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October 07, 2021, 10:30:45 PM
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I think that this is going to be quite unenforceable.

Governments can ban whatever they want but at the end of the day if they can't prevent people from using VPNs etc. it's not going to work.

Seems like a knee-jerk reaction in my opinion. An overreaction to a tragedy that implicates the whole population & probably their tax revenue negatively.

The implementation of the law is due to the person committing suicide. And they neglect the possible benefits of the government because of this situation. What they can do in my opinion is educate their citizens about gambling or offer help to those that are into gambling. Because no matter what the restriction of the government is, people will still gamble. Now, they will resort to using VPN or underground network, in which, the government has not control of.
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October 07, 2021, 10:32:27 PM
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If thats the set-up then theres no much that citizens could do even if they would file up a petition or make out some rallies or something trying to fight for opposition then it would be just useless or senseless.
Government could impose out new rules as much as they like and exclude out things which they do seem that will really be beneficial for them and even you do saw that it wasnt really totally been blocked
and there are still some games which are allowed but it seems it isnt really for ordinary gamblers then what you can do?

It is useless if only petitions are made, citizens will clearly not obey the rules that the government has just implemented even though they have to be involved in legal sanctions. Gamblers will do it secretly. Not much different from other countries where gambling is still in the illegal category but does not make gamblers stop there. There is always some naughty activity behind it.

The existence of an option is important for the stability of the government system, both in the application of sharp laws only for the lower middle class society while blunt for the nobles in India.

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October 07, 2021, 10:45:28 PM
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If only lawmakers would abandon their war on gambling and pursue causes with a higher potential to improve life and standard of living. If governments showed the same enthusiasm for decreasing oil prices, that they do for their war on gambling, the world would be a much different and better place.

While there are unfortunate and sad stories about gambling addiction. There are also a small segment of the population who are winning gamblers who profit and earn a living from gambling. Its irresponsible for the media to illustrate gambling as being an entirely negative thing. Gambling isn't so different from lotteries, prize giveaways, sweepstakes and other formats that people appear to use responsibly without much negative trend.

There are people who are consistently earning money who are becoming millionaires off fantasy sports. While gambling addiction is sad, I don't think wiping out the entire industry -- with many jobs people rely upon, is the answer.
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October 07, 2021, 10:49:47 PM
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Shouldn't they include all forms of gambling if they are talking about gambling all the same? If the situation is grave in the said state, then people coming from the said area should avoid trying to access gambling sites illegally. It's quite saddening that they have to react negatively (and in a somewhat exaggerated manner) due to the death of a single individual whom cannot control themselves from gambling. It affects a whole industry and the population which relies on the said industry.

Lawmakers in Karnataka should invest more in studying the effects of gambling on one's mind and not just preemptively create laws banning something they do not fully grasp, understand, or control.
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October 07, 2021, 11:03:02 PM
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I think that this is going to be quite unenforceable.

Governments can ban whatever they want but at the end of the day if they can't prevent people from using VPNs etc. it's not going to work.

Seems like a knee-jerk reaction in my opinion. An overreaction to a tragedy that implicates the whole population & probably their tax revenue negatively.

The implementation of the law is due to the person committing suicide. And they neglect the possible benefits of the government because of this situation. What they can do in my opinion is educate their citizens about gambling or offer help to those that are into gambling. Because no matter what the restriction of the government is, people will still gamble. Now, they will resort to using VPN or underground network, in which, the government has not control of.
I don't know why they have to do it when there are any other possible way that most people would most likely to participate in gambling and they should ban horse racing too instead of excluding it from the law since it's still a gambling game although, the regulation is all about online but it doesn't matter since people will still gonna play gambling games be it online or offline.

I think the government of India think of it as a quick countermeasure to online gambling but they didn't think beyond the line that almost other gambling would be a cause too for someone to lose and/or worst would take their life away.

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October 07, 2021, 11:27:58 PM
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I don't know why they have to do it when there are any other possible way that most people would most likely to participate in gambling and they should ban horse racing too instead of excluding it from the law since it's still a gambling game although, the regulation is all about online but it doesn't matter since people will still gonna play gambling games be it online or offline.

I think the government of India think of it as a quick countermeasure to online gambling but they didn't think beyond the line that almost other gambling would be a cause too for someone to lose and/or worst would take their life away.

well, the final say comes from the government, and maybe, owed to politics, they can't totally eradicate the gambling platforms related to horse racing, which definitely is also gambling. and when it comes to online gambling, even if the govt ban this method, people will always find a way how to get around this ban. the technology today will make sure you can bypass this kind of restriction. i guess in time, their govt will review this protocol and they may change their stance on this matter in the future.

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October 07, 2021, 11:46:33 PM
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If I am correct Gambling is banned in India and the same applies for betting. There are some states that allow lottery, not sure which states do. This kind of a ban does not make any sense as offline and online gambling falls under the ban. That is why there are so many incidents of illegal gambling and betting activities happening in India. I do not think such bans will affect a gamblers because if they want to gamble they will find a way.

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October 07, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
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If I am correct Gambling is banned in India and the same applies for betting. There are some states that allow lottery, not sure which states do. This kind of a ban does not make any sense as offline and online gambling falls under the ban. That is why there are so many incidents of illegal gambling and betting activities happening in India. I do not think such bans will affect a gamblers because if they want to gamble they will find a way.
When someone is much used to it, automatically he/she will find a way to use it. This is common with gambling and everything. Within India people need to be educated, rather than the education myself suggest to show the two sides of gambling on promotion. In every promotion for online gambling platforms they show just as winning and life change. This is unfair. At last a small note will be read, gambling has got financial risk so okay accordingly. When this changes automatically everything will change.

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October 08, 2021, 12:54:06 AM
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I'm afraid this will only pave way for illegal gambling operators. I hope I'm wrong, but a blanket ban over gambling, with the exception of horse racing, might only cause a lot of unintended consequences. Some of which could be the proliferation of illegal gambling, the failure to monitor and intervene gambling addiction cases, and so on.

I think what needs to be done is not a complete ban but a strict regulation. Of course, implementation is also very vital, which I think is poorly done, if at all, not just in Karnataka but the whole of India.

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October 08, 2021, 01:07:08 AM
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Like everything else about horse racing being excluded, does the government there have a good reason why horse racing could be excluded? because if in the end everyone ran to the horse races and gambled, then the existing heretical rules would only benefit the horse racing dealers. If that's the rule, then I agree that all types of gambling, whatever the name, must be stopped.


Because this kind of gambling involves the big names in the country where the bet is huge and the government enjoyed it especially when they get the TAX out of it. the more the bets. the more cash they get from it. The same for cockfighting in our country where is obviously not right because they both hurting the animals and gamble without any limitations. They banned all the gambling activities in the country except the one that pays tax regularly. As long you pay the tax, they won't touch you.
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October 08, 2021, 01:17:43 AM
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If I am correct Gambling is banned in India and the same applies for betting. There are some states that allow lottery, not sure which states do. This kind of a ban does not make any sense as offline and online gambling falls under the ban. That is why there are so many incidents of illegal gambling and betting activities happening in India. I do not think such bans will affect a gamblers because if they want to gamble they will find a way.

it's a bit of a test for one state only to see what effects would do if they ban online gambling in one area. this is big and a progressive state in India known for its commercial businesses. the pandemic has created more people to go online and do stuff in there as gambling and then addiction. the government is up to stop addiction.

suicide because of gambling loss, is the outcome of addiction and this is just one person. there are more out there that might kill themselves without calling hotlines so the government steps.


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October 08, 2021, 02:24:41 AM
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What I think is that India anyway, they want to be an important part of both the gambling and the BTC market, for me their strategy is basic and low, prohibit and then seek negotiation, which translates into implementing a "business model "It is well known that now the future and especially the money is going the way of BTC, gambling, casinos and NFT games. In this case, they are attacking casinos and gambling games because they know that many play and spend very large sums of money, they are taking advantage of an unfortunate event such as the suicide of the young man, but that is only the excuse to enter. The amendments can be reversed according to the interests of the governments, which, I think is what they are looking for, where obviously, they do not take into account the community of players of such an important country and specifically in Karnataka, I think it is a matter of months to reach a level of negotiation with the casinos and bookmakers, where obviously they will demand a high tax.

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October 08, 2021, 02:33:22 AM
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Governments can ban whatever they want but at the end of the day if they can't prevent people from using VPNs etc. it's not going to work.

the person who is using VPN at the end of the day will leave with many losses and will still run the risk of responding criminally.

1 - if he is caught by the casinos security system he will have his account blocked along with the funds

2 - if he is caught by the police he will be arrested

I honestly don't see the advantage of taking this risk.

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October 08, 2021, 03:20:58 AM
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India is a very religious country with so many religion, and this is why Gambling is very unethical for them though of course, they can still gamble but on a illegal way. This ban is a big thing for them, though I don't think this will affect the whole market. Banning such thing will force everyone not to gamble at all or else they'll face consequences, I'm not sure with their laws but if its illegal better to follow it.

Nope. That is not the case. It is true that India is a very religious country. But the ban on gambling is not a result of religious interference. In India, the government believes that it has the right to intervene in the personal lives of its citizens. Alcohol is banned in some of the states and porn is banned across India. The government believes that they have the right to tell the population what is right for them and what is wrong. Even if a secular government was in power, they would do the same.

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I'm afraid this will only pave way for illegal gambling operators. I hope I'm wrong, but a blanket ban over gambling, with the exception of horse racing, might only cause a lot of unintended consequences. Some of which could be the proliferation of illegal gambling, the failure to monitor and intervene gambling addiction cases, and so on.

I think what needs to be done is not a complete ban but a strict regulation. Of course, implementation is also very vital, which I think is poorly done, if at all, not just in Karnataka but the whole of India.

I'm very certain that illegal gambling operator will probably going to happen due to the banned of online gambling. The said banned will definitely affect the estate economy in which everyone knows that gambling activities are one of the good source of revenue because of the tax but on the other hand a single case of suicide might be of course need to consider since the government role is to protect the people. But since Karnataka government almost banned any related gambling and betting activities but why then there's an exception of horse racing in their banned thus horse racing isn't a gambling or betting related?
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October 08, 2021, 05:12:48 AM
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Like everything else about horse racing being excluded, does the government there have a good reason why horse racing could be excluded? because if in the end everyone ran to the horse races and gambled, then the existing heretical rules would only benefit the horse racing dealers. If that's the rule, then I agree that all types of gambling, whatever the name, must be stopped.

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There are several physical sports betting media that might be considered more appropriate. Also considering horse racing betting is disputed by several parties.

India is not one of the countries with the top horse racing popularity, but a major horse racing event is held every year in the country ~source. There's no way a regulation would remove a source of revenue from the gambling industry without leaving one (the biggest one), especially if the country hosts events frequently. In this case, horse racing events contribute some income, ranging from organizing permits, sponsorships, to the bets of the gamblers involved.

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October 08, 2021, 06:26:04 AM
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Therefore be careful if you are Gambling in Karnataka now. Some sites do block the VPN as well, so you might be in a loss if you try to bet on things without legal consent from the government, let's hope the amends can be made in a positive sense, they might restrict but outright banning might cause people to use underhanded methods to engage in it, what do you think ?
There will always be a way for gamblers to funnel their desire to play, maybe using a VPN at an Online Casino can get our account blocked but not all online casinos forbid the use of VPN, there still casinos that allow this. As long as there is an internet connection they will find a way to play, and in my opinion, it would be better stringent regulations than banning gambling.
In fact prohibiting it, will make illegal casinos more, even players can still gather to gamble, especially sport betting is easy to still play just contact friend and choose the sport want to betting.

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The government's new update really makes people who use online gambling shock and can not believe that. But I think some gamblers who use online gambling already prepare the worst scenario with the new update from the government. Hopefully, that can really reduce the number of people who want to play online gambling.

But I think they can not block all VPN providers because that will need time before they can block the VPN access, which is not easy to do. And if traditional gambling is not prohibited, people can still play gambling by using land-based casinos. We will see what will happen to them later.



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October 08, 2021, 09:54:11 AM
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Exactly right, the Karnataka government's sudden ban on online gambling has had a detrimental effect on gamblers. Gambling halls are sitting online. This time the Karnataka government brought a bill to stop this dishonest activity. Even if he plays through VPN if the government understands the crime will be punished with 6 months imprisonment and a fine of Tk 10,000. Anyone who helps or persuades in betting will also be punished.
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October 08, 2021, 11:47:15 AM
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The law was submitted following the death of a guy due to gambling losses ( he committed suicide)
 
This is an isolated case, there are cases like this in other countries but they are not banning online betting and gambling, and what's the difference between online betting and horse racing that they exclude horse racing, they are both a form of gambling, and gamblers can still lose on both gambling forms.
This is not good there are people who treat online gambling as a form of entertainment and they should not suffer from this harsh law, those playing online betting for a long time will find ways to still play, they should do a feasibility study first before coming up with a harsh law.

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