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December 04, 2022, 06:13:42 PM
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We started to work on Qogecoin 2.0
Qogecoin 2.0 will be a completely new Layer 1 chain and quantum-safe from block 0.
We will deprecate the Bitcoin Codebase, Qogecoin 2.0 will be based on Ethereum.
It will be 100% EVM compatible, so you can build amazing projects with smart contracts on it.
When we are done with development, you can swap your Qogecoin 1.0 for Qogecoin 2.0.
It will be also based on POW.
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January 13, 2023, 07:12:51 PM
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Project is still alive?
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January 15, 2023, 01:07:41 PM
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Project is still alive?

I don't know,
TBH i keep mining because i have some hope on this. let's see

BTC: 1NCJRUoVo1L1SV4kJDk5e9Ai67ZufEbFnw
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January 19, 2023, 10:25:01 AM
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How will the future of Qogecoin look? It will be Quantum Safe!
We wrote a mini wallet with quantum-safe signatures. It is highly beta, we will use FALCON Round 3 in production,
but liboqs supports only the round 2 standard right now.


https://github.com/eomii/toolbox
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February 12, 2023, 04:42:02 PM
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What post quantum cryptography do you plan to implement ?
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March 05, 2023, 01:57:02 PM
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Is this coin a scam and currently premine dumping takes place ? I guess so...
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March 06, 2023, 04:59:04 PM
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Is this coin a scam and currently premine dumping takes place ? I guess so...

Its a meme thing carved out of pure compassion toward humans largely lost around coinmarketcap charts and rankings. No one knows why dipshits make meme coins in coin constructor in copious amounts. Not even them. I guess the reason is that crypto collective anticipates a looming bull market starting just in days or maybe weeks, with its sweeping effect on every crypto thing out there.
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September 07, 2023, 03:54:14 PM
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Looks like another dead topic for a dead coin on a dead forum. Grin

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April 13, 2024, 04:26:02 AM
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An interesting project, more than 1 year without new and discussions.  Shocked
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June 17, 2024, 10:19:29 PM
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Looks like another dead topic for a dead coin on a dead forum. Grin

Yes, really sad that the forum dies Wink
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June 17, 2024, 10:20:24 PM
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What post quantum cryptography do you plan to implement ?

We are working on a SPHINCS+ signer in the moment.
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June 19, 2024, 09:54:08 PM
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https://github.com/eomii/SPHINCS-Wallet

you can git clone it, build the docker container, run the code with go run main.go

Then you can create a wallet, sign a message, export your wallet, verify a message and import your wallet 😉
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June 22, 2024, 07:38:13 AM
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https://github.com/eomii/SPHINCS-Wallet

you can git clone it, build the docker container, run the code with go run main.go

Then you can create a wallet, sign a message, export your wallet, verify a message and import your wallet 😉

I assume the first premine was successful for you.  So why not try doing this once again ...

Honestly this is a  pathetic attepmt.
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Last edit: October 14, 2026, 04:02:47 AM by iondns
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This is the official and permanent domain for 2026-2030 QOGE P2QPK  migration

https://qoge.org/
https://explorer.qoge.org/  
https://postquantum.qoge.org
https://pool.qoge.org






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August 01, 2026, 12:50:44 AM
Last edit: October 15, 2026, 07:04:10 AM by iondns
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QOGE Post-Quantum Mainnet Activation Scheduled

The P2QPK post-quantum soft fork has now been formally ratified for the QOGE mainnet.

Activation signaling is scheduled to begin on:

9 August 2026 at 14:12 UTC

With continuous miner signaling, full activation is expected approximately 11–17 days later.

Miners supporting the activation should connect to the dedicated activation pool: https://postquantum.qoge.org

Code:
stratum+tcp://postquantum.qoge.org:3032

Until the consensus deployment status reaches ACTIVE, miners are strongly encouraged to avoid concentrating excessive hashrate on other pools.

Coordinated signaling is important to ensure a smooth and timely activation.

The upgrade introduces consensus enforcement for QOGE’s post-quantum P2QPK transactions using SLH-DSA signatures.

Full ratification document:

SIP-2.0-AMD-012 — QOGE PQC Mainnet Activation
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August 24, 2026, 12:58:32 AM
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🛡 QOGE P2QPK / SLH-DSA Post-Quantum Soft Fork Is Now ACTIVE
Post-quantum signature enforcement is now live on Qogecoin mainnet.

The P2QPK soft fork has successfully completed its BIP9 activation cycle and is now ACTIVE on QOGE mainnet.

Activation block:
Code:
2,459,520

The deployment previously reached LOCKED_IN at block
Code:
2,451,456
, followed by the required activation window.

With activation complete, upgraded Qogecoin nodes now enforce P2QPK transactions using SLH-DSA, the NIST-standardized stateless hash-based digital signature scheme defined in FIPS 205.

What is P2QPK?

P2QPK introduces a dedicated post-quantum transaction path to Qogecoin.

Unlike conventional elliptic-curve signatures, SLH-DSA is a hash-based signature scheme. Its security does not depend on the discrete logarithm problem targeted by Shor's quantum algorithm.

This gives QOGE users a consensus-enforced mechanism for holding and spending funds using post-quantum signatures.

Important: activation does not automatically convert legacy addresses or existing funds into P2QPK outputs. Post-quantum protection applies when P2QPK is actually used, and users intending to rely on it should run software that includes the activated soft-fork rules.

Deprecated Pre-fork nodes can continue following the chain because this is a soft fork, but they do not independently validate P2QPK spends and therefore should not be relied upon for P2QPK custody or mining.

Get the Upgraded Node

Running the upgraded node is required for independent P2QPK verification, custody, or mining.

Source and build instructions:
https://github.com/QOGE/qogecoin

Mining Pool

A P2QPK-aware mining pool is live and accepting connections:

Code:
stratum+tcp://postquantum.qoge.org:3032

Algorithm: yescryptR16

Pointing hashrate at a P2QPK-aware pool means your node-side signaling is handled correctly without needing to build or run a node yourself.

Symbiont Wallet

The GUI for Symbiont Wallet, designed to provide a user-friendly interface for creating and managing P2QPK-HNDL post-quantum transactions, is currently in active development.

Until the GUI is released, P2QPK remains primarily intended for testing, development, and use through compatible software and command-line tooling.

Network Status

Code:
P2QPK deployment: ACTIVE
Activation height: 2459520
Signature scheme: SLH-DSA
Standard: FIPS 205
Deployment: BIP9
Version bit: 3
Consensus change: Soft fork

Node operators can verify the deployment directly:

Code:
qogecoin-cli getdeploymentinfo

The
Code:
p2qpk
deployment should report ACTIVE on an upgraded node.

Live P2QPK activation/status page:
https://postquantum.qoge.org/

Mainnet activation specification / ratification document (SIP = SAOGEN's internal governance ratification record):
SIP-2.0-AMD-012 — PQC Mainnet Activation

The signaling period is complete. P2QPK is live.
QOGE mainnet now supports consensus-enforced SLH-DSA post-quantum signatures.
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October 14, 2026, 01:43:19 AM
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Why Migration to the P2QPK-HNDL defence Soft Fork by 2030 Is Not Optional

A Technical and Strategic Assessment of Qogecoin's Post-Quantum Position

Document status: SIP-C v2.0 | SAOGEN SAO | SAOGEN AGS

Date: 14 October 2026

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1. The Original Qogecoin Repository: An Honest Assessment

Link: https://github.com/qogecoin/qogecoin

Qogecoin was founded with an explicit post-quantum security goal, stated in its whitepaper.
However, a direct inspection of the `qogecoin/qogecoin` repository(branch `stable`, current as of October 2026) reveals that no consensus-layer
implementation of post-quantum cryptography was ever built
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The evidence is specific and technical, not a matter of interpretation:  

None of these failures require advanced cryptographic insight.
A project that publicly positions itself as aiming for post-quantum security while leaving its base consensus and testing machinery in this state
has not demonstrated competence even at the pre-quantum layer it inherits.



** The regtest implementation is missing.**

`CRegTestParams` — the chain parameters class for Qogecoin's isolated local
development and testing network — was never added to `chainparams.cpp`. The
function that selects chain parameters (`CreateChainParams`) has its error  
throw deliberately commented out to hide two missing chain classes.

This is strong evidence of incomplete implementation than simply forgetting to add regtest.
It means the standard development environment for Bitcoin-derived consensus work was never
functional. This is not a small gap — it is the fingerprint of a
codebase that was cloned and improperly configured but never seriously developed at the consensus
layer.


** The mining loop uses the wrong hash function.**

`GenerateBlock` in `rpc/mining.cpp` calls `block.GetHash()` (SHA256d) to
find a valid proof-of-work nonce, while `AcceptBlock` validates with
`block.GetPoWHash()` (yescrypt, Qogecoin's actual PoW algorithm). These are
completely different functions. The mining loop produces a nonce that
satisfies SHA256d but fails yescrypt validation on every block. This serious bug would
be discovered in the first minute of any serious regtest session.


**  DarkGravityWave ignores `fPowNoRetargeting`.**

Qogecoin replaced Bitcoin's difficulty adjustment algorithm with
DarkGravityWave (DGW). However, `GetNextWorkRequired` calls DGW
unconditionally, ignoring the `fPowNoRetargeting` flag that regtest sets to
disable difficulty adjustment during testing. The Bitcoin-derived code that
checks this flag is an unreachable dead code. This is a second bug that would
have been discovered immediately on any regtest mining attempt.


This is the honest starting point from which the P2QPK-HNDL defence soft fork was
developed by SAOGEN.

The larger implication for SAOGEN's AGS is significant:

Qogecoin P2QPK-HNDL defence development was not simply adding quantum-resistant signatures to an already prepared foundation.
It required repairing and rebuilding the whole Qogecoin's infrastructure needed to develop and implement consensus changes safely.


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2. The Threat Model: Why Classical Addresses Cannot Be Left in Place post 2030

Qogecoin, like Bitcoin and all Bitcoin-derived chains, uses secp256k1 elliptic
curve cryptography for address generation and transaction signing. Every QOGE
address is derived from a secp256k1 public key.

The security of secp256k1 depends on the computational hardness of the elliptic
curve discrete logarithm problem (ECDLP). A sufficiently powerful quantum
computer running Shor's algorithm solves ECDLP in polynomial time — meaning it
recovers the private key from the public key deterministically. This is not a
probabilistic attack. Given the public key, it produces the private key.

**When is the public key exposed?**


For any address that has been spent from: the public key was broadcast to the
network at spend time and is permanently recorded on-chain. It cannot be
removed. Any CRQC that scans the blockchain can target these keys immediately.

For any unspent address: the public key is hidden behind a hash (HASH160 or
HASH256 depending on address type). However, the moment the owner attempts to
spend — broadcasting a transaction that includes the public key in the witness
— the key is exposed in the mempool for the duration of the block interval.
On Qogecoin's 1-minute block time, this is a ~60-second window. A CRQC
operating faster than this window could recover the private key and broadcast
a competing transaction before the legitimate one confirms.

**The harvest-now-decrypt-later (HNDL) attack:**
A quantum adversary does not need to wait until a CRQC exists to begin
collecting data. Nation-state and well-resourced actors are archiving
blockchain data today with the explicit intent of decrypting it once quantum
computing reaches sufficient scale. Every secp256k1 public key ever broadcast
on a blockchain is already harvested. The threat is not hypothetical or future
— the collection phase is happening now. The decryption phase follows whenever
the hardware becomes available.

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3. Why "Optional" P2QPK-HNDL  Migration Fails

An optional PQC migration — where P2QPK addresses are available but classical
secp256k1 addresses remain permanently valid — does not solve the problem. It
creates a two-tier chain where:

**Tier 1 (migrated):** P2QPK outputs protected by SLH-DSA (FIPS 205), with
public keys hidden at rest behind HASH256. A CRQC cannot attack what it cannot
see. Additional HNDL defence integrated in the Symbiont Wallet makes the PQC attacks infinitely harder.  

**Tier 2 (unmigrated):** Classical secp256k1 outputs, permanently vulnerable.
Every Qogecoin address in this tier with an exposed public key is a target.

The existence of Tier 2 undermines the entire system, for several reasons:

**Known exploit targets exist permanently.** A quantum adversary does not need
to attack the whole chain — it targets the specific classical outputs it has
already collected public keys for. As long as those outputs are valid and
spendable, the incentive to develop a CRQC to attack them remains.

**Economic confidence is undermined.** A chain where a known class of outputs
can be stolen by a sufficiently advanced attacker cannot credibly claim
post-quantum security. The uncertainty alone suppresses adoption and value.

**The founding promise is not fulfilled.** Qogecoin's whitepaper stated PQC as
a founding goal — not a feature option, but the chain's reason for existing.
A chain that offers PQC as opt-in while leaving classical addresses permanently
valid has not delivered on that promise.

**Low migration pressure without coordination produces worse outcomes.** If
migration is optional but widely understood to be necessary, individual holders
will migrate at different times and rates, leaving a long tail of vulnerable
outputs that are practically difficult to clean up. Mandatory migration with a
defined 1st January 2030 timeline creates a clean cutover with network-wide coordination.

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4. The P2QPK-HNDL Migration Path 2026-2030

The P2QPK-HNDL soft fork is designed to be backward-compatible during the
transition period, using Bitcoin's standard soft fork mechanism.

After a defined cutover period 2026-2030: Classical Qogecoin secp256k1 addresses will be deprecated.
Unmigrated funds are subject to a governance-defined process
(timelock, community fund, or other mechanism to be determined via SIP-C
governance) that prevents them from remaining as permanent quantum-vulnerable
targets.


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5. Summary

| Question | Answer |

Q: Did the original Qogecoin repo implement PQC?
A: No. The whitepaper stated it as a goal; no consensus-layer implementation existed. |

Q: Is the secp256k1 threat real?
A: Yes. Shor's algorithm deterministically recovers private keys from public keys. Collection of public keys is happening now. |

Q: Can optional migration solve this?
A: No. Permanently valid classical addresses remain exploitable targets indefinitely. |

Q: What has been built by SAOGEN AGS?
A: Complete P2QPK-HNDL soft fork: HNDL defence wallet, consensus rules, sighash, activated on mainnet.

Q: Is the migration backward-compatible?
A: Yes, only during the 2026-2030 transition. The soft fork mechanism allows staged adoption.

Q: Is migration ultimately optional?
A: No. The founding promise of Qogecoin and the threat model both require it. |

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*Governed under SIP-C v2.0 | SAOGEN SAO

*Developed by | SAOGEN AGS

*P2QPK-HNDL AGS Repository: https://github.com/QOGE/qogecoin*
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