[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[Distinctin]

As far as I can see, most of you bet on win of Casimero. I also think his hand will go up at the end of this fight.
You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

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[Russlenat]

As far as I can see, most of you bet on win of Casimero. I also think his hand will go up at the end of this fight.
You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

Before his order came out, there was a rumor already that Casimero is going to fight Inoue next month. \

John Riel Casimero says he will fight Naoya Inoue in December

Three-division world champion John RIel Casimero said he will fight undefeated Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue later this year.

In a YouTube video posted on Monday, the WBO world bantamweight said he will fight Inoue in December.

I think they already have an initial talk but unfortunately, this came in bad timing, so let's see next year if we can finally see the match that we like to see, and of course, you are right, Casimero has to beat Butler first who is blocking that from happening.

[blockman]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

[agustina2]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.

Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.

[sovie]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.

Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.

I was just wondering about that. I know it's rather unlikely, because for me Casimero is also the favorite of this match. But lets suppose Butler beats Casimero. Do you think it is possible for Butler to get a chance to fight Inoue in this situation?

[harizen]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

End of the discussion between Inoue vs Casimero.

It needs again lots of prior fights for Casimero before getting attention to Inoue. There's no sense to push for the fight against Inoue if Casimero will not able to beat Butler. We are talking about a champion Inoue here and to challenge him, you must come from a fresh win.

But lets suppose Butler beats Casimero. Do you think it is possible for Butler to get a chance to fight Inoue in this situation?

That's possible only if Butler's camp is interested. As we know, there's no heated conversation history between Butler and Inoue to start the flame.

[blockman]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.

Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.

Yes, there's already the talk about and a certain date that Casimero has told. But all of a sudden, there's this news from the WBO that he has to fight Butler first. We're all thinking that it's already going to be Inoue and Casimero at the end of this year but there's a quick change of expectancy from the fighter. I don't want to underestimate Butler although Casimero is really a strong fighter but no choice but to let this match happen for Casimero to move further.

[Baofeng]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.

Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.

Yes, there's already the talk about and a certain date that Casimero has told. But all of a sudden, there's this news from the WBO that he has to fight Butler first. We're all thinking that it's already going to be Inoue and Casimero at the end of this year but there's a quick change of expectancy from the fighter. I don't want to underestimate Butler although Casimero is really a strong fighter but no choice but to let this match happen for Casimero to move further.

I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.

So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.

And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.

[Viscore]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.

Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.

Yes, there's already the talk about and a certain date that Casimero has told. But all of a sudden, there's this news from the WBO that he has to fight Butler first. We're all thinking that it's already going to be Inoue and Casimero at the end of this year but there's a quick change of expectancy from the fighter. I don't want to underestimate Butler although Casimero is really a strong fighter but no choice but to let this match happen for Casimero to move further.

I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.

So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.

And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.

So what happened to the statement of Inoue?
Naoya Inoue responds to Casimero’s taunts: ‘Please organize a match’

If Inoue cannot make this happen then it's really true that Bob Arum just wants to play safe. Inoue is still his cash cow and as long as Inoue will not fight a high caliber fighter, he will be able to maintain his undefeated record.

[carlisle1]

So what happened to the statement of Inoue?
Naoya Inoue responds to Casimero’s taunts: ‘Please organize a match’

If Inoue cannot make this happen then it's really true that Bob Arum just wants to play safe. Inoue is still his cash cow and as long as Inoue will not fight a high caliber fighter, he will be able to maintain his undefeated record.

Hypes for now, but it can't be avoided if Casimero will keep on winning, time will come and these two champs will meet inside the ring.

Promoters love seeing the interest of the fans between these two fighters. Remember how Mayweather did
before fighting Pacquiao, he has lots of alibis before everything takes place.

That fight brings a huge amount of money for these two fighters, but there's nothing special Mayweather does his
usual routine, run and protect to avoid having serious damages.

[dunfida]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.

Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.

Yes, there's already the talk about and a certain date that Casimero has told. But all of a sudden, there's this news from the WBO that he has to fight Butler first. We're all thinking that it's already going to be Inoue and Casimero at the end of this year but there's a quick change of expectancy from the fighter. I don't want to underestimate Butler although Casimero is really a strong fighter but no choice but to let this match happen for Casimero to move further.

I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.

So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.

And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.

So what happened to the statement of Inoue?
Naoya Inoue responds to Casimero’s taunts: ‘Please organize a match’

If Inoue cannot make this happen then it's really true that Bob Arum just wants to play safe. Inoue is still his cash cow and as long as Inoue will not fight a high caliber fighter, he will be able to maintain his undefeated record.

So you say that Inoue isnt a high calibre fighter? Well, i do agree that Arum might be protecting his cashcow for now but when the hype is already on the roof then he might really be considering on allowing this fight

to happen but who knows? We dont know on whats up to their minds when it comes on setting out fights depending on situation or being organized which it isnt surprising.

I could say that Casimero is something that Inoue could really fear off but this wont be settled until an official fight happens.

[blockman]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.

Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.

Yes, there's already the talk about and a certain date that Casimero has told. But all of a sudden, there's this news from the WBO that he has to fight Butler first. We're all thinking that it's already going to be Inoue and Casimero at the end of this year but there's a quick change of expectancy from the fighter. I don't want to underestimate Butler although Casimero is really a strong fighter but no choice but to let this match happen for Casimero to move further.

I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.

So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.

And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.

There's the tense and both fighters want to fight each other. Yeah, it wasn't placed on the right forum because they're just talking as if there's already a settlement that they're about to fight together. And when the day of the said match is about to come, Casimero is probably surprised and as well as Inoue that there should be a match for Casimero to finish first. I believed when Casimero said a date that their match of Inoue would probably come by this December since it's him. But, it shows that and we learned that it's their promoters that are going to have the assurance of their matches.

[Silberman]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

[freedomgo]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

We can only say that he is determined to prove he is the best in the division if he will accept the challenge of Casimero.

In this fight, Casimero will likely win as he has all the advantages, so Inoue has to make sure he will prepare for the fight next year so we will see a big fight, not against Donaire but it should be against Casimero who he never fought before.

[Distinctin]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

Casimero has no other target but to fight Inoue, we could also see a Donaire vs Casimero but since they are on the same promotion, the possibility is very low now. I know Casimero would win this fight as he was disappointed a bit on his last fight because Rigo runs that he could not implement his plan effectively, but this time around against an aggressive fighter we can expect a KO win from him.

[Yaunfitda]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

[btc_angela]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

I think it was just media talk, no definite fight for the two, it was just blown out of some boxing media outlets specially when Casimero started his trash talking and Inoue responded that he wanted the fight to happen, but that's all we got.

That's why majority are surprised to hear that suddenly the WBO ordered Casimero to fight Butler. But that's boxing is, business, so with the postponement of Inoue fight, Bob Arum creates a lot of hype for his new cash cow Inoue an will wait for the right time to match them.

[carlisle1]

Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.

There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.
So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.

I think it was just media talk, no definite fight for the two, it was just blown out of some boxing media outlets specially when Casimero started his trash talking and Inoue responded that he wanted the fight to happen, but that's all we got.

That's why majority are surprised to hear that suddenly the WBO ordered Casimero to fight Butler. But that's boxing is, business, so with the postponement of Inoue fight, Bob Arum creates a lot of hype for his new cash cow Inoue an will wait for the right time to match them.

I remember that too! It was in social media where both fighters are exchanging posts about the fight.

But there're no talks between their promoters. Casimero will have his chance, that's for sure. Arum can't continue to avoid this possible

fight, sooner or later it will be discussed, Casimero should continue winning with high demands. He will gain more money

whatever the outcome after the fight against Inoue, fans' interest is very important, he should continue making his name internationally.

[bisdak40]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

Unifying the four major belts is the common objective especially now that Canelo Alvarez and Teofimo Lopez have already achieved that fate. So if Inoue, Donaire, and Casimero should not lose a fight to achieve the same. I have high hopes that in the end Casimero and Inoue will be the ones fighting for the crown and make history for themselves to have unified the four belts but first they have to beat their opponents impressively.