distribute merits to quality posts on this forum. If people send me merits, I can decide to send all to only one person or anyone that I like. I can even decide to hoard it. That is the difference.

I support your quest to be a merit source @Charles-Tim because even if you focus more on the technical board you are an active member in other boards. I know you are also active in Beginners and Help and Bitcoin discussion. As you said becoming a merit source is a responsibility so you are under obligation to distribute it to quality posts but giving out earned merit is a choice.

Theymos needs merit sources that can send merit to quality posts (be it low rank or high rank). If the way I merit people now make you think I will not focus on low rank members, your assumption is completely wrong.

You are a respected and reputable member of the forum and you deserve to be on the list. I don't doubt your ability to identify and merit deserving posts. We hope that you will give more attention to reading the post of low-ranking members and visit boards that lack merit sources frequently.This is because if you read them closely, you will discover that some of them are not that bad.

I totally support your application sir.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I do not want to create another thread for merit source application for local board, this is the reason I am posting about it on the thread that I have used to apply for merit source before.

I am applying for merit source for Nigeria (Naija) local board.

From the looks of things I think you should create a new topic and add that you want to be a merit source for the Nigerian board on the title. I have written theymos severally for an increase of my merit source but his reply has always been the forum doesn't need new source but our board need merits. I can't be the only source there and among one of the low sources. What I have is barely enough for the board and i was expecting one of the reputed users on our local board to apply and I didn't write anybody because I wanted it to be a voluntary act and I'm glad it's coming from you because you understand what quality is and will be a good source for the board.

As you can see you quoted some of my post in your application and there are many more that don't get the merit it deserves because I'm the only source there and I can't merit myself (joking) others too aren't obligated to merit me. I spent my time on the board without receiving any merit which is just discouraging but still I write there because I enjoy communicating with people that understand what we're passing through in Nigeria. Your previous application wasn't given attention by theymos don't let this opportunity for we to have a local merit source get lost in your former application. Create a new one with focused on the Nigerian board (that's move your new application to a new thread and lock this one). I won't have noticed you applied to be a source if I wasn't quoted. I wish you luck and do this so we can come support you for theymos to reason with us.

[_BlackStar]

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If I want to be a merit source, I want to have a responsibility to distribute merits to quality posts on this forum. If people send me merits, I can decide to send all to only one person or anyone that I like. I can even decide to hoard it. That is the difference.

Yeah - let's just assume I knew about that, mate.
Every user who applies to become a merit source is basically willing to assume responsibility for distributing merit on quality posts. So of course there has to be a difference between merit source and non merit source users - especially in terms of the habits.

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Theymos needs merit sources that can send merit to quality posts (be it low rank or high rank). If the way I merit people now make you think I will not focus on low rank members, your assumption is completely wrong.

Of course you could say I'm dead wrong about that assumption - but I believe that you can change the habit to be as expected. I'm just curious about some additional criteria - that includes the user's habit of distributing merit. But please don't get me wrong - I'm not attacking you, it's just an assumption.

[NeuroticFish]

Every time I post in one of these application threads (and I've already posted in this one), I wonder what Theymos's plans are as far as adding new merit sources, whether he thinks there's enough merits circulating, and basically what's on his mind with respect to the merit system in general.

I think that adding new merit sources now and then is pretty much a must. Maybe 2 years ago the number was good enough, but time tends to change this or that.
I have my own example: after a good number of years my activity has increased constantly, in the past half a year it was down and I start having doubts it will recover to the levels from 7-8 months ago.
Life goes on, things happen, merit sources can become less active and a constant (or slowly increasing!) number of active merit sources is a must.

I hope that Theymos thinks the same and, whether he will answer you or not, he will look at the numbers and take the right decision.

I said it before, I think that @Charles-Tim deserves to be merit source.
His initial timing was rather unfortunate, as stated back then, but now it may be just right.

Good luck!

[Rikafip]

My guess is probably right - theymos want a merit source that tends to help lower ranked communities that have quality posts versus focusing on distributing merit to highly reputable users most of whom are merit sources.

I don't think that theymos cares about which rank potential merit source sends merit to, but rather to what kind of posts he merits. At least I like to think that.

Every user who applies becomes a merit source

Nope, not everyone who applied became a merit source as there are bunch of users who submitted their applications years ago and were skipped when theymos introduced new merit sources back in 2021, while some who enevr even applied became merit sources.

[_BlackStar]

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I don't think that theymos cares about which rank potential merit source sends merit to, but rather to what kind of posts he merits. At least I like to think that.

For most of the time I had the same assumptions as you - but somehow I also think otherwise because maybe some new approach can be done before someone is elevated to merit source. But in the end I also support merit applications and expect theymos to consider Charles-Tim as one - that's because I think he deserves the responsibility.

Every user who applies to become a merit source is basically willing to assume responsibility for distributing merit on quality posts.

Nope, not everyone who applied became a merit source as there are bunch of users who submitted their applications years ago and were skipped when theymos introduced new merit sources back in 2021, while some who enevr even applied became merit sources.

I understand what you're saying - but I think I made a mistake when I writing, should be like the quote above. If you don't cut my post - then I can definitely expect you to write something different, so I'm sorry.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Create a new one with focused on the Nigerian board (that's move your new application to a new thread and lock this one). I won't have noticed you applied to be a source if I wasn't quoted.

There's no reason for Charles-Tim to create two separate merit source application threads, regardless of whether you or he wants to emphasize the fact that he'll be acting as one of the Nigerian board sources.  If Theymos has read this thread (and I'm guessing he has and probably is still following it), he'll know what the deal is.  

Besides, Charles-Tim could easily edit the title of this thread and, aside from that, if he starts up another one I bet you he'll get criticism for being redundant.  It's a no-win situation if he does that.

Theymos, where are you at??  We pleebs need some guidance down here in the trenches of this nice little forum that you're the administrator of.  What are your thoughts about how the merit system is functioning?  Are you planning on adding any more merit sources?  I think the local boards in particular need a few more, as a number of them are extremely active and the members of which are apparently going under-merited.  Can't have that now, right?

while some who enevr even applied became merit sources.

Yeah, that was 2019 but I forget the month.  I was one of those who was handed a job and told to go forth and prosper, etc.  I can't even remember the last time Theymos spoke about the merit system in a thread.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Create a new one with focused on the Nigerian board (that's move your new application to a new thread and lock this one). I won't have noticed you applied to be a source if I wasn't quoted.

There's no reason for Charles-Tim to create two separate merit source application threads, regardless of whether you or he wants to emphasize the fact that he'll be acting as one of the Nigerian board sources.  If Theymos has read this thread (and I'm guessing he has and probably is still following it), he'll know what the deal is.  

There's nothing wrong with criticism and besides we might all have different views on how things should be done but that's what makes the forum beautiful. Here's an explanation to how others might view what he just did, he applied for a job and didn't get considered and now he's trying again with the Nigeria card and hoping he gets approved but to distance himself from such assumption a new thread would had been the perfect idea. He isn't having two applications (he's going to lock the previous thread) besides the first was for the forum in general which theymos didn't want to add any new sources but the new one is for Nigeria which we definitely need an upgrade of merits in that board. Him getting the Nigerian locals support can appeal to theymos in granting us a new source

The board is losing activity because people aren't getting enough merit compared to writing on the main board. Alot of Nigerians related topics are still been discussed on the main board and that's because there isn't much motivation for posters in the local board. I also noticed many Nigerians hasn't supported his application (I mean after his recent intentions of been a source for us) which is because they haven't noticed it since it's hidden. I said I wouldn't have noticed his intentions without mentioning me on this thread (and me been interested to see what the mentions were about). Well it's still his decision but I just gave my suggestion and I hope he takes it.

Theymos mightn't be willing to add new source to the general forum but will obviously consider to add a new source to the Nigeria board so make that known Charles-Tim and don't hide it.

[skarais]

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I can't even remember the last time Theymos spoke about the merit system in a thread.

I think Theymos doesn't talk too much about the merit system, that's reflected in their posting history which you can find here:

- https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Theymos&content=merit%20system

As far as I know, no new merit sources have been added in recent years, but some deletions are possible if they aren't actively doing their thing. I agree that local board need sufficient merit source, this will help many users achieve worth it merit.

[Charles-Tim]

Theymos mightn't be willing to add new source to the general forum but will obviously consider to add a new source to the Nigeria board so make that known Charles-Tim and don't hide it.

You are absolutely right, but because I have applied before and also because I have posted it on this thread, I will not want to create a new thread for it. I think The Sceptical Chymist is very right as well. Let us leave it on this thread, but I will try my best to make it visible that I also applied for Nigerian merit source. I have edited the title already. I have also edited the OP to begin with the link for my my local board merit source application.

[examplens]

Theymos mightn't be willing to add new source to the general forum but will obviously consider to add a new source to the Nigeria board so make that known Charles-Tim and don't hide it.

You are absolutely right, but because I have applied before and also because I have posted it on this thread, I will not want to create a new thread for it. I think The Sceptical Chymist is very right as well. Let us leave it on this thread, but I will try my best to make it visible that I also applied for Nigerian merit source. I have edited the title already. I have also edited the OP to begin with the link for my my local board merit source application.

I am of the opinion that the only obstacle standing between you and merit source status can be if the Nigerian local board already has enough merit source members. If I remember correctly, at some point there was a discussion where the wish was expressed to activate local boards. Bigger circulation of merit in local boards is part of that idea.

Is there any information, on how many merit sources are active in Nigerian local?

[Charles-Tim]

I am of the opinion that the only obstacle standing between you and merit source status can be if the Nigerian local board already has enough merit source members.

Check the stat on this application post. No enough merit distribution on the local board.

Is there any information, on how many merit sources are active in Nigerian local?

Only CryptopreneurBrainboss is the merit source we got. No inactive merit source.

[sokani]

Charles-Tim is one of the most active posters on the Nigeria local board and a worthy contributor on the forum. He frequently posts on the beginners & help board, Bitcoin discussion, Bitcoin technical support board and of course the Nigerian local board. I'm always wowed whenever I come across his highly thoughtful, constructive and concise response to questions asked on the forum. He's also one stand up guy that's always advocating for quality posts on the Nigerian local board so I've no doubt that he would make a good merit source.

I love you brother, keep flying the green white green flag and I'm in full support of your merit source application.

[uchegod-21]

Theymos mightn't be willing to add new source to the general forum but will obviously consider to add a new source to the Nigeria board so make that known Charles-Tim and don't hide it.

You are absolutely right, but because I have applied before and also because I have posted it on this thread, I will not want to create a new thread for it. I think The Sceptical Chymist is very right as well. Let us leave it on this thread, but I will try my best to make it visible that I also applied for Nigerian merit source. I have edited the title already. I have also edited the OP to begin with the link for my my local board merit source application.

I understand what CryptopreneurBrainboss meant. He wanted the emphasis to be on Nigerian local board to gain more visibility and support. In the other hand, The Pharmacist idea is also good. Just rename the OP and let's continue the discussion here.

Is there any information, on how many merit sources are active in Nigerian local?

Only 1 merit source and he (CryptopreneurBrainboss) complained that his allocation of smerits is small as his allocation wasn't increased the last time theymos made a general increase.