[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[Mahanton]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

Unifying the four major belts is the common objective especially now that Canelo Alvarez and Teofimo Lopez have already achieved that fate. So if Inoue, Donaire, and Casimero should not lose a fight to achieve the same. I have high hopes that in the end Casimero and Inoue will be the ones fighting for the crown and make history for themselves to have unified the four belts but first they have to beat their opponents impressively.

When you are tending to make out some records then it would really be good on having some sort of flawless or a good history of wins which is a must if you are really tending to make out some good record or history in the sports of boxing.For now they would really be needing on settling their upcoming fights and lots had hoped
that Inoue vs Casimero would happen happen in the future but for now lets just wait on how they would be making out their decisions.

[ultrloa]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

Unifying the four major belts is the common objective especially now that Canelo Alvarez and Teofimo Lopez have already achieved that fate. So if Inoue, Donaire, and Casimero should not lose a fight to achieve the same. I have high hopes that in the end Casimero and Inoue will be the ones fighting for the crown and make history for themselves to have unified the four belts but first they have to beat their opponents impressively.

When you are tending to make out some records then it would really be good on having some sort of flawless or a good history of wins which is a must if you are really tending to make out some good record or history in the sports of boxing.For now they would really be needing on settling their upcoming fights and lots had hoped
that Inoue vs Casimero would happen happen in the future but for now lets just wait on how they would be making out their decisions.

Impressive record will make you a legend and for sure you will face so many good opponents which can increase your value once you have that flawless or what you could good records in your career. But anyways many hope to see a good result on upcoming fight since many fans crazily want to see the Inoue vs Casimero fight to be done by them and we can really see on this thread that many people talk about it and how much more outside of it, so Casimero really need to knock off his opponent badly so that he will not discourage or make his fans turn off to him.

[TravelMug]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

Unifying the four major belts is the common objective especially now that Canelo Alvarez and Teofimo Lopez have already achieved that fate. So if Inoue, Donaire, and Casimero should not lose a fight to achieve the same. I have high hopes that in the end Casimero and Inoue will be the ones fighting for the crown and make history for themselves to have unified the four belts but first they have to beat their opponents impressively.

Not sure if that is the end goal for more boxers, for me still business though, make more money when you are in your prime, regardless if you can unify the belts on or not.

Of course it will be good if you can unify if, but sometimes, if becomes a hindrance, those major organisations requires certain fees to let their boxers fights against each other for the records book. And we are not sure if either Casimero or Inoue's manager are willing to pay that hefty price.

But I do agree, I'm more wanting to see a Casimero vs Inoue clash, prime for prime fighters. Donaire is too old to face Inoue at this point.

[Pamadar]

Not sure if that is the end goal for more boxers, for me still business though, make more money when you are in your prime, regardless if you can unify the belts on or not.

Of course it will be good if you can unify if, but sometimes, if becomes a hindrance, those major organisations requires certain fees to let their boxers fights against each other for the records book. And we are not sure if either Casimero or Inoue's manager are willing to pay that hefty price.

But I do agree, I'm more wanting to see a Casimero vs Inoue clash, prime for prime fighters. Donaire is too old to face Inoue at this point.

More on practicality, nowadays fighters do learn from those past generations of champ,

they are more on the money to fight than trying to beat everyone from their divisions. Promoters understand that as long as the fighters are winning, fans will continue to support. The money will keep flowing whoever the opponent is.

Like you, I also wanted to see Casimero and Inoue to face each other while they are on their prime. The outcome will dictate who really the monster in this division.

[passwordnow]

Not sure if that is the end goal for more boxers, for me still business though, make more money when you are in your prime, regardless if you can unify the belts on or not.

Of course it will be good if you can unify if, but sometimes, if becomes a hindrance, those major organisations requires certain fees to let their boxers fights against each other for the records book. And we are not sure if either Casimero or Inoue's manager are willing to pay that hefty price.

But I do agree, I'm more wanting to see a Casimero vs Inoue clash, prime for prime fighters. Donaire is too old to face Inoue at this point.

There's always money in line if there's sort of settlements for such records. Everyone is just wanting to let this Butler - Casimero match happen and end as soon as possible.
It's more of Casimero-Inoue that has already been saying before but there's no contract yet and that's why WBO managed to order and got in before their match. But again, it became unknown and we still have to wait until it comes.

[Maslate]

Not sure if that is the end goal for more boxers, for me still business though, make more money when you are in your prime, regardless if you can unify the belts on or not.

Of course it will be good if you can unify if, but sometimes, if becomes a hindrance, those major organisations requires certain fees to let their boxers fights against each other for the records book. And we are not sure if either Casimero or Inoue's manager are willing to pay that hefty price.

But I do agree, I'm more wanting to see a Casimero vs Inoue clash, prime for prime fighters. Donaire is too old to face Inoue at this point.

There's always money in line if there's sort of settlements for such records. Everyone is just wanting to let this Butler - Casimero match happen and end as soon as possible.
It's more of Casimero-Inoue that has already been saying before but there's no contract yet and that's why WBO managed to order and got in before their match. But again, it became unknown and we still have to wait until it comes.

Definitely, we want to make it happen and expect that Casimero will win so Inoue will find no excuse and sign the contract for a big fight. Inoue vs Casimero should be the biggest in their division, and it's going to be a unification match so it's the fans that are making it mandatory for them to fight and hopefully they'll both comply with that.

[passwordnow]

Not sure if that is the end goal for more boxers, for me still business though, make more money when you are in your prime, regardless if you can unify the belts on or not.

Of course it will be good if you can unify if, but sometimes, if becomes a hindrance, those major organisations requires certain fees to let their boxers fights against each other for the records book. And we are not sure if either Casimero or Inoue's manager are willing to pay that hefty price.

But I do agree, I'm more wanting to see a Casimero vs Inoue clash, prime for prime fighters. Donaire is too old to face Inoue at this point.

There's always money in line if there's sort of settlements for such records. Everyone is just wanting to let this Butler - Casimero match happen and end as soon as possible.
It's more of Casimero-Inoue that has already been saying before but there's no contract yet and that's why WBO managed to order and got in before their match. But again, it became unknown and we still have to wait until it comes.

Definitely, we want to make it happen and expect that Casimero will win so Inoue will find no excuse and sign the contract for a big fight. Inoue vs Casimero should be the biggest in their division, and it's going to be a unification match so it's the fans that are making it mandatory for them to fight and hopefully they'll both comply with that.

It's much better that win or lose, Inoue will just have to wait for Casimero to end this match. And I think with 2-3 months of wait just after this match, that would be enough for the most awaited match of Inoue-Casimero to happen. Well, the fans are just the ones that want to see the match happen but it still depends on their promoters which is going to be the match that they think will fit for Casimero. It seems that Casimero's taking attention has been so effective for himself.

[goinmerry]

It's more of Casimero-Inoue that has already been saying before but there's no contract yet and that's why WBO managed to order and got in before their match. But again, it became unknown and we still have to wait until it comes.

It's only hyped here in that thread but on the overall market, the hype is not yet big. Promoters may be thinking that it's not time yet to re-organized the Casimero vs Inoue match this December. No problem about the numbers that Inoue can attract but for Casimero, he needs to make his name bigger. He was mandatorily assigned to Butler as a challenge for him to make big sounds again if he won.

On the other hand, Butler's name will make sounds too if he beat Casimero. No easy win for Casimero here like others think. Butler should be considered as a serious threat for Quadro Alas.

[LUCKMCFLY]

As far as I can see, most of you bet on win of Casimero. I also think his hand will go up at the end of this fight.
You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?

The truth is that we are all betting on, many do not recognize it, but things can really change if Casimero does not win, and everything can happen, especially in boxing, it must also be determined that this is just a test for the managers and even for the same boxing federation to acquire more money and grow the show, it should be noted that due to the pandemic a lot of money was stopped, and what better way than to wait a bit to make the fight of the year.
Really, any betting operator will always have the advantage Casimero, the bad thing is that everyone is already assuming that Casimero will be the winner and that the fight against Inoue must be squared already, and as in a very famous saying, he quotes: count the chicks before they hatch.

[Kemarit]

It's more of Casimero-Inoue that has already been saying before but there's no contract yet and that's why WBO managed to order and got in before their match. But again, it became unknown and we still have to wait until it comes.

It's only hyped here in that thread but on the overall market, the hype is not yet big. Promoters may be thinking that it's not time yet to re-organized the Casimero vs Inoue match this December. No problem about the numbers that Inoue can attract but for Casimero, he needs to make his name bigger. He was mandatorily assigned to Butler as a challenge for him to make big sounds again if he won.

Yes, it's more of us boxing fans wanting to see the fight happen, and then Casimero and Inoue go on a verbal tuss on their social media. But after that, it didn't materialized, so it's all hype for now.

On the other hand, Butler's name will make sounds too if he beat Casimero. No easy win for Casimero here like others think. Butler should be considered as a serious threat for Quadro Alas.

Casimero though, has used to this kind of fight, going to the boxers home, and then just destroyed them in from of their fans. It's no easy task, but Casimero has done that many times in his career, Butler is no exception.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Not sure if that is the end goal for more boxers, for me still business though, make more money when you are in your prime, regardless if you can unify the belts on or not.

Of course it will be good if you can unify if, but sometimes, if becomes a hindrance, those major organisations requires certain fees to let their boxers fights against each other for the records book. And we are not sure if either Casimero or Inoue's manager are willing to pay that hefty price.

But I do agree, I'm more wanting to see a Casimero vs Inoue clash, prime for prime fighters. Donaire is too old to face Inoue at this point.

There's always money in line if there's sort of settlements for such records. Everyone is just wanting to let this Butler - Casimero match happen and end as soon as possible.
It's more of Casimero-Inoue that has already been saying before but there's no contract yet and that's why WBO managed to order and got in before their match. But again, it became unknown and we still have to wait until it comes.

Definitely, we want to make it happen and expect that Casimero will win so Inoue will find no excuse and sign the contract for a big fight. Inoue vs Casimero should be the biggest in their division, and it's going to be a unification match so it's the fans that are making it mandatory for them to fight and hopefully they'll both comply with that.

It's much better that win or lose, Inoue will just have to wait for Casimero to end this match. And I think with 2-3 months of wait just after this match, that would be enough for the most awaited match of Inoue-Casimero to happen. Well, the fans are just the ones that want to see the match happen but it still depends on their promoters which is going to be the match that they think will fit for Casimero. It seems that Casimero's taking attention has been so effective for himself.

We really can't tell if Inoue are going to wait for this fight or will have to fight another boxer to be busy. So still depends on him an Bob Arum, and as we all know, Bob has the history of protecting his cash cow until he knows that he is going to win.

Casimero is a dangerous opponent for Inoue no question about that. And although we've heard that they are supposed to fight, it didn't happen because maybe Bob doesn't want it to happen and then this whole mandatory come into light.

[Questat]

We really can't tell if Inoue are going to wait for this fight or will have to fight another boxer to be busy.

Inoue does not have to wait for too long, the fight of Casimero will happen this year, so if he wants, they can schedule the fight early next year.
Or if he wants he can have a rematch with Donaire first then Casimero.

So still depends on him an Bob Arum, and as we all know, Bob has the history of protecting his cash cow until he knows that he is going to win.

Casimero is a dangerous opponent for Inoue no question about that. And although we've heard that they are supposed to fight, it didn't happen because maybe Bob doesn't want it to happen and then this whole mandatory come into light.

Inoue won't get a good fight if he will not fight the champions in the same weight class, so if he wants to have big fight, he needs to move up.

[Hypnosis00]

So still depends on him an Bob Arum, and as we all know, Bob has the history of protecting his cash cow until he knows that he is going to win.

Casimero is a dangerous opponent for Inoue no question about that. And although we've heard that they are supposed to fight, it didn't happen because maybe Bob doesn't want it to happen and then this whole mandatory come into light.

Inoue won't get a good fight if he will not fight the champions in the same weight class, so if he wants to have big fight, he needs to move up.

I agree, he needs to move up in weight if he will not fight Casimero, but I'm sure he will not do that as he already mentioned that he will fight Casimero, it's just that this mandatory fight came in and I'm sure Inoue will wait and try to be the undisputed champion in bantam weight division.

[passwordnow]

It's more of Casimero-Inoue that has already been saying before but there's no contract yet and that's why WBO managed to order and got in before their match. But again, it became unknown and we still have to wait until it comes.

It's only hyped here in that thread but on the overall market, the hype is not yet big. Promoters may be thinking that it's not time yet to re-organized the Casimero vs Inoue match this December. No problem about the numbers that Inoue can attract but for Casimero, he needs to make his name bigger. He was mandatorily assigned to Butler as a challenge for him to make big sounds again if he won.

On the other hand, Butler's name will make sounds too if he beat Casimero. No easy win for Casimero here like others think. Butler should be considered as a serious threat for Quadro Alas.

It came from Casimero's mouth that it should be his fight against Inoue on December but everything has changed with WBO's order. After that, all of those speculations were gone and most fans were disappointed. But that's it, this fight with Butler is just another fight that he has to go through and then he'll have it reschedule hopefully with Inoue. I do agree that Casimero has to be serious on this match, he knows it and he won't belittle any fighter he has to fight, it's just going through his mouth but in all seriousness, he won't be careless.

[Mahanton]

Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

Unifying the four major belts is the common objective especially now that Canelo Alvarez and Teofimo Lopez have already achieved that fate. So if Inoue, Donaire, and Casimero should not lose a fight to achieve the same. I have high hopes that in the end Casimero and Inoue will be the ones fighting for the crown and make history for themselves to have unified the four belts but first they have to beat their opponents impressively.

When you are tending to make out some records then it would really be good on having some sort of flawless or a good history of wins which is a must if you are really tending to make out some good record or history in the sports of boxing.For now they would really be needing on settling their upcoming fights and lots had hoped
that Inoue vs Casimero would happen happen in the future but for now lets just wait on how they would be making out their decisions.

Impressive record will make you a legend and for sure you will face so many good opponents which can increase your value once you have that flawless or what you could good records in your career. But anyways many hope to see a good result on upcoming fight since many fans crazily want to see the Inoue vs Casimero fight to be done by them and we can really see on this thread that many people talk about it and how much more outside of it, so Casimero really need to knock off his opponent badly so that he will not discourage or make his fans turn off to him.

Casimero should remain chill and wont really that too aggressive because this do usually end up on bad results because of being careless which he must really see that probability.Most boxers do really aim for those kind of record which do slowly climbing on the top and getting recognized and Casimero is really heading on that way
but he needs to retain on what he had now because losing consecutively would really be giving out some negative impact when it comes to that.
The best thing to do is to beat out hell of a crap of those opponents that he would have along the way until he reaches Inoue.

[Johnyz]

Casimero should remain chill and wont really that too aggressive because this do usually end up on bad results because of being careless which he must really see that probability.Most boxers do really aim for those kind of record which do slowly climbing on the top and getting recognized and Casimero is really heading on that way
but he needs to retain on what he had now because losing consecutively would really be giving out some negative impact when it comes to that.
The best thing to do is to beat out hell of a crap of those opponents that he would have along the way until he reaches Inoue.

Casimero should really learn from his mistakes before and be more focus in he court instead of being too aggressive without even thinking, if he wants to face work champion boxer he must do his best on his fight, I know the next goal is Inoue but he have to focus on this first since Butler is not an easy opponent at all.

[samcrypto]

Casimero should remain chill and wont really that too aggressive because this do usually end up on bad results because of being careless which he must really see that probability.Most boxers do really aim for those kind of record which do slowly climbing on the top and getting recognized and Casimero is really heading on that way
but he needs to retain on what he had now because losing consecutively would really be giving out some negative impact when it comes to that.
The best thing to do is to beat out hell of a crap of those opponents that he would have along the way until he reaches Inoue.

Casimero should really learn from his mistakes before and be more focus in he court instead of being too aggressive without even thinking, if he wants to face work champion boxer he must do his best on his fight, I know the next goal is Inoue but he have to focus on this first since Butler is not an easy opponent at all.

They both aim for the top spot so this is not easy, Butler wont let Casimero to win easily so this is a good match. Next Month most probably we’ll see these two in the ring, hope they have enough time for them to prepare. This match doesn’t hit the mainstream yet, no advertisement so far and I don’t know why but that’s fine since they are still fighting here for the title even if its not on the mainstream.

[Mahanton]

Casimero should remain chill and wont really that too aggressive because this do usually end up on bad results because of being careless which he must really see that probability.Most boxers do really aim for those kind of record which do slowly climbing on the top and getting recognized and Casimero is really heading on that way
but he needs to retain on what he had now because losing consecutively would really be giving out some negative impact when it comes to that.
The best thing to do is to beat out hell of a crap of those opponents that he would have along the way until he reaches Inoue.

Casimero should really learn from his mistakes before and be more focus in he court instead of being too aggressive without even thinking, if he wants to face work champion boxer he must do his best on his fight, I know the next goal is Inoue but he have to focus on this first since Butler is not an easy opponent at all.

They both aim for the top spot so this is not easy, Butler wont let Casimero to win easily so this is a good match. Next Month most probably we’ll see these two in the ring, hope they have enough time for them to prepare. This match doesn’t hit the mainstream yet, no advertisement so far and I don’t know why but that’s fine since they are still fighting here for the title even if its not on the mainstream.

No advertisement so far but its just not right on marketing on it too early until the fight day comes which is somewhat expected for something like this to happen.Of course both boxers would really be that

aiming for the peak spot and thats what every boxer do really think about.It is really just depending on how determined they are when it comes to this.They should persevere
and wont really be that careless in regarding into their upcoming fights and so on.

[Silberman]

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

I am really hoping for the same as this is the fight we wanted to see happening and because of the delays the WBO ordered Casimero to fight Butler, however it is not going to be an easy fight and we know that once the fight begins anything can happen and a huge upset could be on the cards if Casimero does not prepare properly against an opponent he is convinced he can beat, in any case I still think Inoue vs Casimero will happen even in that scenario, but if it happens as an unification fight the hype will be huge and it will be even more exciting just by that factor alone.

[Vaculin]

At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.

Right, every boxer really wanted to proved they are the best in their division, by becoming the champion and then fighting the other champions an challenger and sweeping that division. So even if Casimero lost, Inoue will have to fight him eventually. I do hope though that there will be no surprises. Casimero win this fight then it will be Casimero vs Inoue next. And that is what fans are waiting to see next year, and it's going to be huge for this division.

I am really hoping for the same as this is the fight we wanted to see happening and because of the delays the WBO ordered Casimero to fight Butler, however it is not going to be an easy fight and we know that once the fight begins anything can happen and a huge upset could be on the cards if Casimero does not prepare properly against an opponent he is convinced he can beat, in any case I still think Inoue vs Casimero will happen even in that scenario, but if it happens as an unification fight the hype will be huge and it will be even more exciting just by that factor alone.

The hype is there already, even before this mandatory fight, the fans are already asking to see a unification fight because they believe that Casimero as a good shot of beating Inoue. I know that Casimero would still be an underdog if he will face Inoue, but at least Inoue will face the best challenger in his division.