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Basically this, as much as I dislike promoters due to the fact they delay and some times are the main obstacles for the fights we want to see, they know their business way better than we do, if Arum needs a bigger share of the purse for him and his fighters but he can make the fight bigger with his promotion then that 30% for Casimero can become higher than the 50% as he uses his influence to hype the fight, and if the purse is too small for him then he will reduce his investment in the fight in order to become profitable which will reduce the profits for both fighters.
If only no pandemic happened, we shouldn't end up discussing these delays. It really affects the boxing business and promoters are sometimes hesitant to continue the original plan. Remember that when sports slowly came back, Arum is one of the big sports personalities that push lots of boxing matches on their lineup even without an assurance that no profits will be made since there are no ticket sales and they will only rely on PPV. Going back to the topic, Casimero's camp assured that once he won the fight against Butler, Naoya Inoue will be next. Naoya Inoue up next for Casimero if he wins upcoming fight
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November 08, 2021, 11:47:45 PM |
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What if he lose? Anyway, it's really a small amount that he'll be getting on this fight against Butler that's why they're now talking about his next potential fight. We can now be assured that there's no problem with Casimero going on in with Inoue after this match. But is the flame is still with Inoue to fight against Casimero? Hopefully that there's no problem to him after the Butler match.
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November 09, 2021, 06:02:30 AM |
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What if he lose?
Anyway, it's really a small amount that he'll be getting on this fight against Butler that's why they're now talking about his next potential fight. We can now be assured that there's no problem with Casimero going on in with Inoue after this match.
But is the flame is still with Inoue to fight against Casimero? Hopefully that there's no problem to him after the Butler match.
If he loses he will also lose his chance to fight Inoue and maybe Donaire will get the chance to step on the ring to fight him for the second chance. I think Inoue has never been in a close fight like that with Donaire but still, he got some power so, at the end of the day, he won the fight. If ever Casimero managed to beat Butler with no problem, then there's no other fighter he can stop him other than Inoue.
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November 09, 2021, 06:39:59 AM |
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What if he lose?
Anyway, it's really a small amount that he'll be getting on this fight against Butler that's why they're now talking about his next potential fight. We can now be assured that there's no problem with Casimero going on in with Inoue after this match.
But is the flame is still with Inoue to fight against Casimero? Hopefully that there's no problem to him after the Butler match.
If he loses he will also lose his chance to fight Inoue and maybe Donaire will get the chance to step on the ring to fight him for the second chance. I think Inoue has never been in a close fight like that with Donaire but still, he got some power so, at the end of the day, he won the fight. If ever Casimero managed to beat Butler with no problem, then there's no other fighter he can stop him other than Inoue. I have no doubt that Casimero can beat Butler because regarding their record and skills it is casimero that has advantage . but of course this is boxing and everyone has a chance beating their opponent depend on their chances . But for sure he will do everything to win in this bout to make way to His dream fight and that is against Inoue .
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November 09, 2021, 09:29:46 PM |
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Looks like the venue and date for this fight have been finalized already, per below it would be held in Dubai, and also it will be a double championship fight. There are many Filipinos in Dubai and Casimero is comfortable fighting in Dubai as I think he has the crowd support and no problem adapting to the climate once he will be there, unlike if this fight will be held in the UK where it's almost winter there. PROBELLUM presents REVOLUTION: PH 🇵🇭 vs UK 🇬🇧 Double World Title Championship Fights on Dec.11 at the Coca Cola Arena in Dubai UAE! WBO World Bantamweight Championship 🇵🇭(c) Johnriel Casimero (31-4,21) 🆚 🇬🇧(1) Paul Butler (33-2,15) IBF World Flyweight Championship 🇬🇧(c) Sunny Edwards (16-0,4) 🆚 🇵🇭(3) Jason Mama (16-0,9) Superflyweight World Title Eliminator 🇵🇭Donnie Nietes vs TBA
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November 09, 2021, 09:52:19 PM |
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What if he lose?
Anyway, it's really a small amount that he'll be getting on this fight against Butler that's why they're now talking about his next potential fight. We can now be assured that there's no problem with Casimero going on in with Inoue after this match.
But is the flame is still with Inoue to fight against Casimero? Hopefully that there's no problem to him after the Butler match.
If he loses he will also lose his chance to fight Inoue and maybe Donaire will get the chance to step on the ring to fight him for the second chance. I think Inoue has never been in a close fight like that with Donaire but still, he got some power so, at the end of the day, he won the fight. If ever Casimero managed to beat Butler with no problem, then there's no other fighter he can stop him other than Inoue. I have no doubt that Casimero can beat Butler because regarding their record and skills it is casimero that has advantage . but of course this is boxing and everyone has a chance beating their opponent depend on their chances . But for sure he will do everything to win in this bout to make way to His dream fight and that is against Inoue . He should really win up on every possible fights that would be inline on him so that he would totally able to reach out on fighting Inoue on the peak. If he would lost up this fight then that would surely be blocking that kind of probability for that fight to happen on where he had been longing for so long. For now he do need to arrange and sweep up on whats been thrown and then later on he might really be fighting Inoue after the long wait.
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November 09, 2021, 11:09:50 PM |
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What if he lose?
Anyway, it's really a small amount that he'll be getting on this fight against Butler that's why they're now talking about his next potential fight. We can now be assured that there's no problem with Casimero going on in with Inoue after this match.
But is the flame is still with Inoue to fight against Casimero? Hopefully that there's no problem to him after the Butler match.
If he loses he will also lose his chance to fight Inoue and maybe Donaire will get the chance to step on the ring to fight him for the second chance. I think Inoue has never been in a close fight like that with Donaire but still, he got some power so, at the end of the day, he won the fight. If ever Casimero managed to beat Butler with no problem, then there's no other fighter he can stop him other than Inoue. Donaire might surely go for Inoue once he's also done for his match. But this triangle of fighters, we don't know what's really on the head for them but if Casimero tells that after he wins, he'll go for Inoue. I think then Donaire has to win against Gaballo and then they'll start to get some talks again. We're just getting the source from everytime there's a release of updates from these boxers.
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November 10, 2021, 05:21:50 PM |
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Looks like the venue and date for this fight have been finalized already, per below it would be held in Dubai, and also it will be a double championship fight. There are many Filipinos in Dubai and Casimero is comfortable fighting in Dubai as I think he has the crowd support and no problem adapting to the climate once he will be there, unlike if this fight will be held in the UK where it's almost winter there. PROBELLUM presents REVOLUTION: PH 🇵🇭 vs UK 🇬🇧 Double World Title Championship Fights on Dec.11 at the Coca Cola Arena in Dubai UAE! WBO World Bantamweight Championship 🇵🇭(c) Johnriel Casimero (31-4,21) 🆚 🇬🇧(1) Paul Butler (33-2,15) IBF World Flyweight Championship 🇬🇧(c) Sunny Edwards (16-0,4) 🆚 🇵🇭(3) Jason Mama (16-0,9) Superflyweight World Title Eliminator 🇵🇭Donnie Nietes vs TBA
Another legendary Filipino? Donnie Nietes is still fighting? Lol, could be one of the best Filipino fighters besides Manny Pacquaio. Not sure how long Donnie has been in the boxing field already, but he is one of the most durable champions we have. So now that we have a venue and it will happened on the same date as the fight of Donaire on the other part of the globe. And goodluck to all Filipinos who are in the card.
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November 10, 2021, 05:26:17 PM |
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^^ At least after a lot of speculation on where Casimero's fight will be held, it was finalized in Middle East. Good venue though, as we all know that Dubai is one of the richest country so for sure the tickets can be sold without any problems. Just wondering the PPV though in the US, maybe they will also have to adjust to the timezone to be able to watch.
So exactly, one month from now, we will see Casimero taking his brandish style against a tough challenger Butler.
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November 10, 2021, 08:56:00 PM |
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^^ At least after a lot of speculation on where Casimero's fight will be held, it was finalized in Middle East. Good venue though, as we all know that Dubai is one of the richest country so for sure the tickets can be sold without any problems. Just wondering the PPV though in the US, maybe they will also have to adjust to the timezone to be able to watch.
So exactly, one month from now, we will see Casimero taking his brandish style against a tough challenger Butler.
Wont be an assurance though but its good that it would be held on Middle East but honestly it wont really be that much of a concern because any venue would still generate good revenue for the said fight! Cant still be sure about solding out tickets but presuming on how rich that country is then we could really tell that it is most likely to happen. Butter is indeed a tough opponent but on every angle you do tend to look at then you could still say that Casimero is still on the edge but he shouldnt really be that confident because there's always that lucky punch that could take you down.
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November 10, 2021, 09:16:11 PM |
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So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .
Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.
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November 10, 2021, 09:22:05 PM |
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So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .
Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.
Yup, Dubai is the place. Don't worry, Casimero can back the talk ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Trash-talking seems to be part of the strategy to sell fight and often times it is effective and sometimes not. In boxing, they said that there is no such thing as an easy fight but this Butler fight is just a warm-up fight for bigger things to come for Casimero considering that he won't let his guards down IMO.
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November 10, 2021, 09:51:58 PM |
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Looks like the venue and date for this fight have been finalized already, per below it would be held in Dubai, and also it will be a double championship fight. There are many Filipinos in Dubai and Casimero is comfortable fighting in Dubai as I think he has the crowd support and no problem adapting to the climate once he will be there, unlike if this fight will be held in the UK where it's almost winter there. PROBELLUM presents REVOLUTION: PH 🇵🇭 vs UK 🇬🇧 Double World Title Championship Fights on Dec.11 at the Coca Cola Arena in Dubai UAE! WBO World Bantamweight Championship 🇵🇭(c) Johnriel Casimero (31-4,21) 🆚 🇬🇧(1) Paul Butler (33-2,15) IBF World Flyweight Championship 🇬🇧(c) Sunny Edwards (16-0,4) 🆚 🇵🇭(3) Jason Mama (16-0,9) Superflyweight World Title Eliminator 🇵🇭Donnie Nietes vs TBA
Thanks for the update, I think we only have 2 Filipinos in this fight but it's actually 3 because Jason Mama is also a Filipino as we can see in https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/747056... I'm not familiar with this kid but he has a good record, an undefeated with 16 wins and 9 from it are from KO.
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November 10, 2021, 10:35:58 PM |
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Looks like the venue and date for this fight have been finalized already, per below it would be held in Dubai, and also it will be a double championship fight. There are many Filipinos in Dubai and Casimero is comfortable fighting in Dubai as I think he has the crowd support and no problem adapting to the climate once he will be there, unlike if this fight will be held in the UK where it's almost winter there. PROBELLUM presents REVOLUTION: PH 🇵🇭 vs UK 🇬🇧 Double World Title Championship Fights on Dec.11 at the Coca Cola Arena in Dubai UAE! WBO World Bantamweight Championship -
Thanks for the update, I think we only have 2 Filipinos in this fight but it's actually 3 because Jason Mama is also a Filipino as we can see in https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/747056... I'm not familiar with this kid but he has a good record, an undefeated with 16 wins and 9 from it are from KO. with the venue at dubai, maybe they can generate good money with the gate purse here. because the published purse bid between casimero and butler is only $105k, which we know is only small amount as compared to other boxing matches. at least they can get revenue from other sources here.
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November 10, 2021, 10:45:00 PM |
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So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .
Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.
Yup, Dubai is the place. Don't worry, Casimero can back the talk ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Trash-talking seems to be part of the strategy to sell fight and often times it is effective and sometimes not. In boxing, they said that there is no such thing as an easy fight but this Butler fight is just a warm-up fight for bigger things to come for Casimero considering that he won't let his guards down IMO. Warm up fight for Butler? I dont think so and he shouldnt really be that confident on fighting with Casimero.Not to say about their capabilities but i could say that Casimero is indeed capable on beating him so he shouldnt really make those big talks before the fight but its right that trashtalks is really part of the business for them to sell out the fight and able to get more revenue but this is much better than compared into those exhibition fights that we do have right now. Its worth of spending some bucks rather than into those circus dance.
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November 10, 2021, 11:35:58 PM |
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So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .
Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.
Yup, Dubai is the place. Don't worry, Casimero can back the talk ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Trash-talking seems to be part of the strategy to sell fight and often times it is effective and sometimes not. In boxing, they said that there is no such thing as an easy fight but this Butler fight is just a warm-up fight for bigger things to come for Casimero considering that he won't let his guards down IMO. Yep, that's one thing about Casimero though, he is so much brandish and talk talking seem to be the norm of his. But he can back it up but knocking down his opponents in fashion. Just look at what happen to Duke Micah in their last fight. Duke trying to bring the fight to John Riel, hitting him hard, but Casimero response back with a good knock down and Micah didn't recover after that. His face but bang up by Casimero's punches.
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November 10, 2021, 11:49:27 PM |
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So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .
Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.
Yup, Dubai is the place. Don't worry, Casimero can back the talk ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Trash-talking seems to be part of the strategy to sell fight and often times it is effective and sometimes not. In boxing, they said that there is no such thing as an easy fight but this Butler fight is just a warm-up fight for bigger things to come for Casimero considering that he won't let his guards down IMO. Warm up fight for Butler? I dont think so and he shouldnt really be that confident on fighting with Casimero.Not to say about their capabilities but i could say that Casimero is indeed capable on beating him so he shouldnt really make those big talks before the fight but its right that trashtalks is really part of the business for them to sell out the fight and able to get more revenue but this is much better than compared into those exhibition fights that we do have right now. Its worth of spending some bucks rather than into those circus dance. Most definitely, we have 3 Filipino fighters in the fight night and that's gonna make this fight more exciting since every fight you'll know who to cheer with. Casimero is the champion here, so it's normal to think that we believe he will win so he will get the big fight that he has been chasing for a while now.
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November 11, 2021, 12:59:11 AM |
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So within a Month time now Middle East is the place ? now Casimero must Show how tough His Hands than His Mouth after delivering too much Badmouthing the past months .
Though I am aiming for Him to Win over Butler because i also wanted Him to face Inoue to see if he can take the Monster that Donaire did not achieve in His first try.
Yup, Dubai is the place. Don't worry, Casimero can back the talk ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Trash-talking seems to be part of the strategy to sell fight and often times it is effective and sometimes not. In boxing, they said that there is no such thing as an easy fight but this Butler fight is just a warm-up fight for bigger things to come for Casimero considering that he won't let his guards down IMO. Warm up fight for Butler? I dont think so and he shouldnt really be that confident on fighting with Casimero.Not to say about their capabilities but i could say that Casimero is indeed capable on beating him so he shouldnt really make those big talks before the fight but its right that trashtalks is really part of the business for them to sell out the fight and able to get more revenue but this is much better than compared into those exhibition fights that we do have right now. Its worth of spending some bucks rather than into those circus dance. Maybe what he meant is that for a preparation for a bigger fight like Nonito or Inoue in the future. But for sure Casimero are not going to take the fight against Butler lightly, he wanted to show the world has powerful fighter he is. That's why we are expecting a knock out coming from him because he is really destroying everyone leading up to the belt he won against Tete and then defended it already.
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November 11, 2021, 09:19:58 AM |
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Maybe what he meant is that for a preparation for a bigger fight like Nonito or Inoue in the future.
But for sure Casimero are not going to take the fight against Butler lightly, he wanted to show the world has powerful fighter he is. That's why we are expecting a knock out coming from him because he is really destroying everyone leading up to the belt he won against Tete and then defended it already.
Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event.
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November 11, 2021, 10:38:08 AM |
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Maybe what he meant is that for a preparation for a bigger fight like Nonito or Inoue in the future.
But for sure Casimero are not going to take the fight against Butler lightly, he wanted to show the world has powerful fighter he is. That's why we are expecting a knock out coming from him because he is really destroying everyone leading up to the belt he won against Tete and then defended it already.
Well since Casimero is dreaming to have a big fight with Inoue or in Donaire of course he shouldn't have to take this upcoming game of him with butler that easy fight. Though Casimero has already proven his capability, his skills inside the ring but this time I believe that he needs to win this game probably a knock down win rate for a more big fight for his career in the following days. This Upcoming game enticing every boxing fans because of two big names involve in the same date, Casimero and Donaire fight in the same event. He will not became a champion if he will take his opponent as an easy one and maybe we can see him being nasty on social media but in reality for sure he will do all things that needed so that he will be more prepared on this fight since remember there are so many at stake for him on this fight and its a big shame for him to be lost on the fight and for sure he will lose the chances to fight either Inoue or Donaire if he will think about those things and play cool on this match.
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