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September 17, 2021, 12:59:16 PM
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If you don't like bitcoin, you can simply not use it and just continue using your preferred. Why need to cause damage?
This is where you will understand this is not just a role played by dollar supporters but the political opponent or the industries in which the Bitcoin implementation seems to disturb the greedy earning.
The last time I check no genuine citizen of a country that sees an innovative technology that put her country name on the headlines of every magazine world will plan to go against the technology.



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September 17, 2021, 02:05:26 PM
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I still don't understand why they don't like it, and they destroy it, is this really what people think.
It may be a bit harsh, but to me, those are actions that go against human development.
If we all think and act like this, I think we live in hell. But there are many conspiracy theories I've heard about wanting to control the market in some way, and this is also one of the things they do to control it.
I think their mood is a confusing and inexplicable space but at the most calm they also have no thoughts of destruction but the crowd is always targeted by enemies to provoke, perhaps these supporters have been ignited by an unknown person, causing schisms and unnecessary destruction, such action really does not represent a civilized attitude and the government can take advantage of that to demand compensation as well as discipline. Protest has many civilized ways and needs people to represent the voices of all, cannot be barbaric, and the government of EI Salvador should also listen and empathize

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September 17, 2021, 02:12:16 PM
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I still don't understand why they don't like it, and they destroy it, is this really what people think.
It may be a bit harsh, but to me, those are actions that go against human development.
If we all think and act like this, I think we live in hell. But there are many conspiracy theories I've heard about wanting to control the market in some way, and this is also one of the things they do to control it.
I think their mood is a confusing and inexplicable space but at the most calm they also have no thoughts of destruction but the crowd is always targeted by enemies to provoke, perhaps these supporters have been ignited by an unknown person, causing schisms and unnecessary destruction, such action really does not represent a civilized attitude and the government can take advantage of that to demand compensation as well as discipline. Protest has many civilized ways and needs people to represent the voices of all, cannot be barbaric, and the government of EI Salvador should also listen and empathize
there is always a conspiracy of people with an interest in matters like this. those who feel aggrieved will find ways to thwart the progress that El Salvador has made. but I believe the ones that get the most impact are the traders who accept bitcoins. this will create fear for them. the government should provide safety guarantees for merchants who accept bitcoin and other crypto asset transactions.

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September 17, 2021, 02:12:21 PM
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This incident really shocked me too. I understand that people don't have to like Bitcoin as their legal tender. But they should have shown this differently, not like this. I wonder what the government will do about this incident. It is important for them to act in the right way. Otherwise, they can cause other people to do similar things also. Their goal is to make people have an interest in using Bitcoin in the end.

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September 17, 2021, 02:25:45 PM
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These people really want trouble, their government is trying to do anything that they can and adopt anything that it can for them to step up. While their government has that vision through adopting bitcoin, there they are destroying things that have started to be built and installed by their government. Their government will act on this and surely will give them what they deserve as punishment, they are not forced to use bitcoin, they are still free to use bitcoin or USD at their will.
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September 17, 2021, 03:45:48 PM
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Those are stupid people. They have two payment options, either using dollars or Bitcoin. The act of destroying a Bitcoin ATM is vandalism and they will be held accountable for that. I believe these people have an organization behind them to induce them to do it.
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September 17, 2021, 04:21:28 PM
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September 17, 2021, 04:27:30 PM
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Astounded by the amazing success of Bitcoin implementation in El Salvador, anti-social elements sponsored by the USD lobby have started vandalizing and destroying the Bitcoin ATMs installed by the government. The Bitcoin implementation has proceeded relatively smoothly and this has angered those who were expecting it to fail. I don't expect them to stop with this. The next step may be rioters beating up anyone who is using Bitcoin and vandalizing shops that accept BTC as a payment mode.
These people are rude and crazy.  While Flexa, the largest bank in the country of El Salvado, previously accepted online bitcoin payment gateways, transitions are underway.  I don't understand what is their motivation towards this action?  Will it involve NGOs or political riots?

Anyway, I support and trust that Nayib Bukele will quickly come up with arguments /strong measures to deter these crazy actions affecting the very property of the country.

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September 17, 2021, 08:11:28 PM
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At first El Salvador seemed to be accepting bitcoins well without any conflicts. but when btcoin is actually legalized and adopted there are many pros and cons.
Of course there have been some provocations made against the use of bitcoin.
People who don't agree with the adoption of bitcoin and make it a legal currency are people who are against bitcoin. But some of them also support bitcoin. maybe this is the peak, the government of El Salvador will certainly rethink whether the steps for bitcoin adoption will continue to be carried out or will be carried out some developments to be accepted.
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September 17, 2021, 09:00:17 PM
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Astounded by the amazing success of Bitcoin implementation in El Salvador, anti-social elements sponsored by the USD lobby have started vandalizing and destroying the Bitcoin ATMs installed by the government. The Bitcoin implementation has proceeded relatively smoothly and this has angered those who were expecting it to fail. I don't expect them to stop with this. The next step may be rioters beating up anyone who is using Bitcoin and vandalizing shops that accept BTC as a payment mode.
These people are rude and crazy.  While Flexa, the largest bank in the country of El Salvado, previously accepted online bitcoin payment gateways, transitions are underway.  I don't understand what is their motivation towards this action?  Will it involve NGOs or political riots?

Anyway, I support and trust that Nayib Bukele will quickly come up with arguments /strong measures to deter these crazy actions affecting the very property of the country.

if these people don't like to use bitcoin, they don't need to destroy the government's property. let other people use it because anyway, they are not obliged to use it. but such action is expected as there are really extremist individuals who resort to violence. but if the government will strongly support this move, in time, these people will just accept the existence of crypto in their system. and i believe, if this will continue to vandalising those merchants/shops which accept bitcoin, the government should take necessary penalties to these people. vandalism of public or private properties is considered a crime everywhere.

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September 17, 2021, 09:12:21 PM
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In such situation, it is really hard to expect people like this to adopt Bitcoin in the future. They will always continue to oppose it I think. But I would like to know the reason why they are showing their discontent by destroying the Bitcoin ATMs in the country. This is not the wise way to show their intention. If you don't want to use Bitcoin and prefer dollar over it, then keep doing what you always do.
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September 17, 2021, 09:34:36 PM
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Every decision will definitely cause pros and cons, as well as the decision of the government of El Salvador to legalize Bitcoin as a legal tender and money in their country.
In this case, there must be certain parties who do not like or feel disadvantaged, and this will trigger various conflicts.
But what makes me disappointed is the destruction of the Bitcoin ATM.
Did they think by destroying it this would be over? No! This will only make their name worse in the eyes of the public. Protest with something supportive and also good, if you don't like it, just leave it, don't use it, but don't try to damage it.

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September 17, 2021, 09:35:59 PM
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There has to be someone funding these anti-bitcoin protests. Like, how thick can people be? They don't want to use bitcoin, that's fine and all, but why destroy things that are created to help people out? The people of El Salvador aren't forced to use bitcoin, only that bitcoin is legally recognized and can be used on the country without any problem. If they want to contest the ruling, do it on the court of law, or perhaps try and ask some lawmakers to voice their opinions out.

This is not the right way to make noise if the anti-bitcoin people want to be heard. They're just making a negative case for themselves that won't help further their agenda.
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September 17, 2021, 09:44:30 PM
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I don't know what the political situation in this country is so I can't take sides, but destroying someone else's or government property is crime and what that person did by destroying this Bitcoin ATM is crime. nothing justifies violence. but my question is:

why are there people who are not satisfied with bitcoin if they can still use another currency if they don't like bitcoin? or is it that the government forced everyone to use bitcoin? what am i missing?

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why are there people who are not satisfied with bitcoin if they can still use another currency if they don't like bitcoin? or is it that the government forced everyone to use bitcoin? what am i missing?

I think this question has been already answered. But still I would repeat:

1. There is no compulsion for the customers. They have 100% freedom to pay in whatever mode they want - either USD or BTC.
2. Since Bitcoin is a legal tender, all the shopkeepers are required to make the Bitcoin payment option mandatory. But that said, they can opt to receive the amount in USD. That is, even if the customer pays in BTC, the shopkeeper will receive the amount in USD as per live exchange rates with 0% loss and 0% commission.

Some of the shopkeepers don't want to provide the BTC payment option, and that is causing issues. There are many in El Salvador, who deals only with physical cash. They don't accept online modes, in order to avoid paying taxes. These are the guys who are protesting against the move.

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September 18, 2021, 11:02:51 AM
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Those are stupid people. They have two payment options, either using dollars or Bitcoin. The act of destroying a Bitcoin ATM is vandalism and they will be held accountable for that. I believe these people have an organization behind them to induce them to do it.

Well, I wouldn't say people are smarter than anyone else just because they go for Bitcoin, or anyone who just does that but I still feel we'd be more stupid for taking all of this in without any context, without really knowing the situation on the ground, without listening to what they have to say.

Kind of stupid also to just rave about Bitcoin there without understanding how it helps.

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September 18, 2021, 02:08:51 PM
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Literally sick, If they do not like bitcoin just leave it be, why destroy BTC machines. It might be they think that implementing BTC bitcoin to the country will affect the economy.
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September 18, 2021, 02:24:50 PM
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dollar supporters destroy bitcoin atm in el salvador,, I think this is not the problem between bitcoin and fiat currency, because we know bitcoin and fiat always coexist, they support each other, I think this is just someone on behalf of dollar supporters, they must have a certain purpose, hopefully the government can solve this problem, so that there are no misunderstandings..
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September 18, 2021, 02:31:54 PM
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If you don't like bitcoin, you can simply not use it and just continue using your preferred. Why need to cause damage? It's not like fiat users are going to be affected. Something's just so suspicious about this.
This aren't only dollar supporters of fiat users. I'm thinking that this plan has been done by those authorities who are opposed with the government. In short, the opposition team might be the one who is behind this. I'm not saying that they are but for me, I'm thinking that its them though I don't have any concrete evidence at all.

I agree with this. Why vandalize?? Why destroy?? I don't get it. They will all benefit from it but they did this. They can just simply ignore Bitcoin and just use fiat money but they are going beyond what they can do.

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actions financed by the international community. The sad thing is that they are funded by the evil opposition. For those who want to destroy atm in el salvador, continue to demonstrate, actually the dollar does not feel harmed by bitcoin in el salvador, but in my opinion this is all financed by bad people, there must be a certain purpose behind all of that, hopefully it will be revealed soon..

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