[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[TravelMug]

^^ Donaire is old though, I don't think he can carry the torch for us.

Casimero might be a good candidate, but he is somewhat arrogant and boastful, as compare to Manny who is warm hearted that's why he is loved by boxing fans. So not sure if Casimero can be a good boxer to hoist the flag for the Philippines.

In any case, if he wins this fight then he will make us proud again.

And there are a lot of Pinoy campaigning as well, we have Nietes, Magsayo, Sultan, Ancajas and others. But I don't think there will be a fighter like Manny.

[Questat]

^^ Donaire is old though, I don't think he can carry the torch for us.

Casimero might be a good candidate, but he is somewhat arrogant and boastful, as compare to Manny who is warm hearted that's why he is loved by boxing fans. So not sure if Casimero can be a good boxer to hoist the flag for the Philippines.

That's his style, he is not actually boastful in real life, he is just doing that to attract the attention of the people so he can sell his fight. What's important is that even if do a lot of trash talks, but he is very entertaining when he fights as long as the opponent is willing to engage in the fight.

In any case, if he wins this fight then he will make us proud again.

And there are a lot of Pinoy campaigning as well, we have Nietes, Magsayo, Sultan, Ancajas and others. But I don't think there will be a fighter like Manny.

I hope these young fighters will become a champion soon, especially for Magsayo who will have a big fight coming next year.

[passwordnow]

Casimero might be a good candidate, but he is somewhat arrogant and boastful, as compare to Manny who is warm hearted that's why he is loved by boxing fans. So not sure if Casimero can be a good boxer to hoist the flag for the Philippines.

People are really disliking what Casimero is acting on cam and with the bad boy that he's portraying. The guy knows what he's doing and it's just for the impression of being a tough guy.
But I've watched some personal videos of him and I found him the same as what we are. It's just in the reel but he's totally real and different when it's not about boxing.

[ultrloa]

Casimero might be a good candidate, but he is somewhat arrogant and boastful, as compare to Manny who is warm hearted that's why he is loved by boxing fans. So not sure if Casimero can be a good boxer to hoist the flag for the Philippines.

People are really disliking what Casimero is acting on cam and with the bad boy that he's portraying. The guy knows what he's doing and it's just for the impression of being a tough guy.
But I've watched some personal videos of him and I found him the same as what we are. It's just in the reel but he's totally real and different when it's not about boxing.

Its part of strategy and that's how he make a noise in boxing scene so don't be surprise if he do that since its part of the selling strategy so that they will make the fans feel more excited to their upcoming fight. But we can't deny that Casimero is good and he have something to say towards what he show. So I guess maybe see the entertaining aspect about this fight since if we take his action seriously for sure we will get pissed off on him.

[Dave1]

Casimero might be a good candidate, but he is somewhat arrogant and boastful, as compare to Manny who is warm hearted that's why he is loved by boxing fans. So not sure if Casimero can be a good boxer to hoist the flag for the Philippines.

People are really disliking what Casimero is acting on cam and with the bad boy that he's portraying. The guy knows what he's doing and it's just for the impression of being a tough guy.
But I've watched some personal videos of him and I found him the same as what we are. It's just in the reel but he's totally real and different when it's not about boxing.

Its part of strategy and that's how he make a noise in boxing scene so don't be surprise if he do that since its part of the selling strategy so that they will make the fans feel more excited to their upcoming fight. But we can't deny that Casimero is good and he have something to say towards what he show. So I guess maybe see the entertaining aspect about this fight since if we take his action seriously for sure we will get pissed off on him.

Sometimes it is really effective strategy for a boxer, he can make a lot of noise doing all the trash talking in public before a fight and totally back it up and knocking down opponents. But there could be boxing fans who want Casimero to be the cool guy and not to be trash talker.

I guess we can't take that away from him, it's too late, he already made a name for himself.

So come fight now, hopefully his winning streak will continue with a good win against Butler.

[TravelMug]

Casimero might be a good candidate, but he is somewhat arrogant and boastful, as compare to Manny who is warm hearted that's why he is loved by boxing fans. So not sure if Casimero can be a good boxer to hoist the flag for the Philippines.

People are really disliking what Casimero is acting on cam and with the bad boy that he's portraying. The guy knows what he's doing and it's just for the impression of being a tough guy.
But I've watched some personal videos of him and I found him the same as what we are. It's just in the reel but he's totally real and different when it's not about boxing.

Well Pacquiao can also portray that before, specially when he is going up in weight, that's really one bad mofo destroying everyone. But he chooses not to, as compare to Casimero which is so brandish and as I have said, we haven't seen Pinoy's in the past being this arrogant or portraying to be one. If this is for the boxing world, then good and hope that he can maintain his image like this because once he suffers a humiliating it might backfire on him, like Lopez when he lost to Kambosos.

[bisdak40]

Damn, this fight is canceled due to Casimero's medical condition. Have not seen the official announcement yet but unfortunately, this fight will not push through and Paul Butler will get a new opponent, Joseph Agbeko I think will be the replacement fighter.

Wow, I never thought that this could end this way, karma for Casimero for all the trash-talking to Inoue  ?

[passwordnow]

Casimero might be a good candidate, but he is somewhat arrogant and boastful, as compare to Manny who is warm hearted that's why he is loved by boxing fans. So not sure if Casimero can be a good boxer to hoist the flag for the Philippines.

People are really disliking what Casimero is acting on cam and with the bad boy that he's portraying. The guy knows what he's doing and it's just for the impression of being a tough guy.
But I've watched some personal videos of him and I found him the same as what we are. It's just in the reel but he's totally real and different when it's not about boxing.

Well Pacquiao can also portray that before, specially when he is going up in weight, that's really one bad mofo destroying everyone. But he chooses not to, as compare to Casimero which is so brandish and as I have said, we haven't seen Pinoy's in the past being this arrogant or portraying to be one. If this is for the boxing world, then good and hope that he can maintain his image like this because once he suffers a humiliating it might backfire on him, like Lopez when he lost to Kambosos.

No, he didn't choose. He really doesn't have to choose to be looking a bad guy. He's already the angst through his matches and he got the love of the people with his charisma. That's why he's called people's champ. Just accept the fact that Casimero is like that and don't be too focused with the character that he's showing to the media, he has to do it as it's part of his portrayal to be like that. So if he's getting you in the nerve, I guess he's doing it perfectly since there really are people that are being moved with his stance and character.

Damn, this fight is canceled due to Casimero's medical condition. Have not seen the official announcement yet but unfortunately, this fight will not push through and Paul Butler will get a new opponent, Joseph Agbeko I think will be the replacement fighter.

Wow, I never thought that this could end this way, karma for Casimero for all the trash-talking to Inoue  ?

For real? With few days to come and then it would change the opponent. What a surprise, but let's wait for some official announcements.

[AmoreJaz]

Damn, this fight is canceled due to Casimero's medical condition. Have not seen the official announcement yet but unfortunately, this fight will not push through and Paul Butler will get a new opponent, Joseph Agbeko I think will be the replacement fighter.

Wow, I never thought that this could end this way, karma for Casimero for all the trash-talking to Inoue  ?

this is unexpected, the news is everywhere now. even the probellum tweets this -  this is owed to viral gastritis and not by covid this time.. i guess, the odds will favour on butler here. because with very short notice, i dont think agbeko is ready for this fight.



https://sports.inquirer.net/444186/john-riel-casimero-out-of-title-defense-vs-paul-butler

you can also, just type casimero in search and you can already see the latest.

don't know how the replacement -- Joseph Agbeko of Ghana, will perform on this very very short notice.

[molsewid]

this is unexpected, the news is everywhere now. even the probellum tweets this -  this is owed to viral gastritis and not by covid this time.. i guess, the odds will favour on butler here. because with very short notice, i dont think agbeko is ready for this fight.



https://sports.inquirer.net/444186/john-riel-casimero-out-of-title-defense-vs-paul-butler

you can also, just type casimero in search and you can already see the latest.

don't know how the replacement -- Joseph Agbeko of Ghana, will perform on this very very short notice.

I'm a bit of surprise by this news, well, I guess it's not only me but many of us here as we are As waiting for this fight for about 2 months ago. As much as we wanted to see Casimero inside the ring still the health of a fighter should always be on top priority. I guess Joseph Agbeko is a good match for Butler and even if it's not Casimero who will be going to fight tomorrow I would still watch the fight. However, I do hope for fast recovery of Casimero and might gonna see him inside the ring by next year on his future fights.

[Botnake]

We have to wait for this big update.

There's no official word yet from the WBO whether Johnriel Casimero has been stripped of his title after a no-show in the weigh-in reportedly due to viral gastritis

source: https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/casimero-out-of-world-title-defense-butler-gets-agbeko-as-new-opponent/

I hope that he get well soon as I still want to see him fight, and I guess he would not be strip with the title since the reason for no-show is valid, it's justs that it killed our excitement to see him fight again.

[Yaunfitda]

Damn, this fight is canceled due to Casimero's medical condition. Have not seen the official announcement yet but unfortunately, this fight will not push through and Paul Butler will get a new opponent, Joseph Agbeko I think will be the replacement fighter.

Wow, I never thought that this could end this way, karma for Casimero for all the trash-talking to Inoue  ?

Wait what? after a long wait? It's really disappointing and sad to hear the news. Wishing John Riel a speedy recovery. Hopefully the WBO will not stripped him because of his medical condition, he just need to show cause to the organization.

So I guess there's no more speculation and this thread might be close for good now by the OP.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

We have to wait for this big update.

There's no official word yet from the WBO whether Johnriel Casimero has been stripped of his title after a no-show in the weigh-in reportedly due to viral gastritis

source: https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/casimero-out-of-world-title-defense-butler-gets-agbeko-as-new-opponent/

I hope that he get well soon as I still want to see him fight, and I guess he would not be strip with the title since the reason for no-show is valid, it's justs that it killed our excitement to see him fight again.

According to this article though:

The 31-year-old Filipino was stripped of his title after being forced to back out of his mandatory defense against England's Paul Butler on Saturday by viral gastritis.

https://www.spin.ph/boxing/casimero-stripped-of-wbo-title-prior-to-fight-against-butler-a793-20211210

Maybe he was having difficulty making the weight and that's why gastritis suddenly pop up in his stomach. But this is just an inflammation so there are cure. However, if the WBO are going to strip him then it's really too bad for him for losing it by not fighting.

[Botnake]

We have to wait for this big update.

There's no official word yet from the WBO whether Johnriel Casimero has been stripped of his title after a no-show in the weigh-in reportedly due to viral gastritis

source: https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/casimero-out-of-world-title-defense-butler-gets-agbeko-as-new-opponent/

I hope that he get well soon as I still want to see him fight, and I guess he would not be strip with the title since the reason for no-show is valid, it's justs that it killed our excitement to see him fight again.

According to this article though:

The 31-year-old Filipino was stripped of his title after being forced to back out of his mandatory defense against England's Paul Butler on Saturday by viral gastritis.

https://www.spin.ph/boxing/casimero-stripped-of-wbo-title-prior-to-fight-against-butler-a793-20211210

Maybe he was having difficulty making the weight and that's why gastritis suddenly pop up in his stomach. But this is just an inflammation so there are cure. However, if the WBO are going to strip him then it's really too bad for him for losing it by not fighting.

Oops..That was really bad news, thanks for this latest news, the news I read was not updated.

Bad Karma for the Filipino trash talker, not sure if he could still come back and get a chance to get back his belt, hopefully, the organization will give him a chance though as it's not his intention to get sick during the fight.

No more Inoue vs Casimero, we might see a Donaire vs Inoue in the future.

[Yamifoud]

So disappointed, I was expecting this fight today and found out it will not gonna happen, and the worst is that Casimero will be stripped of his belt because of this. I don't know what team Casimero is doing, they probably have not prepared for this fight well.

look at the betting odds, it's still up though the fight may not happen.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-vs-butler-paul-61a7d6173719bbfa0169f6c2

[Russlenat]

So disappointed, I was expecting this fight today and found out it will not gonna happen, and the worst is that Casimero will be stripped of his belt because of this. I don't know what team Casimero is doing, they probably have not prepared for this fight well.

look at the betting odds, it's still up though the fight may not happen.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-vs-butler-paul-61a7d6173719bbfa0169f6c2

Let's wait for the odds of Butler vs Casimero's replacement.

It's disappointing indeed but we can't do anything about that, Casimero should not fight as he has a problem, maybe next year he will recover again and take that belt which I'm sure he can as he did not lose that belt inside the ring. When the time comes that Casimero will fight as a challenger, I'm sure he will still be the favorites, nothing would change for sure.

[Fredomago]

So disappointed, I was expecting this fight today and found out it will not gonna happen, and the worst is that Casimero will be stripped of his belt because of this. I don't know what team Casimero is doing, they probably have not prepared for this fight well.

look at the betting odds, it's still up though the fight may not happen.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-vs-butler-paul-61a7d6173719bbfa0169f6c2

Let's wait for the odds of Butler vs Casimero's replacement.

It's disappointing indeed but we can't do anything about that, Casimero should not fight as he has a problem, maybe next year he will recover again and take that belt which I'm sure he can as he did not lose that belt inside the ring. When the time comes that Casimero will fight as a challenger, I'm sure he will still be the favorites, nothing would change for sure.

He will eagerly find the way to recover that belt for sure. Knowing the attitude of this man, he will chase whoever holds the belt and challenge to prove that he deserves to hold it. It's a good chance and more exposure again for him if he beat the new champ, then challenge Inoue again and bring more trash talks.

Sad to hear, though, that he needs to remove his belt because of that health concern. I expect that after his doctors approved of his condition, he will be back in action and train harder.

[Kelvinid]

What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

[goaldigger]

What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

[samcrypto]

What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

This is just a speculation without any basis, and WBO has the authority to do this.
Actually even before this ordered Inoue and Casimero was already in talk regarding their matches, we’re almost there but news suddenly appear and the talk didn’t push through. Let’s wait for the result of this match first, Inoue and Casimero will happen in time.