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That's actually the reason why underground gambling is existing nowadays and it's even increasing. Sometimes, each country's regulation against gambling could make the situation worse. India has a huge population of gamblers and if their government would force to control everything, they couldn't eliminate gambling completely.
It's not nowadays, underground gambling has been existing ever since the dawn of casinos, and it's not really for that reason that they're existing, they were created because some businessmen don't want to pay the taxes and the people want more money when gambling which the underground offers.
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Being a regular visitor to India, I know what to expect from that country. It is just hopeless. This is the same country which has banned porn. There are some states where alcohol is illegal (Bihar, Mizoram, Gujarat.etc). Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Now they come up with their next masterpiece. Anyone indulging in online gambling will be jailed for 3 years. Does it really surprise anyone that India has the worst brain drain problem in the world? Anyone with a "brain" will just migrate to some other country, rather than putting up with such stupid laws.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/ Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence. What do you think about it ? ( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news) I wonder what spurred politicians into this sort of action, I've never thought of India as a big place for gambling? Sadly gambling is an easy target for politicians who want to make their mark and target so-called wrongdoers. The companies have few avenues to defend their activity, the politicians might even be getting paid off by businesses who will benefit from less competition in certain areas (e.g. the lottery) and lastly it is an easy vote winner as older generations are likely to agree with it. I have to wonder how many betting companies actually exist within the state as maybe it will be a rather symbolic act rather than actually effecting many businesses on a wide scale. Very helpful warning that might be overlooked by residents of the state elsewhere.
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September 21, 2021, 09:04:42 PM |
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If there's a worry about addiction then it should involve every other gambling activity. But this bill is like to end up everyone being on the favorable gambling game that they are favorable with. That sounds like it is.
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September 21, 2021, 09:47:07 PM |
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/ Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence. What do you think about it ? ( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news) Are they blocking access to these sites? How do they plan on prosecuting people who simply use a VPN to circumvent the ban, if that is the case? Especially with a lot of gambling services changing to decentralized platforms now, I'm not positive on their ability to keep their word. The penalties are large but proving guilt is difficult.
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September 21, 2021, 10:30:50 PM |
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That's actually the reason why underground gambling is existing nowadays and it's even increasing. Sometimes, each country's regulation against gambling could make the situation worse. India has a huge population of gamblers and if their government would force to control everything, they couldn't eliminate gambling completely.
Gambling is illegal in India and you cannot find a casino anywhere else in the nation except for Goa which is a tourist destination and online gambling was a grey area for a long time and you are not able to deposit money into gambling sites using any banking system directly and if you want to gamble you need to transfer money to multiple online payment systems before depositing in a gambling site and now a state introduced a bill which is not that surprising.
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September 21, 2021, 10:43:58 PM |
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/karnataka-government-bill-assembly-ban-online-gambling-7516048/lite/ Karnataka ( A state in India ) just introduced a bill in assembly to ban online gambling in the state which does mean that the players won't be able to use anything like that anymore. People will have maximum imprisonment UpTo 3 years or would have to pay 1 lac. Inr. Virtual currencies are also included in the same. It does not involve lottery or wagering, horse racing outside the state. For people who are addicted the punishment would increase every moment, it would start from a lower amount and lower imprisonment and increase tremendously for every next offence. What do you think about it ? ( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news) How are they planning on enforcing this is the big issue. Especially at non-KYC casinos, I don't see how this can be possible. They are definitely not going to have the power to collect personal data from these sites. Please. I wouldn't worry too much about this if you are just playing for fun. I doubt that these local authorities would have the power to get information that they seem to need to execute on these laws.
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September 22, 2021, 02:40:27 AM |
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Gambling is illegal in India and you cannot find a casino anywhere else in the nation except for Goa which is a tourist destination and online gambling was a grey area for a long time and you are not able to deposit money into gambling sites using any banking system directly and if you want to gamble you need to transfer money to multiple online payment systems before depositing in a gambling site and now a state introduced a bill which is not that surprising.
Everything is banned in India. Gambling, porn, weed, and even satellite phones. The government thinks that citizens should dance as per their whims and fancies. There is no concept of individual liberty or privacy. And a large section of the population actually supports this. They believe that such restrictions are necessary to prevent tax evasion and criminal activities. And like analysts say, a population always get the government they deserve. Those who don't want to live under such restrictive conditions just migrate to other countries.
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What do you think about it ?
For just a state in a country to ban gambling can not be effective, people will always bypass it. Only what can be effective are gambling agents which will not be allowed no more in the state and nothing more, but online gambling will be effective, using cryptocurrencies to gambling will also be effective.
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September 22, 2021, 09:13:16 AM |
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For just a state in a country to ban gambling can not be effective, people will always bypass it. Only what can be effective are gambling agents which will not be allowed no more in the state and nothing more, but online gambling will be effective, using cryptocurrencies to gambling will also be effective.
Exactly, people will resist if you tighten the restrictions, remember the basic idea that humans are naturally free creatures so if you subjugate or violate that freedom, they will always resist you no matter how beneficial that restriction is to them and no matter how much they explain it to you. This kind of restrictions don't work, it's a waste of taxpayer's money.
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September 22, 2021, 09:40:59 AM |
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Was horse racing and lottery being run by the government of Karnataka? If yes, I think that was the reason they aren't banning all of it, just my own opinion but I think people will still be curious on things and will just goes through another alternatives like having a VPN or else another state where it's legal. I don't know if how government will enforced this but gamblers should take notice.
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September 22, 2021, 12:44:43 PM |
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That's actually the reason why underground gambling is existing nowadays and it's even increasing. Sometimes, each country's regulation against gambling could make the situation worse. India has a huge population of gamblers and if their government would force to control everything, they couldn't eliminate gambling completely.
Gambling is illegal in India and you cannot find a casino anywhere else in the nation except for Goa which is a tourist destination and online gambling was a grey area for a long time and you are not able to deposit money into gambling sites using any banking system directly and if you want to gamble you need to transfer money to multiple online payment systems before depositing in a gambling site and now a state introduced a bill which is not that surprising. I read in an article on the Indian gaming industry that gambling is allowed not only in Goa, but also in Sikkim and in Daman and Diu. Currently, there is no need to use credit cards transactions that are tracked by the state. Cryptocurrencies can be used to make anonymous casino deposits. Moreover, if there were no underground casinos on the territory of Karnataka then no one would introduce laws toughening penalties for gambling.
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September 22, 2021, 02:18:11 PM |
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Was horse racing and lottery being run by the government of Karnataka? If yes, I think that was the reason they aren't banning all of it, just my own opinion but I think people will still be curious on things and will just goes through another alternatives like having a VPN or else another state where it's legal. I don't know if how government will enforced this but gamblers should take notice.
If this banning continues, people can use VPN to play online gambling and they will not stop before they get caught by the authority. I guess the government will not be easy to find who is their people are still playing gambling. But in the local gambling places, maybe the government can search from places where people usually place their bets. People can break the rule by using many ways to play gambling, whether their government prohibits or even ban gambling.
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I did not understand carefully, at the beginning you said that they only introduced rules against online gambling, but did not involve lotteries and bets. Here I certainly question, then what types of games are included in the group that is included in the prohibition rules in India? especially in the Karnataka region? As a layman, of course I don't really understand, because I'm not a citizen living in India, while the people of Karnataka or some of the media haven't fully sparked a great debate about prohibition.
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September 22, 2021, 02:38:20 PM |
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Not surprised as this is common here in India. I guess last year I have seen Delhi to ban online gambling (correct me if I'm wrong, I can't remember ATM). I don’t know why the hell they ban this. People with enough age must have the right to do whatever they wish to do with their money. Well, they can't prevent online gambling for sure. There are a lot of casino which allow playing with VPN. Bad move from them IMO. It would be good for them if they could simply bring gambling under regulations which could potentially bring them revenue.
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September 22, 2021, 03:20:37 PM |
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Gambling is illegal in India and you cannot find a casino anywhere else in the nation except for Goa which is a tourist destination and online gambling was a grey area for a long time and you are not able to deposit money into gambling sites using any banking system directly and if you want to gamble you need to transfer money to multiple online payment systems before depositing in a gambling site and now a state introduced a bill which is not that surprising.
Everything is banned in India. Gambling, porn, weed, and even satellite phones. The government thinks that citizens should dance as per their whims and fancies. There is no concept of individual liberty or privacy. And a large section of the population actually supports this. They believe that such restrictions are necessary to prevent tax evasion and criminal activities. And like analysts say, a population always get the government they deserve. Those who don't want to live under such restrictive conditions just migrate to other countries. The fact is that the more it is banned, it creates a lot of resistance. India with the largest human population makes it difficult for the government to overcome their policies so that they are evenly distributed. Even in gambling, there are many ways for residents there to take cases in various ways. They even dominate crypto transactions anonymously. So it is possible that when in Karnataka there are restrictions, it does not mean they are completely silent.
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September 22, 2021, 05:47:11 PM |
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What do you think about it ? ( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
This prohibition aims to continue to minimize the occurrence of public aggression towards gambling just because of the impingement of wrong livelihoods. There's no such thing as really making gambling to make money. When the citizens of Karnataka are being pressured to survive in a state of recovery from Covid 19, in fact India is still having trouble dealing with this case. Until many gambling games are opened secretly. Not only online gambling, some people in the Karnataka market gamble behind buildings. The new rules that create boundaries, still say will not be a good solution.
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September 23, 2021, 11:32:35 AM |
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What do you think about it ? ( Players from Karnataka India, please do take a note of this and follow this news)
This prohibition aims to continue to minimize the occurrence of public aggression towards gambling just because of the impingement of wrong livelihoods. There's no such thing as really making gambling to make money. When the citizens of Karnataka are being pressured to survive in a state of recovery from Covid 19, in fact India is still having trouble dealing with this case. Until many gambling games are opened secretly. Not only online gambling, some people in the Karnataka market gamble behind buildings. The new rules that create boundaries, still say will not be a good solution. Indeed, there are so many real problems in India which the government needs to solve that tougher penalties for gambling are the last thing they should be thinking about. It would be better for the government to think about possible measures to reduce mortality and poverty among the population, which, as I think, is not caused by gambling.
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September 23, 2021, 11:45:10 AM |
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There's a reason why they need to ban of course and some instances I guess because they cannot receive any kind of tax for this kind of an action because most if it's all about cryptocurrency gambling they cannot earn regarding with it but still it's not banned all of the gambling so they don't need to worry about even the lottery are still open to doing with we cannot do anything if the country releases a ban because it's about their law and we cannot argue and deal with it.
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September 23, 2021, 11:52:22 AM |
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The hypocrisy of this ban is ridiculous... They ban online gambling with very harsh punishment or even jail time, but they allow horse racing and the government lottery...etc. etc. Why not just say, "Listen, we want you to gamble on local platforms, because we want the money to stay within India (or that area) or where we have better control over the money that are leaving the country. We all know local lotteries are sponsoring Sport development and local charities and they pay large amounts in taxes and license fees. Most of these local brick n mortar casinos also have to pay bribes to the local government employees to get the licenses, so we know why they hate online casinos.
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