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October 26, 2021, 03:14:41 PM |
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it better be worth the KYC that you will provide.
But, that worthiness is subjective per individuals. Most bitcoiners here value their privacy more than anything else hence I am not surprised on seeing what OP is looking for. I believe there would be some gambling house will available for us without the need of KYC so we need to make use of them until they ask for documents and need to switch over to another highly reviewed place to enjoy betting. I mean we cannot expect any house to remain not seeking KYC forever but stop using at some point and getting into new place must be the only solution I could suggest to OP rather trying to convince them to go for submitting their documents.
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October 26, 2021, 04:07:41 PM |
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There are things that Sportsbook would consider before asking you for KYC. One factor is your location, your activities, and your withdrawal amount. They wouldn't ask you to submit KYC for any further reason. They're actually doing it for security purposes and not to restrict things for their own benefit.
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October 26, 2021, 07:11:15 PM |
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If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!
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October 26, 2021, 07:40:39 PM |
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What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
The problem with sportsbook is that there are multiple ways players can cheat them and hence at times almost every sportsbook will enforce one of the two: 1- Limitation on account, which means you cannot bet significant amounts. It can happen for many reasons and they can limit you if you are simply winning too much consistently. 2- KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities.
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October 26, 2021, 08:38:32 PM |
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If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!
You are right but as long as the funds are clean and you are not involved in any illegal means then you should never have any problems with them. I am betting at stake and sportsbet for a long time now and never had any problems apart from some wrong settlements and minor issues which are then looked after by the support teams. 1xbet (scam) has been known to cheat players and that is where you need to be careful. If you are gambling at a fair site you should be good.
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October 26, 2021, 08:39:11 PM |
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What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
It's really impossible to trust that any site will abide by this in future. I've seen many smaller sites make this claim in the past and eventually they have all switched over to KYC. The simple fact of the matter is they must do it if they want to survive in the long run. They are going to have fiat currency costs (staff, property, software licensing) involved and the servers that they run on will most likely be located in a country like the US or Europe for stability. That means they will be vulnerable to pressure from the authorities there. If they don't use certain services like DDOS protection (exposing the owners) then they will become vulnerable to perpetual attacks. They will most likely need third party merchant banking services to validate any profits extracted from the business, who would expect to know the source of all funds. All of these things combine to make collecting documentation almost essential once you start making any sort of profit or reach certain scales.
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October 27, 2021, 01:58:52 AM |
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There are things that Sportsbook would consider before asking you for KYC. One factor is your location, your activities, and your withdrawal amount. They wouldn't ask you to submit KYC for any further reason. They're actually doing it for security purposes and not to restrict things for their own benefit.
The important thing is you do not have to break their minimum withdrawal amount so you do not have to do KYC. I think some Sportbook allows you to play without doing KYC, which is okay for you. So we take our responsibility and do not try to break their rules. Otherwise, we will have to do KYC that you do not want to fill. If the KYC is only for sending your name, telephone, or address, that is no problem, but if they need more than that, I think we have to choose to use them still to gamble or search for the other Sportbook.
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October 27, 2021, 04:16:56 AM |
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KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities.
This must be a valid reasoning, never got chances to think this way. I am also always looking for no KYC casinos but not because of afraid about the reason you have mentioned here but to ensure without having any problem in my gambling activities. I am not sure about enforcing KYC is how much helpful for gambling houses but from a gamblers' perspective it is really frustrating. What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
To ensure no KYC always then you need to check for the registration details of a casino as only where a casino got registered must influence their stand on KYC requirements. If their government never bother on collecting details then I guess a casino may remain no KYC until government change their stand.
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October 27, 2021, 06:54:51 AM |
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What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
The problem with sportsbook is that there are multiple ways players can cheat them and hence at times almost every sportsbook will enforce one of the two: 1- Limitation on account, which means you cannot bet significant amounts. It can happen for many reasons and they can limit you if you are simply winning too much consistently. 2- KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities. Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books!
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October 27, 2021, 07:19:49 AM |
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What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
The problem with sportsbook is that there are multiple ways players can cheat them and hence at times almost every sportsbook will enforce one of the two: 1- Limitation on account, which means you cannot bet significant amounts. It can happen for many reasons and they can limit you if you are simply winning too much consistently. 2- KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities. Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books! Betting sites are not afraid that bettors will cheat, they are confident to operate which means they have a strong internal control to prevent or detect gamblers who are cheating. I think most of the concerns I read in the gambling community are the gambling sites cheating the gamblers, not the other way around, so that's not the reason why KYC is required, it's only required due to regulatory compulsory requirements to the operators.
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October 27, 2021, 08:11:32 AM |
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What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
There are numerous websites that don't ask for KYC but make sure to check out their background first before deciding to bet. Some of the online betting sites that I know that doesn't require any verification are Rolleto and Sportsbetting sportsbook. You can check on the Internet about the additional information to the aforementioned sportsbook to see it for yourself if you can trust them. I suggest, aside from finding a "No KYC" website, you should also look for a reputable and trusted sportsbook that could guarantee you assurance of your money. Most especially when you are going to withdraw your prizes, it's much better to be in a site that has been known to take good care of their players and not just only after the profits. You see, betting sites are requiring KYC for a reason and one of the reasons would be to protect both parties and to make sure that there is no law that is being violated, since some uses the platform to do illegal activities. However, if you are uncomfortable with that, you can always opt to find another one that don't require such. Just thoroughly do a history check and gather all the reviews about them. Be wary and updated also about their terms and conditions because mostly it changes without prior notice. So check it from time to time because it is possible that they won't ask for verification for now, but soon after they will.
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October 27, 2021, 08:43:49 AM |
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I would suspect any book that does not really as you a few questions, since something that sit outside regulations means that other legal matters, such as paying you or letting you withdraw money may also be taken as a ad-hoc rather than something you can take for granted. I am of course speaking about the money laundering regulations and such. Only a book that has been around for years could do the trick by replacing guarantees with reputation.
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October 27, 2021, 11:23:54 AM |
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I would suspect any book that does not really as you a few questions, since something that sit outside regulations means that other legal matters, such as paying you or letting you withdraw money may also be taken as a ad-hoc rather than something you can take for granted. I am of course speaking about the money laundering regulations and such. Only a book that has been around for years could do the trick by replacing guarantees with reputation.
Crypto gambling should be different from fiat gambling, and that difference is the advantage of crypto gambling as you can gamble anonymously. If you can trade with an exchange with no KYC or with just an email only and a little information, why it's not possible in a gambling platform?
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October 27, 2021, 03:44:35 PM |
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If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!
You are right but as long as the funds are clean and you are not involved in any illegal means then you should never have any problems with them. I am betting at stake and sportsbet for a long time now and never had any problems apart from some wrong settlements and minor issues which are then looked after by the support teams. 1xbet (scam) has been known to cheat players and that is where you need to be careful. If you are gambling at a fair site you should be good. If you know that your funds have a dirty history you yourself will not use them on Sportsbooks because the chance of losing them is very high. If you know that your funds are clean, there is no reason to expect that you will not be required to go through KYC to prove their origin. Fraud issues are a different story.
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October 27, 2021, 04:12:25 PM |
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Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books!
Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.
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Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books!
Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation. I wonder the same thing?! All I know I picked up from reading stuff across the internet, and mostly it's connected with money laundering, abusing bonuses and promotions... when you get into reading about this stuff you can find many crazy things! I can't even claim that half of that is true! Ordinary player, I include myself in that group, will just go along with the rules of the house! Of course, if we are comfortable with those rules, if not we will look for another place! I don't like KYC, I done it many times and I will probably do it here and there again, but I will try to avoid it as much as I can! Exchange or a casino, it doesn't matter, when KYC becomes mandatory I already have a replacement!
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October 27, 2021, 10:21:02 PM |
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What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
That is difficult, I do not think there is one sport book which has such a hard stance on something like this, there are many reputable sport books which will not ask that information on registration or if your account shows no suspicious signs, however there are two circumstances in which you can be sure you will be hit with a KYC request, the first one is if the sport book realizes there is something wrong with your account, and the second instance is if you happen to win a lot of money in the sport book, so as long as this does not apply to you most likely you will be able to keep playing without going through KYC.
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Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.
I wonder the same thing?! All I know I picked up from reading stuff across the internet, and mostly it's connected with money laundering, abusing bonuses and promotions... when you get into reading about this stuff you can find many crazy things! I can't even claim that half of that is true! Ordinary player, I include myself in that group, will just go along with the rules of the house! Of course, if we are comfortable with those rules, if not we will look for another place! I don't like KYC, I done it many times and I will probably do it here and there again, but I will try to avoid it as much as I can! Exchange or a casino, it doesn't matter, when KYC becomes mandatory I already have a replacement! I think that most of these stories about successful gamblers who beat casinos are written by the casinos themselves (by the way, as well as various winning strategies) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) All this is done for the purpose of advertising and to exploit the feeling of greed in people to lure them into this area. I do not welcome this, gambling should be entertainment, not a way to make money.
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October 28, 2021, 02:53:46 PM |
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Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.
I wonder the same thing?! All I know I picked up from reading stuff across the internet, and mostly it's connected with money laundering, abusing bonuses and promotions... when you get into reading about this stuff you can find many crazy things! I can't even claim that half of that is true! Ordinary player, I include myself in that group, will just go along with the rules of the house! Of course, if we are comfortable with those rules, if not we will look for another place! I don't like KYC, I done it many times and I will probably do it here and there again, but I will try to avoid it as much as I can! Exchange or a casino, it doesn't matter, when KYC becomes mandatory I already have a replacement! I think that most of these stories about successful gamblers who beat casinos are written by the casinos themselves (by the way, as well as various winning strategies) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) All this is done for the purpose of advertising and to exploit the feeling of greed in people to lure them into this area. I do not welcome this, gambling should be entertainment, not a way to make money. Nice theory because no one would appear to the public that they are really making money in sports if they don't have another agenda or if they are not paid. They say that you cannot beat a casino, but in sports betting, you don't beat the casino as they only facilitate bets, you beat your fellow sports bettors if you are a profitable gambler.
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October 28, 2021, 03:46:03 PM |
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If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!
You are right but as long as the funds are clean and you are not involved in any illegal means then you should never have any problems with them. I am betting at stake and sportsbet for a long time now and never had any problems apart from some wrong settlements and minor issues which are then looked after by the support teams. 1xbet (scam) has been known to cheat players and that is where you need to be careful. If you are gambling at a fair site you should be good. Why are you so eager to mention the name of a sportbook just because your perception tells you to work opposite to the question that was asked. No dispute here man. Virtually almost all sportbooks can selectively deprived their players some certain amount of fund in a minute manners. If you are still having problems with your sportbook then while not others. Just work with what works for you not attacking other sport books. No dispute man.
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