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My observation is very simple yet I don't know why it actually escaped the eagle eyes of moderators and administrators or it had been discussed here before. The bottom right side of that uploaded picture shows "Reply", "Quote" and "Notify" buttons and I'm wondering why " Delete" and " Merit" buttons aren't included too so that one can easily and mellifluously carry out those functions without necessarily going through the threads where such posts and comments were made. If there's anyone with the answers, they should kindly equip the community with them. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fehgf64K.png&t=665&c=DzgUhFoiqSL8Ew)
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September 17, 2021, 11:54:03 AM |
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My observation is very simple yet I don't know why it actually escaped the eagle eyes of moderators and administrators or it had been discussed here before. The bottom right side of that uploaded picture shows "Reply", "Quote" and "Notify" buttons and I'm wondering why "Delete" and "Merit" buttons aren't included too
This has been mentioned before and I think it was a design decision by Theymos (didn't comment on that thread). It's probably to make life a bit harder for people who want to sell merits as it'd be easier to find older posts to start meriting if it was done differently from that.
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I used to want a quick merit option like you're suggesting but I've grown to like the merit button where it is. It kinda makes you consider the context when sending merit. For example a short sentence could be or could be not meritorious depending on whether it concisely and precisely answers someone's question, or just adds some useless noise on page 54 of a spam megathread. Same with a 5-paragraph post that may seem merit-worthy on its own, but if it repeats something that's already been said then maybe not.
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Merit button probably unnecessary since you might need to read the thread to understand the post better (especially because few member don't bother quote above reply). However, the "Delete" button could be useful if you want to delete your posts for various reason (such as older shit post, protect privacy or wish to leave the forum).
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September 17, 2021, 12:08:12 PM |
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The bottom right side of that uploaded picture shows "Reply", "Quote" and "Notify" buttons and I'm wondering why "Delete" and "Merit" buttons aren't included too so that one can easily and mellifluously carry out those functions without necessarily going through the threads where such posts and comments were made.
I understand your inquiry, but when you basically just open the post, it takes you straight to it, thus if it's yours you can delete straight away and if it is an instance were you want to merit someones post you can do same too, I don't consider it to be too much of a hassle, just one extra step which is to open the post and that's that, pretty fast imo.
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September 17, 2021, 12:16:52 PM |
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I used to want a quick merit option like you're suggesting but I've grown to like the merit button where it is. It kinda makes you consider the context when sending merit. For example a short sentence could be or could be not meritorious depending on whether it concisely and precisely answers someone's question, or just adds some useless noise on page 54 of a spam megathread. Same with a 5-paragraph post that may seem merit-worthy on its own, but if it repeats something that's already been said then maybe not.
Precisely, what got me to start this thread was the absence of the "Delete" button but I decided to add "Merit" to it as I thought it wouldn't do any harm in killing two birds with one stone, so to say. This has been mentioned before and I think it was a design decision by Theymos (didn't comment on that thread).
Please, I will be glad if you could share that link here, bearing in mind I'm referring to the "Delete" button issue. I will like to read how the issue was tackled from the perspectives of other posters.
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September 17, 2021, 12:21:41 PM |
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Merit button probably unnecessary since you might need to read the thread to understand the post better (especially because few member don't bother quote above reply). However, the "Delete" button could be useful if you want to delete your posts for various reason (such as older shit post, protect privacy or wish to leave the forum).
This is my thinking too. I've wanted a merit button on the patrol page, however that would likely encourage users meriting others on face value. Their post might have some substance, but if it's not related to the thread, then it should probably not be merited at all. I suspect not many users use patrol either, and it's reserved for moderators, and those that enjoy the process of reporting spam.
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September 17, 2021, 01:21:50 PM |
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In my opinion though, what I only even see useful for me about someone's posts page is 'notify', I can not use it for any other reason like 'quote and reply', I find those not useful, but better to be there because other forum members can see it useful, but I have not and have never thought of using it before. I get the clearer picture of a thread before I will want to merit a post, also before I can reply to a topic or someone's post, I will like to visit the thread directly so to avoid repetition and also avoiding posting what others have posted before. Please, I will be glad if you could share that link here, bearing in mind I'm referring to the "Delete" button issue. I will like to read how the issue was tackled from the perspectives of other posters.
What I can suggest is for reply and quote button to be removed as it can even encourage spamming as to not reading what others have replied under such post, I believe good posters will visit the link, check the thread before making any quote or replying. But if delete button is added including notify, this will really be good. Just only delete and notify button will be fine while only notify button will be fine if it is another users post history. Or, maybe, 'report to moderators button' can also be included for easy means to report spam and plagiarized contents.
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September 17, 2021, 01:37:57 PM |
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While a delete and "Report to moderator" would be quite helpful, I don't think a merit button would be that of use. People tend to merit post while reading article/topic and its reply. I have barely gone through anyone’s profile and merited them. This is my personal preference though. I get the clearer picture of a thread before I will want to merit a post, also before I can reply to a topic or someone's post, I will like to visit the thread directly so to avoid repetition and also avoiding posting what others have posted before.
This is what everyone does usually I think. Other than merit sources (assumption), barely people go through a profile to share merit.
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I suspect not many users use patrol either, and it's reserved for moderators, and those that enjoy the process of reporting spam.
I used it earlier in the days when i started reporting as it was just simple to find spam and stuff like that but i dont use it much now! Im reading the posts and threads and at some stage you know where you have to look for it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Or, maybe, 'report to moderators button' can also be included for easy means to report spam and plagiarized contents.
Can be helpful for sure but if you getting used to it and dont read the other post before of after the post its possible you miss more spam, specialy when it is in some big thread or when some bots posting in there.
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September 17, 2021, 02:21:33 PM |
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This has been mentioned before and I think it was a design decision by Theymos (didn't comment on that thread).
Please, I will be glad if you could share that link here, bearing in mind I'm referring to the "Delete" button issue. I will like to read how the issue was tackled from the perspectives of other posters. Disclaimer didn't find the exact threads but I think it's a sensitive topic for theymos: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196493.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=961711.0
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I'm with ETFbitcoin on this one. And a "delete" button on the other hand kinda makes sense for me as well; for privacy reasons like mentioned. But the demand for such feature is simply just too small for Theymos to act upon it imo. There are simply other more important thinks to work on. ..you know, like the new forum software
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~snipped~
Well, perhaps you will need to go back to my post and realize that the screenshot I shared was from my profile, not from a random user's. I'm talking about the ease of a poster trying to delete their own posts from their post history without having to go through the stress of opening it in the thread it's posted on before being able to delete it. May be others posting here also missed that view that the shot was from my profile. I don't know why it appears the same way when one also views post history of others. But the sample I shared there is my own post and I'm asking why it doesn't have a delete button like we have when one creates a thread?
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQeopcJv.png&t=665&c=e4qKpwadOOkHog) In case anyone missed what I'm asking for here, that screenshot captures it well with the circled part in green. I'm asking if it's possible to make every post one makes have that at once from the post history, rather than go to the thread to open and delete it.
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Let's assume there is a merit button as you want. And you discover a user that would deserve merits which led to you to visit users post history. Imagine you have found a few quality posts where he deserves merit and you merited as well. Then, later on, you discovered that the user just copy-pastes other's content or just repeats with modifications, what will you do? There is no demerit option that you can withdraw merits. There are more scenarios that possibly would happen, I just give you an example. But I agree with adding a delete button. If a user realizes that he made a wrong or shit post, then he could clear that.
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mellifluously
"My, what a big vocabulary you have," said the wolf. Lol. I haven't even seen that word since I studied for the GRE about 20 years ago. And yeah, things could be arranged a lot better on this forum, but that's the way Theymos slapped the buttons and links together. I don't think he's got any plans to change where they are, and I didn't even think that they might seem oddly placed to some folks. I've been seeing them in the same place for so long that it's hard for me to imagine the merit link-thing anywhere else--and same goes for the rest of them. While a delete and "Report to moderator" would be quite helpful, I don't think a merit button would be that of use. People tend to merit post while reading article/topic and its reply.
I like the merit link where it is--but as I said, that's probably because it's always been where it is and I'm used to it. I'd rather keep it where it is than to move it someplace where dumbass merit sources like myself would have a hard time finding it again.
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September 17, 2021, 05:45:18 PM |
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But I agree with adding a delete button. If a user realizes that he made a wrong or shit post, then he could clear that.
That's the main reason for this thread – the delete button. The merit issue there should just be seen as an addendum. mellifluously
"My, what a big vocabulary you have," said the wolf. Lol. I haven't even seen that word since I studied for the GRE about 20 years ago. Well, 🤔. It could be, possibly because pharmacists are more concerned about health than high sounding words 😆
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September 17, 2021, 08:45:51 PM |
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Merit buttons and a report to moderator button may be required by users who have a habit of reviewing other users' posts for the purpose of deleting or sending merit. I'm not used to doing it that way as I prefer to check it thread to thread so I can actually tell if the post was constructive enough or off topic.
So it probably won't be added as the suggestion seem to have been covered here before. I like to do it as I have always done so far in terms of sending merit and also reporting posts to moderators. So imo the button is not really needed so until now theymos have not approved it.
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- Quote button: Click on it & still stay on a page
- + Merit: click on it & be directed to a new page
- I think it is easy to create the same button for Merit but it probably is purpose of theymos. He probably wanted to keep people have opportunities to read the content and think of merit sending decision, if the sender want to think of it again. Sender don't have to go back & forth to check it.
- Some interesting script/ extension
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Those things seem trivial, but you could always delete them by CTRL+MOUSE1 or just MOUSE3 on the posts and manually remove them. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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It's fine if you only plan to delete few posts, but it's not practical if you plan to delete lots of post at once. I'm not sure if there's script which do it automatically with you with feature such as delete posts on specific boards (e.g. bounties) or specific date (e.g. between 2016 to 2020).
True that. But then, it's only a teeny-weeny of the userbase that would want to wipe their history. What for though, unless they have some incriminating evidence.
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