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September 28, 2021, 09:30:17 AM
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A pastor has a job already. If his church is a 501(c)(3) corporation, he is already partially under the control of the government regarding what he can preach and can't preach (USA). So, he is in politics already, like it or not.

A pastor or anybody else can change jobs if they want. King David of the Old Testament WAS the government. But by believing the promise of the Messiah, he was essentially a Christian even back then.

People think that God is going to take care of them. And He does. But often He'd like to use them to take care of themselves, as He used King David, one of the bloodiest kings of Israel.

Read the Psalms in the Bible, and see the attitude David had while he was killing off surrounding nations for the Lord.

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I like your opinion but not now it's different from the past...

nowadays many pastors have learned from the past and think politics is bad even though many don't think so. but it cannot be denied that the role of religion in a country is still strong.



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September 28, 2021, 11:36:24 PM
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Better not, there's a separation of the state and the church and real Christians understands that they have to be subject with the high powers which is pertaining to the government. It's on the bible and they should know about it.

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September 29, 2021, 01:04:23 AM
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Better not, there's a separation of the state and the church and real Christians understands that they have to be subject with the high powers which is pertaining to the government. It's on the bible and they should know about it.

The people who wrote that were hoping that the public would recognize that government is a religion and a church, and shut it down.

Of course, maybe the public shut it down long ago, but on its deathbed, it convinced us all that it was still alive... and here we are trying to make something work that doesn't exist.

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September 30, 2021, 07:19:34 AM
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Better not, there's a separation of the state and the church and real Christians understands that they have to be subject with the high powers which is pertaining to the government. It's on the bible and they should know about it.

The people who wrote that were hoping that the public would recognize that government is a religion and a church, and shut it down.

Of course, maybe the public shut it down long ago, but on its deathbed, it convinced us all that it was still alive... and here we are trying to make something work that doesn't exist.

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In belief of its existence, Christians who are mature in understanding recognizes the power of the state and they shouldn't intervene on it. But, many has different understanding on that notion that leads a lot of debate and others that results in wrong understanding.

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September 30, 2021, 12:50:25 PM
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It's written in the Bible that you cannot serve two masters, you will love the other and you will hate the other, and besides politics is full of corruption, and there's a lot of lies involved in politics, there's a lot of corruption on politics, there a possibility that the Christian's believe will be compromised, the kingdom of the Christians is not in this world.
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September 30, 2021, 05:10:07 PM
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If I was hiring someone for a decision-making position, I would not hire anyone who thinks that Earth is 10,000 years old,
that global flood actually happened, that snake could talk or that someone can just create a human from dirt or rib bone.
No matter how good the person might be. 

I would question their education, ability to critically process information, and their judgment.

For a menial job, yeah, no problem.  These irrational beliefs would not matter much unless they would tell me they actually hear
God's voice. That would disqualify them from any job as it would be a clinical symptom of some mental disorder.

BTW, there are many atheists who were born into non-Christian religious cults.

Indeed, it would be a total disaster if your employee would rather pray and let the almighty handle the job rather than fully see the out come of the job.

How I hate seeing people praying and praying for jobs to come look for them, for money to come knock into the door, rather than finding one. It's literally pissing me off

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October 01, 2021, 02:36:09 AM
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Civil administration requires punishments, which sometimes have to include death. How can christians assume it, and not become a weakness point allowing the spawns of hell to take control?

How do you feel when I say : Murderers, Thieves, Liars and Rapists should lead the church (not as repentants but currently murdering, stealing, rapping, lying).

You don't get my point? logical, you just want power. but why?

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October 01, 2021, 12:36:24 PM
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In my own opinion i do not think you need to force christians to participate in politics if it's against their will  because they have their own beliefs and principles. Politics involves corruption and i know that they are real evil especially when they hold such power to control everything. They're liars.

That's why i understood why christians don't want to support such system.

As a Christian myself, I don't think that being in this religious group is a reason for not voting and such. Christians believes in mercy, salvation, and forgiveness as such we don't want to judge others for any reason that you might think of.

Christianity or any other religion will never be a reason for any individual to stop from participating in this government changing activities, it is their own personality themselves.
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When it comes to politics, I think less of Religion. What politics actually needs is the heart of humanity. Humanity is a religion and it should be studied by politicians.
Christians joining politics is not an assurance of good governance.
We have read where Church funds are misappropriated by pastors, we have read pastors unable to control their homes. So, what is needed in politics is humanity and not religion. In multi religious countries, the emergency of a leader from one religion always causes misunderstandings.

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October 06, 2021, 12:56:58 AM
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When it comes to politics, I think less of Religion. What politics actually needs is the heart of humanity. Humanity is a religion and it should be studied by politicians.
Christians joining politics is not an assurance of good governance.
We have read where Church funds are misappropriated by pastors, we have read pastors unable to control their homes. So, what is needed in politics is humanity and not religion. In multi religious countries, the emergency of a leader from one religion always causes misunderstandings.

This is very true, obviously, there is no humanity and we can see it even in the local politics. Politics starts inside a family and even within a family there is inequality and racism there when it comes to in-laws, you will already see how people look at the bad side of things, pointing fingers and finding faults instead of solving problems. Religion only makes it worse when beliefs are not what others taught to believe.

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October 06, 2021, 08:11:47 AM
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
This has been the misconception over the years. Religion has nothing to do with good leadership. Good leadership is a function of individual discipline we have had many christians in power today who have still failed. Even most christian leaders do worst than the other religion due to the numerous outrageous laws and believe the try to enforce which even them can't keep upto. For me it would be best to keep religion out of politics that way we would save the ecosystem and make the world habitable
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October 06, 2021, 09:29:43 AM
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Well, many Christians are in politics in my country and we have up to 20 Christian state governors, to a great extent shows that the narrative has changed in recent times, the role of religion in politics.
Sin in politics can only come when the leader is corrupt, and Christianity as a religion have its principles that will guide a Christian leader.

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October 07, 2021, 08:34:07 AM
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Reason why most Christian don't participate in politics they feel going into politics can weaken their faith. Because there are many things in politics such as high curruption which some Christian's feel their faith can't re-stand if they should go into politics. The only option they have is to stay from politics.
Exactly,thats why they call politics a dirty business,it's not for gentlemen,it's not for the chicken hearted,it's not for people who have a good mind all the times.Politics belongs to the world,and Christians are modelling their life's after christ,which says they are in the world but do not belong to the world.
Therefore,politics cannot be a thing of the christians,because it's a dirty business,something that will deprave them,so staying away from it is the only solution to it.
In as much as they do not partake in politics,they still do pray for good leadership,peace and good governance.
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October 07, 2021, 06:52:51 PM
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Reason why most Christian don't participate in politics they feel going into politics can weaken their faith. Because there are many things in politics such as high curruption which some Christian's feel their faith can't re-stand if they should go into politics. The only option they have is to stay from politics.
Exactly,thats why they call politics a dirty business,it's not for gentlemen,it's not for the chicken hearted,it's not for people who have a good mind all the times.Politics belongs to the world,and Christians are modelling their life's after christ,which says they are in the world but do not belong to the world.
Therefore,politics cannot be a thing of the christians,because it's a dirty business,something that will deprave them,so staying away from it is the only solution to it.
In as much as they do not partake in politics,they still do pray for good leadership,peace and good governance.

Trump would have had it a lot easier draining the swamp, if he had had a few Christians in government to help him.

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October 07, 2021, 09:17:46 PM
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Your future judges will be the socially "progressive and woke" ( regressive and asleep on their way to damnation) class who will ensure "Good is eVil" and "eVil is good" 

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October 07, 2021, 11:19:51 PM
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It's written in the Bible that you cannot serve two masters, you will love the other and you will hate the other, and besides politics is full of corruption, and there's a lot of lies involved in politics, there's a lot of corruption on politics, there a possibility that the Christian's believe will be compromised, the kingdom of the Christians is not in this world.
Are you a Christain? What is your place in this world? Are Christians a different species from man. Why do we choose to alienate ourselves. As it has been from the old days, many so called Christains are hypocrites hiding behind religion
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October 08, 2021, 11:39:21 AM
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many so called Christains are hypocrites hiding behind religion

Many are indeed ...but not all Smiley

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October 08, 2021, 03:47:02 PM
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In my own opinion i do not think you need to force christians to participate in politics if it's against their will  because they have their own beliefs and principles. Politics involves corruption and i know that they are real evil especially when they hold such power to control everything. They're liars.

That's why i understood why christians don't want to support such system.

Don't you think if Christian's should go into they can change the evil ways that is a custom in politics . It is better to go and change things than staying a way from politics having a mindset that politics accommodates evil

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October 08, 2021, 04:05:41 PM
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In my own opinion i do not think you need to force christians to participate in politics if it's against their will  because they have their own beliefs and principles. Politics involves corruption and i know that they are real evil especially when they hold such power to control everything. They're liars.

That's why i understood why christians don't want to support such system.

As a Christian myself, I don't think that being in this religious group is a reason for not voting and such. Christians believes in mercy, salvation, and forgiveness as such we don't want to judge others for any reason that you might think of.

Christianity or any other religion will never be a reason for any individual to stop from participating in this government changing activities, it is their own personality themselves.
I'm not a christian myself and you do have a point but you might have misunderstood the message. I'm not saying all christians does not like to participate in politics. I am simply referring to those christians who doesn't like to be a part of the system in politics. There are many people out there who are christians with different personality and characteristics.

That is why i included this part of the sentence. 
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