[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[Questat]

Correct, but Crawford is still active so maybe in the future he could be a boxing promoter too.

That's so futuristic, let's talk about his journey first as a boxer as I'm sure he still has a lot to offer, if he is willing to accept challenges and get big fights, maybe he will be a hall of famer just like the other great boxers in the sports, he is still young and I'm sure he will have more fights in the future, being an undisputed champion maybe a good one to achieve.

[Distinctin]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

The speed was there but he is not as fast as Manny Pacquiao, Mayweather, and Rigo. However, if Rigo did not just run throughout the fight, it could be an exciting fight and Casimero will be able to show his might and could probably hurt Rigo in that fight, it was a boring fight and it's not expected that he could knock out a fighter who is not willing to take the risk to engage aggressively.

Pacquiao and Mayweather are far ahead of Casimero so there's no doubt that Casimero cannot keep with those two boxers. But with Rigo's speed? The dude has been running almost the whole fight avoiding Casimero's punches to, can't call it a pure boxing either. Though, can't blame the man because much older that's why he's just trying his best to finish the fight without any lethal injuries. Indeed a boring fight!

[Russlenat]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

And why would Casimero chase Rigo for his running antics? Lol.
Rigo was surely fast enough but only to outrun Casimero and that's the only thing he can boast because he can't keep up with Casimero if they were to fight very closely, toe-to-toe. He's too obvious that he only wants the money and not to entertain people especially his fans. From that day forth, Rigo was lost his fans from his shameful behaviour.

[Hypnosis00]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

And why would Casimero chase Rigo for his running antics? Lol.
Rigo was surely fast enough but only to outrun Casimero and that's the only thing he can boast because he can't keep up with Casimero if they were to fight very closely, toe-to-toe. He's too obvious that he only wants the money and not to entertain people especially his fans. From that day forth, Rigo was lost his fans from his shameful behaviour.

Prior to the fight, Casimero said that he will knockout Rigo, and Rigo said that would not be possible, and he was right because his strategy was very effective and no boxer could knock out an opponent that will just run in the entire fight, he was good in running but he forget to score, that's why he lose, I'm even surprise that it was a split decision, should be a UD.

[Natalim]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

And why would Casimero chase Rigo for his running antics? Lol.
Rigo was surely fast enough but only to outrun Casimero and that's the only thing he can boast because he can't keep up with Casimero if they were to fight very closely, toe-to-toe. He's too obvious that he only wants the money and not to entertain people especially his fans. From that day forth, Rigo was lost his fans from his shameful behaviour.

Prior to the fight, Casimero said that he will knockout Rigo, and Rigo said that would not be possible, and he was right because his strategy was very effective and no boxer could knock out an opponent that will just run in the entire fight, he was good in running but he forget to score, that's why he lose, I'm even surprise that it was a split decision, should be a UD.

That's not new, most boxers are overconfident before the right, some even talk too much but less action in the ring, that was the case of Rigo, he wasn't aggressive and most of his activities are just defending himself from the powerful punches of Casimero, that's why the judges made a decision to score in favor of the champion.

[blockman]

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

It's like Paul Butler is also tough and it will be quite hard for Casimero to give that blow of KO to him. But it's what we want to happen that he'll give a KO to win this fight. That's why the expectation of having a KO is always there but if the score really tallies and he'll outscore Butler.
No stress at all that he'd win this fight through a decision and that's still a win. Well, everyone is becoming excited but also wanting to see this fight end go well and fast.

I also think that Paul Butler is tough since, in the first place, he won't reach being the Top 1 challenger for nothing.

He's also a type of fighter that doesn't have the style of running away from his opponent to play safe.

I'm expecting he will give Casimero a close combat fight as fans will surely want that kind of action once they meet on the ring.

He's record is telling us what he can do. I'm sure that this won't be an easy match just as what the others are speculating. But if I'm wrong with that speculation then that's better.
It's because that we're wanting to see Casimero win this fight with a flawless victory which is going to make him close to the awaited next match that we want him to have.

[Questat]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

And why would Casimero chase Rigo for his running antics? Lol.
Rigo was surely fast enough but only to outrun Casimero and that's the only thing he can boast because he can't keep up with Casimero if they were to fight very closely, toe-to-toe. He's too obvious that he only wants the money and not to entertain people especially his fans. From that day forth, Rigo was lost his fans from his shameful behaviour.

Casimero just wants to entertain the fans, and that is by beating Rigo convincingly, but it was a disappointment, even he was also disappointed by his performance because he could not initiate his game plan effectively. He also has some good counter but Rigo was playing smart, he was faster and don't like to risk himself trying to go toe to toe.

[Sanitough]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

And why would Casimero chase Rigo for his running antics? Lol.
Rigo was surely fast enough but only to outrun Casimero and that's the only thing he can boast because he can't keep up with Casimero if they were to fight very closely, toe-to-toe. He's too obvious that he only wants the money and not to entertain people especially his fans. From that day forth, Rigo was lost his fans from his shameful behaviour.

Casimero just wants to entertain the fans, and that is by beating Rigo convincingly, but it was a disappointment, even he was also disappointed by his performance because he could not initiate his game plan effectively. He also has some good counter but Rigo was playing smart, he was faster and don't like to risk himself trying to go toe to toe.

I agree with that, before the Rigo fight, his fights ended in KO and he is really making his name that's why he was challenging Donaire and Inoue for a unification fight, it's just that he had a bad fight with Rigo and now, in his title defense, he missed the weigh-in and the fight was postponed, if he wins this fight, then for sure people will be talking about him again.

[Kasabus]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

And why would Casimero chase Rigo for his running antics? Lol.
Rigo was surely fast enough but only to outrun Casimero and that's the only thing he can boast because he can't keep up with Casimero if they were to fight very closely, toe-to-toe. He's too obvious that he only wants the money and not to entertain people especially his fans. From that day forth, Rigo was lost his fans from his shameful behaviour.

Prior to the fight, Casimero said that he will knockout Rigo, and Rigo said that would not be possible, and he was right because his strategy was very effective and no boxer could knock out an opponent that will just run in the entire fight, he was good in running but he forget to score, that's why he lose, I'm even surprise that it was a split decision, should be a UD.

That's not new, most boxers are overconfident before the right, some even talk too much but less action in the ring, that was the case of Rigo, he wasn't aggressive and most of his activities are just defending himself from the powerful punches of Casimero, that's why the judges made a decision to score in favor of the champion.

Indeed! It is actually common and natural for them to be confident or trashtalk before the fight to provoke their opponent but that's actually fine because it is also a part of their strategy to get in their opponent's head so that they can't think straight when the fight begins and make that as their advantage, as for Casimero, I bet also tried that several times especially for Rigo but he didn't succeed as Rigo didn't bite the bait.

[Yamifoud]

I bet also tried that several times especially for Rigo but he didn't succeed as Rigo didn't bite the bait.

Rigo knows the power of Casimero, and for sure if he gets toe to toe because he fights with his emotion, that fight could have ended in a KO and it will be Rigo who will be laying on the canvas. That fight was a boring one, not worth remembering, so I expect to see a better fight in this fight, let the KO be displayed again.

[terrorJR]

Bob is indeed one of the good Promoters "in the eyes of the Fighters" but it is not for some people.
I quite agree to say that Bob protects his Dairy Cows because this is quite true and there have been several times he has done this.
It doesn't matter what I think Inoue should be one of his opponents because it's really not funny if it doesn't happen especially if he does win against Butller

For Bob, boxing is business, so he will make sure that his investment will give him a profit, and he will not put his fighter at risk of losing because it will lose the value of his boxer and he won't be making a lot of money from a boxer. Just for example, if Inoue fight Casimero and Inoue lost the fight, that is a big lose for Arum as Inoue being a pound for pound fighter will lose his belts and will not be a champion.

Indeed, he surely knows what to do to make money in this industry with minimal risk involved and won't likely pursue any fights that won't be any good for him especially if it's Inoue or one of his best cash cows, but for now Bob is ain't interested about Casimero yet. So, Casimero should really secure this fight against Butler if he really wants Inoue to fight him. In that way, he has more chance rather than just talking trash to provoke the other side.

this is quite reasonable because indeed he always puts his boxers in something safe and indeed when indeed if inoue plays with casimero then this will be a gamble that will determine the fate of bob and the boxers he makes cash cows.
I think he is being too careful but indeed this might be a pretty good move for him because indeed Casimero is not an opponent that Inoue can really fight even though Inoue is quite strong but Casimero is above him and indeed Bob certainly predicts this

[Kasabus]

I bet also tried that several times especially for Rigo but he didn't succeed as Rigo didn't bite the bait.

Rigo knows the power of Casimero, and for sure if he gets toe to toe because he fights with his emotion, that fight could have ended in a KO and it will be Rigo who will be laying on the canvas. That fight was a boring one, not worth remembering, so I expect to see a better fight in this fight, let the KO be displayed again.

That is what exactly Casimero wants to happen, that Rigo will let his emotion be displayed but the dude was smart enough to endure Casimero's provocative mouth and set his course not to let Casimero near him as it could be dangerous or worse, it will be his last move.

It was indeed a boring fight, not worth remembering but because of Rigo's foolishness, it will be forever remembered. Lol
Same as you, I expect a better fight this time and a better outcome.

[chaser15]

It was indeed a boring fight, not worth remembering but because of Rigo's foolishness, it will be forever remembered. Lol
Same as you, I expect a better fight this time and a better outcome.

We can bet that Casimero vs Butler won't be a repeat of Casimero vs Rigo.

Seems Butler is an in-fighter and the moment Butler will just realize to make a run is when he test if he can't handle Casimero on a close bout. Butler was also in serious preparation for a long but the fight was canceled and I think he was a bit upset about that.

I hope that Butler's aggressiveness will be shown once he faced Casimero. He's hungry in the title and for that to happen, he needs to do everything to win.

[carlisle1]

I bet also tried that several times especially for Rigo but he didn't succeed as Rigo didn't bite the bait.

Rigo knows the power of Casimero, and for sure if he gets toe to toe because he fights with his emotion, that fight could have ended in a KO and it will be Rigo who will be laying on the canvas. That fight was a boring one, not worth remembering, so I expect to see a better fight in this fight, let the KO be displayed again.

It was Rigo's pride avoiding a KO before hanging his gloves. Indeed, a boring fight and I do hope that this upcoming fight

would be another good one for Casimero to hypes his name up, though we don't know if Butler may fight the same way with Rigo and for sure

that would be another disappointment from the fans, but if in case Butler decides to go toe to toe, it will be more entertaining and if upset, take

place he will create a good noise for his own career.

[Distinctin]

It was indeed a boring fight, not worth remembering but because of Rigo's foolishness, it will be forever remembered. Lol
Same as you, I expect a better fight this time and a better outcome.

We can bet that Casimero vs Butler won't be a repeat of Casimero vs Rigo.

Seems Butler is an in-fighter and the moment Butler will just realize to make a run is when he test if he can't handle Casimero on a close bout. Butler was also in serious preparation for a long but the fight was canceled and I think he was a bit upset about that.

I hope that Butler's aggressiveness will be shown once he faced Casimero. He's hungry in the title and for that to happen, he needs to do everything to win.

It should be, but yes I know this fight won't be a replay to such boring fight. I suppose Butler will go head to head to test Casimero's reach and capabilities until he can't resist Casimero's punches. Nonetheless, I'm expecting a tough close fight on this one and hopefully Butler will do what he's mouth is talking because he had a lot of time in terms of preparation than Casimero who have just recently discharge in the hospital.

[Russlenat]

Bob is indeed one of the good Promoters "in the eyes of the Fighters" but it is not for some people.
I quite agree to say that Bob protects his Dairy Cows because this is quite true and there have been several times he has done this.
It doesn't matter what I think Inoue should be one of his opponents because it's really not funny if it doesn't happen especially if he does win against Butller

For Bob, boxing is business, so he will make sure that his investment will give him a profit, and he will not put his fighter at risk of losing because it will lose the value of his boxer and he won't be making a lot of money from a boxer. Just for example, if Inoue fight Casimero and Inoue lost the fight, that is a big lose for Arum as Inoue being a pound for pound fighter will lose his belts and will not be a champion.

Indeed, he surely knows what to do to make money in this industry with minimal risk involved and won't likely pursue any fights that won't be any good for him especially if it's Inoue or one of his best cash cows, but for now Bob is ain't interested about Casimero yet. So, Casimero should really secure this fight against Butler if he really wants Inoue to fight him. In that way, he has more chance rather than just talking trash to provoke the other side.

this is quite reasonable because indeed he always puts his boxers in something safe and indeed when indeed if inoue plays with casimero then this will be a gamble that will determine the fate of bob and the boxers he makes cash cows.
I think he is being too careful but indeed this might be a pretty good move for him because indeed Casimero is not an opponent that Inoue can really fight even though Inoue is quite strong but Casimero is above him and indeed Bob certainly predicts this

It is kind of natural for the promoters to make sure that their best boxers aren't in the disadvantage side especially when the money deal is not that reasonable for them. Not just Bob Arum but others as well do this kind of things because business is business. For now, Casimero is the one who needs Inoue to him to of course benefit and be more known in the industry but as I said, Bob ain't interested and surely had other plans for Inoue.
In that same note, Casimero should make this fight against Butler in his favor if he is that passionate to make Inoue as a stepping stone for his career because if indeed Casimero will upset Butler then Bob Arum can't avoid anymore and make Inoue fight Casimero.

[Taskford]

Bob is indeed one of the good Promoters "in the eyes of the Fighters" but it is not for some people.
I quite agree to say that Bob protects his Dairy Cows because this is quite true and there have been several times he has done this.
It doesn't matter what I think Inoue should be one of his opponents because it's really not funny if it doesn't happen especially if he does win against Butller

For Bob, boxing is business, so he will make sure that his investment will give him a profit, and he will not put his fighter at risk of losing because it will lose the value of his boxer and he won't be making a lot of money from a boxer. Just for example, if Inoue fight Casimero and Inoue lost the fight, that is a big lose for Arum as Inoue being a pound for pound fighter will lose his belts and will not be a champion.

Indeed, he surely knows what to do to make money in this industry with minimal risk involved and won't likely pursue any fights that won't be any good for him especially if it's Inoue or one of his best cash cows, but for now Bob is ain't interested about Casimero yet. So, Casimero should really secure this fight against Butler if he really wants Inoue to fight him. In that way, he has more chance rather than just talking trash to provoke the other side.

this is quite reasonable because indeed he always puts his boxers in something safe and indeed when indeed if inoue plays with casimero then this will be a gamble that will determine the fate of bob and the boxers he makes cash cows.
I think he is being too careful but indeed this might be a pretty good move for him because indeed Casimero is not an opponent that Inoue can really fight even though Inoue is quite strong but Casimero is above him and indeed Bob certainly predicts this

It is kind of natural for the promoters to make sure that their best boxers aren't in the disadvantage side especially when the money deal is not that reasonable for them. Not just Bob Arum but others as well do this kind of things because business is business. For now, Casimero is the one who needs Inoue to him to of course benefit and be more known in the industry but as I said, Bob ain't interested and surely had other plans for Inoue.
In that same note, Casimero should make this fight against Butler in his favor if he is that passionate to make Inoue as a stepping stone for his career because if indeed Casimero will upset Butler then Bob Arum can't avoid anymore and make Inoue fight Casimero.

In side of Arum maybe he thinks that he cannot get anything huge if they let Inoue fight with Casimero and their fighter will be at huge risk if Casimero surprisingly defeat him and this one can lower the stack of their current favorite fighter. This is the reason why Casimero need to have impressive win against Butler so that Arum cannot resist to make this fight to happen since the fans calling about it will surely be much stronger.

[Yamifoud]

I bet also tried that several times especially for Rigo but he didn't succeed as Rigo didn't bite the bait.

Rigo knows the power of Casimero, and for sure if he gets toe to toe because he fights with his emotion, that fight could have ended in a KO and it will be Rigo who will be laying on the canvas. That fight was a boring one, not worth remembering, so I expect to see a better fight in this fight, let the KO be displayed again.

That is what exactly Casimero wants to happen, that Rigo will let his emotion be displayed but the dude was smart enough to endure Casimero's provocative mouth and set his course not to let Casimero near him as it could be dangerous or worse, it will be his last move.

It was indeed a boring fight, not worth remembering but because of Rigo's foolishness, it will be forever remembered. Lol
Same as you, I expect a better fight this time and a better outcome.

It ended as a boring fight, probably the most boring fight of Casimero's boxing career, but enough for that, Casimero will eventually surprise us again and i believe that will happen in his upcoming fight with Butler, that surprise should be a positive one.

[Hypnosis00]

I mean, Casimero still have those speed and strength needed to take down Butler but Casimero's enemy is himself now. Aside from that, IMO Casimero needs a bariatricians or nutritionist to watch him while his training for the fight.

The strength maybe but the speed? I think he is not fast enough, he could not even catch Rigo. 

I see Casimero successful because of his great timing in the ring, if he maintains his coolness and worth smarter, then for sure he will win the fight, and who knows he can score a knockout that would make people be interested more in him again.

And why would Casimero chase Rigo for his running antics? Lol.
Rigo was surely fast enough but only to outrun Casimero and that's the only thing he can boast because he can't keep up with Casimero if they were to fight very closely, toe-to-toe. He's too obvious that he only wants the money and not to entertain people especially his fans. From that day forth, Rigo was lost his fans from his shameful behaviour.

Prior to the fight, Casimero said that he will knockout Rigo, and Rigo said that would not be possible, and he was right because his strategy was very effective and no boxer could knock out an opponent that will just run in the entire fight, he was good in running but he forget to score, that's why he lose, I'm even surprise that it was a split decision, should be a UD.

That's not new, most boxers are overconfident before the right, some even talk too much but less action in the ring, that was the case of Rigo, he wasn't aggressive and most of his activities are just defending himself from the powerful punches of Casimero, that's why the judges made a decision to score in favor of the champion.

I like to see them confident not only outside but most especially inside the ring, in the case of Rigo, he wasn't confident inside the ring against Casimero. Actually, Rigo was one of the best fighters in his division, but Casimero's power is something that would hurt anyone if his opponent is not careful, so what Rigo did is he was too careful throughout the fight leading him to throw few punches only than his usual, the result is a loss, he should not question that.

For Casimero vs Butler, this fight should be the opposite of "boring".

[Sanitough]

For Casimero vs Butler, this fight should be the opposite of "boring".

I hope so and I expect that.

Some of us here seem to be expecting that it's going to be a fair fight or Bulter has a decent chance of winning, unfortunately, bookies does not think like what we are expecting. I'm not sure if the odds are true but according to this article - https://www.thesportsgeek.com/boxing/casimero-vs-butler-betting-pick-latest-odds-and-fight-analysis/, odds are als follows.

Betting Pick   Odds and Payout per Dollar Wagered
Paul Butler Money Line   +800, $8.00
John Riel Casimero Money Line   -1500, $0.07
Over 7 ½ Rounds   -115
Under 7 ½ Rounds   -115

Now, this is a great opportunity for bettors who think Butler could pull a big upset.