[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[passwordnow]

Yes, it's all been set and that's final since there's no other news about the rescheduling. I've just said about the fans thing in the new venue because there were some comments that tells how the fans are there.
But needless to say, it's all set and we just have to wait until that day comes and let's just all hope for the best not only for the match but also for the live crowd to enjoy it.

It is scheduled in April, so there you go, we have a date already. As for the crowd, I guess it's just normal for any boxers to be booed or fight in a environment wherein the fans are against them. Nevertheless, Casimero have seen worst, Lol. And not just him but there are a lot of Filipino boxers as well who love to fight their opponents on their own turf. I'm sure everyone is exciting already for this fight and to see Casimero again in the ring.

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

[carlisle1]

Yes, it's all been set and that's final since there's no other news about the rescheduling. I've just said about the fans thing in the new venue because there were some comments that tells how the fans are there.
But needless to say, it's all set and we just have to wait until that day comes and let's just all hope for the best not only for the match but also for the live crowd to enjoy it.

It is scheduled in April, so there you go, we have a date already. As for the crowd, I guess it's just normal for any boxers to be booed or fight in a environment wherein the fans are against them. Nevertheless, Casimero have seen worst, Lol. And not just him but there are a lot of Filipino boxers as well who love to fight their opponents on their own turf. I'm sure everyone is exciting already for this fight and to see Casimero again in the ring.

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

Casimero seen that as motivation, not just a trash talk but bringing his opponent inside the trash in front of the fans..

No doubt that he already overcome this kind of situation and he's more on the fight and focusing on how he will beat his opponents

the booed is just an echo and he can switch that to a music that will bring him the win. Nothing in terms of affecting him hearing those

trash outside the ring, he will embarrass those people if he has that power to do so, knocking their champ in their faces.

[Maslate]

Yes, it's all been set and that's final since there's no other news about the rescheduling. I've just said about the fans thing in the new venue because there were some comments that tells how the fans are there.
But needless to say, it's all set and we just have to wait until that day comes and let's just all hope for the best not only for the match but also for the live crowd to enjoy it.

It is scheduled in April, so there you go, we have a date already. As for the crowd, I guess it's just normal for any boxers to be booed or fight in a environment wherein the fans are against them. Nevertheless, Casimero have seen worst, Lol. And not just him but there are a lot of Filipino boxers as well who love to fight their opponents on their own turf. I'm sure everyone is exciting already for this fight and to see Casimero again in the ring.

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

Casimero seen that as motivation, not just a trash talk but bringing his opponent inside the trash in front of the fans..

No doubt that he already overcome this kind of situation and he's more on the fight and focusing on how he will beat his opponents

the booed is just an echo and he can switch that to a music that will bring him the win. Nothing in terms of affecting him hearing those

trash outside the ring, he will embarrass those people if he has that power to do so, knocking their champ in their faces.

Forget about the trash talk, it's not a big deal, things should not be personal since this is just boxing, all business. If someone gets offended on the trash talk of Casimero, then they should accept the challenge and teach Casimero in the ring, unfortunately, not the case for Inoue, he seemed to avoid him instead of accepting the challenge.

[Mahanton]

Yes, it's all been set and that's final since there's no other news about the rescheduling. I've just said about the fans thing in the new venue because there were some comments that tells how the fans are there.
But needless to say, it's all set and we just have to wait until that day comes and let's just all hope for the best not only for the match but also for the live crowd to enjoy it.

It is scheduled in April, so there you go, we have a date already. As for the crowd, I guess it's just normal for any boxers to be booed or fight in a environment wherein the fans are against them. Nevertheless, Casimero have seen worst, Lol. And not just him but there are a lot of Filipino boxers as well who love to fight their opponents on their own turf. I'm sure everyone is exciting already for this fight and to see Casimero again in the ring.

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

Casimero seen that as motivation, not just a trash talk but bringing his opponent inside the trash in front of the fans..

No doubt that he already overcome this kind of situation and he's more on the fight and focusing on how he will beat his opponents

the booed is just an echo and he can switch that to a music that will bring him the win. Nothing in terms of affecting him hearing those

trash outside the ring, he will embarrass those people if he has that power to do so, knocking their champ in their faces.

Forget about the trash talk, it's not a big deal, things should not be personal since this is just boxing, all business. If someone gets offended on the trash talk of Casimero, then they should accept the challenge and teach Casimero in the ring, unfortunately, not the case for Inoue, he seemed to avoid him instead of accepting the challenge.

People are different when it comes on accepting or dealing with things.Some might really be that reactive when it comes to trashtalks and some doesnt really give out any importance
or does ignore most of the time and it do resulted out on having no interest on dealing with that person with having that personal reason.We dont know on why Inoue doesnt
really get interested to fight Casimero as this guy continue to provoke him yet there are really people who doesnt really love to deal up with things but its good
to see on how these things to be settled inside the ring.

[Maslate]

Yes, it's all been set and that's final since there's no other news about the rescheduling. I've just said about the fans thing in the new venue because there were some comments that tells how the fans are there.
But needless to say, it's all set and we just have to wait until that day comes and let's just all hope for the best not only for the match but also for the live crowd to enjoy it.

It is scheduled in April, so there you go, we have a date already. As for the crowd, I guess it's just normal for any boxers to be booed or fight in a environment wherein the fans are against them. Nevertheless, Casimero have seen worst, Lol. And not just him but there are a lot of Filipino boxers as well who love to fight their opponents on their own turf. I'm sure everyone is exciting already for this fight and to see Casimero again in the ring.

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

Casimero seen that as motivation, not just a trash talk but bringing his opponent inside the trash in front of the fans..

No doubt that he already overcome this kind of situation and he's more on the fight and focusing on how he will beat his opponents

the booed is just an echo and he can switch that to a music that will bring him the win. Nothing in terms of affecting him hearing those

trash outside the ring, he will embarrass those people if he has that power to do so, knocking their champ in their faces.

Forget about the trash talk, it's not a big deal, things should not be personal since this is just boxing, all business. If someone gets offended on the trash talk of Casimero, then they should accept the challenge and teach Casimero in the ring, unfortunately, not the case for Inoue, he seemed to avoid him instead of accepting the challenge.

People are different when it comes on accepting or dealing with things.Some might really be that reactive when it comes to trashtalks and some doesnt really give out any importance
or does ignore most of the time and it do resulted out on having no interest on dealing with that person with having that personal reason.We dont know on why Inoue doesnt
really get interested to fight Casimero as this guy continue to provoke him yet there are really people who doesnt really love to deal up with things but its good
to see on how these things to be settled inside the ring.

That's why they will buy the fight, and with that, we can say that Casimero has a very effective style because his trash talking worked.

When he trash talk Inoue, Inoue's fans are mad at him, and they want Inoue to fight him, but it didn't happen because Inoue's camp is not interested, so maybe their action disappointed the fans in any ways.

[harizen]

When he trash talk Inoue, Inoue's fans are mad at him, and they want Inoue to fight him, but it didn't happen because Inoue's camp is not interested, so maybe their action disappointed the fans in any ways.

It's not the reason why the fight was canceled which supposedly, should be happened last December 2021, as per both boxers' announcement amid the heated exchange of words that Casimero's camp started.

WBO doesn't see any improvement nor if the negotiation is really underway so they mandated Casimero instead to have a title defense against the number 1 challenger, Paul Butler. Seems a good choice too for me before taking directly the Monster.

[Mahanton]

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That's why they will buy the fight, and with that, we can say that Casimero has a very effective style because his trash talking worked.

When he trash talk Inoue, Inoue's fans are mad at him, and they want Inoue to fight him, but it didn't happen because Inoue's camp is not interested, so maybe their action disappointed the fans in any ways.

Every actions made does have corresponding reason whether the fans get mad or frustrated on such decision they wouldnt still rely on what the community is been seeing or trying to make things happen.
Instead Inoue doesnt really bit off those trashtalks and speaking of trash talks its quite effective on some cases just like on Mcgregor on how he do sell off the fight with those shitty trashtalks
which it do almost end up on crossing the border line since it do becomes personal but well its their own choice on actions been making.

[chaser15]

That's why they will buy the fight, and with that, we can say that Casimero has a very effective style because his trash talking worked.

When he trash talk Inoue, Inoue's fans are mad at him, and they want Inoue to fight him, but it didn't happen because Inoue's camp is not interested, so maybe their action disappointed the fans in any ways.

Trash talk has nothing to do to market the fight between Inoue and Casimero. It's not an effective way. The fight will be demanded or being watched if both boxers are popular and have a good winning record. If the fight between Casimero and Inoue will happen,  there's no need for trash talk by both parties as they are popular and both champions.

There's already a hype on their name. The same as fighting with Paul Butler as Casimero is already popular.

[Kemarit]

That's why they will buy the fight, and with that, we can say that Casimero has a very effective style because his trash talking worked.

When he trash talk Inoue, Inoue's fans are mad at him, and they want Inoue to fight him, but it didn't happen because Inoue's camp is not interested, so maybe their action disappointed the fans in any ways.

Trash talk has nothing to do to market the fight between Inoue and Casimero. It's not an effective way. The fight will be demanded or being watched if both boxers are popular and have a good winning record. If the fight between Casimero and Inoue will happen,  there's no need for trash talk by both parties as they are popular and both champions.

There's already a hype on their name. The same as fighting with Paul Butler as Casimero is already popular.

And I'm just thinking, both doesn't speak English that much, so there's no weight in trash talking. Maybe in the media, but in interviews, I doubt that there will be one as it could be not effective.

But for boxing fans, this is hype already, we have been talking about this fight and hopefully they can sit up and negotiate the fight in the future because this is big for the division.

[ultrloa]

He need to show that he has a good record with consecutive wins especially with knockouts so that he can convince the management Inoue to negotiate with them since if he just use is loud mouth and suddenly defeated by Butler then for sure the japanese monster will.just laugh at him and leave him completely.

The last fight was a disappointment, we were expecting that Casimero would have an impressive win but it doesn't go that way although he won the game. Inoue himself also said that if he fought Rigo, it might be the same result on the Casimero fight as Rigo is a fast runner and would not be willing to risk to engage.

I still give him the credit for that win since its hard to fall on the trap what Rigo set and they intend to do that just to destroy the focus of Casimero but it ended up bad to him. If Rigondauex will fight him without running for sure we can see a impressive win on Casimero. But unfortunately we didn't see that so its still good to see him playing safe than be sorry after that match.

[Natalim]

He need to show that he has a good record with consecutive wins especially with knockouts so that he can convince the management Inoue to negotiate with them since if he just use is loud mouth and suddenly defeated by Butler then for sure the japanese monster will.just laugh at him and leave him completely.

The last fight was a disappointment, we were expecting that Casimero would have an impressive win but it doesn't go that way although he won the game. Inoue himself also said that if he fought Rigo, it might be the same result on the Casimero fight as Rigo is a fast runner and would not be willing to risk to engage.

I still give him the credit for that win since its hard to fall on the trap what Rigo set and they intend to do that just to destroy the focus of Casimero but it ended up bad to him. If Rigondauex will fight him without running for sure we can see a impressive win on Casimero. But unfortunately we didn't see that so its still good to see him playing safe than be sorry after that match.

The fight destroyed the reputation of Rigo, people thought that he should retire already because he is not entertaining anymore, he did not come to fight but only come to survive and take the money. Where's the essence of boxing, it's supposed to be entertainment but you can tell how people were disappointed in the fight, we can ever hear some boos from the fans in the arena.

[Kasabus]

He need to show that he has a good record with consecutive wins especially with knockouts so that he can convince the management Inoue to negotiate with them since if he just use is loud mouth and suddenly defeated by Butler then for sure the japanese monster will.just laugh at him and leave him completely.

The last fight was a disappointment, we were expecting that Casimero would have an impressive win but it doesn't go that way although he won the game. Inoue himself also said that if he fought Rigo, it might be the same result on the Casimero fight as Rigo is a fast runner and would not be willing to risk to engage.

I still give him the credit for that win since its hard to fall on the trap what Rigo set and they intend to do that just to destroy the focus of Casimero but it ended up bad to him. If Rigondauex will fight him without running for sure we can see a impressive win on Casimero. But unfortunately we didn't see that so its still good to see him playing safe than be sorry after that match.

The fight destroyed the reputation of Rigo, people thought that he should retire already because he is not entertaining anymore, he did not come to fight but only come to survive and take the money. Where's the essence of boxing, it's supposed to be entertainment but you can tell how people were disappointed in the fight, we can ever hear some boos from the fans in the arena.

That fight of Rigondeaux vs Casimero was not too entertaining to watch, Casimero deserved the win but he wasn't given the chance to show his skills and talent because Rigondeaux was always running while punching. By the way, did you guys saw how Rigondeaux behaved after the end of round 6? The man should really be ashamed of himself and there's no doubt that his fans wouldn't support him anymore after that event.

[passwordnow]

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

Casimero seen that as motivation, not just a trash talk but bringing his opponent inside the trash in front of the fans..

No doubt that he already overcome this kind of situation and he's more on the fight and focusing on how he will beat his opponents

the booed is just an echo and he can switch that to a music that will bring him the win. Nothing in terms of affecting him hearing those

trash outside the ring, he will embarrass those people if he has that power to do so, knocking their champ in their faces.

Well, the echo isn't going to matter to him anymore. Once a person like him is starting to be just like someone else, he's already used to it. We don't know how tough he went through his life and we may only see the few version of him. But there's a deeper way of living that he's gone through and for sure that toughness he has right now not only on the boxing ring is giving him the reason to keep moving. So, him being a boxer and having a strong personality really is sinking on him and he can't be done that quickly emotionally.

[Ziskinberg]

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

Casimero seen that as motivation, not just a trash talk but bringing his opponent inside the trash in front of the fans..

No doubt that he already overcome this kind of situation and he's more on the fight and focusing on how he will beat his opponents

the booed is just an echo and he can switch that to a music that will bring him the win. Nothing in terms of affecting him hearing those

trash outside the ring, he will embarrass those people if he has that power to do so, knocking their champ in their faces.

Well, the echo isn't going to matter to him anymore. Once a person like him is starting to be just like someone else, he's already used to it. We don't know how tough he went through his life and we may only see the few version of him. But there's a deeper way of living that he's gone through and for sure that toughness he has right now not only on the boxing ring is giving him the reason to keep moving. So, him being a boxer and having a strong personality really is sinking on him and he can't be done that quickly emotionally.

Casimero deserves to have a bigger fight, or a fight with Inoue to be specific, he is just trash talking so he can get the attention of the world that he exist as a champion and that they should watch him fight. It's just a strategy on how to increase the sales, we know that Casimero does not sell fight more than Inoue can, and that's because Inoue is working with a great promoter which is Bob Arum.

[ultrloa]

He need to show that he has a good record with consecutive wins especially with knockouts so that he can convince the management Inoue to negotiate with them since if he just use is loud mouth and suddenly defeated by Butler then for sure the japanese monster will.just laugh at him and leave him completely.

The last fight was a disappointment, we were expecting that Casimero would have an impressive win but it doesn't go that way although he won the game. Inoue himself also said that if he fought Rigo, it might be the same result on the Casimero fight as Rigo is a fast runner and would not be willing to risk to engage.

I still give him the credit for that win since its hard to fall on the trap what Rigo set and they intend to do that just to destroy the focus of Casimero but it ended up bad to him. If Rigondauex will fight him without running for sure we can see a impressive win on Casimero. But unfortunately we didn't see that so its still good to see him playing safe than be sorry after that match.

The fight destroyed the reputation of Rigo, people thought that he should retire already because he is not entertaining anymore, he did not come to fight but only come to survive and take the money. Where's the essence of boxing, it's supposed to be entertainment but you can tell how people were disappointed in the fight, we can ever hear some boos from the fans in the arena.

He's just saving he's ass for money and many of his fans got disappointed at him after that match that's why its not surprising to see many people got angry at him after that fight. Many people turn him into laughing stock since Rigo make the boxing turn to marathon. I don't know if he can still be relevant to his fans after that fight so I guess your right its time for him to retire.

[agustina2]

Casimero deserves to have a bigger fight, or a fight with Inoue to be specific, he is just trash talking so he can get the attention of the world that he exist as a champion and that they should watch him fight. It's just a strategy on how to increase the sales, we know that Casimero does not sell fight more than Inoue can, and that's because Inoue is working with a great promoter which is Bob Arum.

Maybe sales is priority but in an unification fight, regardless of the sales and the hype, both champion should meet at the ring to unified their respective titles. It's not about with the sales but the fight should happen no matter what. Bob Arum influence also a big help that both boxers no need to trash talk and the fight will be profitable by only his actions.

[chaser15]

He need to show that he has a good record with consecutive wins especially with knockouts so that he can convince the management Inoue to negotiate with them since if he just use is loud mouth and suddenly defeated by Butler then for sure the japanese monster will.just laugh at him and leave him completely.

The last fight was a disappointment, we were expecting that Casimero would have an impressive win but it doesn't go that way although he won the game. Inoue himself also said that if he fought Rigo, it might be the same result on the Casimero fight as Rigo is a fast runner and would not be willing to risk to engage.

I still give him the credit for that win since its hard to fall on the trap what Rigo set and they intend to do that just to destroy the focus of Casimero but it ended up bad to him. If Rigondauex will fight him without running for sure we can see a impressive win on Casimero. But unfortunately we didn't see that so its still good to see him playing safe than be sorry after that match.

The fight destroyed the reputation of Rigo, people thought that he should retire already because he is not entertaining anymore, he did not come to fight but only come to survive and take the money. Where's the essence of boxing, it's supposed to be entertainment but you can tell how people were disappointed in the fight, we can ever hear some boos from the fans in the arena.

That fight of Rigondeaux vs Casimero was not too entertaining to watch, Casimero deserved the win but he wasn't given the chance to show his skills and talent because Rigondeaux was always running while punching. By the way, did you guys saw how Rigondeaux behaved after the end of round 6? The man should really be ashamed of himself and there's no doubt that his fans wouldn't support him anymore after that event.

Agree. We didn't see the real Casimero during on that fight because Rigo is playing defense and taking advantage of the point system.

But referring to Paul Butler, he seems not having the same style with Rigo.

We can expect that he will fight Casimero face to face even he is at disadvantage. Much better to see compare to running marathon gameplay of Rigo.

[Dave1]

Casimero deserves to have a bigger fight, or a fight with Inoue to be specific, he is just trash talking so he can get the attention of the world that he exist as a champion and that they should watch him fight. It's just a strategy on how to increase the sales, we know that Casimero does not sell fight more than Inoue can, and that's because Inoue is working with a great promoter which is Bob Arum.

Maybe sales is priority but in an unification fight, regardless of the sales and the hype, both champion should meet at the ring to unified their respective titles. It's not about with the sales but the fight should happen no matter what. Bob Arum influence also a big help that both boxers no need to trash talk and the fight will be profitable by only his actions.

I guess at some point, when there's no more opponents in the line for Inoue, regardless of sales and hype, this two will have to face each other. So it's really unavoidable in their career, as they are both on the same division, has the belt (assuming Casimero will win against Butler).

Bob Arum is one of the best managers in boxing, he knows how to set up a fight that will generate money. So the Inoue vs Casimero will be profitable for him so it's just the timing on when to have this fight.

[Yaunfitda]

Yes, it's all been set and that's final since there's no other news about the rescheduling. I've just said about the fans thing in the new venue because there were some comments that tells how the fans are there.
But needless to say, it's all set and we just have to wait until that day comes and let's just all hope for the best not only for the match but also for the live crowd to enjoy it.

It is scheduled in April, so there you go, we have a date already. As for the crowd, I guess it's just normal for any boxers to be booed or fight in a environment wherein the fans are against them. Nevertheless, Casimero have seen worst, Lol. And not just him but there are a lot of Filipino boxers as well who love to fight their opponents on their own turf. I'm sure everyone is exciting already for this fight and to see Casimero again in the ring.

Exactly, there goes the set for the fight. As what I've read about the crowd, it's not just about being booed or cheering down the away fighter.
Yeah, I've forgotten that Casimero has been into this whole thing for his life and it won't matter to him anymore if there goes the fans that would subject him after the fight.

Right, regardless of the venue, Casimero has one thing in mind, to keep his title so that he will keep his hopes of good paycheck against the monster in the future. So still needs to train and focus first against Butler, and not to take into account the crowd itself. And knowing Filipinos, maybe there could be a minority crowd in UK to watch him fight, although it will be a big risk for them because they will be out numbered by the UK crowd and there could also be some heated arguments outside after the fight specially if John Riel win in a spectacular knock out.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Some good news to Filipino boxing fans out there. Seems like Casimero will be heading to MP Promotions again if things will be okay with him and Sean Gibbons. We can't deny the fact that Quadro Alas is one of the most popular boxer in the Philippines right now because of his antics and boxing style, also the personality and we can say that he is one of a kind so MPP should have him back as Casimero might be their cash cow in the next few years.

MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons is reportedly trying to patch things up with WBO world bantamweight champion John Riel Casimero before the Filipino’s next fight against Paul Butler on April 23 at a yet to be determined venue in Liverpool, England.

Good for him. MP Promotions will take care of everything. It's just that Casimero is surrounded by so-called professionals who don't how managing a boxer should be done properly. I hope Casimero will consider that. No more room for any doubts.

So the venue is in Liverpool, England. I thought it will be in the US to somehow get a good live crowd at the venue.

I agree, it's a good call if he will remain with MP promotions, no offense to Probellum, it is a good boxing promotion with Richard Schaefer at the helm.

But I think Casimero will be at home if he is with MP with the rest of the Filipino boxers. Sort of a family. There are reports that Donaire has something to do with him moving to Probellum, but Donaire has been close to Richard before so it make sense for him to move without hesitation. In any case, Liverpool it is, no doubt that Casimero will perform good at hostile crowds.

I think if Casimero was happy with MP promotion, he would stay with them, but it seems like he is not happy or not satisfied at all since he is not getting big fights under the promotion. With Probellum, maybe there's a bigger chance for him to fight Inoue which really is his main goal for now.

It is that it is not only Casimero's objective, if you start reviewing from 2021 we are all hoping that this meeting can take place, there have been previous fights, but I think that everything has happened that way because of the great business model that there is and it lies in boxing, the managers and the federation itself seek to do more fights to have more money, I think it is a direct consequence of the havoc caused by the pandemic. And I include myself, I want that fight to happen soon, because they are the boxers who have captured the most attention and popularity, I wouldn't know what to bet on right now.