There isn’t a poker room you could win at ?

[Betwrong]

Regarding online poker schools, I just have an opinion that is different to yours. I think most of them are harmful, because they are teaching the old style that no longer works. Poker is a living thing, and it is evolving, it is not static. For example, look at how Daniel Negreanu was playing 10 years ago, and what he was teaching at the time, and how he plays today. Indeed he's a genius, because he has found the strength to abandon his old style and adapt to the new reality. ... Well, that's just my opinion, of course, but if it means something to you, I am a 2 times winner of the Bitcointalk Poker Series. (I know bragging is wrong, but I hope it's relevant, just this once. )

Just interesting for me. I`m playing soccer for more then 15 years and i see how it changes. I see how change boots, ball, training ground. It is the one side. On the other side - team work between players in different situations. And the rules changes too.
But when you playing poker - you playing with the same rules and same cards. Can it be so, that the old strategy will be better then new? Even because the new player don`t know about it?

Yes, anything can happen, because luck is a factor in the game of poker. An absolute newbie can beat the best poker player in the world in one game or even more. But the more games played, the more obvious the importance of experience and skill, so a weak player, or someone using an outdated strategy, doesn't stand a chance in the long run.

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[mak013]

Regarding online poker schools, I just have an opinion that is different to yours. I think most of them are harmful, because they are teaching the old style that no longer works. Poker is a living thing, and it is evolving, it is not static. For example, look at how Daniel Negreanu was playing 10 years ago, and what he was teaching at the time, and how he plays today. Indeed he's a genius, because he has found the strength to abandon his old style and adapt to the new reality. ... Well, that's just my opinion, of course, but if it means something to you, I am a 2 times winner of the Bitcointalk Poker Series. (I know bragging is wrong, but I hope it's relevant, just this once. )

Just interesting for me. I`m playing soccer for more then 15 years and i see how it changes. I see how change boots, ball, training ground. It is the one side. On the other side - team work between players in different situations. And the rules changes too.
But when you playing poker - you playing with the same rules and same cards. Can it be so, that the old strategy will be better then new? Even because the new player don`t know about it?

Yes, anything can happen, because luck is a factor in the game of poker. An absolute newbie can beat the best poker player in the world in one game or even more. But the more games played, the more obvious the importance of experience and skill, so a weak player, or someone using an outdated strategy, doesn't stand a chance in the long run.

Surely, we spoke about random And what about tournament? Old school player have a strategy, he knows the game, he can bluff. As for me - if he catch some luck, his chances to win are enough high.
But i meant another thing. What changes in the strategy if nothing changes technically? For example: I`ve read a book about 10 years ago. There was a base strategy from the start of the game: depending on the seat at the table and starting cards the player have a decision to raise, to check, or to drop his cards. Is it constant or element of changing strategy?

[AicecreaME]

I mean I do win against players, I can do it for a week, a month and even a year but I always lose to the house.

The rake and house wins, it’s like impossible to beat the house...

You are probably already aware that poker is a super intense game online, you really are playing against the best in the world and the type of players who would seek out a poker game in Bitcoin are going to generally be very high level players. If you do win against other players like you suggest, simply stick with the sites that you're already winning at - take those earnings and convert them into Bitcoin if your ultimate goal is to acquire more. If you're unable to beat the house as you say, then you simply are not an effective player and should probably seek out a different way to make money. Your earnings will never go up unless you can beat that cut of commission they take from each hand.

Exactly.

That's the very simplest way to make profits, I don't know why OP is doing something wrong and won't stop complaining about it even though he knows the solution for his problem, unless he is just all talk. Poker is very complicated game, if you're good at it doesn't mean no one can beat you, actually there's a lot of professional poker players around the globe that also play in online gambling that could never be known since we are talking about cryptocurrency.

[Betwrong]

Regarding online poker schools, I just have an opinion that is different to yours. I think most of them are harmful, because they are teaching the old style that no longer works. Poker is a living thing, and it is evolving, it is not static. For example, look at how Daniel Negreanu was playing 10 years ago, and what he was teaching at the time, and how he plays today. Indeed he's a genius, because he has found the strength to abandon his old style and adapt to the new reality. ... Well, that's just my opinion, of course, but if it means something to you, I am a 2 times winner of the Bitcointalk Poker Series. (I know bragging is wrong, but I hope it's relevant, just this once. )

Just interesting for me. I`m playing soccer for more then 15 years and i see how it changes. I see how change boots, ball, training ground. It is the one side. On the other side - team work between players in different situations. And the rules changes too.
But when you playing poker - you playing with the same rules and same cards. Can it be so, that the old strategy will be better then new? Even because the new player don`t know about it?

Yes, anything can happen, because luck is a factor in the game of poker. An absolute newbie can beat the best poker player in the world in one game or even more. But the more games played, the more obvious the importance of experience and skill, so a weak player, or someone using an outdated strategy, doesn't stand a chance in the long run.

Surely, we spoke about random And what about tournament? Old school player have a strategy, he knows the game, he can bluff. As for me - if he catch some luck, his chances to win are enough high.
But i meant another thing. What changes in the strategy if nothing changes technically? For example: I`ve read a book about 10 years ago. There was a base strategy from the start of the game: depending on the seat at the table and starting cards the player have a decision to raise, to check, or to drop his cards. Is it constant or element of changing strategy?

It's not constant, that's what I'm trying to say. In the old days, like 5-6 years ago and more, the best players were much more bluff oriented than they are today. It was considered that a good player could play(and win) with any pocket cards. First you wait for a miracle, so that your 67s makes you holding a straight flush, or quads, or full house. Then if it doesn't happen, you bluff the hell out of it and grab the pot.



^^^This was their motto. And they were right at the time. Some people won millions of dollars following this amazing strategy. But the thing is that it's not working anymore.

[mak013]

It's not constant, that's what I'm trying to say. In the old days, like 5-6 years ago and more, the best players were much more bluff oriented than they are today. It was considered that a good player could play(and win) with any pocket cards. First you wait for a miracle, so that your 67s makes you holding a straight flush, or quads, or full house. Then if it doesn't happen, you bluff the hell out of it and grab the pot.



^^^This was their motto. And they were right at the time. Some people won millions of dollars following this amazing strategy. But the thing is that it's not working anymore.

Thx That`s what i wanted to understand. Looks like that this is a world trend - people become more practical, strategies becomes more defensive. In such a way bluff percentage decreases and pocket cards becomes the one of most important thing in the game. Bluff ceases to be the decisive tool, it just helps sometimes.

[AicecreaME]

Regarding online poker schools, I just have an opinion that is different to yours. I think most of them are harmful, because they are teaching the old style that no longer works. Poker is a living thing, and it is evolving, it is not static. For example, look at how Daniel Negreanu was playing 10 years ago, and what he was teaching at the time, and how he plays today. Indeed he's a genius, because he has found the strength to abandon his old style and adapt to the new reality. ... Well, that's just my opinion, of course, but if it means something to you, I am a 2 times winner of the Bitcointalk Poker Series. (I know bragging is wrong, but I hope it's relevant, just this once. )

Just interesting for me. I`m playing soccer for more then 15 years and i see how it changes. I see how change boots, ball, training ground. It is the one side. On the other side - team work between players in different situations. And the rules changes too.
But when you playing poker - you playing with the same rules and same cards. Can it be so, that the old strategy will be better then new? Even because the new player don`t know about it?

Yes, anything can happen, because luck is a factor in the game of poker. An absolute newbie can beat the best poker player in the world in one game or even more. But the more games played, the more obvious the importance of experience and skill, so a weak player, or someone using an outdated strategy, doesn't stand a chance in the long run.

For sure newbies will always lose in bluffing, because newbies does have a weak resolve to fight for their cards, so the only option they have is to fold. But in the long run, as they are making experience, they will also start to make profits using their own strategy against other professional players. Poker is like chess, it's a mind game and the smart one will always win.

[mak013]

Yes, anything can happen, because luck is a factor in the game of poker. An absolute newbie can beat the best poker player in the world in one game or even more. But the more games played, the more obvious the importance of experience and skill, so a weak player, or someone using an outdated strategy, doesn't stand a chance in the long run.

For sure newbies will always lose in bluffing, because newbies does have a weak resolve to fight for their cards, so the only option they have is to fold. But in the long run, as they are making experience, they will also start to make profits using their own strategy against other professional players. Poker is like chess, it's a mind game and the smart one will always win.

The professional players reading the same books, so they play one of the strategies that another professional players know. And noone no how will play newbie. This is his only weapon, except luck. And when newbie get skill he ceases to be a newbie, but becomes play one of the known strategies with more skilled players.

[Betwrong]

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Thx That`s what i wanted to understand. Looks like that this is a world trend - people become more practical, strategies becomes more defensive. In such a way bluff percentage decreases and pocket cards becomes the one of most important thing in the game. Bluff ceases to be the decisive tool, it just helps sometimes.

Well, it's still poker, so you can't win without bluffing occasionally, but you are right, good players are doing it less often these days.

~ Poker is like chess, it's a mind game and the smart one will always win.

I don't think poker is like chess. They are very different games, actually. Just read our discussion with @mak013 above, and then come back here.

But if you don't have time for that, I'll tell you this: chess is a game of complete information, meaning that luck plays zero part in it. It is determined how to play in this or that situation, you just have to know it. Memorize all the games played during the past 100 years by the best chess players, and you are guaranteed to win most of the time. But you can't do that trick with poker.