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Hi, I see that this part of the forum does not have much movement. What would be the best wallet to carry on your mobile? I have seen Samourai, which seems interesting, because it carries TOR, but I have done some research and in this thread: Best wallet to improve Bitcoin privacy, Wasabi, Samourai or something else?It seems that Samourai's team does not have a very good reputation, although they compare both wallets in terms of privacy, but Wasabi does not have a mobile version. I would like to know if any of you use Samourai for mobile or another wallet and what you think.
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Samourai wallet is a good wallet in my opinion, but using it for ricochet will comes will much higher fee which is 0.002 BTC, I have not used it before but some people do recommend it. Wasabi wallet is a CoinJoin wallet, you can read their FAQ before you can think of using it at all to know what their fee look like, also like you implied, it support only computer, no mobile version. Available for mac, windows & linux and frequently asked questionsYou currently pay a fee of 0.003% * anonymity set. If the anonymity set of a coin is 50 then you pay 0.003% * 50 (=0.15%). People uses these types of what for privacy, especially CoinJoin wallet like wasabi while considering not to directly not sending coin to a centralized service for it not to be seized because it was CoinJoined. How can tainted coins becomes hard to be recognized by centralized servicesBut Samourai wallet can still also be used for making normal transaction also. You can read about making use of mixer to enhance privacy. These are lists of reputed mixers 2021 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites The mobile wallet I have used before and I like is electrum, it is also open source wallet, but it can not be compared to electrum on computer which have more features that can enhance privacy. But if you need a privacy wallet, I will suggest you to go for Bitcoin Core which will allow you to run your own node and using it with Tor, but it will require over 400 gigabyte to download the full blockchain. But if you need an SPV wallet, I will advice you to go for Electrum, but know that SPV wallets connects on public server and sychronize with the blockchain.
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I think Electrum is the best bitcoin wallet around, and you can use its android version. https://electrum.org/#downloadFor multicurrency walelts Trust Wallet is also open source and it supports a wide variety of altcoins. It has an Android version: https://trustwallet.com/download-pageI think those are the best two options for android, while I also agree that Samourai is a good choice.
Remember that no Android wallet is really safe. I think no one should ever carry more than a thousand dollars in a mobile wallet. There are many risks involved, but i think the most problematics are: - They are hot wallets - You can be approached by criminal and coerced to transfer your coins.
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What would be the best wallet to carry on your mobile?
Depends on your specific requirements... As a general rule of thumb, if you already use Electrum on the desktop and would like a "companion" app for your Mobile, then I'd recommend the Electrum android app. It isn't as full featured as the desktop app, but can be useful if you want to maintain a watching only Electrum wallet (as there aren't any other Android apps that I know of that support Electrum seeds). Another decent android wallet is Mycelium... it has lots of nice features like hardware wallet support etc. One downside is the fairly obvious monetisation attempts by the devs with the "ads" tabs (aka "Businesses" and "Crypto Betting" etc) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) They have also had some rather dubious events in the past like the sketchy russian mining campaign and the "coloured coin" fundraising thing that raised millions that seemed to get spent on a "working holiday" for the dev team at the time etc. The actual "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet) which this board was actually originally about... (Surprise! This is not a generic "android wallets" board ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) )... is also fairly robust but lacks a lot of the features of some of the other wallets. A lot of the privacy focused folks like Samourai... I've not used the more recent versions, so I can't really comment.
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This is a big LOL. I don't know if this thread should be moved to another part of the forum, then. Thanks for the answers in general, is that I am thinking in the future to make a trip somewhere where I know that you can spend Bitcoin, then I had thought to install a wallet to take something to spend. You have talked about Electrum, but I would like to keep it separate from my hardware wallet funds, take just a little bit, as Bitmover says: Remember that no Android wallet is really safe. I think no one should ever carry more than a thousand dollars in a mobile wallet.
Although that is relative, for someone holding 50 BTC, carrying 0.2 BTC in the mobile wallet is not a problem. This is not my case, of course. Do you think it would be better to carry an LN wallet? I don't know much about it, and as I understand that you have to open a channel for each site you want to pay, I don't know if it would be very useful.
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What would be the best wallet to carry on your mobile?
In addition to the above comments, I would suggest narrowing down your choices to those with reproducible builds [I do know it doesn't automatically equate to being 100% secure, but it's a good start]. Note: Some of them have recently gained a lot of mixed reviews [e.g. first one on the following list]: I am thinking in the future to make a trip somewhere where I know that you can spend Bitcoin, then I had thought to install a wallet to take something to spend. ~Snipped~ LN wallet?
The following thread might come in handy: Opinions on Phoenix Wallet?
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I would not use any android wallet as my main wallet but more for some pocket money and small transactions, but if I had to choose I would go with some open source wallet. Electrum is standard desktop spv wallet for Bitcoin but I don't like their mobile version, Mycellium wallet is full of adds, and I would better go for BlueWallet. Samourai wallet is fine if you want to have more privacy but you will still need to run your own full node to be able to send Coinjoin transactions, and maybe the best and safest option would be to have combination of hardware wallet and mobile wallet.
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I would not use any android wallet as my main wallet but more for some pocket money and small transactions, but if I had to choose I would go with some open source wallet. Electrum is standard desktop spv wallet for Bitcoin but I don't like their mobile version, Mycellium wallet is full of adds, and I would better go for BlueWallet. Samourai wallet is fine if you want to have more privacy but you will still need to run your own full node to be able to send Coinjoin transactions, and maybe the best and safest option would be to have combination of hardware wallet and mobile wallet. Unfortunately the only Android wallet I know to properly support hardware wallet is Mycelium. Indeed, it's imperfect abd it's full of ads. Still, for now I don't have any good enough replacement. From what I know Electrum doesn't support HW and from what I've read BlueWallet may be working with Coldcard (for Ledger and Trezor all I've got is how to import xpub for watch only wallet). So if OP wants to use a HW, he may have to also consider this.
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I know about the wallet, but I don't think it's safe. I used to use Samourai bitcoin wallet, but instead my bitcoins disappeared, little by little it decreased (not from the price) I don't know why. that is what I feel. I switched to using a bitcoin wallet from an exchange that came from my country, until now it is still safe.
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I know about the wallet, but I don't think it's safe. I used to use Samourai bitcoin wallet, but instead my bitcoins disappeared, little by little it decreased (not from the price) I don't know why. that is what I feel.
Then you must have used the coin mixing option, and that comes at a price, which is not cheap if you look at what @Charles-Tim wrote in his post. Therefore, I am sure that your problem with the gradual disappearance of coins has nothing to do with security, but with the fact that you were not aware of the costs you paid for using some functions of the wallet. I switched to using a bitcoin wallet from an exchange that came from my country, until now it is still safe.
I hope you know the saying “not your keys, not your coins”, and the difference between what you use now (custodial wallet) and any other crypto wallet that gives you complete control over private keys.
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Mostly android wallet is not safe, but samourai doing good, i use several week ago before i migrate to trust wallet and other BSC wallet since my investment is more volatile in the BSC network. But i consider to study other wallet that safe from malicious attack or dust attack nextday. Like someone said above, better not put too much money inside android wallet because its not safe is totally right.
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I switched to using a bitcoin wallet from an exchange that came from my country, until now it is still safe.
They're all safe... until they're not. Mt. Gox was perfectly "safe"... until it wasn't and everyone lost their coins. Cryptopia was perfectly "safe"... until it wasn't and everyone lost their coins (fingers crossed that the users recover something after the liquidators sort it out). There are also countless tales of users who had their coins in exchanges (or other custodial services) and then suddenly received "oops, your account is blocked!" emails/notifications etc ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) If that's a risk you're willing to live with for the sake of convenience, then have at it... but you're basically just using a "traditional banking" service at that point, but likely with less regulation ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I know about the wallet, but I don't think it's safe. I used to use Samourai bitcoin wallet, but instead my bitcoins disappeared, little by little it decreased (not from the price) I don't know why. that is what I feel. -snip-
Have you checked the transaction history in the Samourai wallet? From there, you can check if there are transactions that you do not recognize. ( https://docs.samourai.io/wallet/usage#balance-and-transactions). Another option, try importing seeds from the Samourai wallet to another wallet such as Electrum.
-snip- I switched to using a bitcoin wallet from an exchange that came from my country, until now it is still safe.
The wallet provided by the exchange is not entirely yours because you do not own the wallet's private key. Use it as needed for trading purposes does not as a main wallet in the long term.
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-snip- I switched to using a bitcoin wallet from an exchange that came from my country, until now it is still safe.
The wallet provided by the exchange is not entirely yours because you do not own the wallet's private key. Use it as needed for trading purposes does not as a main wallet in the long term. This is one thing about people that do not have in-depth knowledge about what bitcoin wallets generally are, some people do not know that it is not their key, they do not know what seed phrase is or private key all because they are basically using exchanges instead of noncustododial wallet. All they like to comment is that 'they have been using the wallet for long period of time', that the wallet is good, reliable and reputed, but not knowing they do not have full control over their own coin, and not only that, but also exchanges can be hacked, data breach hacks is also very possible.
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_but Wasabi does not have a mobile version.
That means it is contrary to your topic, you are saying Mobile Wallet so all your focus should be on mobile Wallet not on desktop or laptop Wallet here. By the way, talking about the best mobile Wallet to use. It is diver from user to user. I believe everyone has their best Wallet to use. As for me I like Electrum Wallet is compatible with my Android phone. Samourai Wallet is new Wallet to most of us so I can't really say anything on it for much now. But the same. Everyone uses their best Wallet on their mobile phone therefore, I do not think there is a specific mobile Wallet that is best for everyone. What is best for me might not best for you.
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I would like to know if any of you use Samourai for mobile or another wallet and what you think.
I personally have never used Samourai wallet, but I have heard alot about the wallet, maybe it's time to give it a try and see what the experience is like ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Bitcoin wallets I've used previously on Android are - 1. Blockchain.com ~ this was my first ever wallet when I started crypto newly, it was web based then, I don't know if they now have a mobile app, I quickly abandoned this wallet for the next... Which is 2. Coinnomi ~ I used this wallet for a pretty long time because it was a multi wallet which has support for almost all coins back then, I later abandoned coinomi wallet for... 3. Mycelium and trust wallets ~ this are the two wallets I am currently using on Android mobile. And I think Mycelium is a good bitcoin wallet, though it does not have any fancy features, maybe that is the reason I love the wallet, because of it simplicity and user friendly interface. I am also wishing that Wasabi would consider launching a mobile version of their wallet, I would love to try the wallet out too, just that I spend far more time on my mobile phone, far more than I do on my PC, so I've gotten so used to mobile wallets.
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1. Blockchain.com ~ this was my first ever wallet when I started crypto newly, it was web based then, I don't know if they now have a mobile app, I quickly abandoned this wallet for the next...
Blockchain.com has a mobile app, but not a mobile wallet, it is still web based wallet which is not a recommendable wallet to use. 2. Coinnomi ~ I used this wallet for a pretty long time because it was a multi wallet which has support for almost all coins back then
It is not bad to abandon a close source wallet, Coinomi is a close source wallet and close source wallets are not recommendable. 3. Mycelium and trust wallets ~ this are the two wallets I am currently using on Android mobile.
Trust wallet is close source. If you are going for altcoins, the best is to get an open source hardware wallet that supports many coins and tokens. I am also wishing that Wasabi would consider launching a mobile version of their wallet, I would love to try the wallet out too, just that I spend far more time on my mobile phone, far more than I do on my PC, so I've gotten so used to mobile wallets.
I too make use of mobile phone often, but this is the reason I have my wallets on computer that I do not use to connect to internet often than to make transactions on my wallet and for transaction and trading on the exchanges I am using.
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I've watched several videos on youtube that for the android version, Electrum can be a good recommendation to use. Previously, as a person who actively uses android because I don't have a laptop, I now use a trust wallet and will switch to electrum because electrum is also available on android and its use is also easy I can see in some tutorials.
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January 17, 2023, 01:35:07 PM |
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What would be the best wallet to carry on your mobile?
Depends on your specific requirements... The actual "Bitcoin Wallet for Android" ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet) which this board was actually originally about... (Surprise! This is not a generic "android wallets" board ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) )... is also fairly robust but lacks a lot of the features of some of the other wallets. Bitcoin wallet mentioned above helped me a lot in applying crypto culture IRL. My first transaction went smoothly with this wallet as it connects to blockchain nodes and you may see confirmations going ON AIR. Main thing is to fill up this thing! And I'll be most happy to know potential sources. My main is one of the mostly advertised on these pages. So far I had to pay 7-12% to perform exchanges. But usability of the wallet solves more problems then it creates potential issues. Therefore I stick to it. Can't wait to pay for services and goods directly from wallet to seller!
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January 18, 2023, 07:19:48 PM |
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There are many bitcoin wallet for android. But now a days those wallet isn't safe for using. I prefer hardware wallet for holding any cryptocurrency's like BTC ETH many more. you can buy leger wallet for keep your fund safe. Personally i use safepal hardware wallet for my own fund.
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