{LIST}of the Merit Sources asking for more smerit. New Round.

[fillippone]

Yes, Theymos hand picks the merit sources, likely with input from the community.

Oh yes, I understand theymos hand picks MS, what I meant is this reshuffle implied a lot of selections manually by himself.
What I understood from last time is that MS allowances were to be adjusted using some sort of algorithm. But since I was expecting a semi yearly automatic adjustment, while we got a manual adjustment after two years, probably it is just me but understanding.

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[fillippone]

Wow! That has been an hell of a ride!
I guess I have to adapt to the new allowance:



I am waiting for next month update by @Coin-1 to see the full chart… even if this looks promising.

[LoyceV]

Wow! That has been an hell of a ride!

Might I suggest trying to send 1/30th of your source each day, so they replenish at a regular interval 30 days later?

[fillippone]

Wow! That has been an hell of a ride!

Might I suggest trying to send 1/30th of your source each day, so they replenish at a regular interval 30 days later?

This is a very sensible suggestion. Nothing less I could expect from an AI.
Of course you know things are a little bit more complicated as doing so I would deplete my MS allowance, but the received sMerits stash would grow uncontrolled (this stash grow with a not forecastable pace)
But of course yes, smoothing is the name of the game.

[LoyceV]

Of course you know things are a little bit more complicated as doing so I would deplete my MS allowance, but the received sMerits stash would grow uncontrolled (this stash grow with a not forecastable pace)

True. Then just send a tad more each day (after the first month). I used to keep my source as close to 0 as possible, which means I used "my own" sMerit once in a while too.
Lately though, I haven't been able to empty my source, so "my own" sMerits are piling up to ridiculous heights too.

[Welsh]

Might I suggest trying to send 1/30th of your source each day, so they replenish at a regular interval 30 days later?

If anyone is worried about not meriting posts that they've read already, but refrained giving merit because of following this guideline, then just put them into a text document, and review them at the end of the month. Any sMerit you have used then, could potentially be used to merit these posts that you have missed. Also, you could use the following months merit allocation to make up for these lost posts. You could alternatively just work on a backlog, and award the posts in your file you found the day before.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Wow! That has been an hell of a ride!
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Dang, bro--I didn't even realize you'd received that many merits.  That's one hell of an accomplishment (and you deserve it)!

I don't quite fully understand what Theymos did with his last change to the merit system and source's monthly allocations, but I'm assuming my sMerits will be at least partially replenished next month at some point.  I've used up most of the 1000 that got airdropped to me, but fortunately I still have over 100 left and have some earned ones as well.  You, I'm sure, have plenty of earned sMerits at your disposal and there's nothing wrong with using them up if need be.

Lately though, I haven't been able to empty my source, so "my own" sMerits are piling up to ridiculous heights too.

I had that problem for a while, and somehow it suddenly turned into a situation where I kept running low on both source and earned sMerits, which is why I was begging Theymos to increase my allocation.  Hopefully that won't happen again for however long I'm a merit source.

[Welsh]

even if this looks promising.

Also, I've just noticed this, but is it a coincidence that your spent merit has landed on "1337" or are you showing off?

I don't quite fully understand what Theymos did with his last change to the merit system and source's monthly allocations, but I'm assuming my sMerits will be at least partially replenished next month at some point.  I've used up most of the 1000 that got airdropped to me, but fortunately I still have over 100 left and have some earned ones as well.

Probably an effort from theymos to encourage users to use more merits per post, rather than spreading out their merit more. That's only an assumption on my behalf though. I'm expecting those who had their merit source increased, will get that amount back within the 30 days that they spent it. Judging by the sent merits, either not a lot of merit sources had theirs increased to the 1000 or they just haven't got through them. 

[fillippone]

even if this looks promising.

Also, I've just noticed this, but is it a coincidence that your spent merit has landed on "1337" or are you showing off?

Coincidence!
The chart is updated real time, and that number is only caused by the merit I gather and I immediately send away.
Next couple of merit I receive, leet is gone!

[fillippone]

There are 111 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 34139 sMerit per 30 days

Generated 34 000 merit, and distributed only ~26 000 merit.

As someone said, it will take a few months for every MS to adjust their pace: you and me were front running our allocation, while other may be on the opposti being “lazy”.
 On the other hands, the important thing is those merits will trickle down the forum: when a MS sends 100 merits, it would be disappointing seeing 100 merits circulation in the forum, as those merits generate others (up to 196 if I am not wrong…). Try to apply this computation for the 34k…

[DdmrDdmr]

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I make the best case scenario for 100 to be 197 tricked down (100+50+25+12+6+3+1), and 34K to turn into 67.995 at best.
Edit: Lapsus plumae between 6 and 9 ...

Personally, I’ve neglected in hitting the right awarding tone in terms of amount per TX. I presumed my initial pace was good enough to empty out my allowance with 2 sMerits per TXs on average, but seeing that there is now less than a week to complete the cycle, and still plenty in stock, I should probably rethink my initial plan. Of course, I’m now finding less posts to merit than a couple of weeks ago, so that didn’t help me to stay on course … I’m therefore on the "lazy" end.

[o_e_l_e_o]

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I make the best case scenario for 100 to be 167 tricked down (100+50+25+12+6+3+1), and 34K to turn into 67.995 at best.

Your math is wrong. The numbers you have given add up to 197, not 167.

Regardless, 100 merit fully distributed generates 100 more smerit. Since each 1 merit generates 0.5 smerit, you an create a simple infinite series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1/2_%2B_1/4_%2B_1/8_%2B_1/16_%2B_%E2%8B%AF

100 merit given generates 50 (100/2) smerit.
50 merit given generates 25 (100/4) smerit.
25 merit given generates 12.5 (100/8) smerit.

Create the infinite series:

100/2 + 100/4 + 100/8 + 100/16 + 100/32 + ...

As the the merit is fully distributed, then the sum of the series converges on 100.

Just because if I give you 25 merit you only gain 12 smerit, doesn't mean the 0.5 is wasted. It is still applied to your account and waits for you to earn another 1 merit/0.5 smerit to then be available to spend, so you cannot disregard it from your calculation when considering merit being fully distributed.

[fillippone]

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I make the best case scenario for 100 to be 167 tricked down (100+50+25+12+6+3+1), and 34K to turn into 67.995 at best.

Your math is wrong. The numbers you have given add up to 197, not 167.

Regardless, 100 merit fully distributed generates 100 more smerit. Since each 1 merit generates 0.5 smerit, you an create a simple infinite series.

100 merit given generates 50 (100/2) smerit.
50 merit given generates 25 (100/4) smerit.
25 merit given generates 12.5 (100/8) smerit.

Create the infinite series:

100/2 + 100/4 + 100/8 + 100/16 + 100/32 + ...

As the the merit is fully distributed, then the sum of the series converges on 100.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1/2_%2B_1/4_%2B_1/8_%2B_1/16_%2B_%E2%8B%AF

Oh, where are merits when you need those!
Please someone merit this man.

While I suspect 167 is a typo, your objection on the infinite serie is actually correct. Maybe at a “forum level” as our computation don’t account for “half merits” that get “lost” at individual level.

[JayJuanGee]

There are 111 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 34139 sMerit per 30 days

Generated 34 000 merit, and distributed only ~26 000 merit.

As someone said, it will take a few months for every MS to adjust their pace: you and me were front running our allocation, while other may be on the opposti being “lazy”.

Call me "lazy" if you must.  I would like to call it "pacing" myself or some other more positive way of framing the matter..

I will admit that I did front run mine too a wee bit, too.. and I consider value in some of the front running (not just getting the balance off the books)... but I did not consider front running to be so valuable as to cause me to want to blow the whole wadd...

Yeah.. whatever, whatever, whatever, they be coming back in 30 days... no big deal, right?

For sure, a goal of using all the source quantity in 30 days and achieving it would be maximizing the allocation and reallocation, but without being out of smerits... there is likely still a bit of marginal distribution benefits to the forum to have the smerits distributed more quickly.. but I find 30 days to be a kind of rounding error in the whole balancing of matters.  

On the other hands, the important thing is those merits will trickle down the forum: when a MS sends 100 merits, it would be disappointing seeing 100 merits circulation in the forum, as those merits generate others (up to 196 if I am not wrong…). Try to apply this computation for the 34k…

100 probably generates 96 more for a total of 196 coming from 100.

Edit.. whatever.. you "actual use of maths" guys made the point way better than my lame pointing out.. and I really don't get the infinite point.. because fractions below 1 do not really matter.. in terms of needing to have two .5s to make a 1 to even be able to spend it... but maybe some other point is being made in regards to infinite.

Edit #2.. Ok... I reread my above thoughts on the infinite matter, and sure, I guess that it is making some sense because there will be a lot of smerits that are generated at the .5 smerit threshold, and merely waiting for the other .5 smerits in order to make them spendable.... so that bank of potential all count in some kind of theoretical way (but also in a kind of real way, too).. event though they cannot be spent in a kind of infinite way... of getting smaller and smaller and smaller even while they are just not realized until getting their other .5 smerit match.. so if that unspendableness of the .5 smerit does seem to move it from the theoretical infinite to the actually not infinite category.... but a mere ball of unrealized (but possibly realizable) potentiality in the forum.

[El duderino_]

Wow! That has been an hell of a ride!

Might I suggest trying to send 1/30th of your source each day, so they replenish at a regular interval 30 days later?

Yeah I have done the same strategie….

Works fine imo

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I don't know if this thread is still active but I'll love to indicate my interest of getting some additional source smerits if such discussion comes on board in the future. I think I didn't receive extra source merit when that was done last, I wasn't active on the meta board to indicate interest if that was how it was done but just want to indicate interest on time now Incase the issue araise in future. Thanks.