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September 21, 2021, 01:20:08 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.
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September 21, 2021, 02:36:02 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.
How long have you been on a gambling site (betfair).

You have a problem and you are annoyed with their site, that's normal in gambling but why not ask via PM to: @Betfair, in person.

However I see there is one thread about Betfair here: Topic: Is there a "betfair" for bitcoin up and running yet?, but i see that thread is not updated since 2020.

Honestly, I personally don't understand 100% how the betfair gambling site and mix trading work, maybe some of the information above can add a little new information for you.

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September 21, 2021, 02:56:09 PM
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... Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country?
Do you mean to say from restricted countries? Are you and other gamblers from those regions more important than the problems they will encounter if they will allow? It's not that they do not want to accommodate you but they could be shut down since they will be in violation of the terms given by their license provider.

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September 21, 2021, 03:13:49 PM
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Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.

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September 21, 2021, 05:38:18 PM
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Using clones of Betfair van work, but for sure they will not have the same reputation as Belfair. Hiding with VPN might get you into trouble as well.
Why not try some other exchanges?  That are not related to Betfair and have their own API.

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September 21, 2021, 07:57:20 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC?
Why would you use Bitfair when you have Sportsbet.io, Stake and Fortunejack for betting on everything and they are very good, active in forum and they accept Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies?
I don't know what country you live but you should be able to use those website in most countries or try using vpn service.

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September 21, 2021, 08:02:12 PM
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Can you bypass the restrictions through VPN, pretty sure that you can probably find a workaround to help you with your problem, find solutions first before ranting about stuff, it won't get you anywhere.
This does not seem like a good idea, I know that some people do this with the cryptocurrency casinos, but sites like betfair are probably going to be very strict on the application of their policies and since they are so big they probably have a lot more resources than the average bitcoin casino to dedicate to the observance of those rules.

Besides even if you could evade detection how could you get your money out of the platform? As at some point you will need to go through KYC and they will then know what you are doing.

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September 21, 2021, 08:38:12 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same.
^ From this line, why you will keep chasing them and use them even though your country was excluded by them?
It is very risky to use PVN or any tools that you can bypass that restriction and probably it is a good time to let them go and find a better booker aside from them, there are too many here in the forum that running their business fairly and did not restrict others. But in the last line is not the same, what do you mean by that? or do they use a clone website?
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IMO, about the restriction country is kinda confuse. Some people will say is based on the regulation of licenses, company, and provider but sometimes there has some different restricted between other casinos. For example, on "CHIPS.GG" my county not got limited for slot Push Gaming, Relax Gaming, and others but on most other casinos. This case, you can't really do so much because is based law and regulation of the casino & provider.

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September 21, 2021, 08:54:23 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same.
^ From this line, why you will keep chasing them and use them even though your country was excluded by them?
It is very risky to use PVN or any tools that you can bypass that restriction and probably it is a good time to let them go and find a better booker aside from them, there are too many here in the forum that running their business fairly and did not restrict others. But in the last line is not the same, what do you mean by that? or do they use a clone website?
Same thoughts on why you would really be pushing up yourself on using up the platform if its really prohibited or excluding your country because using up VPN would just simply be that risky once you get caught.

There are lots of bookies out there which isnt only limited into this site on where you could make use of.Of course when it comes to laws and regulations then it would really vary into each provider or something like that.

It is just understandable on how those exclusions do works and theres nothing w can do about it.

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September 21, 2021, 09:20:46 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

It's profitable but it's incredibly hard to set up in general and to deal with all the regulations in this field.

A lot of the crypto sportsbooks (fortunejack, Stake, sportsbet, nitro) offer a lot of the markets covered by Betfair though.

Is there a particular reason why you don't want to use crypto based sportsbooks? Are you looking for fiat solutions only?

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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.
Little confused over here. Did they ban your account after your country was added to the restricted list or was your country already on the restriction list but you somehow found a way to bypass the ban? Casinos cannot provide their services to all countries due to different laws and regulation of different countries. You are from a country where your government won't allow you to play on their casino. So you can't blame the casino over here. You probably got banned because the casino noticed that you are playing from a country where they do not provide their services. You broke their ToS, so they have the right to ban your account.

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September 21, 2021, 09:58:08 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.
Is there other angle you can find that your account was ban, like multi accounting or something? I don't think it's a probable reason to ban an account from a country that isn't excluded from the list of countries. What was the message from Betfair notifying about this ban, maybe you could be more specific in that matter and maybe move this on reputation or scam accusation board as well, it's more appropriate there.
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September 21, 2021, 10:16:10 PM
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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Have you taken a look at BTC betting exchanges like Fairlay?

Whilst I agree that Betfair is definitely a great service, it's not the only fish in the ocean.

Take a look at both centralized sportsbooks like Nitrogenbet/Sportsbet.io etc. as well as Fairlay - and I'm pretty certain that there is actually a few decentralized betting markets (that don't have much liquidity within them) hosted on blockchain as well.

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I come from a country excluded for betfair. I am irritated by betfair brokers, it's not the same. There is no worthy alternative for them. Why has no one built something similar, based e.g. on BTC? Isn't it a profitable business? Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country? I have doubts, most of it is probably a scam, and after some time it can be blocked anyway.

Have you taken a look at BTC betting exchanges like Fairlay?

Whilst I agree that Betfair is definitely a great service, it's not the only fish in the ocean.

Take a look at both centralized sportsbooks like Nitrogenbet/Sportsbet.io etc. as well as Fairlay - and I'm pretty certain that there is actually a few decentralized betting markets (that don't have much liquidity within them) hosted on blockchain as well.

definitely agree here. who knows the OP might see other betting exchanges as better than betfair? with his country's exclusion from betfair, he has no choice but look for other sites. with several reputable sportsbooks/casinos here other than btc betting exchange like fairlay, he may find out that some of these casinos can actually serve what he's looking for.

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September 22, 2021, 03:10:58 AM
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Aside from Fairlay there's also this list of sportsbook and exchanges including reviews from other sports bettors.

As of now there's really no good crypto betting exchange that could compete against betfair but still there's a few good ones that's available.

Is it worth it to ban an account from an allowed country?
That's up to you, if i'm in that situation I wouldn't take the risk unless I couldn't find the market I prefer betting on.

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VPN makes no difference as every account goes through KYC.

And if you are German for example they quit the service for all germans (you can still use the sportsbook but not the betting exchange) in around 2010 because of the 5% gambling tax on every bet.

Still waiting for them to add btc but I guess this will never happen.
Too bad that you can't use their site even if you use a VPN, is there like some site that you can use to be an alternative for Betfair or at the least are you looking for one though? Because you're probably going to adapt to the situation since you don't want to stop gambling.
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Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.
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September 22, 2021, 06:20:22 AM
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Betfair may be a desirable gambling platform to play on for you but if your region is restricted then you should forget about it and move on to reputable gambling sites without restriction, if you use a VPN you will still run into trouble in the long run. It's better to stay away than risking your account and funds by bypassing restrictions with the help of a VPN.
At least, he can ask the support system if their site allows using VPN and will not have a problem cash out the win money if he wins. By doing that, he can get the right answer from them to decide whether to use VPN or search for other reputable gambling sites. But move on to the other gambling site that does not require too many things will be better if he does not have any problems in the future. Many gambling sites are out there or from this forum so he does not have to feel difficult to search for the right site.

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September 22, 2021, 06:33:59 AM
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VPN makes no difference as every account goes through KYC.

And if you are German for example they quit the service for all germans (you can still use the sportsbook but not the betting exchange) in around 2010 because of the 5% gambling tax on every bet.

Still waiting for them to add btc but I guess this will never happen.
Let us not push ourself in this site when there are so many options we can use to gamble , we all here Hates KYC obligatory for creating account or even making withdrawal soon.
Just play if you think this is appropriate and deny if not simple as that.
there are tons of gambling site operating and in advertising here in forum in which proven to be legit and accurately responding to our desired situation and even promising us of how safe our funds in this community of gambling .

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