The Place of Respect in the Forum.

[BIT-BENDER]

Respect has helped me this far in my life in the forum and out of it, respect or lack of it is the reason why there is racism, why the government can make the citizens lack, the rich sees the poor as a virus, and the mentally challenged commits suicide, respect should be an attitude, to put it into my forum experience, respect has made me see opinions no matter how demeaning it was from different angles and patch up if I need to, I think there is no troll that has an attitude of respect, no is there respect in any one constituting trouble.

With respect as a -Newbie- you can get free coaching an lectures, even without you asking, but when respect is excessive I see it as disrespect/faking .

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[kawetsriyanto]

Sometimes, it may be easy for some people who are in the real-life also can have that behavior easily.
But some people may be different. Some of them may have more strict behavior, higher emotions, and also other conditions in which it can influence online behavior also. And as a consequence, some people may be more emotional, moreover if they know something wrong.

Bt yes, everybody can try it and be respectful of somebody others also do not make any mistake or do not make big mistakes.
But for some people who always make mistakes or similar mistakes, I think that we can be a little bit strong to make them aware and not do similar mistakes again.

being respectful and nice will make this forum be nice and also comfortable for all. But once more, we cannot expect them at all because this consists of various people around the world with different eprsonalities.

[Alisha-k]

Just as we all come from different homes,ethnicity,state and perhaps different countries, we also have different faces,looks,problems and attitude as the major factors that makes us different.
Most peeps have been through serious hard times,war scenarios etc and all these have contributed to toughen their lives entirely 
Am not gonna really put blames on anyone here for being tough or harsh because most times,its not their fault,but for some that have obviously taken upon themselves pride and arrogance, then i think these should be made as a thread for them and newbies that are coming in with the same impression. People change 

[KingsDen]

Respect has helped me this far in my life in the forum and out of it, respect or lack of it is the reason why there is racism, why the government can make the citizens lack, the rich sees the poor as a virus, and the mentally challenged commits suicide, respect should be an attitude, to put it into my forum experience, respect has made me see opinions no matter how demeaning it was from different angles and patch up if I need to, I think there is no troll that has an attitude of respect, no is there respect in any one constituting trouble.

With respect as a -Newbie- you can get free coaching an lectures, even without you asking, but when respect is excessive I see it as disrespect/faking .

What an excellent comment you dropped here sir.
Of a truth, respect should be an attitude, a culture and a habit. It should be shown everyone whether big or small, white or black, rich or poor. Everyone deserves a taste of it.
But in your last paragraph, you stated that excessive of respect is a disrespect.
Sir, is respect supposed to have a limit or can it actually be faked?

[UserU]

Funny and true. I don't know why there is that much variation in one's self. In as much as I agree with you, I want to ask that; if one can be thin-skinned offline and becomes thick-skin online. Can the reverse be the case? ie being bold offline and shy online? Maybe crying over small stuffs...

Because in the online world, anyone can be a cat or a troll or some girl they fancy.

That bolded statement is pretty much true; you'd be surprised that some disliked/ hated forummers here (subject to one's perspective) could be the totally opposite IRL, like those emaciated basement-dwellers or just average Joes working 9-5 jobs.

[aysg76]

To be honest, I see no point in creating a similar theme in the beginner's section. It is more suitable for off-topic.

The off topic doesn't seems to be pouring more merits to the members so that's why they find it suitable to make such threads in main board which are frequently visited by almost every member.But there is no fun of making them as this board is dedicated to help the newbies through useful guides to enhance their crypto knowledge.So this suits best in off topic board where you can have general discussion about respect.

But I agree that sometimes on the Internet we meet people whose behavior on the Internet is very different from their offline behavior. Usually people hide their complexes, which are full in everyday life, and on the Internet, they pretend to be some cool dude respected by the whole  "alma mater" or district
As for beginners, the only true recommendation is to be yourself. If someone is not very strong in any sciences, you don't need to look smarter. Sincerity is always more noticeable than the delivery of knowledge in which a person understands little.

And yes, demanding respect from people is another drawback.
Respect cannot be bought or forcibly made to respect oneself.
Respect comes from what a certain person does and is earned by actions.

Our task is to give the best out of our talent and knowledge without having much expectations from other people because if they don't stand up on our expectations we might get hurt.So yes it's better to make your position by your work and you don't need to ask others for your respect.

But @Op avoid making such threads in B&H section as they are termed to be irrelevant and of not much quality and you will also not get merits for the same.

[Piggymonster]

People think that it is easy to disrespect or bully a person online like here in this forum as they hide behind pseudonyms keeping themselves out of reach and will not likely to get caught and be punished for cyberbullying. Cyberbullying is much more worse than face-to-face harassment as it can spread like wildfire and become a public rumor creating much more damage to the victim online with the face-to-face it is only a few people involved. For me, we should be nice to everyone as we are all human beings, those rude people needs understanding and compassion as I believe that they are also victims of bully or have a mental health problems.   

[KingsDen]

The off topic doesn't seems to be pouring more merits to the members so that's why they find it suitable to make such threads in main board which are frequently visited by almost every member...But there is no fun of making them as this board is dedicated to help the newbies through useful guides to enhance their crypto knowledge.So this suits best in off topic board where you can have general discussion about respect...

But @Op avoid making such threads in B&H section as they are termed to be irrelevant and of not much quality and you will also not get merits for the same.

The essence of this thread is not to attract alot of merits. A good poster will get merited even without creating threads. It marvels me that you threw much merit emphasis on a topic that said nothing/little about merits.
Suggesting I make the thread in off topics board; but I do not create topics on the boards that I do not visit.
However, if you honestly think that there is nothing in this thread that will Help any user be it old or new and also do not think that this thread will make a newbie learn to be respectful in the forum and finally you find this thread so damaging to be on B$H, please you can report to the moderator to move it to the appropriate board. Thanks!

[lovesmayfamilis]

To be honest, I see no point in creating a similar theme in the beginner's section. It is more suitable for off-topic.

The off topic doesn't seems to be pouring more merits to the members so that's why they find it suitable to make such threads in main board which are frequently visited by almost every member.But there is no fun of making them as this board is dedicated to help the newbies through useful guides to enhance their crypto knowledge.So this suits best in off topic board where you can have general discussion about respect.

But I agree that sometimes on the Internet we meet people whose behavior on the Internet is very different from their offline behavior. Usually people hide their complexes, which are full in everyday life, and on the Internet, they pretend to be some cool dude respected by the whole  "alma mater" or district
As for beginners, the only true recommendation is to be yourself. If someone is not very strong in any sciences, you don't need to look smarter. Sincerity is always more noticeable than the delivery of knowledge in which a person understands little.

And yes, demanding respect from people is another drawback.
Respect cannot be bought or forcibly made to respect oneself.
Respect comes from what a certain person does and is earned by actions.

Our task is to give the best out of our talent and knowledge without having much expectations from other people because if they don't stand up on our expectations we might get hurt.So yes it's better to make your position by your work and you don't need to ask others for your respect.

But @Op avoid making such threads in B&H section as they are termed to be irrelevant and of not much quality and you will also not get merits for the same.

I advise you to double-check the citation of my post, in order to avoid further problems. Otherwise, it looks like copying. Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367853.msg58305891#msg58305891

Look at the highlighted part of the text. Missing quote. Add the selected text to the quote.

[aysg76]

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Thanks for pointing it out here also as i made that mistake with inappropriate quote option but now i have edited my post with correct method.Actually i should have double checked my post before posting and the mistake would not have occurred but still sorry for the mistake and will keep it in mind next time.

The essence of this thread is not to attract alot of merits. A good poster will get merited even without creating threads. It marvels me that you threw much merit emphasis on a topic that said nothing/little about merits.

I have not blamed you for merit hunting threads but was just giving you a friendly advice that these threads are of not much help and as a community it's our ethics to have respect for each other but if we create special thread dedicated to them then it's suited to particular boards even if you visit them or not.So it was an advice.

[KingsDen]

I have not blamed you for merit hunting threads but was just giving you a friendly advice that these threads are of not much help and as a community it's our ethics to have respect for each other but if we create special thread dedicated to them then it's suited to particular boards even if you visit them or not.So it was an advice.

Noted!
I was surprised though how merit hunting was being repeated by you, now I understood that maybe you were generalising.
Taken! Any topic that will not benefit Newbies I will take it to off topic board.

I would love to share in an interview and maybe if there is a specific thread for that.

Just ask zasad@ for this and ask about the thread that he/she created. 
[Interviews] with Bitcointalk members, it might you have a chance to give an interview and below thread indicate, don't hesitate to send him a PM or try to reach him out via PM.

Noted!
I have visited the thread before, it's a nice one. I will request for an interview, maybe when I become a senior member.  Thanks very much.

[aysg76]

Noted!
I was surprised though how merit hunting was being repeated by you, now I understood that maybe you were generalising.
Taken! Any topic that will not benefit Newbies I will take it to off topic board.

I referred to this point only that even if we don't visit such boards like off-topic but generally these threads suit there so we have to abide by the forum rules and make threads in that sections.But as you have understood that these threads deemed to be of low quality and serve no useful purpose we need to avoid them to the possible extent.Rest keep posting effectively.

[KarpovE4]

In my culture, respect is given to elders in the community. They are deemed wiser because of their age and experience in life. Not every society practices those kind of culture. OP has been corrected not to use sir in addressing others yet he continues to do so. To him he is being polite, to others it looks like kissing sss. There are societies that are so free they do not have any culture  Ethnicity and background has an effect on humans behavior

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

In my culture, respect is given to elders in the community. They are deemed wiser because of their age and experience in life. Not every society practices those kind of culture. OP has been corrected not to use sir in addressing others yet he continues to do so. To him he is being polite, to others it looks like kissing sss. There are societies that are so free they do not have any culture  Ethnicity and background has an effect on humans behavior

We all have ethics that are inbuilt into us from childhood that are hard to let go but the more you get educate yourself, the more you should be able to compromised and adapt to any society you find yourself. We're are equals here which is why the use of username is recommended and not giving anyone title or respect more than the other. Don't be surprised those you look down on might even be more successful than those you worship based on their rank.

When you're out of the forum, you can return to the ethics of whatever region you're from. For example, there are a tribe in my country and Africa as a continent that don't allow women speak when men/elders are speaking. Assuming someone is from such tribe, it doesn't make sense bringinythat into the forum.

Already it has been warned to abstain from calling people sir or ma on the forum. It only degrades you and profile you as a users from third world countries begging. You're doing yourself more harm instead of getting favours, just so you know. Now it's left for you to decide.

[dbc23]

Online forums is becoming a life of many and bullying online  is the same as bullying some one offline. Same idea plays out same emotions, same thoughts, same feeling. Respect should be a watch word both offline and online. I was once a victim of bully here on this forum and it actually got to me and took me a long time to heal. It would be nice if users act with respect for each other

[isaac_clarke22]

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Respect in the online world is a bit difficult to earn actually since you never know if the people behind the monitor is really a legitimate person to be given a "respect". I got bullied also but it was in Facebook and what is worse is that those are people that I knew, maybe not friends but still my point stands. I just learned how to give zero Fs to people around the internet and just give respect to those who really deserve it.

Expect internet to be the internet, mate. You will meet all kinds of people in here, not just in the forum. Even in gaming communities, there are those so called "toxic gaming communities" and there is not a single thing that everyone can do about it.

[Alisha-k]

Everyone can't exhibit same character, many at times, people respond rudely to others not because that's their usual character but as means to get back to them due to the way the where addressed....

Nonetheless, we should always be prepared for anything, if you're in a place where you do not find comfort, it's best you walk out atleast for your own sanity...
Do not expect everybody to treat you with respect.

[KingsDen]

@Isaac, @Alishak and others. I have read so many views in this thread and they are all correct.
One school of thought here implied that we are from different countries, different race, different religion, different region, different culture. As such some cultures sees respect as important and mandatory while others does not consider it worthful.
Then, the other school of thought is saying that despite that we are from different race and regions, we are all humans. Then humanity which teaches respect should be the general religion.
Everyone is right depending on the school of thought you toe.