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December 25, 2021, 09:17:13 PM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.

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December 25, 2021, 09:25:49 PM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.
This is what happens to Manny before against Ugas (and lose the fight). But Butler has no choice, he needs to fight as it was scheduled with the new fighter, not Casimero. If ever he wins, that is something good but not earning the belt.

While the belt is still in Casimero, that will urge him to have a fast recovery. I don't know until when he will hold it but probably once the next fight schedule will be postponed again, I think he gonna lose it on his hand.
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December 25, 2021, 10:44:18 PM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.
Double effort indeed and dealing with postponement wont really be that hard decision since days or time flies away too fast and and this would really be beneficial since they could
really make out more training on that time which it wouldnt really be a waste for their waiting time but we know that boxers arent getting younger which means
that every years passing will really take some toll but well its part of the reality.

Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.

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December 25, 2021, 11:47:28 PM
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Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero.

I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.

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December 26, 2021, 03:23:02 AM
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Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero.

I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.

It's really up to Casimero, if he insists to his manager to get Inoue at all cost then maybe they can negotiate with Bob to seal the fight. However, if Bob says no as he wanted to milk Inoue more then we won't see the fight. Of course this is want we wanted to see, but boxing is business so it will make sense for boxing managers to seek more lucrative money fights instead of unification. Although in the end it will be inevitable as they are the champions in this divisions.

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December 26, 2021, 03:25:02 AM
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Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero.

I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.

It's really up to Casimero, if he insists to his manager to get Inoue at all cost then maybe they can negotiate with Bob to seal the fight. However, if Bob says no as he wanted to milk Inoue more then we won't see the fight. Of course this is want we wanted to see, but boxing is business so it will make sense for boxing managers to seek more lucrative money fights instead of unification. Although in the end it will be inevitable as they are the champions in this divisions.

On the contrary, if they are looking for big money as this is business, would it make sense to match Inoue vs Casimero as there are hype around it?

And for sure regardless of the venues, boxing fans are going to watch it, even if it is going to be held in Japan or in the US. This is one of the most anticipated fight in the lower division and not Donaire vs Inoue.

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December 26, 2021, 03:31:12 AM
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Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero.

I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.

Butler first, then the rest will depend once Casimero wins the fight.

Both names are there in terms of this division, both Inoue and Donaire is a good one for Casimero just need to hype
his name up to bring pressure to both Inoue and Donaire's camp.

Looking forward to see what possible outcome Casimero will do with Butler, a toe to toe exchanging of punches will
be more interesting and entertaining..
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December 26, 2021, 09:10:58 AM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.

I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.

This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.
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December 26, 2021, 11:01:24 AM
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I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.

This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.

It's a fair action that WBO has approached on this case because instead of being easily stripped off the belt and title of Casimero they give a good chance for a fighter to present valid proof of his absence during their weigh-in. I think it would still be great to push through the Butler vs. Casimero and yeah if ever everyone was rooting for Casimero to win the fight because boxing fans wanted to see Casimero vs. Inoue, however, Donaire vs. Inoue are the hyped upcoming fight for now and mostly the anticipated fight next year.
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December 26, 2021, 11:12:29 AM
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I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.

This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.

It's a fair action that WBO has approached on this case because instead of being easily stripped off the belt and title of Casimero they give a good chance for a fighter to present valid proof of his absence during their weigh-in. I think it would still be great to push through the Butler vs. Casimero and yeah if ever everyone was rooting for Casimero to win the fight because boxing fans wanted to see Casimero vs. Inoue, however, Donaire vs. Inoue are the hyped upcoming fight for now and mostly the anticipated fight next year.

Exactly, WBO is fair on their decision and just get on the facts as to why their champion wasn't able to fight on the said schedule date. And he has a valid reasons, so easy decision for the governing body to not stripped Casimero and maybe we will see him finally fight Butler next year. Winner gets Donaire first and then Inoue for unification.
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December 26, 2021, 11:19:31 AM
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We will eventually see the fight between Casimero and Inoue since both fighters will likely stay on their current weight division and as they beat each other opponents, they leave no choice but to finally step on the ring to fight each other. They really need to make it happen since they want total glory and the fans wanted them to prove who is the best in this era. I think this is enough for Casimero because he already took down lots of opponents to catch the big fish, Inoue. They really need to consider making it happen before those passed their primes.
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December 26, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
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We will eventually see the fight between Casimero and Inoue since both fighters will likely stay on their current weight division and as they beat each other opponents, they leave no choice but to finally step on the ring to fight each other. They really need to make it happen since they want total glory and the fans wanted them to prove who is the best in this era. I think this is enough for Casimero because he already took down lots of opponents to catch the big fish, Inoue. They really need to consider making it happen before those passed their primes.

Hopefully, I heard news that Casimero is having a hard time getting into the scale with this current weight. So I'm thinking he is really getting bigger and heavier as he age so we don't know how long will he stay in this weight class to wait either Donaire or Inoue for a mega fight.

I remember him calling out the champions in higher weight class as well so that is the sign that he is willing to go up in weight and might not be comfortable in the bantam.
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December 26, 2021, 12:24:18 PM
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We will eventually see the fight between Casimero and Inoue since both fighters will likely stay on their current weight division and as they beat each other opponents, they leave no choice but to finally step on the ring to fight each other. They really need to make it happen since they want total glory and the fans wanted them to prove who is the best in this era. I think this is enough for Casimero because he already took down lots of opponents to catch the big fish, Inoue. They really need to consider making it happen before those passed their primes.

Hopefully, I heard news that Casimero is having a hard time getting into the scale with this current weight. So I'm thinking he is really getting bigger and heavier as he age so we don't know how long will he stay in this weight class to wait either Donaire or Inoue for a mega fight.

I remember him calling out the champions in higher weight class as well so that is the sign that he is willing to go up in weight and might not be comfortable in the bantam.

If money talks then maybe Casimero will have enough time to wait and fight either one of them.

Plus, the WBO champion in the next weight class Stephen Fulton might be too big for him.

So I think the money fight is still him and Inoue or Donaire. Might be better if he can unify the belt in the bantamweight before he can go up in weight.

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December 26, 2021, 12:44:50 PM
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We will eventually see the fight between Casimero and Inoue since both fighters will likely stay on their current weight division and as they beat each other opponents, they leave no choice but to finally step on the ring to fight each other. They really need to make it happen since they want total glory and the fans wanted them to prove who is the best in this era. I think this is enough for Casimero because he already took down lots of opponents to catch the big fish, Inoue. They really need to consider making it happen before those passed their primes.

Hopefully, I heard news that Casimero is having a hard time getting into the scale with this current weight. So I'm thinking he is really getting bigger and heavier as he age so we don't know how long will he stay in this weight class to wait either Donaire or Inoue for a mega fight.

I remember him calling out the champions in higher weight class as well so that is the sign that he is willing to go up in weight and might not be comfortable in the bantam.

If money talks then maybe Casimero will have enough time to wait and fight either one of them.

Plus, the WBO champion in the next weight class Stephen Fulton might be too big for him.

So I think the money fight is still him and Inoue or Donaire. Might be better if he can unify the belt in the bantamweight before he can go up in weight.

Casimero is professional, I'm sure he will not miss the opportunity to fight against Inoue as he wanted to be a unified champion in the division where he is a current champion. I don't believe he is struggling maintening the weight, he does the right training and their team has the staff to ensure that he get the weight requirement in this division.

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December 26, 2021, 01:18:49 PM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.

I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.

This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.

I believe that, the real reason why he didn't make to fight butler because he was sick, if he did not tell the truth, he would be penalized and his belt will be stripped but it didn't happen because his reason is valid and he was given a chance to make this fight happen. Casimero has a big dream to fight Inoue but there's a hindrance that he has to finish first and that is Butler. Donaire has done his job against his fellow Filipino boxer, it's time for Casimero to do his.

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December 26, 2021, 07:31:17 PM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.

I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.

This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.

I believe that, the real reason why he didn't make to fight butler because he was sick, if he did not tell the truth, he would be penalized and his belt will be stripped but it didn't happen because his reason is valid and he was given a chance to make this fight happen. Casimero has a big dream to fight Inoue but there's a hindrance that he has to finish first and that is Butler. Donaire has done his job against his fellow Filipino boxer, it's time for Casimero to do his.
He should need to settle up things if he really wants to fight Inoue and its a good call that the fight is rather been postponed than his belt would be stripped out and its just normal for Butler to wait up

rather than on fighting a replacement and he knows that Casimero is a worthy one to beat up because he knows the belt is on there. Any boxer would really have the same mindset or common goal.

Now is that we do have that waiting game because after this fight if Casimero would able to beat up Butler then Inoue would be next in line.
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December 26, 2021, 07:39:13 PM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.

I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.

This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.
Rumors on not getting the weight? There would be always those haters tending to be that negative but well there's always those kind of probabilities but of course they do know on what they are doing.

Speaking of that organizations decision then of course they would really be always minding about revenue and they couldnt really just make out those opportunities do pass by.
thats why these kind of decisions would or should be followed but this one isnt really that obvious though but somewhat this make things more interesting.

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December 26, 2021, 08:54:57 PM
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Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.

And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.

Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.

I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.

This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.
Rumors on not getting the weight? There would be always those haters tending to be that negative but well there's always those kind of probabilities but of course they do know on what they are doing.

Speaking of that organizations decision then of course they would really be always minding about revenue and they couldnt really just make out those opportunities do pass by.
thats why these kind of decisions would or should be followed but this one isnt really that obvious though but somewhat this make things more interesting.

Revenue is just the 2nd thing, the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight. We can hear rumors anywhere, writers are just too smart in selling their story and since Casimero is already popualr, many will certainly buy that kind of interesting story.

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December 26, 2021, 08:56:08 PM
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Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero.

I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.

It's really up to Casimero, if he insists to his manager to get Inoue at all cost then maybe they can negotiate with Bob to seal the fight. However, if Bob says no as he wanted to milk Inoue more then we won't see the fight. Of course this is want we wanted to see, but boxing is business so it will make sense for boxing managers to seek more lucrative money fights instead of unification. Although in the end it will be inevitable as they are the champions in this divisions.
Well, I've forgotten that he has his manager and they've got their promoter.

So basically you're right. If the promoter gives a go signal to him then the manager would just go what's according to the manager and this fight is going to be possible.

If the promoter declines, well, it's probably a wish to everyone of us but I guess they really are considering it. Since a lot of fans have seen the fight to be on hype and there's money into it which they really like.

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December 26, 2021, 09:16:45 PM
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Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero.

I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.

It's really up to Casimero, if he insists to his manager to get Inoue at all cost then maybe they can negotiate with Bob to seal the fight. However, if Bob says no as he wanted to milk Inoue more then we won't see the fight. Of course this is want we wanted to see, but boxing is business so it will make sense for boxing managers to seek more lucrative money fights instead of unification. Although in the end it will be inevitable as they are the champions in this divisions.
Well, I've forgotten that he has his manager and they've got their promoter.

So basically you're right. If the promoter gives a go signal to him then the manager would just go what's according to the manager and this fight is going to be possible.

If the promoter declines, well, it's probably a wish to everyone of us but I guess they really are considering it. Since a lot of fans have seen the fight to be on hype and there's money into it which they really like.

Casimero has to wait, he will get his moment against Inoue, for now, he has to face this mandatory challenger in front of him, after he beats Butler, then maybe we can start talking again about a potential Inoue-Casimero unification fight. Bob would always want to milk Inoue or his fighter to be specific but he also beleieve that Inoue can beat Casimero, so this fight is going to happen, we just don't know when yet.

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