Bitvest is a scam

[hello_good_sir]

I actually agree with this one.

The behaviour of not having a hot wallet and allowing cash outs to be cancelled is definitely shady.

I doubt that you'll be "scammed outright" if you play though. Lightlord has been around a while, has always been less than professional, but yet has always paid out at the end of the day.

Everyone is hoping for the best for him and even if he's too busy in things that he does. He should maintain the best service that's been known to them including the emptiness of their hot wallet. And as they promote instant cashout then that's what they have to maintain and always have someone to refill their hot wallet from time to time or make a definitive way to refill it automatically from the players fund that have lost to them just recently so that it's just a cycle of winners fund for withdrawal and losers fund to refill.

Yeah exactly.

Almost ponzi like if they don't handle this properly so waters can get muddy pretty quickly.

I'm not sure whether this is genuinely a scam attempt though, I'm fairly sure it's just perpetual mismanagement of the entire business or a result of not putting in enough effort for the maintenance of the company imho.

[FatFork]

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

You're aware that scam is different from spam, right?
Do you really need a proof of that? You can easily compare the number of posts the users will write this week, while the campaign is paused.

[batang_bitcoin]

I actually agree with this one.

The behaviour of not having a hot wallet and allowing cash outs to be cancelled is definitely shady.

I doubt that you'll be "scammed outright" if you play though. Lightlord has been around a while, has always been less than professional, but yet has always paid out at the end of the day.

Everyone is hoping for the best for him and even if he's too busy in things that he does. He should maintain the best service that's been known to them including the emptiness of their hot wallet. And as they promote instant cashout then that's what they have to maintain and always have someone to refill their hot wallet from time to time or make a definitive way to refill it automatically from the players fund that have lost to them just recently so that it's just a cycle of winners fund for withdrawal and losers fund to refill.

Yeah exactly.

Almost ponzi like if they don't handle this properly so waters can get muddy pretty quickly.

I'm not sure whether this is genuinely a scam attempt though, I'm fairly sure it's just perpetual mismanagement of the entire business or a result of not putting in enough effort for the maintenance of the company imho.

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

[harizen]

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

I have to agree with you that scam might not be the appropriate term and Bitvest won't likely be turned into that.

But if that kind of action wherein everything is always a long delay, either in their campaign or to their user's withdrawal at their site, that was already unprofessional. Delays are ok and can't be avoided but if that's always the case for long, it's not good anymore and something needs to be done.

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

[batang_bitcoin]

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

I have to agree with you that scam might not be the appropriate term and Bitvest won't likely be turned into that.

But if that kind of action wherein everything is always a long delay, either in their campaign or to their user's withdrawal at their site, that was already unprofessional. Delays are ok and can't be avoided but if that's always the case for long, it's not good anymore and something needs to be done.

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

We're all speculating and waiting what will happen next when it's already properly addressed.
There must be a method to be used that will give back the confidence of those loyal players on their site about the problem of emptying of hot wallet when the owner is away.

[Rengga Jati]

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

We do not know how the continuation of this case, and we also do not know the truth of this case.
If I read this is only related to the accusation, and the accusations are not necessarily the truth. Moreover, he did not provide evidence that was convincing. And the description of whether he had contacted them or got a response from them.
Maybe he experienced a little obstacle on this platform but he only created an account and posted this accusation. After that, he didn't return. Really strange.

[chaser15]

Maybe he experienced a little obstacle on this platform but he only created an account and posted this accusation. After that, he didn't return. Really strange.

There's no scam exactly but OP is frustrated with the service which is understandable. I don't know how long OP has a problem now and we don't know if it's real and genuine. Don't know the status of how fast their withdrawal is on their gambling site but if we will be based on their signature campaign here, payments are not made even on a monthly basis if I heard it right. If those simple things can't be fixed, how more to the technical side especially the part of refilling the hot wallet.

Waiting for a long withdrawal is not convenient for a gambler. It's one of the factors that gamblers are looking into before using a gambling site.

[Xxmodded]

Usually gambling site have less few minutes withdrawing process but what your problem until withdraw delay, I think Bitvest still not scam and you need to get contact and talk your problem there, with this tread maybe have their team can see and solve your problem. Still have many advertisement about Bitvest gambling site on every where and on this forum still have this site and I think is indicate not scam.

[MrcMrc]

Bitvest is one of the popular gambling platforms on this forum, yes the owner of the site was absent on this forum for some days but have returned and made an announcement which shows the site is not a scam but the operator needs more hands to handle the site properly rather than making it a one-man show.

[traderethereum]

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

Yes, it is almost 48 hours.
Hopefully, @lightlord can pay his participant at the right time and announce something related to the campaign.
When @lightlord says that he will send the payment in the next 48 hours, he will keep his promise and send it to them.
But hanging their participants without paying for a long time is not good for the campaign and participants.
So maybe there will be a discussion between @CB and @lightlord about the campaign.

Bitvest is one of the popular gambling platforms on this forum, yes the owner of the site was absent on this forum for some days but have returned and made an announcement which shows the site is not a scam but the operator needs more hands to handle the site properly rather than making it a one-man show.

Besides that, Bitvest is already part of this forum for a long time ago.
And @lightlord always paid the participants, although he delays from bi-week into a month or more.
Hopefully, everything can be clear to all of his participants and all of them can get paid at the right time.

[Qunenin]

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

Its none of your matter if they pay low to the signature campaign participants. They have hired a good manager and i don't think anyone who spam can remain in that campaign. If you see any spam by those participants you can highlight them to the campaign manager and he may take steps if your observation is valid.

[worle1bm]

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

Most probably they make delays in the payment but also gave bonuses with next payment which is why members prefer to remain in the campaign aside from the longest running campaign on the forum.The manager is taking all the work with responsibility but he can't pay from his own pocket unless he receives funds from the owners of the campaign.But still the members need to take responsibility of their campaign that whether they want to join or not.

[Bagaji]

O.P has is yet to reply or comment any of the questions which signifying that he has not serious allegation against Bitvest and even those are complaining against none payment of the signature campaign have all received their payment with bonus.

[peter0425]

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

Yes, it is almost 48 hours.
Hopefully, @lightlord can pay his participant at the right time and announce something related to the campaign.
When @lightlord says that he will send the payment in the next 48 hours, he will keep his promise and send it to them.
But hanging their participants without paying for a long time is not good for the campaign and participants.
So maybe there will be a discussion between @CB and @lightlord about the campaign.

lightlord buzzer beat the occasion as he already Paid the participants now meaning OP must lock this thread because bitvest never scammed anyone with complete proof in this forum or out.

here is the post of the owner just minutes ago with High Bonus

Bonus on all the rounds, bigger on the earlier ones

Bonus Sent Round 137-146
Round 137: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ce630d950d5849134f09fb9346c9eff2cdfd42abbf3b3a6537c1f05f70140291
Round 138: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/f6333022d7c80ba736d779e48ff01889fbe44eb7c1aee577c73beadb248d7cec
Round 139: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/3744029b088bd53e1a3e4ee27bdfd696d101968e4a301b78540f97cbec9e87b0
Round 140: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d53af920283dc78ab430ad09ef896904e4d390d65d5992d83dccff96f34265a9
Round 141: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1e9cdf056dd0343c0a0eeb67143541826831dc86b58f9ac0b6c87991b1f18c66
Round 142: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/118443b7cd1f2de226b3f8104b5767d962ab2a0a227ac4191df29a679bcbc3f7
Round 143: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/95cce83c4f36fdd53b6f3f2bcfebdc0f457842212e8fe70c4d9fb8908eb7b134
Round 144: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/08be4ba028344a6f5acf50d33f3401bf69a7ff921e7feeb168c4d81e3578b1ba
Round 145: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/3ffb6f829d4a951566cf2ed48269c13f1b281e402bd52d4bb33b489355b5cced
Round 146: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/9850ae6b058ae4f5947adfbe5616cceb3c21b8763b9408c4c3e6d3c00d3e1925

[slackovic]

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

Most probably they make delays in the payment but also gave bonuses with next payment which is why members prefer to remain in the campaign aside from the longest running campaign on the forum.The manager is taking all the work with responsibility but he can't pay from his own pocket unless he receives funds from the owners of the campaign.But still the members need to take responsibility of their campaign that whether they want to join or not.

Oh, I see that some people here doesn't know the difference between scam and spam. I never said that Bitvest is a scam. OP did that for reasons that only he knows. I said that the campaign is "forcing" people to spam  (not scam, but spam) the forum with posts that are written just to boost the post count.

[rodskee]

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

Most probably they make delays in the payment but also gave bonuses with next payment which is why members prefer to remain in the campaign aside from the longest running campaign on the forum.The manager is taking all the work with responsibility but he can't pay from his own pocket unless he receives funds from the owners of the campaign.But still the members need to take responsibility of their campaign that whether they want to join or not.

Oh, I see that some people here doesn't know the difference between scam and spam. I never said that Bitvest is a scam. OP did that for reasons that only he knows. I said that the campaign is "forcing" people to spam  (not scam, but spam) the forum with posts that are written just to boost the post count.

I think he is referring about the title as it was called out as Scam and not about your post calling it as spam.

just a misunderstanding i believe ..


Anyway like what posted above , the campaign already  being paid so the new case is about escrowing the funds for payment purposes .

also the main concern here in this thread is about the "Hot Wallet" in which the point of OP but of course the topic runs out of it and comes to the signature campaign.

Hope that lightlord will make some good action not only in His weekly obligation in the signature but also giving assurance about the filling of Hot wallet every here and there as that is the issue of the gamblers in His gambling sites.

[Doell]

Usually gambling site have less few minutes withdrawing process but what your problem until withdraw delay, I think Bitvest still not scam and you need to get contact and talk your problem there, with this tread maybe have their team can see and solve your problem. Still have many advertisement about Bitvest gambling site on every where and on this forum still have this site and I think is indicate not scam.

"read the full content" well if the main wallet of the site or hot wallet for payments has fill up it will definitely be instant ,the OP case is actually vexation so that he gets emotional and as he wrote that the OP play again and then lost ,that triggers someone's emotional pressure so that he declare a scam
I don't know bitvest if make a withdrawal it maybe can canceled by player and play again ,but should have waited for payment because maybe the owner was away so it didn't fill up hot wallet ,in this case every gambler maybe equally vexation because waiting is a very boring thing but have to be patient and keep calm

[sikke]

O.P has is yet to reply or comment any of the questions which signifying that he has not serious allegation against Bitvest and even those are complaining against none payment of the signature campaign have all received their payment with bonus.

You downplay it way too much.

Bitvest has been doing this for YEARS. It's not something that has occurred just as a one-off or anything. And not to mention the hot wallet being empty issue that is more important than the signature campaign issue.

It's not a scam as of yet but it's definitely close to that territory. A business that constantly fails its clients in delivering outcomes is not a good business at the very least.

[jrrsparkles]

O.P has is yet to reply or comment any of the questions which signifying that he has not serious allegation against Bitvest and even those are complaining against none payment of the signature campaign have all received their payment with bonus.

You downplay it way too much.

Bitvest has been doing this for YEARS. It's not something that has occurred just as a one-off or anything. And not to mention the hot wallet being empty issue that is more important than the signature campaign issue.

It's not a scam as of yet but it's definitely close to that territory. A business that constantly fails its clients in delivering outcomes is not a good business at the very least.

They have been very late to make the signature campaign on most of the occasions but they did at some point even nkw people received the payouts but being silent is what makes them to look bad in the eyes of community so they should open up or atleast appoint a representative to take care of this forum works.

[acroman08]

lightlord buzzer beat the occasion as he already Paid the participants now meaning OP must lock this thread because bitvest never scammed anyone with complete proof in this forum or out.

OP wasn't even talking about the delayed campaign payments. lightlord paying the signature campaign participants has nothing to do with the thread. anyway, I also think there was no scam that happened and I still think OP was frustrated when he created this thread I should move on and find another gambling site that suits him best.

as for lightlord not being able to pay his signature campaign participants on time, (just like what LoyceV said on another thread) I think it's time for him to hire an escrow so the participants can be paid on time and not wait months before getting paid.