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January 26, 2022, 02:11:44 AM
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If a gambler violates the rules, this is not a weapon, this is the way to clarify and to update data about the user and to see whether he/she breaks the rules or not. The true weapon is withdrawal limitations. This is how a casino can avoid a big earthquake that a single withdrawal of a jackpot can make, for example.
Its a weapon too because if the gambler fails to produce what the site is asking for then he will lose the winning rewards but if the site actually wanted to stop the user from restricted country they can do at the time of registration itself right? Not every casinos are doing it but we had seen lot of such cases in the scam accusation section in the last few years.

Bottomline, it is still on the player's responsibility to check if the site is allowing his country of residence to play on the site. This is the first step that he needs to clarify because it is his own funds at stake here. So he should make sure that he is allowed to play, and if using VPN, he also needs to confirm it from the site itself. Because most casinos are not allowing the use of VPN. If you failed to verify this first step, then, for me, it is the player's fault if he reached to the point that he got winnings and couldn't withdraw. As a player, you have your responsibilities also as most casinos will try to attract as much players as they can.
Still people do forces out to play on a site which does restrict out but still trying to force out on playing via the use of VPN and on the times that they had been caught then its surely a problem.
Thats why as a user then you should know the risk in regards into your actions that you would make and speaking with best site for gambling then there are lots of choices
for you to choose from and if you do see that there is some restriction then its just common sense that you would really be finding another one but if you do really forces on
then its your choice.
Indeed. Why forcing yourself to a casino where your country is restricted if there are other casinos available where you can gamble. Sometimes its because of our choices on why we are putting ourselves in a bad situation. So its best to play on casino that you think you wont get any problem later on. It should be trusted by many gamblers and established with good reputation plus it has your preffered games. Nevertheless, its a must to read the TOS to become aware of what to avoid.

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January 26, 2022, 02:59:09 AM
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If a gambler violates the rules, this is not a weapon, this is the way to clarify and to update data about the user and to see whether he/she breaks the rules or not. The true weapon is withdrawal limitations. This is how a casino can avoid a big earthquake that a single withdrawal of a jackpot can make, for example.
Its a weapon too because if the gambler fails to produce what the site is asking for then he will lose the winning rewards but if the site actually wanted to stop the user from restricted country they can do at the time of registration itself right? Not every casinos are doing it but we had seen lot of such cases in the scam accusation section in the last few years.

Bottomline, it is still on the player's responsibility to check if the site is allowing his country of residence to play on the site. This is the first step that he needs to clarify because it is his own funds at stake here. So he should make sure that he is allowed to play, and if using VPN, he also needs to confirm it from the site itself. Because most casinos are not allowing the use of VPN. If you failed to verify this first step, then, for me, it is the player's fault if he reached to the point that he got winnings and couldn't withdraw. As a player, you have your responsibilities also as most casinos will try to attract as much players as they can.
I don't blame a casino of they are doing this because they have the right to do and yhe sole responsibility is on the user, and you know most casinos are not restricting the usage of VPN because they allow people also to have privacy but if someone is abusing the VPN usage when they are playing from a country where gambling is restricted by their laws has to face the consequences.

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January 26, 2022, 08:45:26 AM
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Still people do forces out to play on a site which does restrict out but still trying to force out on playing via the use of VPN and on the times that they had been caught then its surely a problem.
Thats why as a user then you should know the risk in regards into your actions that you would make and speaking with best site for gambling then there are lots of choices
for you to choose from and if you do see that there is some restriction then its just common sense that you would really be finding another one but if you do really forces on
then its your choice.
Indeed. Why forcing yourself to a casino where your country is restricted if there are other casinos available where you can gamble. Sometimes its because of our choices on why we are putting ourselves in a bad situation. So its best to play on casino that you think you wont get any problem later on. It should be trusted by many gamblers and established with good reputation plus it has your preffered games. Nevertheless, its a must to read the TOS to become aware of what to avoid.
I guess that is because some gamblers can win money from the games, so they get tempted and want to try their luck.
They forget that their experience will not be the same as others, so they force themselves to play in a casino where their country is prohibited.
Sometimes, we need to dig deeper to find the right casinos that will not give us problems in the future, whether from other people's experience or our experience trying one by one of the sites.
So choosing the casino is actually not difficult if we want to search for that and once we find it, we do not have to search for the other unless we are curious and want to have the other favorite casinos.

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January 26, 2022, 09:30:29 AM
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Sometimes, we need to dig deeper to find the right casinos that will not give us problems in the future, whether from other people's experience or our experience trying one by one of the sites.
So choosing the casino is actually not difficult if we want to search for that and once we find it, we do not have to search for the other unless we are curious and want to have the other favorite casinos.
I cannot agree that it is so easy to find a suitable casino for you in the country where you live and, accordingly, the casino is allowed in this country.  From my own experience, I know that even the best casino that you use for a long time and in which everything suits you can unexpectedly present an unexpected surprise.  And this may not be caused by the casino developers themselves, but, for example, by their obligations to comply with the requirements of regulators.  And then you may well face difficulties when withdrawing your winnings or even simply when withdrawing your deposit.  And of course it causes irritation and negativity.

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January 26, 2022, 10:25:40 AM
 #165

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Sometimes, we need to dig deeper to find the right casinos that will not give us problems in the future, whether from other people's experience or our experience trying one by one of the sites.
So choosing the casino is actually not difficult if we want to search for that and once we find it, we do not have to search for the other unless we are curious and want to have the other favorite casinos.
I cannot agree that it is so easy to find a suitable casino for you in the country where you live and, accordingly, the casino is allowed in this country.  From my own experience, I know that even the best casino that you use for a long time and in which everything suits you can unexpectedly present an unexpected surprise.  And this may not be caused by the casino developers themselves, but, for example, by their obligations to comply with the requirements of regulators.  And then you may well face difficulties when withdrawing your winnings or even simply when withdrawing your deposit.  And of course it causes irritation and negativity.
If we talk about the land-based casino, that could be an unpredicted experience that you can get.
If we talk about online casinos, especially crypto gambling sites, that will be different because the casino may not be related to any jurisdiction from your country.
That is why I said that we could search for the right casino from other people's experience here or we can search by ourselves so once we get the best that will suit us, we do not have to move to the other sites because they can not always suit what we want.
That is what I get so far when I search for the online casino because I do not play on the land-based casino, especially in this pandemic.
Besides that, when we visit one or two casinos and they do not block our access, we can play on those casinos but you need to know if gambling is prohibited or allowed in your country because I am sure you do not want to get into trouble.

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January 26, 2022, 10:42:05 AM
 #166

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If a gambler violates the rules, this is not a weapon, this is the way to clarify and to update data about the user and to see whether he/she breaks the rules or not. The true weapon is withdrawal limitations. This is how a casino can avoid a big earthquake that a single withdrawal of a jackpot can make, for example.
Its a weapon too because if the gambler fails to produce what the site is asking for then he will lose the winning rewards but if the site actually wanted to stop the user from restricted country they can do at the time of registration itself right? Not every casinos are doing it but we had seen lot of such cases in the scam accusation section in the last few years.

Bottomline, it is still on the player's responsibility to check if the site is allowing his country of residence to play on the site. This is the first step that he needs to clarify because it is his own funds at stake here. So he should make sure that he is allowed to play, and if using VPN, he also needs to confirm it from the site itself. Because most casinos are not allowing the use of VPN. If you failed to verify this first step, then, for me, it is the player's fault if he reached to the point that he got winnings and couldn't withdraw. As a player, you have your responsibilities also as most casinos will try to attract as much players as they can.
everything is our responsibility because it is our money and time that will be at risk here , we must understand the  obligation of each for their gambling activities . I have learn my lessons from the past and i don't wanna have trouble again in my gambling playing.

And also VPN using is now allowed in other casino so this must be also our concern and understanding .

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January 26, 2022, 11:00:57 AM
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Besides that, when we visit one or two casinos and they do not block our access, we can play on those casinos but you need to know if gambling is prohibited or allowed in your country because I am sure you do not want to get into trouble.
Well, of course, if you successfully play in one or another online casino and there are no problems with withdrawing funds to your account, then everything is in order and it is worth continuing.
But I say that you should always be prepared for the fact that you will suddenly be required to provide some kind of confirmation of identity verification. And I suspect that many casinos can even save a little if the player for some reason cannot provide them with proof of his identity. And the funds will be frozen, and after some time they will be debited to the casino account from you account.
Agree - this is the logical behavior of the casino in this case. But also a small profit

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January 26, 2022, 11:56:20 AM
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If a gambler violates the rules, this is not a weapon, this is the way to clarify and to update data about the user and to see whether he/she breaks the rules or not. The true weapon is withdrawal limitations. This is how a casino can avoid a big earthquake that a single withdrawal of a jackpot can make, for example.
Its a weapon too because if the gambler fails to produce what the site is asking for then he will lose the winning rewards but if the site actually wanted to stop the user from restricted country they can do at the time of registration itself right? Not every casinos are doing it but we had seen lot of such cases in the scam accusation section in the last few years.

Bottomline, it is still on the player's responsibility to check if the site is allowing his country of residence to play on the site. This is the first step that he needs to clarify because it is his own funds at stake here. So he should make sure that he is allowed to play, and if using VPN, he also needs to confirm it from the site itself. Because most casinos are not allowing the use of VPN. If you failed to verify this first step, then, for me, it is the player's fault if he reached to the point that he got winnings and couldn't withdraw. As a player, you have your responsibilities also as most casinos will try to attract as much players as they can.

That's the point. You can't blame a casino but yourself for your own mistakes. If you don't read the T&Cs, you can't blame anyone but yourself too.
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January 27, 2022, 05:02:39 AM
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Besides that, when we visit one or two casinos and they do not block our access, we can play on those casinos but you need to know if gambling is prohibited or allowed in your country because I am sure you do not want to get into trouble.
Well, of course, if you successfully play in one or another online casino and there are no problems with withdrawing funds to your account, then everything is in order and it is worth continuing.
But I say that you should always be prepared for the fact that you will suddenly be required to provide some kind of confirmation of identity verification. And I suspect that many casinos can even save a little if the player for some reason cannot provide them with proof of his identity. And the funds will be frozen, and after some time they will be debited to the casino account from you account.
Agree - this is the logical behavior of the casino in this case. But also a small profit
Yes, I agree with you that we should be prepared for anything because sometimes the casino can ask for identity verification for all of their members.
So that is why we do not have to keep a big balance on our account to avoid them locking our account without notice.
When the player can not identify their account by verification, the casino can easily take over the balance and we will lose all of the money that we have in our account.
Hopefully, that will not happen to us in the future but we must still prepare.

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January 27, 2022, 05:17:07 AM
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Besides that, when we visit one or two casinos and they do not block our access, we can play on those casinos but you need to know if gambling is prohibited or allowed in your country because I am sure you do not want to get into trouble.
Well, of course, if you successfully play in one or another online casino and there are no problems with withdrawing funds to your account, then everything is in order and it is worth continuing.
But I say that you should always be prepared for the fact that you will suddenly be required to provide some kind of confirmation of identity verification. And I suspect that many casinos can even save a little if the player for some reason cannot provide them with proof of his identity. And the funds will be frozen, and after some time they will be debited to the casino account from you account.
Agree - this is the logical behavior of the casino in this case. But also a small profit
Yes, I agree with you that we should be prepared for anything because sometimes the casino can ask for identity verification for all of their members.
So that is why we do not have to keep a big balance on our account to avoid them locking our account without notice.
When the player can not identify their account by verification, the casino can easily take over the balance and we will lose all of the money that we have in our account.
Hopefully, that will not happen to us in the future but we must still prepare.

Most of the casinos do not ask for KYC and they have not made them mandatory. But if we see their terms and conditions, they write that in case of any suspicious activity, they can demand for KYC. I don't understand what could be the 'Suspicious' activity. If you won bog amount of money, most casino treat this as a suspicious activity. Sad 
As long as you are losing a big amount, there is nothing suspicious about it but if you win big amounts, all of sudden your account becomes suspicious.
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January 27, 2022, 06:33:07 AM
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If a gambler violates the rules, this is not a weapon, this is the way to clarify and to update data about the user and to see whether he/she breaks the rules or not. The true weapon is withdrawal limitations. This is how a casino can avoid a big earthquake that a single withdrawal of a jackpot can make, for example.
Its a weapon too because if the gambler fails to produce what the site is asking for then he will lose the winning rewards but if the site actually wanted to stop the user from restricted country they can do at the time of registration itself right? Not every casinos are doing it but we had seen lot of such cases in the scam accusation section in the last few years.

Bottomline, it is still on the player's responsibility to check if the site is allowing his country of residence to play on the site. This is the first step that he needs to clarify because it is his own funds at stake here. So he should make sure that he is allowed to play, and if using VPN, he also needs to confirm it from the site itself. Because most casinos are not allowing the use of VPN. If you failed to verify this first step, then, for me, it is the player's fault if he reached to the point that he got winnings and couldn't withdraw. As a player, you have your responsibilities also as most casinos will try to attract as much players as they can.

That's the point. You can't blame a casino but yourself for your own mistakes. If you don't read the T&Cs, you can't blame anyone but yourself too.
Don't rely on that T&C because a scam casino can simply change the rules when you win big , but yes we can always take charge of knowing the  rules because this can be use against us lol.

we are the one who is responsible in everything as long as about gambling , we cannot Blame anyone.

and also prevent your self from dealing in gambling if you are not that deeply knowledgeable about this because this can ruin everything in you.

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Don't rely on that T&C because a scam casino can simply change the rules when you win big , but yes we can always take charge of knowing the  rules because this can be use against us lol.

T&C is vital when you want to play safely to a casino since its the rules that needs to be follow. There's no way a legit a casino will modify there T&C when player won big amount since it might cause it might ruined there license.

You should avoid shady casino at the first place and stop ticking that agree box during registration period for acknowledgement notice.

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January 27, 2022, 11:19:18 AM
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Don't rely on that T&C because a scam casino can simply change the rules when you win big , but yes we can always take charge of knowing the  rules because this can be use against us lol.
T&C is vital when you want to play safely to a casino since its the rules that needs to be follow. There's no way a legit a casino will modify there T&C when player won big amount since it might cause it might ruined there license.

You should avoid shady casino at the first place and stop ticking that agree box during registration period for acknowledgement notice.
Indeed. That is prevention from us by playing in a scam casino because they can easily change the T&C. A legit casino will use their T&C and if they want to change the T&C, they will announce that on their homepage and send an email to all of their members. Reading the T&C can help us know their rules so we do not have to break them. Besides that, the reputable casino will not try to scam their members because of small money because losing the customer means losing the profit for the casino.



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January 27, 2022, 11:29:48 AM
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Most of the casinos do not ask for KYC and they have not made them mandatory. But if we see their terms and conditions, they write that in case of any suspicious activity, they can demand for KYC. I don't understand what could be the 'Suspicious' activity. If you won bog amount of money, most casino treat this as a suspicious activity. Sad 
As long as you are losing a big amount, there is nothing suspicious about it but if you win big amounts, all of sudden your account becomes suspicious.

Can you give a specific example which casino do such thing where player win huge amount then the casino considere it as suspicious activity? I do not think all casinos do such thing, so do not generalize it like all casinos around are the same. There must be at least a valid reason (not based on the won amount only). Afaik suspicious activity is not that simple, it can be about the whole activity of the player based on the deposit activity, betting activity/pattern, and some other things.
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Most of the casinos do not ask for KYC and they have not made them mandatory. But if we see their terms and conditions, they write that in case of any suspicious activity, they can demand for KYC. I don't understand what could be the 'Suspicious' activity. If you won bog amount of money, most casino treat this as a suspicious activity. Sad 
As long as you are losing a big amount, there is nothing suspicious about it but if you win big amounts, all of sudden your account becomes suspicious.

Can you give a specific example which casino do such thing where player win huge amount then the casino considere it as suspicious activity? I do not think all casinos do such thing, so do not generalize it like all casinos around are the same. There must be at least a valid reason (not based on the won amount only). Afaik suspicious activity is not that simple, it can be about the whole activity of the player based on the deposit activity, betting activity/pattern, and some other things.

A huge winning is always a flag for a casino to check you. That's not only because they want to cancel your winnings, but because big wins mean fewer earnings for them. It makes sense, I think and when you make a big win, a casino checks if you have broken rules. If not, they will let you go with the money. Otherwise, they will leave you with your deposit funds and block your account.
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January 28, 2022, 06:06:20 AM
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Most of the casinos do not ask for KYC and they have not made them mandatory. But if we see their terms and conditions, they write that in case of any suspicious activity, they can demand for KYC. I don't understand what could be the 'Suspicious' activity. If you won bog amount of money, most casino treat this as a suspicious activity. Sad 
As long as you are losing a big amount, there is nothing suspicious about it but if you win big amounts, all of sudden your account becomes suspicious.
The casino can say anything related to the "Suspicious" activity but we are not sure about that but we are trying not to make them suspicious by always following their rules.
The reputable and reliable casino will not ask too much if we win a big amount of money, especially if we do not do something "Suspicious" and allow us to send the money.
The casino will always monitor their member's activity to know that those gamblers who want to withdraw big money do not do anything suspicious.
So it is clear that you should not play on the casinos that do not have good reputations to avoid that problem.

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January 28, 2022, 12:14:12 PM
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Most of the casinos do not ask for KYC and they have not made them mandatory. But if we see their terms and conditions, they write that in case of any suspicious activity, they can demand for KYC. I don't understand what could be the 'Suspicious' activity. If you won bog amount of money, most casino treat this as a suspicious activity. Sad 
As long as you are losing a big amount, there is nothing suspicious about it but if you win big amounts, all of sudden your account becomes suspicious.
The casino can say anything related to the "Suspicious" activity but we are not sure about that but we are trying not to make them suspicious by always following their rules.
The reputable and reliable casino will not ask too much if we win a big amount of money, especially if we do not do something "Suspicious" and allow us to send the money.
The casino will always monitor their member's activity to know that those gamblers who want to withdraw big money do not do anything suspicious.
So it is clear that you should not play on the casinos that do not have good reputations to avoid that problem.

The problem is that you never know, which type of activities may be considered as Suspicious by a particular casino. Big wins I think are always treated by any casino as the case for additional check.
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Terms and conditions are the most interesting parts of the casino. But do not forget that most licensed casinos are obligated to list several rules in their TCs but not necessarily enforce them.

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If you are a high value bettor, you should go for Sportsbet or stake as I have heard very less complains about these sites. Or you can diversify your bankroll and use parts on different gambling websites, you will have varied odds but the variations (spreads) will not be very high. You can bet that way to save yourself from getting your money blocked on one site, and as the saying goes, never put all your eggs into one basket
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January 28, 2022, 05:44:58 PM
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The problem is that you never know, which type of activities may be considered as Suspicious by a particular casino. Big wins I think are always treated by any casino as the case for additional check.
What is considered to be big depends on the casino itself, if we are talking about a casino that has been around for a very long time then most likely you can win thousands of dollars and still not go through any kind of additional check.

Still as long as the casino has a good reputation and you are following their TOS then you have nothing to worry about, the problem is that many times people select the casino in which they want to gamble based on the bonuses they will get and not on their reputation, causing them to play in casinos with dubious reputations that will do everything they can to avoid paying their customers.
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