[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[AmoreJaz]

We can not say that only casimero is the strongest fighter in their division which is a Bantamweight we have still Donaire and Inoue they are strong boxers too.

Donaire and Inoue hold a different organization title:

Bantamweigh Division

WBO = Casimero
WBA / IBF = Inoue
WBC = Donaire

Butler is under WBO on which he will make an attempt to snatch the title to Casimero.

What will happen next?

- Butler will win the fight against Casimero and it will now be Butler vs Inoue next.

If that will happen then Inoue will be so obvious that he is just avoiding Casimero, and with that, I don't think he really deserves the respect to be called as a champion, nowhere near to MP as he was compared to him as the next one, but MP never avoids an opponent whether he is a trash talker or not.

- Inoue might jump to Superfeatherweight at 122lbs. No more Casimero vs Inoue there but instead Casimero vs Donaire unification match.

I'm fine with this, but under the same promoter, is it possible?

Obviously, these are just our own speculation, maybe it's more realistic if we know first how Inoue would react after Casimero will defend his belt, if he won't say something about the possible unification fight with Casimero, then we can conclude that he is really dodging him.

just to address mirakal's question above, casimero and donaire have different promoters here. donaire is with probellum promotions headed by former Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer as stated in this article , whereas, casimero  is under MP Promotions (Pacquiao) - you can read here
both are filipino boxers, but they have different promoters

[btc_angela]

I don't see any problem with Inoue jumping to 122 lbs. Because sooner or later Casimero will also have to jump on that weight classes so that fight is still on between the two.

Not sure about Donaire though, it seems that he is fine with staying at 118 lbs and we all know that he is not getting any younger to bouncing off in weight might be a big problem for him in the future.

[PX-Z]

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Not sure about Donaire though, it seems that he is fine with staying at 118 lbs and we all know that he is not getting any younger to bouncing off in weight might be a big problem for him in the future.

Donaire get a hard time on the higher weight division although he get a title but doesnt last long, and eventually decided to go to lower weight division where he dominate before which he want to get it again but with inoue reigning i dont know if he can do it. Thats true that age affects a lot so lets see how it will go.

[Sanitough]

I don't see any problem with Inoue jumping to 122 lbs. Because sooner or later Casimero will also have to jump on that weight classes so that fight is still on between the two.

Not sure about Donaire though, it seems that he is fine with staying at 118 lbs and we all know that he is not getting any younger to bouncing off in weight might be a big problem for him in the future.

He is comfortable with that weight class and I don't think he still has a lot left to move up again, he wants to unify the belt so he has to fight the two champions and I hope he will have Inoue first and if he beats him in that rematch, then most likely he will also beat Casimero.

[Yaunfitda]

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Not sure about Donaire though, it seems that he is fine with staying at 118 lbs and we all know that he is not getting any younger to bouncing off in weight might be a big problem for him in the future.

Donaire get a hard time on the higher weight division although he get a title but doesnt last long, and eventually decided to go to lower weight division where he dominate before which he want to get it again but with inoue reigning i dont know if he can do it. Thats true that age affects a lot so lets see how it will go.

Yeah, it comes with age, in my opinion, and since Inoue is still very young, then he can definitely move up in weight and win some belts.

In the case of Donaire, I guess the era when he went up was not good, I mean the timing itself, there are a lot of great boxers that time that's why he losses some going North. so he prefers in this weight category that he dominates even at his age.

[Maslate]

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Not sure about Donaire though, it seems that he is fine with staying at 118 lbs and we all know that he is not getting any younger to bouncing off in weight might be a big problem for him in the future.

Donaire get a hard time on the higher weight division although he get a title but doesnt last long, and eventually decided to go to lower weight division where he dominate before which he want to get it again but with inoue reigning i dont know if he can do it. Thats true that age affects a lot so lets see how it will go.

Yeah, it comes with age, in my opinion, and since Inoue is still very young, then he can definitely move up in weight and win some belts.

In the case of Donaire, I guess the era when he went up was not good, I mean the timing itself, there are a lot of great boxers that time that's why he losses some going North. so he prefers in this weight category that he dominates even at his age.

You can't blame him with that, he was so confident that time because he was winning fights, and it's just normal for a boxer to try to push his limit and for Donaire, he already see how far he can go so he goes back to where he is more comfortable and he made the right decision.

[Questat]

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Not sure about Donaire though, it seems that he is fine with staying at 118 lbs and we all know that he is not getting any younger to bouncing off in weight might be a big problem for him in the future.

Donaire get a hard time on the higher weight division although he get a title but doesnt last long, and eventually decided to go to lower weight division where he dominate before which he want to get it again but with inoue reigning i dont know if he can do it. Thats true that age affects a lot so lets see how it will go.

Yeah, it comes with age, in my opinion, and since Inoue is still very young, then he can definitely move up in weight and win some belts.

In the case of Donaire, I guess the era when he went up was not good, I mean the timing itself, there are a lot of great boxers that time that's why he losses some going North. so he prefers in this weight category that he dominates even at his age.

You can't blame him with that, he was so confident that time because he was winning fights, and it's just normal for a boxer to try to push his limit and for Donaire, he already see how far he can go so he goes back to where he is more comfortable and he made the right decision.

Agree with you, at least Donaire is a real champion who is not afraid of losing, unlike other fighters who are just making sure they will not lose and because of that they will just choose to fight a fighter that they are certain they can dominate. I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

[Japinat]

I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

I will mention it for you, are you referring to Floyd Mayweather? 

Don't worry about that, we are in a free world, we have the freedom to criticize if we don't like the boxer, besides, they are successful because of us, we watch the fight and we pay for it. Did you know that Casimero beat Mayweather's bro? Kidding.. that was Rigo and  they have the same style.

[Mahanton]

I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

I will mention it for you, are you referring to Floyd Mayweather? 

Don't worry about that, we are in a free world, we have the freedom to criticize if we don't like the boxer, besides, they are successful because of us, we watch the fight and we pay for it. Did you know that Casimero beat Mayweather's bro? Kidding.. that was Rigo and  they have the same style.

Boxing sports does have that very main aim or goal which is to hit and not being hit even if it means dodging kind of fiighting style even most fans doesnt prefer on having this kind of fight but
it does surely counts and these boxers do retain that kind of fighting even though they do get some hate and discrimination but they do able to achieve those stats which hadnt been still
beaten up which is amazing on some point and disappointing at the same time.Its true that we could speak things freely since this is a forum after all which
it would really be understandable.

[tippytoes]

I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

I will mention it for you, are you referring to Floyd Mayweather? 

Don't worry about that, we are in a free world, we have the freedom to criticize if we don't like the boxer, besides, they are successful because of us, we watch the fight and we pay for it. Did you know that Casimero beat Mayweather's bro? Kidding.. that was Rigo and  they have the same style.

Boxing sports does have that very main aim or goal which is to hit and not being hit even if it means dodging kind of fiighting style even most fans doesnt prefer on having this kind of fight but
it does surely counts and these boxers do retain that kind of fighting even though they do get some hate and discrimination but they do able to achieve those stats which hadnt been still
beaten up which is amazing on some point and disappointing at the same time.Its true that we could speak things freely since this is a forum after all which
it would really be understandable.

Most of boxing fans want a toe-to-toe fight not a running style. This is why a lot are hating Mayweather's or Rigo's style. When you are watching these boxers, it is dull and boring and too technical. But if we watch like Pacquiao's fight, we were alive and and there was really action inside the ring. I guess, we will miss Pacquiao's fights but who knows, there will be new blood that will replace him. We need boxers like Pacquiao, because it gives true excitement to watch.

Now, Casimero needs to show something here, otherwise, he will slowly lose his fans.

[blockman]

Now, Casimero needs to show something here, otherwise, he will slowly lose his fans.

He's fighting for his own career and I don't think that he would be worried about losing his fans. There will always be those die hard fans and the fans that like him because of his performance for his past matches.

I guess, we will miss Pacquiao's fights but who knows, there will be new blood that will replace him. We need boxers like Pacquiao, because it gives true excitement to watch.

He just left a legacy and that standard coming from him will make the new aspiring and path followers of his higher in terms of achievement. But he's good as he is and we'll surely miss him fighting for another belt. But that's it, it's always that there's someone that's leaving and there's someone that comes. I even thought that Nonito is the next one on his path but the guy is also going old.

[Japinat]

I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

I will mention it for you, are you referring to Floyd Mayweather? 

Don't worry about that, we are in a free world, we have the freedom to criticize if we don't like the boxer, besides, they are successful because of us, we watch the fight and we pay for it. Did you know that Casimero beat Mayweather's bro? Kidding.. that was Rigo and  they have the same style.

Boxing sports does have that very main aim or goal which is to hit and not being hit even if it means dodging kind of fiighting style even most fans doesnt prefer on having this kind of fight but
it does surely counts and these boxers do retain that kind of fighting even though they do get some hate and discrimination but they do able to achieve those stats which hadnt been still
beaten up which is amazing on some point and disappointing at the same time.Its true that we could speak things freely since this is a forum after all which
it would really be understandable.

haha, yes we are in a free world and we can criticize a boxer we want to, but that is with respect. Floyd is an undefeated champion, the number 1 pound for pound during his era and beat MP, I think he already have everything, unfortunately his style is very boring.

[bisdak40]

~snip~
Now, Casimero needs to show something here, otherwise, he will slowly lose his fans.

Casimero is always been an exciting boxer if you have followed his career though we saw some boring fights, most recently with Rigo but that was not his fault. Casimero is a brawler and wants to fight toe to toe as if there is no more tomorrow for him and the good thing with him is that he is maturing with respect to his fighting style but still somehow undisciplined with regards to making weights  .

It's been weeks since the fight postponed and have not heard from Probellum yet on the date for this one, have they lose interest on staging this match?

[TravelMug]

~snip~
Now, Casimero needs to show something here, otherwise, he will slowly lose his fans.

Casimero is always been an exciting boxer if you have followed his career though we saw some boring fights, most recently with Rigo but that was not his fault. Casimero is a brawler and wants to fight toe to toe as if there is no more tomorrow for him and the good thing with him is that he is maturing with respect to his fighting style but still somehow undisciplined with regards to making weights  .

It's been weeks since the fight postponed and have not heard from Probellum yet on the date for this one, have they lose interest on staging this match?

I agree, Casimero has become a fan favourite because he always pleases his fans with the way he fight. Similar to Manny when he was in the beginning of his career (minus the trash talking). He wanted to go and take off the head of his opponent, so to speak.

So for sure in this fight, when the bell rings, he will go after Butler with bad intent and if Butler tries to fight fire with fire, it will be a great boxing match for the fans.

[Maslate]

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Not sure about Donaire though, it seems that he is fine with staying at 118 lbs and we all know that he is not getting any younger to bouncing off in weight might be a big problem for him in the future.

Donaire get a hard time on the higher weight division although he get a title but doesnt last long, and eventually decided to go to lower weight division where he dominate before which he want to get it again but with inoue reigning i dont know if he can do it. Thats true that age affects a lot so lets see how it will go.

Yeah, it comes with age, in my opinion, and since Inoue is still very young, then he can definitely move up in weight and win some belts.

In the case of Donaire, I guess the era when he went up was not good, I mean the timing itself, there are a lot of great boxers that time that's why he losses some going North. so he prefers in this weight category that he dominates even at his age.

You can't blame him with that, he was so confident that time because he was winning fights, and it's just normal for a boxer to try to push his limit and for Donaire, he already see how far he can go so he goes back to where he is more comfortable and he made the right decision.

Agree with you, at least Donaire is a real champion who is not afraid of losing, unlike other fighters who are just making sure they will not lose and because of that they will just choose to fight a fighter that they are certain they can dominate. I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

He can fight anyone, besides he does not have an undefeated record to take care of. Donaire is an accomplished fighter, at this age, he is still a champion and for sure he will have a bigger fight before he will hang his gloves. Donaire is the pride of the Filipinos, he makes us proud with his achievement so we will continue to support him in all his fights.

[Pamadar]

~snip~
Now, Casimero needs to show something here, otherwise, he will slowly lose his fans.

Casimero is always been an exciting boxer if you have followed his career though we saw some boring fights, most recently with Rigo but that was not his fault. Casimero is a brawler and wants to fight toe to toe as if there is no more tomorrow for him and the good thing with him is that he is maturing with respect to his fighting style but still somehow undisciplined with regards to making weights  .

It's been weeks since the fight postponed and have not heard from Probellum yet on the date for this one, have they lose interest on staging this match?

No update yet after that news regarding to Casimero to continue holding the belt,

Not sure if promoters already lose interest with this fight and no longer giving any update regarding to possible re-schedule
of this fight, but hopefully they will bring information about it and give some light to followers and fans if they are going to
bring this fight into reality..

[Mahanton]

I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

I will mention it for you, are you referring to Floyd Mayweather? 

Don't worry about that, we are in a free world, we have the freedom to criticize if we don't like the boxer, besides, they are successful because of us, we watch the fight and we pay for it. Did you know that Casimero beat Mayweather's bro? Kidding.. that was Rigo and  they have the same style.

Boxing sports does have that very main aim or goal which is to hit and not being hit even if it means dodging kind of fiighting style even most fans doesnt prefer on having this kind of fight but
it does surely counts and these boxers do retain that kind of fighting even though they do get some hate and discrimination but they do able to achieve those stats which hadnt been still
beaten up which is amazing on some point and disappointing at the same time.Its true that we could speak things freely since this is a forum after all which
it would really be understandable.

Most of boxing fans want a toe-to-toe fight not a running style. This is why a lot are hating Mayweather's or Rigo's style. When you are watching these boxers, it is dull and boring and too technical. But if we watch like Pacquiao's fight, we were alive and and there was really action inside the ring. I guess, we will miss Pacquiao's fights but who knows, there will be new blood that will replace him. We need boxers like Pacquiao, because it gives true excitement to watch.

Now, Casimero needs to show something here, otherwise, he will slowly lose his fans.

Pretty much aware on how these fighters/boxers do fight and we arent that blind on not to see those running like kind of fighting style which is really that disappointing if you  do ask me
and its true that us boxing fans wouldnt really be liking on having this kind of boxing style because it is really boring as hell and not really worth off on the money that we had paid for.

Casimero and some filipino boxers are really making their way to the top even though its still far off on what Pacquiao had achieved but everything do start on this path
and they should really work hard for that.

[Sanitough]

~snip~
Now, Casimero needs to show something here, otherwise, he will slowly lose his fans.

Casimero is always been an exciting boxer if you have followed his career though we saw some boring fights, most recently with Rigo but that was not his fault. Casimero is a brawler and wants to fight toe to toe as if there is no more tomorrow for him and the good thing with him is that he is maturing with respect to his fighting style but still somehow undisciplined with regards to making weights  .

It's been weeks since the fight postponed and have not heard from Probellum yet on the date for this one, have they lose interest on staging this match?

No update yet after that news regarding to Casimero to continue holding the belt,

Not sure if promoters already lose interest with this fight and no longer giving any update regarding to possible re-schedule
of this fight, but hopefully they will bring information about it and give some light to followers and fans if they are going to
bring this fight into reality..

We have to understand that the world is imposing some health measures again due to the omicron virus, promoters would not be interested to pursue this fight early when the situation is not manageable yet. The fact that he was not stripped with his belt and Butler did not look for another opponent, for sure this fight is going to happen this year.

[goinmerry]

We can not say that only casimero is the strongest fighter in their division which is a Bantamweight we have still Donaire and Inoue they are strong boxers too.

Donaire and Inoue hold a different organization title:

Bantamweigh Division

WBO = Casimero
WBA / IBF = Inoue
WBC = Donaire

Butler is under WBO on which he will make an attempt to snatch the title to Casimero.

What will happen next?


- Butler will win the fight against Casimero and it will now be Butler vs Inoue next.

If that will happen then Inoue will be so obvious that he is just avoiding Casimero, and with that, I don't think he really deserves the respect to be called as a champion, nowhere near to MP as he was compared to him as the next one, but MP never avoids an opponent whether he is a trash talker or not.

There's no avoiding if Butler will win the fight. It basically no sense for Inoue to fight Casimero if the latter loses the fight.

The task is clear, if Casimero will be successful in all mandated fights given to him by WBO, the chances of fighting Inoue is clear. And since Butler is already the top contender for WBO, there will be no mandated fight next that Casimero has to go through but to unify belts against either Donaire or Inoue, only if he wins.

[PX-Z]

Agree with you, at least Donaire is a real champion who is not afraid of losing, unlike other fighters who are just making sure they will not lose and because of that they will just choose to fight a fighter that they are certain they can dominate. I know some but I won't mentioned the name as I don't want to hurt the fans feelings, lol.

I will call them the smart champions, preserving their reputations, belt titles and money. While real champions are those you mentioned.