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October 11, 2021, 04:05:54 PM |
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That's mean the KYC is mandatory and could happen to the gambler whatever reason when the casino wanted. I'm aware not all gambler will be asked to provide KYC, but still there's a chance and you can't prevent from it.
Anyway you need to exclude Roobet in your list since they ask Tier-1 KYC now.
You are right about Roobet(Completely forgot) which is why I have excluded it from my recommendations, but the remaining sites do not enforce mandatory KYC which is why you are wrong about that part. I have personally played in these sites from a long period and was never asked to submit my KYC at any point of time. Possibility != Mandatory.
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October 11, 2021, 04:33:45 PM |
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There is a thread about the ranking of bitcoin sportsbook. There are three A rated sportsbook: "A" rated books nitrogensports.eu A+ (2013) betcoin.ag A (2013) playbetr.com A- (2019) Thist list is created according to successfully matching these criterias: 1. Security 2. Activity on bitcointalk 3. Poster review 4. Anonymity (how often they ask you for user informations including KYC and other details) 5. Margins - How good odds they offer 6. Payout speed 7. Markets 8. Traffic 9. Variety of currencies From my personal experience I can say that Bitsler rarely asks for KYC details (except slots and live casino) but sportsbook isn't the niche where they shine. And have a look at sportsbet.io (do your research about when and why they ask for KYCs), this sportsbook is really great.
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October 11, 2021, 04:59:34 PM |
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That's mean the KYC is mandatory and could happen to the gambler whatever reason when the casino wanted. I'm aware not all gambler will be asked to provide KYC, but still there's a chance and you can't prevent from it.
Anyway you need to exclude Roobet in your list since they ask Tier-1 KYC now.
You are right about Roobet(Completely forgot) which is why I have excluded it from my recommendations, but the remaining sites do not enforce mandatory KYC which is why you are wrong about that part. I have personally played in these sites from a long period and was never asked to submit my KYC at any point of time. Possibility != Mandatory. Yes, Roobet recently made changes in their KYC after that many users claimed that this may end their future but so far they are doing good and I saw they crossed 2 billion bets in there. Meanwhile some sportbooks may ask us to comply KYC at any time when there is some suspicious rising so everyone should be ready with KYC at any time even though there is no mandatory KYC.
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October 11, 2021, 06:00:02 PM |
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They usually only require KYC when they find something suspicious or shady related to the gambler in question.
Is that saying they do selective KYC for customers depending on the different behaviour that they exhibit? I was thinking KYC should go round and not time specific or based on I'll behaviour of a particular customer. It should be a general action for all and not based on certain criteria of behaviour. How can they be sure that a suspicious action is actually what it is because sometimes a customer not knowledgeable could be making mistakes in trying to sign up or login and get to be restricted with KYC.
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October 11, 2021, 06:35:52 PM |
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Nope, you're wrong. All the casino mention "KYC", you will never find any casino without "KYC". They always mention KYC will be needed if they needed for several investigation, like multi-account, security account, prohibited country and other some issues.
For @OP, can we ask how much your transaction. If few hundred or thousand dollar, I have some experience with "Stake" around 2-3K$ can be withdraw without "KYC" and my account now platinum 1.
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October 11, 2021, 07:10:46 PM |
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They usually only require KYC when they find something suspicious or shady related to the gambler in question.
Is that saying they do selective KYC for customers depending on the different behaviour that they exhibit? I was thinking KYC should go round and not time specific or based on I'll behaviour of a particular customer. It should be a general action for all and not based on certain criteria of behaviour. How can they be sure that a suspicious action is actually what it is because sometimes a customer not knowledgeable could be making mistakes in trying to sign up or login and get to be restricted with KYC. I respect the people's right to look for the suitable platform for their needs. Some cares too much about their privacy while some others prefer anonymity over privacy, and this is how we still see users looking for sportsbooks/casinos/xchanges...) that don't ask for identity veerification. From another side, KYC is a mandatory step (usually asked by regulated casinos) for users to garantee their rights with the exchange. Imagine if you are in a casino which don't ask for KYC procedure, do you really think you can withdraw a limitless amount of money? At a certain point, you will have to prove your identity in such a way.
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October 11, 2021, 08:29:28 PM |
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Sportsbet and Stake are very good sportsbook websites and they don't ask kyc unless you win some big reward, that is standard procedure for most crypto betting websites, and they can ask that at any time. Do your own research before using any betting website, and never bet more than you are willing to use.
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October 11, 2021, 08:56:07 PM |
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Sportsbet and Stake are very good sportsbook websites and they don't ask kyc unless you win some big reward, that is standard procedure for most crypto betting websites, and they can ask that at any time. Do your own research before using any betting website, and never bet more than you are willing to use.
Well good advice is also to read the TOS before using the casino to know their dos and don't because what if you have been won a large amount then you cant withdraw it without having KYC verification. It becomes worthless if there is someone who will benefit from your reward, not you yourself. Even though most casinos now are implemented KYC but there are some places in gambling that did not have regulations. You can research here about their feedback just use perhaps the camera on the wall.
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October 11, 2021, 09:37:23 PM |
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Sportsbet and Stake are very good sportsbook websites and they don't ask kyc unless you win some big reward, that is standard procedure for most crypto betting websites, and they can ask that at any time. Do your own research before using any betting website, and never bet more than you are willing to use.
Well good advice is also to read the TOS before using the casino to know their dos and don't because what if you have been won a large amount then you cant withdraw it without having KYC verification. It becomes worthless if there is someone who will benefit from your reward, not you yourself. Even though most casinos now are implemented KYC but there are some places in gambling that did not have regulations. You can research here about their feedback just use perhaps the camera on the wall. most licensed casinos will ask kyc if somehow you are suspected to violate their ToS. this is the reason why it is always advisable to read the terms of the site, particularly, if you are sending good amount of money to them. a lot of the allegations towards casinos were owed to the negligence of the player himself. if you don't want your funds to get caught in the middle, then, would be great if you will browse their ToS especially those sections that you think may possibly affect your funds. better be safe than sorry at the end, right?
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October 11, 2021, 09:41:40 PM |
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I have been searching for a sportsbook without KYC that have a fairly good reputation. And with fairly good I simply mean that they don't scam and steal you money.
A lot of options but the top choices are Sportsbook and Stake. I don't think if a gambling site that ask for a KYC is a scam, it will still depend on a project and you really have to do your own analysis before you start gambling. If you are just into a sportsbook you can try to use Stake, it offers a good platform that can satisfy your needs. Don't forget to read the TOS so you wont experience any problem later on.
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October 11, 2021, 09:53:34 PM |
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Well, these days it's hard to find any casino that doesn't ask you to do KYC. These are some basic practices to curb AML and several issues related to it.
But if I'm not mistaken bitsler, it was not necessary to perform KYC, but I believe that for some time now, it will be necessary to perform this type of procedure.
If I'm not mistaken, Wolf.bet and Sportsbet.io don't ask for KYC
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October 11, 2021, 11:38:39 PM |
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I have been searching for a sportsbook without KYC that have a fairly good reputation. And with fairly good I simply mean that they don't scam and steal you money.
Stake, Betfury, Wolf... just a few good sportsbooks that have a good reputation, you don't need KYC, easy and simple registration, instant deposits, and withdraws! Each of them has its own ANN thread here on the forum, you can check them by yourself and make your own conclusions! I am active on all of them, and I didn't have any problems with any of them! That speaks for itself, right? Of course, before you choose do your own research! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Lets put some link with those mentions above. https://stake.com/https://betfury.io/https://wolf.bet/sportshttps://www.playbetr.com/sportsI have added up Playbetr too which ive been using this one for a while and experience is just like the same with others.
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Most of the casinos mentioned in the previous posts have KYC requirements ...but they do not apply them, until something happens that give them the reason to ask for it. A lot of professional Sport gamblers want to stay anonymous at the different sites, because they want to open multiple accounts. The reason for this is simple... when you win too much, your account gets flagged and then it gets limited. So they simply open up another account somewhere else and they can continue gambling on a unrestricted account. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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if you are low stake gambler and loose more than you win, no KYC needed at most of the mentioned sites
If you bet higher stakes or lower leagues most of the time and you are winning gambler, then it could be possible that KYC is needed. I would say all about 1K win, leads to KYC process mostly
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stake sportsbet.io betcoin.ag nitrobetting
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i do not have experience with mentioned wolf.bet cause i dont like the live offer so far.
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I use Stake.com and Wolfbet and Also Nitrogen sports (but i'm afraid nitrogen's status now are questionable so be aware of that.) Sportsbet and Stake are very good sportsbook websites and they don't ask kyc unless you win some big reward, that is standard procedure for most crypto betting websites, and they can ask that at any time. Do your own research before using any betting website, and never bet more than you are willing to use.
or unless your account's status is questionable then KYC will be required then and i believe this is normal way in all of casino operated online .
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I have been searching for a sportsbook without KYC that have a fairly good reputation. And with fairly good I simply mean that they don't scam and steal you money.
A lot of options but the top choices are Sportsbook and Stake. I don't think if a gambling site that ask for a KYC is a scam, it will still depend on a project and you really have to do your own analysis before you start gambling. If you are just into a sportsbook you can try to use Stake, it offers a good platform that can satisfy your needs. Don't forget to read the TOS so you wont experience any problem later on. Do you mean to say Sportsbet? @OP: look at this topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion. It is a compilation of sportsbooks and you can find some sportsbooks that you can choose yourself based on your own preference. Coming up to KYC, I believe most sportsbook has their own rule about it. Most of them may ask you to do KYC when they think there is something fishy with your account. So kindly read the whole terms of any site before you decide to play.
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I have been searching for a sportsbook without KYC that have a fairly good reputation. And with fairly good I simply mean that they don't scam and steal you money.
I don't know about sportbooks without kyc. KYC can protect you as well as hurt you, so its kind of a double edged sword. I mean if something goes wrong and you lose all your money to a scam at least you will have proof it was your money and you might have some legal leverage to get it back. Without kyc its probable you will get tricked no matter how good their reputation is... ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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I have been searching for a sportsbook without KYC that have a fairly good reputation. And with fairly good I simply mean that they don't scam and steal you money.
[...] I don't think if a gambling site that ask for a KYC is a scam, it will still depend on a project and you really have to do your own analysis before you start gambling. It doesn't always mean to be totally scam, sometimes website/service randomly scam by different reasons and those users were totally dismayed despite of having good reviews or whatnot, that's why it's always good to use and provide your kyc docs to a reputed gambling website than to different gambling that has history of scamming some of its users.
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I have been searching for a sportsbook without KYC that have a fairly good reputation. And with fairly good I simply mean that they don't scam and steal you money.
[...] I don't think if a gambling site that ask for a KYC is a scam, it will still depend on a project and you really have to do your own analysis before you start gambling. It doesn't always mean to be totally scam, sometimes website/service randomly scam by different reasons and those users were totally dismayed despite of having good reviews or whatnot, that's why it's always good to use and provide your kyc docs to a reputed gambling website than to different gambling that has history of scamming some of its users. Its hard when a certain bookie or site/service is just new and asking out directly that KYC which you couldnt tell if they are legit or not because when people do have some bad experiences then they will surely shared it up publicly to create awareness and if a site tends out to scam on the first place then they wouldnt really make it too obvious on early phase thats why i dont really believe much on such condition.KYC doesnt automatically means scam and this is usually can be found out on fiat bookies but most of bookies on this market doesnt really ask out. I do play on Stake and Sporstbet.
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and Also Nitrogen sports (but i'm afraid nitrogen's status now are questionable so be aware of that.)
Nitrogensports is in an okay position atm but the only downside is that sometimes it'll require a scam accusation thread for an issue to get fixed. Its hard when a certain bookie or site/service is just new and asking out directly that KYC which you couldnt tell if they are legit or not because when people do have some bad experiences then they will surely shared it up publicly to create awareness and if a site tends out to scam on the first place then they wouldnt really make it too obvious on early phase thats why i dont really believe much on such condition.
The same can be said on any gambling site that's new so we usually give these sites some time to prove their reputation and services. I also don't like KYC since casinos and sportsbooks could simply freeze your account at anytime.
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