Bitvest is a scam

[Bitinity]

lightlord buzzer beat the occasion as he already Paid the participants now meaning OP must lock this thread because bitvest never scammed anyone with complete proof in this forum or out.

OP wasn't even talking about the delayed campaign payments. lightlord paying the signature campaign participants has nothing to do with the thread. anyway, I also think there was no scam that happened and I still think OP was frustrated when he created this thread I should move on and find another gambling site that suits him best.

as for lightlord not being able to pay his signature campaign participants on time, (just like what LoyceV said on another thread) I think it's time for him to hire an escrow so the participants can be paid on time and not wait months before getting paid.

You are right, OP's main idea is not about the delayed payment of the campaign but it is about the empty hot wallet. It is not scam indeed, but it is all about lateness from lightlord to refill hot wallet. I dont know why once there is a complain about the hot wallet, then most people will connect it to the delayed payment of the campaign. It happens most of all the time.

[danherbias07]

I saw that campaign participants are already paid in their service thread and I think we should set aside that problem now.
lightlord also answered about the campaign late payments and will change it by means of escrow.

Regarding the scam accusation of OP according to title, it should be changed to "late payments or late refills". It became a click bait because of it and other members are worried about the Bitvest situation.

While the "hot wallet" issue has still no answers though you should inquire in the Bitvest thread about it. Perhaps you and the other players could also make an agreement about the date/time of refills or whatever they are called.

[bitzizzix]

lightlord buzzer beat the occasion as he already Paid the participants now meaning OP must lock this thread because bitvest never scammed anyone with complete proof in this forum or out.

OP wasn't even talking about the delayed campaign payments. lightlord paying the signature campaign participants has nothing to do with the thread. anyway, I also think there was no scam that happened and I still think OP was frustrated when he created this thread I should move on and find another gambling site that suits him best.

as for lightlord not being able to pay his signature campaign participants on time, (just like what LoyceV said on another thread) I think it's time for him to hire an escrow so the participants can be paid on time and not wait months before getting paid.

You are right, OP's main idea is not about the delayed payment of the campaign but it is about the empty hot wallet. It is not scam indeed, but it is all about lateness from lightlord to refill hot wallet. I dont know why once there is a complain about the hot wallet, then most people will connect it to the delayed payment of the campaign. It happens most of all the time.

And I think there are often delays in payments which are not actually a scam, but if the delay in payments is very long, I think it's natural that some of them are worried and think it's a scam and can't blame them either.
and what I know is that Bitvest is one of the most popular and old gambling platforms in this forum, and lightlord also as far as I know has a good reputation.

It's a good idea to lock this thread if the problem has been resolved or has been paid for, to avoid unwanted things.

[michellee]

Gladly, @lightlord finally pays all of their participants at the right time. Hopefully, that can satisfy their participants receiving their 10 weeks payments. Not just paid in the Bitvest, but @lightlord also finished the payment in 777coin. Bitvest and 777coin are not a scam because @lightlord still paid his participants. Maybe their participants will see a change for the campaign, whether it continues or still paused for a while.

[Bagaji]

O.P has is yet to reply or comment any of the questions which signifying that he has not serious allegation against Bitvest and even those are complaining against none payment of the signature campaign have all received their payment with bonus.

You downplay it way too much.

Bitvest has been doing this for YEARS. It's not something that has occurred just as a one-off or anything. And not to mention the hot wallet being empty issue that is more important than the signature campaign issue.

It's not a scam as of yet but it's definitely close to that territory. A business that constantly fails its clients in delivering outcomes is not a good business at the very least.

Good to know that it is only close to the territory of being a scam but not yet a scam, if that is the case why will OP raise a scam alarm as if Bitvest has already scammed him or her without providing any evidence to his claim, equally not responding to some fundamental question raise by members here.

[Silberman]

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

I have to agree with you that scam might not be the appropriate term and Bitvest won't likely be turned into that.

But if that kind of action wherein everything is always a long delay, either in their campaign or to their user's withdrawal at their site, that was already unprofessional. Delays are ok and can't be avoided but if that's always the case for long, it's not good anymore and something needs to be done.

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

This is interesting I did not know this was happening with those campaigns but as far as I know there have been delays in the past and the issue has always been resolved, so I think it is likely that this is going to be resolved soon as I doubt he is going to risk the reputation that he has created in the forum for years over something as simple as not paying the participants of their campaigns, so lets wait and see how this evolves.

[UmerIdrees]

lightlord buzzer beat the occasion as he already Paid the participants now meaning OP must lock this thread because bitvest never scammed anyone with complete proof in this forum or out.

OP wasn't even talking about the delayed campaign payments. lightlord paying the signature campaign participants has nothing to do with the thread. anyway, I also think there was no scam that happened and I still think OP was frustrated when he created this thread I should move on and find another gambling site that suits him best.

as for lightlord not being able to pay his signature campaign participants on time, (just like what LoyceV said on another thread) I think it's time for him to hire an escrow so the participants can be paid on time and not wait months before getting paid.

You are right, OP's main idea is not about the delayed payment of the campaign but it is about the empty hot wallet. It is not scam indeed, but it is all about lateness from lightlord to refill hot wallet. I dont know why once there is a complain about the hot wallet, then most people will connect it to the delayed payment of the campaign. It happens most of all the time.

Yeah, OP is worried about the empty hot wallet, chat mods irresponsible behavior , no rain and promo being offered at bitvest. I don't know why people keep on talking about the signature campaigns not being paid (Its paid now already) and therefore the focus on real issues are not addressed and they remain unfixed.
Just a suggestion that lightlord should assign a mod here who can respond to such queries, if he has no time himself.

[TheEconomists]

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

Hot wallet to be empty in other to deprived players from cashing out instantly is a very bad strategy or scamming attempt and the should be discourage since Bitvest has over the years build good reputation here in the forum. I saw in the service section where participants signature campaign payment are being delay without intentionally on a regular basis which has led some DT members to Tag the owner account.

[Cnsba]

Can anyone get a hold of lightlord I have thousands of dollars tied up in winnings I cannot withdrawal and all I am getting is silence.  It’s extremely frustrating.   I’m an honest player and finally won something substantial and it will not allow me to cash out.    Idk how he can have a sight where he simply does not reply to support tickets or to players

[johhnyUA]

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

OP, your main problem that noone here can't see any proof for you accusation. Bitvest is an old gambling site so proofs still be enough strong.
Where screenshots for mods offensive language, ah? The same with other accusations. To call service or a person a scammer is a serious charge, so you should have very strong proof for it.

And you don't show us anything. Weird enough. More like someone lost too much money (it's your own fault) and now this some kind of butthurt

[Reatim]

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

If you have enough proofs about this accusation then best to jump into this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365916.0

as other account files complaint about Bitvest and lightlord as well, maybe you can add some flavor and spice in that thread.,

But that is if you have enough Evidence , but if not then best to stay silent and talk nothing and lock this thread .

[robelneo]

He cannot sustain it he has no plan of posting his proof, he has malicious intent to give Bitvest a bad image, yes there are past and ongoing complaints from some users but they are backed by proof while you create this thread without anything on it just to create FUD, if you have an opinion about Bitvest you should post it in one of the thread here and not create a thread based on your opinion.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Wait, you created an account today and the charges to the Bitvest site are also today, did you lose gambling on the Bitvest site.

Bitvest is already in the category of the oldest gambling site on this forum, so, on what basis did Bitvest deceive you, what wallet was empty, did you lose a bet so that your money was drained in the game.

It's true OP didn't present any evidence--and he should have if posting in this section--but there's already a discussion about Bitvest's hot wallet being periodically empty and lightlord's managerial neglect of his site.  I don't know if anyone linked to that thread yet, as I haven't read this thread in its entirety yet. 

Hot wallet to be empty in other to deprived players from cashing out instantly is a very bad strategy or scamming attempt and the should be discourage since Bitvest has over the years build good reputation here in the forum.

I agree--gamblers need to be able to cash out when they want to, because what happens if they're not able to?  A lot of them will keep gambling until they lose.  I can't see into lightlord's head and don't know what he's thinking, but that would be a great way to scam if a gambling site's administrator was of the mind to do so.

Bitvest has been doing this for YEARS. It's not something that has occurred just as a one-off or anything. And not to mention the hot wallet being empty issue that is more important than the signature campaign issue.

If that's true, lightlord should be given negative trust by DT members (I've already done so for the campaign mismanagement).  Members can be trusted for years and then suddenly (or gradually) they're not.  And when they're not able to be trusted anymore, their trust page should reflect that.

In addition, I really think people should stop participating in the Bitvest campaign, not only because they're promoting a site that's nearly into scam territory but for their own sake.  Who knows when the next time lightlord is going to fall ill and be unable to make payments to his campaign participants for 10 weeks or more?

[examplens]

Bitvest has been doing this for YEARS. It's not something that has occurred just as a one-off or anything. And not to mention the hot wallet being empty issue that is more important than the signature campaign issue.

If that's true, lightlord should be given negative trust by DT members (I've already done so for the campaign mismanagement).  Members can be trusted for years and then suddenly (or gradually) they're not.  And when they're not able to be trusted anymore, their trust page should reflect that.

In addition, I really think people should stop participating in the Bitvest campaign, not only because they're promoting a site that's nearly into scam territory but for their own sake.  Who knows when the next time lightlord is going to fall ill and be unable to make payments to his campaign participants for 10 weeks or more?

I'm not sure we can label them ^{lightlord and Bitvest&co} as scammers. yes, he is often in the considerable delay of payouts, but we still don't have a clear case where someone has been harmed for money. all the complaints we have seen here, in the end, however, were resolved positively. (I’m not sure what would have happened without community pressure)

of course, the management and administration of the whole business are desperate. For example, running a low-quality level promotion through a signature campaign probably brings them more damage than benefit. I mostly don't even read posts ^{as far as I can see I am not the only one} when I see Bitvest or 777 in user signature.

I didn't even get the urge to open their site and not to register there or use them. and it is certain that I would never recommend these two casinos to anyone.
its users should definitely be alerted to a slow withdrawal or any payments from there, for it may not be the basic problem but we cannot call it a scammer until it is clearly confirmed. there is a difference here in relation to 1xbit, Adkinsbet, betking etc...

[Saint-loup]

This can explain the delay in weekly paiement for signature campaign participants [Bitvest,777Coin] but no one has confirmed that the illnes of LightLord is the reason for the hotwallet to remain empty for a long time. However, LightLord hasn't logged into the forum since September 26 while signature campaign participants have a payment delay since about 10 weeks. This should somehow rise some Flags, but far to call it as a confirmd scam.
I see more complaints about delayed withdrawals in their  campaign ANN threads. It's a little bit scary how community is waiting for a single person to come back and solve everything, i thought the casinos are running with full team and not managed by a single person .

Yes, it's really alarming, especially for those campaign participants who have yet to get their payment. I think that it's already a significant red flag, especially for signature campaign participants and gamblers, because money is involved here and there hasn't been a solution for a week. I propose looking for another worthwhile platform that has no payment troubles and will provide you with assurance and a reputable platform.

The thread starter was online two days ago and did not reply to any of the comments, this goes to show clearly how this thread was made to throw bitvest and a new account accusing a well-known gambling site of scam is quite unfortunate and should not be taken serious.

Even if the OP is a newbie, we have no right to invalidate this unless it is proven that the statement is incorrect; nonetheless, everyone has learned that there are also issues in the campaign itself, thus this gambling platform is very dangerous right now.

You seem to be more concerned by the payment of their signature campaign than the ability for gamblers to withdraw and get back their own funds, that's a little bit weird but I guess you're not a gambler but just a signature campaign poster. Then I suggest you to open a thread about the campaigns from gambling sites, it could be interesting to speak about those campaigns somewhere.

No offense for Finalshot2016 if he is only concerned about signature campaign participants. This doesn't mean that the delay of withdrawals for app users isn't important at the same level. But while the withdrawals are waiting for the empty hot-wallet to be filled, bounty participants seems to be waiting for a god miracle esecially after about ten weeks not paied and the campaign manager move the campaign to {Hold} mode, and this is a solid reason why users from bitcointalk want to first solve the issue with signature participants .
Note : Not everybody posting here is a gambler, as not everybody posting comments you may not like is a signature campaign participant willing to reach the weekly post quota. Be cool Man !

Please don't put in my mouth words I didn't say, I haven't talked about "weekly post quota" anywhere here. I just said that Xanaxass has opened this topic to talk about withdrawing issues of the platform, then I think posting messages only about their signature campaign is a little bit off-topic and it would be more relevant and interesting to open a dedicated thread about this specific issue instead of derailing this one.