[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[Jating]

Inoue's name will always be dragged everytime we have Casimero as a topic, which means that the fans would really want to see them fight. In terms of benefits? I think Inoue will benefit a lot because if he wins he will become a unified champion and he will also gain a good paycheck since it's going to be a big fight, for sure the sharing would be 60/40 or 70/30 in favor of him.

It is to be expected though, they are in the same division, champion and have been calling each other out. Specially when Casimero started to trash talk Inoue in public and then Inoue replying back to the taunt of Casimero.

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

[mirakal]

Inoue's name will always be dragged everytime we have Casimero as a topic, which means that the fans would really want to see them fight. In terms of benefits? I think Inoue will benefit a lot because if he wins he will become a unified champion and he will also gain a good paycheck since it's going to be a big fight, for sure the sharing would be 60/40 or 70/30 in favor of him.

It is to be expected though, they are in the same division, champion and have been calling each other out. Specially when Casimero started to trash talk Inoue in public and then Inoue replying back to the taunt of Casimero.

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I guess there's no problem with that on Casimero's camp, a 40-60 split is fair enough, however, it seems like Inoue is still not interested to fight Casimero because if he is, he and his promoter had already confirmed a specific date of the fight.  I'm guessing, maybe they are hoping that Casimero would lose so they can stop running from him.

[tabas]

Inoue's name will always be dragged everytime we have Casimero as a topic, which means that the fans would really want to see them fight. In terms of benefits? I think Inoue will benefit a lot because if he wins he will become a unified champion and he will also gain a good paycheck since it's going to be a big fight, for sure the sharing would be 60/40 or 70/30 in favor of him.

Yep.
That's why fans wants to see it happen and we're all interested to see Inoue vs. Casimero and this match should happen soon while the interest of the fans are still there.
Because if it's gone already, they'll eventually heat it up again and make the match to happen. But right now, still unknown if it's going to happen or we're not going to see it happen.

This fight was scheduled before but later canceled due to the pandemic, so we cannot say that Inoue's camp is not interested in fighting Casimero. Why all of the sudden they change their decision, now that it's possible to fight in the ring again, they should give Casimero what he deserved, and that is a big fight he is always wanting to have.

Not yet scheduled, it was Casimero that have said a date but there's confirmation from the association that they're going to have a match. And then, this Casimero-Butler has got in and postponed the possible fight of Casimero and Inoue last year.
We know that it's going to be a big fight for his career but there's the WBO that has stepped in and there's no way that he can go against them. It's an order like a military that he cannot disobey.

[harizen]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I think that will be the split whether Casimero's camp likes it or not. And regardless, Casimero really likes to fight Inoue as that will be the highlight of his career. Beating him is like Casimero won a jackpot lol.

But seriously, even others think that Inoue's camp is avoiding Casimero, that's not what I see in the situation. If you are a champion, you don't need to say, please organize a fight for us like what Inoue did before to Casimero. Let the challenger do everything to force the champion to fight him until the body organization steps in to mandate the fight. Casimero just needs to finish everything that WBO will assign to him. I'm sure someday, he will get what he wants.

[goinmerry]

That's only his personal opinion, as a fan, we have different opinion regarding the action or reaction of every boxer that is being challenge but decline the challenge.

Opinions are highly appreciated but it's not wrong to direct the user to something more relevant. I'm sure if someone will say, Casimero has 0% chance to beat Inoue, you will react from it. Am I right? I'm directing that user to something more relevant.

If mandated, both Inoue and Donaire will fight Casimero. Inoue is a champion, why should he accept the challenge of Casimero if, in return, there's no good advantage to it. Inoue will just bring Casimero's name in the hype that's why to settle things between them, a boxing organization should mandate a fight.

I don't think they'll be mandated to fight, they are in different organizations so it's not gonna happen. Only if both camp will agree will result to a realization of the fight but it looks like it's not going to happen as this discussion has been talked about for years already and there's still no improvement.

You are actually right literally. I agree with that. But when the Unification fight was proposed and no other way but to push for that, it was something that both boxers can't ignore.

Let's not only talk about business, we should also consider the voice of the fans and the fans would always love to see a unification fight as it's the battle of the champions which we don't see all the time in boxing.

It will come. People are just in rush. They think that Casimero is dangerous that's why Inoue is avoiding it. Since when did he avoid it? There are reasons why the negotiations already failed last year even it's not started yet.

If someone can post a legit article here that Inoue is avoiding Casimero, I will humbly post a public apology to those who I think was wrong. Others will say, Inoue will not say that in media or public but making speculations about Inoue admitting like he's afraid to Casimero.

[agustina2]

We know that it's going to be a big fight for his career but there's the WBO that has stepped in and there's no way that he can go against them. It's an order like a military that he cannot disobey.

No progress between both camps. They are just exchanging words.

WBO needs to step in so that Casimero will be active and the best thing is to assign him to the number 1 challenger, Paul Butler. It's good before challenging Inoue as Butler is the only one remaining to challenge Casimero's title. If Casimero wins, no challenger has now closed him on the WBO list, and the next, Naoya Inoue or Nonito Donaire.

[chaser15]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

[btc78]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

i believe that this will depend in popularity and that is how Inoue is favorable against casimero so indeed that the amount will be bigger part to Inoue and the lower for casimero.
but we knew how capable casimero to win against Inoue so the situation may change after this fight.

I am also supporting casimero for this fight because he is more dominant compared to the last Filipino that Inoue take down (Donaire) so this fight is more lively that we wanted to witness and of course win .

[mirakal]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

i believe that this will depend in popularity and that is how Inoue is favorable against casimero so indeed that the amount will be bigger part to Inoue and the lower for casimero.
but we knew how capable casimero to win against Inoue so the situation may change after this fight.

I am also supporting casimero for this fight because he is more dominant compared to the last Filipino that Inoue take down (Donaire) so this fight is more lively that we wanted to witness and of course win .

We all know that Inoue is more popular than Casimero, and as we can see in the article below, he is in the top 3 while no Casimero in the list.
https://www.complex.com/sports/best-pound-for-pound-boxers-ranked/canelo-alvarez

That's why Casimero would want to fight Inoue because if he beats him, his name might be in the top 10. Only problem is that the awaited fight might not happen anytime soon.

[AmoreJaz]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

i believe that this will depend in popularity and that is how Inoue is favorable against casimero so indeed that the amount will be bigger part to Inoue and the lower for casimero.
but we knew how capable casimero to win against Inoue so the situation may change after this fight.

I am also supporting casimero for this fight because he is more dominant compared to the last Filipino that Inoue take down (Donaire) so this fight is more lively that we wanted to witness and of course win .

We all know that Inoue is more popular than Casimero, and as we can see in the article below, he is in the top 3 while no Casimero in the list.
https://www.complex.com/sports/best-pound-for-pound-boxers-ranked/canelo-alvarez

That's why Casimero would want to fight Inoue because if he beats him, his name might be in the top 10. Only problem is that the awaited fight might not happen anytime soon.

well, casimero needs to beat butler first before we talk about again fighting with inoue. a lot has been said but the prob last time was this fight got delayed because of casimero's health problems. so now, we need to see this fight happen first before the talks about inoue to be getting long again.
right now, a lot are speculating about the possible outcome of their fight, but we need this upcoming fight to happen first before we speculate his next fight. 

[Pamadar]

We all know that Inoue is more popular than Casimero, and as we can see in the article below, he is in the top 3 while no Casimero in the list.
https://www.complex.com/sports/best-pound-for-pound-boxers-ranked/canelo-alvarez

That's why Casimero would want to fight Inoue because if he beats him, his name might be in the top 10. Only problem is that the awaited fight might not happen anytime soon.

That's also the big reason why Casimero wants to take Inoue down,

With the popularity to win once this fight takes place will bring him to top, and possibly that's also what Arum doesn't want to happen,
He's a businessperson, and he knows how to play his card.

Casimero just need to keep on winning and maintain his belt, that way the call for them to meet inside the ring will continue to have
a possibility, else, if he loses his belt, interest from the other camp will be gone.

[carlisle1]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

i believe that this will depend in popularity and that is how Inoue is favorable against casimero so indeed that the amount will be bigger part to Inoue and the lower for casimero.
but we knew how capable casimero to win against Inoue so the situation may change after this fight.

I am also supporting casimero for this fight because he is more dominant compared to the last Filipino that Inoue take down (Donaire) so this fight is more lively that we wanted to witness and of course win .

We all know that Inoue is more popular than Casimero, and as we can see in the article below, he is in the top 3 while no Casimero in the list.
https://www.complex.com/sports/best-pound-for-pound-boxers-ranked/canelo-alvarez

That's why Casimero would want to fight Inoue because if he beats him, his name might be in the top 10. Only problem is that the awaited fight might not happen anytime soon.

well, casimero needs to beat butler first before we talk about again fighting with inoue. a lot has been said but the prob last time was this fight got delayed because of casimero's health problems. so now, we need to see this fight happen first before the talks about inoue to be getting long again.
right now, a lot are speculating about the possible outcome of their fight, but we need this upcoming fight to happen first before we speculate his next fight. 

Indeed. it's mandatory, and Casimero needs to comply. We can start bringing that topic about Inoue once he finished this fight with a win.

Let everything set in place after this delayed fight take place. We all want this tw. young warriors to face each other during their primes.

We just have to wait for the possible reschedule of this postponed fight and see if what turn of events will happen, if there's new progress

Dealing with Casimero's next opponents. It will happen if fate dictates it to happen.

[Yamifoud]

Indeed. it's mandatory, and Casimero needs to comply. We can start bringing that topic about Inoue once he finished this fight with a win.

I'm confident that Casimero will win the fight, and I understand why people are so excited to see an Inoue vs Casimero fight because we all want to see a big fight in the bantam weight division, and that's the biggest IMO.

Let everything set in place after this delayed fight take place. We all want this tw. young warriors to face each other during their primes.

We just have to wait for the possible reschedule of this postponed fight and see if what turn of events will happen, if there's new progress

Dealing with Casimero's next opponents. It will happen if fate dictates it to happen.

I don't want to think of another possibility, I just see Casimero winning the fight and it will not last in 12 rounds.

[freedomgo]

I don't want to think of another possibility, I just see Casimero winning the fight and it will not last in 12 rounds.

We respect your opinion but please be realistic also.

In every fight, there's always a possibility of upset like Magsayo upset Rusell, so if you are thinking Casimero will win, it's okay but also thinks that he is not unbeatable, and since Butler is also wanting to win, he is also making sure that he does the right training to keep himself 100% condition at the date of the fight.

[Baofeng]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

This might be one reason though if the fight will not happen. Usually these champion wanted to have the big share in the purse. And that's why there are fights that are not made because of this. I remember the Hatton vs Pacquiao fight, it was almost not going to happen until Arum put some money just to satisfy both party (that is according to him, but we will never know the truth).

And again in this fight, Arum is going to be involved as he handles Inoue. And hopefully they are going to push with this fight and give what is due for Casimero.

[tabas]

We know that it's going to be a big fight for his career but there's the WBO that has stepped in and there's no way that he can go against them. It's an order like a military that he cannot disobey.

No progress between both camps. They are just exchanging words.

WBO needs to step in so that Casimero will be active and the best thing is to assign him to the number 1 challenger, Paul Butler. It's good before challenging Inoue as Butler is the only one remaining to challenge Casimero's title. If Casimero wins, no challenger has now closed him on the WBO list, and the next, Naoya Inoue or Nonito Donaire.

WBO actually stepped in for Casimero and this match was just delayed. They really are about to fight and Butler is just waiting for it. That is the reason why we're wanting this match to be finished so that Casimero can move forward and go against with the possible match against Inoue.
It is what we all like to see and we don't know if WBO will step on this or they'll just allow Casimero to go for it. We have no idea if some postponement might happen again and Casimero would be led to another challenger.

[crzy]

We know that it's going to be a big fight for his career but there's the WBO that has stepped in and there's no way that he can go against them. It's an order like a military that he cannot disobey.

No progress between both camps. They are just exchanging words.

WBO needs to step in so that Casimero will be active and the best thing is to assign him to the number 1 challenger, Paul Butler. It's good before challenging Inoue as Butler is the only one remaining to challenge Casimero's title. If Casimero wins, no challenger has now closed him on the WBO list, and the next, Naoya Inoue or Nonito Donaire.

WBO actually stepped in for Casimero and this match was just delayed. They really are about to fight and Butler is just waiting for it. That is the reason why we're wanting this match to be finished so that Casimero can move forward and go against with the possible match against Inoue.
It is what we all like to see and we don't know if WBO will step on this or they'll just allow Casimero to go for it. We have no idea if some postponement might happen again and Casimero would be led to another challenger.

The decisions are still not out so we are waiting for the next match of Casimero either to fight Butler or to have another boxer in waiting, WBO should make an announcement now so viewers wont expect that much. Beside, Casimero can’t fight Inoue not until he finish this the order of WBO, maybe Casimero is taking his best time to recover for now.

[Mahanton]

We know that it's going to be a big fight for his career but there's the WBO that has stepped in and there's no way that he can go against them. It's an order like a military that he cannot disobey.

No progress between both camps. They are just exchanging words.

WBO needs to step in so that Casimero will be active and the best thing is to assign him to the number 1 challenger, Paul Butler. It's good before challenging Inoue as Butler is the only one remaining to challenge Casimero's title. If Casimero wins, no challenger has now closed him on the WBO list, and the next, Naoya Inoue or Nonito Donaire.

WBO actually stepped in for Casimero and this match was just delayed. They really are about to fight and Butler is just waiting for it. That is the reason why we're wanting this match to be finished so that Casimero can move forward and go against with the possible match against Inoue.
It is what we all like to see and we don't know if WBO will step on this or they'll just allow Casimero to go for it. We have no idea if some postponement might happen again and Casimero would be led to another challenger.

The decisions are still not out so we are waiting for the next match of Casimero either to fight Butler or to have another boxer in waiting, WBO should make an announcement now so viewers wont expect that much. Beside, Casimero can’t fight Inoue not until he finish this the order of WBO, maybe Casimero is taking his best time to recover for now.

Everything would be still lit because WBO would be always be having those final words and say on what would be the set up will look like whether he would faced up Butler or other challenger or would go directly
with Inoue.What you think? We couldnt really deny that the public or community is really waiting up for Casimero vs. Inoue fight on which each of those fighters did really end up some mandatory fights and
now there are some delays due to some valid reasons then this is what makes more tempting and somewhat frustrating if you arent that patient enough.

[ultrloa]

So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

This might be one reason though if the fight will not happen. Usually these champion wanted to have the big share in the purse. And that's why there are fights that are not made because of this. I remember the Hatton vs Pacquiao fight, it was almost not going to happen until Arum put some money just to satisfy both party (that is according to him, but we will never know the truth).

And again in this fight, Arum is going to be involved as he handles Inoue. And hopefully they are going to push with this fight and give what is due for Casimero.

Inoue already losing interest to fight Casimero anymore as he plans to fight Donaire for second time again and climb up for another weight division, so I guess he don't have any plans to fight him anymore. Maybe he don't see any benefits from it since he's not interested to fight him anymore. But fans keep insisting to make this fight happen so I hope that negotiation will up and this will happen since this will be huge fight to happen if both camp agree and seal a contract to their fight.

[harizen]

The decisions are still not out so we are waiting for the next match of Casimero either to fight Butler or to have another boxer in waiting, WBO should make an announcement now so viewers wont expect that much.

As far as WBO mandatory fight is concerned assigning to Casimero, there's no other opponent left yet to challenge Quadro Alas rather than Paul Butler. Even there's no announcement yet, I think that fight will be pushed as there's no other way.

Inoue already losing interest to fight Casimero anymore as he plans to fight Donaire for second time again and climb up for another weight division, so I guess he don't have any plans to fight him anymore. Maybe he don't see any benefits from it since he's not interested to fight him anymore. But fans keep insisting to make this fight happen so I hope that negotiation will up and this will happen since this will be huge fight to happen if both camp agree and seal a contract to their fight.

Even Inoue loses interest in Casimero, at least the monster still considers him to fight next. Maybe around June. The monster still prefers to fight in Japan that's why it takes too long for him to get in the ring knowing Japan has current travel restrictions in effect.

Naoya Inoue planning June return due to ongoing travel restrictions
Inoue is reportedly targeting Nonito Donaire and John Riel Casimero, as expected