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November 08, 2021, 01:41:21 AM
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

He is already healthy no more effects of that shoulder injury as we have seen that he is back to his old form of being so technical against a bigger Nakatani. He as so impressive that he looks for another match within the year and it will be Richard Commey.

Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

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November 08, 2021, 04:32:03 AM
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Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

Yes, I agree. All these fights for Loma are considered minor ones, the ones he needs to go through to face Teofimo once again. Commey is just one piece of the puzzle, a stepping stone. This is the road to Lopez really. Loma won't allow Lopez to just get away with that. He will definitely have his revenge. Lopez is still the ultimate goal here. But I doubt the result will be any different if Loma will not change his strategy against Lopez. The last time they met, it was very obvious Teofimo was the better boxer.
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November 08, 2021, 06:18:00 AM
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Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too,  but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

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November 08, 2021, 08:18:53 AM
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Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too,  but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

Loma certainly has the edge here, in fact, AFAIR, there's no fight of his that he was an underdog, he always gets listed as the favorite to win, just like this fight. After he lose against Teofimo Lopez, I'm sure he trained harder to continue achieving his dream, and maybe one day he would become an undisputed champion in his division like Canelo had recently achieved.

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November 08, 2021, 08:53:28 AM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

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November 08, 2021, 11:23:29 AM
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

If Loma will win over Commey, high likelihood that he will ask for Lopez rematch. So in order to make it happen, I am seeing that Loma will not underestimate Commey here even if he is the underdog, as he needs a sure win to get the rematch. This match is still not listed in crypto bookies but if fiat bookies are already starting to give their odds, we may see this in crypto bookies in these coming weeks.

Loma would want that rematch or sure, but Lopez seems reluctant and thinks that rematch is not necessary anymore.

This was his statement per this article https://www.boxingscene.com/lopez-on-lomachenko-rematch-what-same-thing-happen-again--152568

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Lopez On Lomachenko Rematch: For What? Same Thing Will Happen Again

He is so sure that he will win, but honestly, I still like to see a rematch and I would definitely bet on a humble fighter and that is not Lopez.

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November 08, 2021, 11:36:30 AM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.

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November 08, 2021, 01:00:46 PM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.
I'm sure that is not the reason, in terms of fight experience, Richard Commey has more because he got 30 fights already in his professional career while Lomachenko only has 15 of half of Richard Commey total fights.

We can check their records ;
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

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November 08, 2021, 02:26:55 PM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.
I'm sure that is not the reason, in terms of fight experience, Richard Commey has more because he got 30 fights already in his professional career while Lomachenko only has 15 of half of Richard Commey total fights.

We can check their records ;
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

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November 08, 2021, 02:50:02 PM
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True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

I just saw this on my feed Teofimo Lopez still consider Loma the best lightweight in the world and he can beat all the top names in the lightweight division, Lopez knows how tough Loma and he is giving him respect and now Commey will find out how great Loma is when they fought, Commey is a huge underdog here even though he is a knock out artist I don't think he can deliver a big punch against Loma.


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True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

I just saw this on my feed Teofimo Lopez still consider Loma the best lightweight in the world and he can beat all the top names in the lightweight division, Lopez knows how tough Loma and he is giving him respect and now Commey will find out how great Loma is when they fought, Commey is a huge underdog here even though he is a knock out artist I don't think he can deliver a big punch against Loma.



That's new from Teofimo Lopez, and him saying that I realized he still thinks that he is better than Loma and probably think also that he can beat the fighters he mentioned in his statement that Loma could beat... I like this guy ( Lopez), he knows how to choose his word, so how about him giving Loma a rematch so he'll be part of the list.

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November 08, 2021, 11:30:07 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

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November 10, 2021, 06:12:07 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Maybe Lopez is waiting for Loma to age, he is already 33 years old, others may say that this is the age wherein boxers started to decline, but there could be argument that he is still in his prime.

So Lopez might be looking at Loma's performance against Commey here, if he sees that Loma is no longer at his peak then maybe he will give him a rematch. Unless the government bodies are going to force Lopez to defend against his mandatory Loma or be strip or his belt.

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November 10, 2021, 06:17:44 PM
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

He is already healthy no more effects of that shoulder injury as we have seen that he is back to his old form of being so technical against a bigger Nakatani. He as so impressive that he looks for another match within the year and it will be Richard Commey.

Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

In this fight, despite all the efforts, I think that if I would go with the statistics, because I believe that Lomachenko can put up a great fight, if things go well for him and his training I dare to think that he can give him a knockout, it is not for discrediting Commey, but Commey may have some physical deficiencies, that injury can affect him and I understand that injuries in men are quite serious and very difficult to heal at 1005 because it is very easy to get injured again. From my own experience, the shoulders are usually the ones that give strength to the blow, and especially those that give the technique to follow, for this reason it is very important that the shoulders are well and I think that may be the Achilles heel.

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November 10, 2021, 06:44:38 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Maybe Lopez is waiting for Loma to age, he is already 33 years old, others may say that this is the age wherein boxers started to decline, but there could be argument that he is still in his prime.

So Lopez might be looking at Loma's performance against Commey here, if he sees that Loma is no longer at his peak then maybe he will give him a rematch. Unless the government bodies are going to force Lopez to defend against his mandatory Loma or be strip or his belt.
Nah, I think Loma is still in the best years of his boxing career, no way that he is not his prime despite being 33 years old. At that age, Manny Pacquiao is still destroying anyone from 147 lbs.

He just doesn't want to give Loma a rematch, simply at that. Maybe because he is afraid that he will lose this time when Loma is healthy.

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November 10, 2021, 07:48:01 PM
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I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko.  

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November 10, 2021, 07:59:04 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.

Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.

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^^ Forget about Lopez for a while, that statement is really full of crap from him.

He is so afraid of a rematch that he is going up to 140 lbs, because for sure that will be too much even for the great Loma to go. He will be too small for that and his body might not react the same (reflex, speed, power). So let's just enjoy Loma vs Commey and how he will break down and destroy a great fighter in Richard Commey.
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.

Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.

Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.

Personally, I can say that if there's  a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with

a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.

Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for  Smiley
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