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November 02, 2021, 08:03:09 AM
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https://www.toprank.com/all-news/broadway-loma-vasiliy-lomachenko-richard-commey-lightweight-showdown-marks-boxings-return-to-madison-square-garden-december-11-and-live-on-espn/

So Loma is back after his big win against Nakatani. And then time will be pitted against Richard Commey, a former champion.

Although we can argue that it seems that Loma is just fighting Teo Lopez left-over, but he is doing it more than Lopez though. Lopez has a difficult fight against Nakatani, but Loma just toyed with Nakatani and defeat him via TKO. So the pattern may continue here, I will have Loma winning by stoppage and the fight will not last 12 rounds.

Richard Commey - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
Vasyl Lomachenko - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

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November 02, 2021, 08:55:25 AM
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I think this is still a great and exciting fight and Loma is really hell bent of getting into the pound for pound list again after his lost to Lopez. Who knows, maybe the winner hear will fight the winner of Lopez vs Kambosos.

So Loma will somewhat have his revenge if everything falls into pieces.

I would also say that Loma will beat Commey, and the odds will so in Loma's favour, probably around 1.2x-1.3x.

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November 02, 2021, 12:28:37 PM
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So 2 fights this year for Lomachenko? indeed he might be thinking of regaining his previous position in the p2p lists. And it's a tough comeback road for him, but he is not taking it a lightly after that shoulder injury that causes him the title against Lopez. All roads though seems lead to Teofimo Lopez, so if he wanted to get his rematch, he has to do it the hard way. And I will go with the popular opinion here that Loma is going to win, maybe we just have to wait for the bookies to open up and see the odds.


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November 02, 2021, 02:23:24 PM
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Finally a good (or I'd say better) opponent for Lomachenko. His fight against Masayoshi Nakatani was quite easy. Commey is not an "easy running" for Loma.

I would not say that Loma is getting left-over from Lopez, he is just chasing him Cheesy Soon Lopez will run out of opponent and they with Loma would be again. Now that will be a real exiting to watch. To watch if Loma could regain his fame and titles, or Lopez prove his words that he could beat him anytime anywhere".

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November 02, 2021, 10:49:00 PM
Last edit: November 03, 2021, 09:44:54 AM by Yaunfitda
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Finally a good (or I'd say better) opponent for Lomachenko. His fight against Masayoshi Nakatani was quite easy. Commey is not an "easy running" for Loma.

I would not say that Loma is getting left-over from Lopez, he is just chasing him Cheesy Soon Lopez will run out of opponent and they with Loma would be again. Now that will be a real exiting to watch. To watch if Loma could regain his fame and titles, or Lopez prove his words that he could beat him anytime anywhere".
Exactly, he is really chasing Lopez here, and there will be a chance in the future, and it's going to be inevitable that they will have to face each other again for the belt. The only chance that Lopez avoids him is to jump in weight to 140 lbs.

At least we all know who is really afraid of Loma and doesn't want to give him the rematch that he all deserves. Nakatani though is a tough fight, it's that the Loma makes it easy for him to win because he is very technical.

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November 03, 2021, 12:35:02 AM
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I would not say that Loma is getting left-over from Lopez, he is just chasing him Cheesy Soon Lopez will run out of opponent and they with Loma would be again. Now that will be a real exiting to watch. To watch if Loma could regain his fame and titles, or Lopez prove his words that he could beat him anytime anywhere".

Yes, this is no left over fight, Nakatani and now Commey is not a cherry pick fight for Loma.

Maybe he just wanted to proved something, or both of this boxers is very challenging for him that's why he is willing to take the fight and doesn't want any easy road before a eventually rematch with Lopez.

I'm seeing Loma by a wide margin if this goes to the judges scorecard, or possible a knock out with below 10 rounds. ML will not be an attractive bet for Loma here.

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November 03, 2021, 06:00:24 AM
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https://www.toprank.com/all-news/broadway-loma-vasiliy-lomachenko-richard-commey-lightweight-showdown-marks-boxings-return-to-madison-square-garden-december-11-and-live-on-espn/

So Loma is back after his big win against Nakatani. And then time will be pitted against Richard Commey, a former champion.

Although we can argue that it seems that Loma is just fighting Teo Lopez left-over, but he is doing it more than Lopez though. Lopez has a difficult fight against Nakatani, but Loma just toyed with Nakatani and defeat him via TKO. So the pattern may continue here, I will have Loma winning by stoppage and the fight will not last 12 rounds.

Richard Commey - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
Vasyl Lomachenko - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

It will be an exciting fight knowing that both boxers are professional ones that are actively fighting for an average of 7-8 months. It's good to know that we could witness such an incredible fight because definitely the two would be unstoppable inside the boxing ring.

Both boxers Loma and Commey had lost to Lopez before. But they do have a very nice record in boxing. Loma having a 15W, 2L, with 11 knockouts on his winning matches which is certainly impressive for his age. Meanwhile, Commey have 30W, 3L, with 27 knockouts on his winning games. Loma have roughly 70% winning rate while Commey has 90% basing on their history. With that, we could say that the game could be in favor of Commey because he is more experienced compared to Loma, but surely Loma won't let his guard down.

This would really be fun and thrilling to watch. I hope they would let us witness another KO match. With their records, I guess it's possible to happen. We just have to wait for a few weeks from now.
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November 03, 2021, 08:54:51 AM
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Finally a good (or I'd say better) opponent for Lomachenko. His fight against Masayoshi Nakatani was quite easy. Commey is not an "easy running" for Loma.

I would not say that Loma is getting left-over from Lopez, he is just chasing him Cheesy Soon Lopez will run out of opponent and they with Loma would be again. Now that will be a real exiting to watch. To watch if Loma could regain his fame and titles, or Lopez prove his words that he could beat him anytime anywhere".

It will be possible for him to fight back against Lopez after he defeats Commey in their upcoming fight. I think it's better for him to clean up the mess first for his warm-up before being given back chance to fight Lopez to regain back what he had lost. That's just how boxing works, when you are a great fighter and knocking down opponents, there will come a time when you will face another man who is greater than you that will knock out the best of you but as long as you are fighting, you always have a chance to try to beat him back.

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November 03, 2021, 09:00:52 AM
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Finally a good (or I'd say better) opponent for Lomachenko. His fight against Masayoshi Nakatani was quite easy. Commey is not an "easy running" for Loma.

I would not say that Loma is getting left-over from Lopez, he is just chasing him Cheesy Soon Lopez will run out of opponent and they with Loma would be again. Now that will be a real exiting to watch. To watch if Loma could regain his fame and titles, or Lopez prove his words that he could beat him anytime anywhere".

It will be possible for him to fight back against Lopez after he defeats Commey in their upcoming fight. I think it's better for him to clean up the mess first for his warm-up before being given back chance to fight Lopez to regain back what he had lost. That's just how boxing works, when you are a great fighter and knocking down opponents, there will come a time when you will face another man who is greater than you that will knock out the best of you but as long as you are fighting, you always have a chance to try to beat him back.

Also, Lopez needs to win against his mandatory in Kambosos and then Loma beating ex-champ RC for a possible rematch with Lopez. Yes, he lost to Lopez, but I'm not that convince because Loma doesn't want to make an excuse, but he has shoulder injury back then.

That's why boxing fans are clamouring for a rematch, a healthy and very technical Loma against agressive style of Lopez. Who will win this time?
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November 03, 2021, 09:45:38 AM
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A match against a former champion like Commey is still worth taking for Lomachecnko and still a big challenge, although Lomachenko is the overwhelming favorite, Commey is still dangerous and can still pull an upset, do not count Commey out yet he's still at it check out this last fight of Commey that ended in a knock out against his opponent, both fighters need this fight to get back in contention for a world title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0p6tEC4uS4


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November 03, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
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A match against a former champion like Commey is still worth taking for Lomachecnko and still a big challenge, although Lomachenko is the overwhelming favorite, Commey is still dangerous and can still pull an upset, do not count Commey out yet he's still at it check out this last fight of Commey that ended in a knock out against his opponent, both fighters need this fight to get back in contention for a world title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0p6tEC4uS4

I agree, Commey is still at his prime, so this fight could be consider as dangerous as well for Loma.

Loma might be the outstanding favourite, but we have seen some upsets lately, and Commey is a live dog here so don't count him out yet. Loma will be tested here, and Commey just come up from a big victory as well. Commey might give Loma problems early, and then Loma will do some adjustments and that's what makes the fight very interesting.
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November 03, 2021, 10:16:35 AM
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https://www.toprank.com/all-news/broadway-loma-vasiliy-lomachenko-richard-commey-lightweight-showdown-marks-boxings-return-to-madison-square-garden-december-11-and-live-on-espn/

So Loma is back after his big win against Nakatani. And then time will be pitted against Richard Commey, a former champion.

Although we can argue that it seems that Loma is just fighting Teo Lopez left-over, but he is doing it more than Lopez though. Lopez has a difficult fight against Nakatani, but Loma just toyed with Nakatani and defeat him via TKO. So the pattern may continue here, I will have Loma winning by stoppage and the fight will not last 12 rounds.

Richard Commey - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
Vasyl Lomachenko - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

I wonder why the major bookmakers have not yet set the odds for this fight (maybe I'm bad at searching). From what I found, I see that the odds for Lomachenko's victory will be approximately 1.15 and for Commey's victory 5.5. Maybe the odds will still shift, now they look too unbalanced in favor of Lomachenko.

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November 03, 2021, 11:00:23 AM
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It's a fight to stay alive they are both beaten by Lopez and they want to win a title again, both fighters cannot afford another loss, I'm sure both fighters will give all their best, it's even for me Commey's last win is through a knockout, and he can still deliver a knockout, and Loma is still Loma, always the guy with a lot of moves in the ring so it will become a very interesting fight.

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November 03, 2021, 12:04:16 PM
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It will be possible for him to fight back against Lopez after he defeats Commey in their upcoming fight. I think it's better for him to clean up the mess first for his warm-up before being given back chance to fight Lopez to regain back what he had lost.

Are you sure that after Commey, Lopez and Lomachenko are having a fight? Never seen this in news. Moreover, I've seen many times Lopez talking that he does not want to fight Lomachenko for the second time. As if he has won and now move on, and Lomachenko is the past.

I dont know who is not making any steps for the their rematch. Either Lopez is avoiding, or Lomachenko is not pushing enough boxing association for a fight. The rematch clause should have been written in their contract. The same that was in Fury vs Wilder - an obligatory rematch if one fighter is not happy with fight result.

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November 03, 2021, 12:55:33 PM
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It will be possible for him to fight back against Lopez after he defeats Commey in their upcoming fight. I think it's better for him to clean up the mess first for his warm-up before being given back chance to fight Lopez to regain back what he had lost.

Are you sure that after Commey, Lopez and Lomachenko are having a fight? Never seen this in news. Moreover, I've seen many times Lopez talking that he does not want to fight Lomachenko for the second time. As if he has won and now move on, and Lomachenko is the past.

I dont know who is not making any steps for the their rematch. Either Lopez is avoiding, or Lomachenko is not pushing enough boxing association for a fight. The rematch clause should have been written in their contract. The same that was in Fury vs Wilder - an obligatory rematch if one fighter is not happy with fight result.

If he beats Comey the same way Lopez beat Commey, he can demand a rematch against Lopez, the first fight is not close Loma only win one round on one judge, Lomachenko's alibi is he has a fractured shoulder, although a bad excuse because he is still a good fighter and he must prove on this match that he is still great, then they can talk of a rematch, Loma must convince the promoters that he deserves a rematch, and this fight is the one that can prove it.

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A match against a former champion like Commey is still worth taking for Lomachecnko and still a big challenge, although Lomachenko is the overwhelming favorite, Commey is still dangerous and can still pull an upset, do not count Commey out yet he's still at it check out this last fight of Commey that ended in a knock out against his opponent, both fighters need this fight to get back in contention for a world title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0p6tEC4uS4

This summer, Ukrainian boxer Lomachenko easily defeated strong Japanese boxer Masayoshi Nakatano.  And before that, he was unlucky.  He lost to Teofimo Lopez.  In doing so, he lost the world title.  This is very disappointing ...

Commey is a strong contender.  He is much stronger than Nakatano.  I think Lomachenko will play a classic positional battle.  He will circle around Commey, delivering precise punches to the face and body.  His goal is not a knockout, but a victory.  And for this it is enough to show your superiority.  

And Commey's only hope is to knock out Lomachenko.  

I think that Lomachenko will become the winner in this fight.

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November 03, 2021, 04:23:35 PM
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I think this is still a great and exciting fight and Loma is really hell bent of getting into the pound for pound list again after his lost to Lopez. Who knows, maybe the winner hear will fight the winner of Lopez vs Kambosos.

So Loma will somewhat have his revenge if everything falls into pieces.

I would also say that Loma will beat Commey, and the odds will so in Loma's favour, probably around 1.2x-1.3x.

I really have my hopes for Loma this time. I believe that it'd already be another chance for him to prove himself more on the ring. He has gone through a lot and it would be a perfect time for him to put up a good record. However, it will also be a tough match for Commey. They will surely be  a huge challenge for each other in this match.
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November 03, 2021, 04:53:04 PM
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Finally a good (or I'd say better) opponent for Lomachenko. His fight against Masayoshi Nakatani was quite easy. Commey is not an "easy running" for Loma.
True, 27 KOs from 30 wins is quite remarkable. I still nervous when Loma fight in Lightweight tho since he doesn't have the physique to be in this class. I hope his southpaw and technique can neutralize Comey, but I'm not so sure.

The good thing is, Loma can win by points, so he can just dance around getting points. I want to bet on Loma, but if the odds aren't tempting, I won't do that since this is not a sure win IMO.

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November 03, 2021, 04:55:03 PM
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I think this is still a great and exciting fight and Loma is really hell bent of getting into the pound for pound list again after his lost to Lopez. Who knows, maybe the winner hear will fight the winner of Lopez vs Kambosos.

So Loma will somewhat have his revenge if everything falls into pieces.

I would also say that Loma will beat Commey, and the odds will so in Loma's favour, probably around 1.2x-1.3x.

I really have my hopes for Loma this time. I believe that it'd already be another chance for him to prove himself more on the ring. He has gone through a lot and it would be a perfect time for him to put up a good record. However, it will also be a tough match for Commey. They will surely be  a huge challenge for each other in this match.

Well he is on the road to somewhat redeem himself after that big lost against Lopez.
He has taken care of Nakatani, defeated him using this technique and Nakatani wasn't able to recover and it looks a very easy win for Loma. Now he up the challenge again, this time against hard hitting Commey, long reach and strong right hand. But that's it, Commey strengths are going to be exploited by Loma and I think this fight will not even last just like in the Nakatani fight as Loma will be too technical savvy for Commey.

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November 03, 2021, 09:25:57 PM
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I guess this is a good fight for Loma, fighting an experienced fighter will add more spice to his resume once he wins this fight.

A rematch of Lopez would be a big fight, but both fighters are busy now fighter with other challengers and I like this match for Loma which I don't think he will have an easier win compared to his previous fight. On the other hand, Lopez should make his fight happen soon so after Loma wins this fight, they can set up a rematch.

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The winner of this match will likely become the next contender of Lopez, both are beaten by Lopez and both want to get back in contention but between the two I prefer Loma to win this fight and get Lopez into a rematch, Loma claims that he was limited because of an injury in the fight, let's see if in the second fight if there will be a different outcome.
People want to see a Loma - Lopez fight than the Comey -  Lopez fight.

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November 04, 2021, 03:09:56 AM
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Another fight for Loma within the year. He's got enough rest after his June fight with Nakatani. It was an easy fight. There was not much recovery needed. Loma was not that hurt in that match. December is a perfect time for another match. But this time around Loma is up against a hardened fighter in Commey. But still I don't see Commey winning this fight. He's got the punch of course but I doubt it will land on Loma squarely enough to knock him out. If by points, Commey cannot win against Loma.
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November 04, 2021, 04:17:01 AM
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I guess this is a good fight for Loma, fighting an experienced fighter will add more spice to his resume once he wins this fight.

He is not picking easy fights, even in his comeback, he fights a tall Nakatani, but it shows that Loma has recovered by that shoulder injury. Shows his old self with different angles and foot placement in that fight.

A rematch of Lopez would be a big fight, but both fighters are busy now fighter with other challengers and I like this match for Loma which I don't think he will have an easier win compared to his previous fight. On the other hand, Lopez should make his fight happen soon so after Loma wins this fight, they can set up a rematch.

Right, it will be the biggest fight in the division if ever they are going to face each other again.

Hopefully Lopez will give Loma his due rematch. All we wanted to see is that how a fit and 100% and healthy Loma will go against Lopez. During their first fight, Loma try to do it, but it's late already, Lopez has built enough lead on the judges card.

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November 04, 2021, 07:08:48 AM
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While Lopez keeps delaying his fight, people now have slowly forgotten his loss against Lopez because Loma is more active now and he keeps fighting to prove that he is still here.

Lopez vs Loma rematch should happen, that's what everyone wants to see, and even if Lopez won against an injured Loma, I guess I'll still trust Loma to reclaim himself if a rematch would happen, hopefully, Lopez will take that challenge.

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November 04, 2021, 07:43:59 AM
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Both just won their last fight in a great way, so this is going to be a very good matchup, but Loma's resume is much better than Commey, whoever wins in this fight will have a chance to meet Lopez again, I'm in favor of Loma winning the fight so he can have a rematch against Lopez because Loma has a huge excuse that he is injured so the second match will be a good deciding factor for Loma.
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November 04, 2021, 10:16:32 AM
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Well on this match --I will go with Richard Commey.
As a record of [30-3, 27 KO] I think that is enough experience for him to knock out his opponent. It seems Vasiliy Lomachenko was very young in this industry and perhaps that is becoming the odds are in favor of Commey. However, I don't think this is a perfect match but for now, no one else who would fight Commey is just Lomachenko. Booth players are very aggressive and technically I am basing on their experience, perhaps I am wrong with this assumption but I am a solid supporter of Richard Commey.









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November 04, 2021, 10:27:32 AM
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The winner of this match will likely become the next contender of Lopez, both are beaten by Lopez and both want to get back in contention but between the two I prefer Loma to win this fight and get Lopez into a rematch, Loma claims that he was limited because of an injury in the fight, let's see if in the second fight if there will be a different outcome.
People want to see a Loma - Lopez fight than the Comey -  Lopez fight.

Sure. As you can see from the odds that I gave in the previous post, the public regards Loma as a clear favorite, so hardly anyone wants Lopez's fight to be one-sided against an obvious underdog (Comey). Loma's words about the reasons for the defeat against Lopez look reasonable, I would like to know who is in this fight if it takes place will be the favorite.

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November 04, 2021, 12:40:21 PM
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While Lopez keeps delaying his fight, people now have slowly forgotten his loss against Lopez because Loma is more active now and he keeps fighting to prove that he is still here.

Nice way to put it, he should have fought Kambosos by now, while Loma beats Nakatani and now has a schedule fight in December, taking about active in the pandemic.

Lopez vs Loma rematch should happen, that's what everyone wants to see, and even if Lopez won against an injured Loma, I guess I'll still trust Loma to reclaim himself if a rematch would happen, hopefully, Lopez will take that challenge.

According to him he doesn't want to give Loma a rematch because he thinks eh beat him convincingly. But hopefully, as fight fans we wanted to see a second fight because Loma said that he is injured in the first fight.
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November 04, 2021, 12:49:24 PM
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Well on this match --I will go with Richard Commey.
As a record of [30-3, 27 KO] I think that is enough experience for him to knock out his opponent. It seems Vasiliy Lomachenko was very young in this industry and perhaps that is becoming the odds are in favor of Commey. However, I don't think this is a perfect match but for now, no one else who would fight Commey is just Lomachenko. Booth players are very aggressive and technically I am basing on their experience, perhaps I am wrong with this assumption but I am a solid supporter of Richard Commey.

Not sure what you mean that Lomachenko is very young in boxing, yes he fought for a title in his 3rd fight and have won multiple divisional belts already and considered as pound for pound until he lost to Teofimo Lopez.

Goodluck on supporting Richard Commey here, because he is going to be one huge underdog in this fight. And maybe he will be the one getting knockout.
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One last fight for Lomachenko this year, hopefully, he will be able to end it with another win.

This fight will happen in just over a month, so I'm wondering maybe the odds are already out now, anyone here has an idea what's the betting odds of this fight? Obviously, Lomachenko will be the favorites but I like to specifically know how favorite he is based on the line.

anyway, here are some information regarding the fight.
https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-commey/

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One last fight for Lomachenko this year, hopefully, he will be able to end it with another win.

This fight will happen in just over a month, so I'm wondering maybe the odds are already out now, anyone here has an idea what's the betting odds of this fight? Obviously, Lomachenko will be the favorites but I like to specifically know how favorite he is based on the line.

anyway, here are some information regarding the fight.
https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-commey/

It's too early to expect a betting odds for this fight, maybe by December it will be available, so let's just be patient. Besides, we know who to choose and obviously, it's Lomachenko as he is healthy and ready to dominate again.

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November 04, 2021, 02:01:31 PM
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One last fight for Lomachenko this year, hopefully, he will be able to end it with another win.

This fight will happen in just over a month, so I'm wondering maybe the odds are already out now, anyone here has an idea what's the betting odds of this fight? Obviously, Lomachenko will be the favorites but I like to specifically know how favorite he is based on the line.

anyway, here are some information regarding the fight.
https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-commey/

It's too early to expect a betting odds for this fight, maybe by December it will be available, so let's just be patient. Besides, we know who to choose and obviously, it's Lomachenko as he is healthy and ready to dominate again.

Usually the odds are listed when the fight is very near, sometimes just a day before the actual fight.

But I do agree that it wll be Loma who will be the favorite here. No offense to Commey, he is a great boxer, become a world champion, but he is no match for Loma at his point. Loma is too versatile and very highly technical boxer. And Commey will look amateurish when he faces Loma.

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So Loma is back after his big win against Nakatani. And then time will be pitted against Richard Commey, a former champion.

Although we can argue that it seems that Loma is just fighting Teo Lopez left-over, but he is doing it more than Lopez though. Lopez has a difficult fight against Nakatani, but Loma just toyed with Nakatani and defeat him via TKO. So the pattern may continue here, I will have Loma winning by stoppage and the fight will not last 12 rounds.


Probably one of the most exciting matches that are still about to happen in this year. A fight of Lomachenko is always beautiful to watch because he is probably the best technical boxer at the moment and his footwork is outstanding and by far the best of any boxer that is active at the moment. That being said he lost a bit of his magic and his aura of being untouchable and unbeatable in his fight against Lopez that he lost quite clearly. I saw that fight back then and i was surprised how inactive Loma was because it looke to me as if he could have done way more during the fight but somehow he could not deliver. I'm glad that he won against Nakatani though and he is also the big favorite against Commey.
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November 04, 2021, 03:53:36 PM
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One last fight for Lomachenko this year, hopefully, he will be able to end it with another win.

This fight will happen in just over a month, so I'm wondering maybe the odds are already out now, anyone here has an idea what's the betting odds of this fight? Obviously, Lomachenko will be the favorites but I like to specifically know how favorite he is based on the line.

anyway, here are some information regarding the fight.
https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-commey/

It's too early to expect a betting odds for this fight, maybe by December it will be available, so let's just be patient. Besides, we know who to choose and obviously, it's Lomachenko as he is healthy and ready to dominate again.

Usually the odds are listed when the fight is very near, sometimes just a day before the actual fight.

But I do agree that it wll be Loma who will be the favorite here. No offense to Commey, he is a great boxer, become a world champion, but he is no match for Loma at his point. Loma is too versatile and very highly technical boxer. And Commey will look amateurish when he faces Loma.

Maybe just before this month ends, or even after couple of weeks from now.
Loma is a known boxer, so high likely sportsbooks will pick this up early.
And yes, Loma will be the favorite here. And the gap of odds maybe a little wide.
For Loma, I am guessing, it will be about 1.x for the odds. So let's see once the bookies rolled out their numbers here for this match.
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November 06, 2021, 03:19:56 AM
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So Loma is back after his big win against Nakatani. And then time will be pitted against Richard Commey, a former champion.

Although we can argue that it seems that Loma is just fighting Teo Lopez left-over, but he is doing it more than Lopez though. Lopez has a difficult fight against Nakatani, but Loma just toyed with Nakatani and defeat him via TKO. So the pattern may continue here, I will have Loma winning by stoppage and the fight will not last 12 rounds.


Probably one of the most exciting matches that are still about to happen in this year. A fight of Lomachenko is always beautiful to watch because he is probably the best technical boxer at the moment and his footwork is outstanding and by far the best of any boxer that is active at the moment. That being said he lost a bit of his magic and his aura of being untouchable and unbeatable in his fight against Lopez that he lost quite clearly. I saw that fight back then and i was surprised how inactive Loma was because it looke to me as if he could have done way more during the fight but somehow he could not deliver. I'm glad that he won against Nakatani though and he is also the big favorite against Commey.

Yes, I also consider him one of the best technical boxers we have right now. Too technical, but you won't get bored on his fight. Because when we say technical fighters like Rigo comes into our mind, or Floyd. Defensive and technical fighter.

But Loma is not that kind of technical fighter, he is more of a defensive one, he is more of a offensive boxer and uses his foot placement to trap his opponents and for sure we are going to see it more here in the Commey fight.

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November 06, 2021, 05:47:50 AM
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Both fighters are still in the prime of their career, and it's a big step back for the loser of this fight, so it's an important fight for both fighters, based on style wins and experience Loma has a big edge over Commey, Comney has problems with fighters who constantly moves and counter punch and Lomachecko is good on both, I don't think he can solve Loma's puzzle.

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Both fighters are still in the prime of their career, and it's a big step back for the loser of this fight, so it's an important fight for both fighters, based on style wins and experience Loma has a big edge over Commey, Comney has problems with fighters who constantly moves and counter punch and Lomachecko is good on both, I don't think he can solve Loma's puzzle.
We haven't seen any fighters who have broke down Loma's technique, although he lost to Lopez, he has a heavy shoulder injury that time. And for the Salido lost, if I'm not mistaken it was his first or second fight of his career and Salido uses bad tactics that time to escape to a win. And I doubt that Commey has the boxing skills to beat a very robotic (in a nice way) Loma. Not sure how Commey will take advantage of his long reach his Loma will time that and he could be hit by a knock out punch.

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November 07, 2021, 08:33:25 PM
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Both fighters are still in the prime of their career, and it's a big step back for the loser of this fight, so it's an important fight for both fighters, based on style wins and experience Loma has a big edge over Commey, Comney has problems with fighters who constantly moves and counter punch and Lomachecko is good on both, I don't think he can solve Loma's puzzle.

And I would also say that Commey has a weak chin as well. Lopez knock him down and put him into queer street because his chin didn't hold.

Loma's power is under rated, but if you look at his last fight, he knocks down a bigger guy in Nakatani. So technique and then the timing and the power favors Loma in this fight.
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

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November 07, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

If Loma will win over Commey, high likelihood that he will ask for Lopez rematch. So in order to make it happen, I am seeing that Loma will not underestimate Commey here even if he is the underdog, as he needs a sure win to get the rematch. This match is still not listed in crypto bookies but if fiat bookies are already starting to give their odds, we may see this in crypto bookies in these coming weeks.
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November 08, 2021, 01:41:21 AM
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

He is already healthy no more effects of that shoulder injury as we have seen that he is back to his old form of being so technical against a bigger Nakatani. He as so impressive that he looks for another match within the year and it will be Richard Commey.

Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

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November 08, 2021, 04:32:03 AM
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Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

Yes, I agree. All these fights for Loma are considered minor ones, the ones he needs to go through to face Teofimo once again. Commey is just one piece of the puzzle, a stepping stone. This is the road to Lopez really. Loma won't allow Lopez to just get away with that. He will definitely have his revenge. Lopez is still the ultimate goal here. But I doubt the result will be any different if Loma will not change his strategy against Lopez. The last time they met, it was very obvious Teofimo was the better boxer.
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November 08, 2021, 06:18:00 AM
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Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too,  but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

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November 08, 2021, 08:18:53 AM
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Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too,  but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

Loma certainly has the edge here, in fact, AFAIR, there's no fight of his that he was an underdog, he always gets listed as the favorite to win, just like this fight. After he lose against Teofimo Lopez, I'm sure he trained harder to continue achieving his dream, and maybe one day he would become an undisputed champion in his division like Canelo had recently achieved.

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November 08, 2021, 08:53:28 AM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

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November 08, 2021, 11:23:29 AM
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

If Loma will win over Commey, high likelihood that he will ask for Lopez rematch. So in order to make it happen, I am seeing that Loma will not underestimate Commey here even if he is the underdog, as he needs a sure win to get the rematch. This match is still not listed in crypto bookies but if fiat bookies are already starting to give their odds, we may see this in crypto bookies in these coming weeks.

Loma would want that rematch or sure, but Lopez seems reluctant and thinks that rematch is not necessary anymore.

This was his statement per this article https://www.boxingscene.com/lopez-on-lomachenko-rematch-what-same-thing-happen-again--152568

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Lopez On Lomachenko Rematch: For What? Same Thing Will Happen Again

He is so sure that he will win, but honestly, I still like to see a rematch and I would definitely bet on a humble fighter and that is not Lopez.

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November 08, 2021, 11:36:30 AM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.

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November 08, 2021, 01:00:46 PM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.
I'm sure that is not the reason, in terms of fight experience, Richard Commey has more because he got 30 fights already in his professional career while Lomachenko only has 15 of half of Richard Commey total fights.

We can check their records ;
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

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November 08, 2021, 02:26:55 PM
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Commey stats are very impressive wins 30 with 27 KO'ed from 33 matches, but looking from which boxer his fight most of them were amateur boxer. The interesting part both of them have fought with Lopez, Lomachenko lost with unanimous decision result while Commey lost got TKO'ed by Lopez in round 2. I think we can draw the conclusion Lomachenko will win this fight, probably 70-85%.

That would probably happen since Loma has already taken the lead by fight experiences. However, slight chances that anything can happen in the ring especially when your opponent can change tactic anytime he feels threatened and distances himself to avoid power punches just like how the fight turned out with Casimero and Rigondeaux where he was nearly defeated by Rigondeaux with his runaway tactic. This could happen to Loma but with other tactics that his opponent has been practising till the fight.
I'm sure that is not the reason, in terms of fight experience, Richard Commey has more because he got 30 fights already in his professional career while Lomachenko only has 15 of half of Richard Commey total fights.

We can check their records ;
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/563751
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

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True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

I just saw this on my feed Teofimo Lopez still consider Loma the best lightweight in the world and he can beat all the top names in the lightweight division, Lopez knows how tough Loma and he is giving him respect and now Commey will find out how great Loma is when they fought, Commey is a huge underdog here even though he is a knock out artist I don't think he can deliver a big punch against Loma.


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True he has more experience as it can be measured by the number of fights, however, the reason why Loma is more popular is because of the quality of fights he had and how he was able to win them. But I would say that Richard Commey has an impressive record as well, 27 KO out of 30 fights, that's something.

I just saw this on my feed Teofimo Lopez still consider Loma the best lightweight in the world and he can beat all the top names in the lightweight division, Lopez knows how tough Loma and he is giving him respect and now Commey will find out how great Loma is when they fought, Commey is a huge underdog here even though he is a knock out artist I don't think he can deliver a big punch against Loma.



That's new from Teofimo Lopez, and him saying that I realized he still thinks that he is better than Loma and probably think also that he can beat the fighters he mentioned in his statement that Loma could beat... I like this guy ( Lopez), he knows how to choose his word, so how about him giving Loma a rematch so he'll be part of the list.

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November 08, 2021, 11:30:07 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

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November 10, 2021, 06:12:07 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Maybe Lopez is waiting for Loma to age, he is already 33 years old, others may say that this is the age wherein boxers started to decline, but there could be argument that he is still in his prime.

So Lopez might be looking at Loma's performance against Commey here, if he sees that Loma is no longer at his peak then maybe he will give him a rematch. Unless the government bodies are going to force Lopez to defend against his mandatory Loma or be strip or his belt.

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November 10, 2021, 06:17:44 PM
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The opening odds are ;

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
Loma and Commey have agreed to a deal to fight on December 11th, after the Heisman Trophy presentation.
At +300, this is only the fourth time in Commey’s career that he’s opened as a betting underdog. He lost the previous three instances.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

If the trend will continue, then most likely Commey will lose and this will be his 4th loss being listed as the underdog in a fight.
Loma is back, that's what I can say because he really look so impressive in his last fight and that's the reason why I like to see him have a rematch with Lopez and I'm pretty sure the outcome would not be the same.

He is already healthy no more effects of that shoulder injury as we have seen that he is back to his old form of being so technical against a bigger Nakatani. He as so impressive that he looks for another match within the year and it will be Richard Commey.

Commey is a decent to good fighter, but he is no much to Loma at this point. Loma is really very focus on regaining all his belts and Commey is just one fighter that he needs to dispose off and then get it all back from Lopez.

In this fight, despite all the efforts, I think that if I would go with the statistics, because I believe that Lomachenko can put up a great fight, if things go well for him and his training I dare to think that he can give him a knockout, it is not for discrediting Commey, but Commey may have some physical deficiencies, that injury can affect him and I understand that injuries in men are quite serious and very difficult to heal at 1005 because it is very easy to get injured again. From my own experience, the shoulders are usually the ones that give strength to the blow, and especially those that give the technique to follow, for this reason it is very important that the shoulders are well and I think that may be the Achilles heel.

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November 10, 2021, 06:44:38 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Maybe Lopez is waiting for Loma to age, he is already 33 years old, others may say that this is the age wherein boxers started to decline, but there could be argument that he is still in his prime.

So Lopez might be looking at Loma's performance against Commey here, if he sees that Loma is no longer at his peak then maybe he will give him a rematch. Unless the government bodies are going to force Lopez to defend against his mandatory Loma or be strip or his belt.
Nah, I think Loma is still in the best years of his boxing career, no way that he is not his prime despite being 33 years old. At that age, Manny Pacquiao is still destroying anyone from 147 lbs.

He just doesn't want to give Loma a rematch, simply at that. Maybe because he is afraid that he will lose this time when Loma is healthy.

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I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko.  

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November 10, 2021, 07:59:04 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

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November 11, 2021, 03:37:22 AM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.

Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.

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November 11, 2021, 08:40:22 PM
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^^ Forget about Lopez for a while, that statement is really full of crap from him.

He is so afraid of a rematch that he is going up to 140 lbs, because for sure that will be too much even for the great Loma to go. He will be too small for that and his body might not react the same (reflex, speed, power). So let's just enjoy Loma vs Commey and how he will break down and destroy a great fighter in Richard Commey.
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November 11, 2021, 09:03:27 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.

Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.

Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.

Personally, I can say that if there's  a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with

a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.

Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for  Smiley
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.

Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.

Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.

Personally, I can say that if there's  a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with

a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.

Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for  Smiley

Of course, money talks but Lopez would also consider his future if he will lose in the rematch. I guess the last time they fought they demanded at least $1 million, so I think it will be bigger if they'll fight for a rematch and probably he will also get a big slice of the pie on the sharing of revenue which might not be easy to agreen upon between promoters and boxers.

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Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.

Personally, I can say that if there's  a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with

a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.

Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for  Smiley

And if ever there might be a rematch that would happen between Lopez and Loma most probably the good words from Lopez to Loma will definitely became a trash talk, well a mantra of a fighter is throwing words against each other which I think one of the way of the fighters and the boxing management too to hype the game. For now let's not focus on what Lopez have had spoke because this time is the time for Lomachenko and Commey to prove which fighter will going to be the last stand on their upcoming fight.
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November 12, 2021, 03:57:19 AM
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I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko. 

Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

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November 12, 2021, 08:02:31 AM
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Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
I don't think the bookies can freely to adjust the odds whatever they want, it's all based on the traffic and volume from the bettors. The more people bets, the lower odds will be and vice versa. Mostly they made profit from people who lose the bets and internal fees.

The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
There's no reason to watch him, many people already expect Fury will KO'ed Paul less than round 4. If Paul win then it's scripted Tongue

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November 12, 2021, 08:45:05 AM
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I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko.  

Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
Bookies have punters to make the odds for them, they can't simply manipulate it to be in their favor. From Vegas to fiat bookies to illegal bookies, everything should be in the norm. Otherwise it will raise a red flag and it might be a reason for investigations, although for crypto bookies we don't know who will do it but so far all reputable sports bookies doesn't have this case of manipulating the odds or something like that. They can make some adjustments, but if you are going to compare them to any other sports bookies the odds are going to be close enough.

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November 12, 2021, 09:56:42 PM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.

Of course. Because we have here two professional champions and in case of Paul - we have a match to make money (for sponsors and for those who will fight)

In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I think that favour is on  Lomachenko side. My IMHO. (more like my hope, because  Lomachenko is slav  Grin )

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November 13, 2021, 08:24:24 PM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.

Of course, you can't compare the two fights, this is real boxing. And we have the great Loma, one of the best pound for pound.

In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.
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November 13, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.

No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.

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November 13, 2021, 08:48:16 PM
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Wasn't Nicholas Walters a knockout artist and could not land nothing being heavy handed is one thing but you gotta land. I only see teo land body shots and he hits like a mule to I got Loma on points but you never know in boxing. Hopefully Loma gets his rematch with Lopez. Man, I never heard that comment from Lopez after the Nakatani fight only picking fighters his height.

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November 13, 2021, 08:55:12 PM
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Wasn't Nicholas Walters a knockout artist and could not land nothing being heavy handed is one thing but you gotta land. I only see teo land body shots and he hits like a mule to I got Loma on points but you never know in boxing. Hopefully Loma gets his rematch with Lopez. Man, I never heard that comment from Lopez after the Nakatani fight only picking fighters his height.

That's true, Walters knockout Donaire, but he can't land a single blow against Loma and then quit on his stool, Lol. A power puncher who says 'no mas' to the great Loma because he is frustrated.

The Lopez fight is very different though, now we understand why Loma fight very odd against Lopez is because he had that shoulder injury.

Lopez said he doesn't want to fight taller fighters no more like Nakatani. But look at what Loma did to Nakatani when they fought.
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November 13, 2021, 09:20:42 PM
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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.

No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.

Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

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November 13, 2021, 09:50:56 PM
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they are both equally strong enough but there is something in common here that they have been defeated by the same boxer.
but on the other hand Loma wanted to regain the position he had left before.
but on the other hand at this time his body condition was not too fit before, especially when he had experienced an injury that was enough to make him have to rest for a while and of course this would make his performance a little less than usual.

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November 13, 2021, 09:56:44 PM
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Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

He is good at making an adjustment in the fight, so he could do it but let's not be too complacent as Commey also has the experience, and in fact, he has more fights and his KO ratio is also good. I understand how people believe so much in Loma to win again, but as for me, I already have a little doubt on him unless he'll beat Teofimo Lopez in a rematch.
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November 14, 2021, 06:20:04 AM
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Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too,  but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

Loma certainly has the edge here, in fact, AFAIR, there's no fight of his that he was an underdog, he always gets listed as the favorite to win, just like this fight. After he lose against Teofimo Lopez, I'm sure he trained harder to continue achieving his dream, and maybe one day he would become an undisputed champion in his division like Canelo had recently achieved.

Yup, Lomachenko is indeed a crowd favorite and @Finestream is right, Commey will just be probably a stepping stone for Loma to advance and can have a rematch against Lopez after this since Loma can't forget that he underwent a shoulder surgery after that fight and lose via unanimous decision.
But we'll see how Loma will fight this December 11 after that said surgery, hopefully he's fully recovered now and can fight again well.

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November 14, 2021, 06:59:48 AM
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Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

He is good at making an adjustment in the fight, so he could do it but let's not be too complacent as Commey also has the experience, and in fact, he has more fights and his KO ratio is also good. I understand how people believe so much in Loma to win again, but as for me, I already have a little doubt on him unless he'll beat Teofimo Lopez in a rematch.

There's always this puncher's chance so yes, we don't count out Commey yet. He is a former champion, fought many great boxers in the past and has power.

But Loma is far more superior than any fighter in this division in my opinion. Loma's only lost in to Lopez but then again he was shoulder injury that time. But we can't do anything, and as much as we want to see a good rematch fight, Lopez refuses it and instead, go for his mandatory fight.

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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

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November 14, 2021, 10:19:52 AM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

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November 14, 2021, 10:23:52 AM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

That was a similar comment I read when Loma face Lopez, people thought that Loma would actually beat Lopez but what happened is the exact opposite of what the majority of people are thinking.  This is a big test for Loma, if he'll win this fight, then for sure he will get a chance to have a rematch against Lopez which I'm pretty sure will be one of the biggest fights next year, or the winner of the Lopez vs Kambasos Jr.

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November 14, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
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Loma is a intelligent fighter, if he was able to defeats nakatami in their last  fight that was very tense then I can predict he may win this fight coming up , he is a fighter with good strategy and much strength.
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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.

No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.

You've said it already, Loma is injured that time. Yes, I believed that everyone has weakness, but if you're opponent doesn't know how to exploit it then it will negate everything. Commey is a pure boxer, as you can see in his records, his ko % is higher than Loma, meaning he always goes for a knock out. However, if that plan didn't happen, it's hard to have another option against a great techinical boxer in Loma here. Obviously, Loma will be the huge favorite when the betting line open.
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November 14, 2021, 07:49:47 PM
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So 2 fights this year for Lomachenko? indeed he might be thinking of regaining his previous position in the p2p lists. And it's a tough comeback road for him, but he is not taking it a lightly after that shoulder injury that causes him the title against Lopez. All roads though seems lead to Teofimo Lopez, so if he wanted to get his rematch, he has to do it the hard way. And I will go with the popular opinion here that Loma is going to win, maybe we just have to wait for the bookies to open up and see the odds.


If he wants to make a comeback then he has no other option to but to begin to fight more frequently, however it is yet to be seen if Teofimo Lopez will give him a chance, it seems they have personal problems that go beyond the ring as Teofimo accused the camp of Lomachenko of being disrespectful to him.

But in the case it happens Lomachenko will need to increase the amount of punches he throws as during their last fight Teofimo Lopez threw more than twice the number of punches he threw.

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November 14, 2021, 08:18:50 PM
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So 2 fights this year for Lomachenko? indeed he might be thinking of regaining his previous position in the p2p lists. And it's a tough comeback road for him, but he is not taking it a lightly after that shoulder injury that causes him the title against Lopez. All roads though seems lead to Teofimo Lopez, so if he wanted to get his rematch, he has to do it the hard way. And I will go with the popular opinion here that Loma is going to win, maybe we just have to wait for the bookies to open up and see the odds.


If he wants to make a comeback then he has no other option to but to begin to fight more frequently, however it is yet to be seen if Teofimo Lopez will give him a chance, it seems they have personal problems that go beyond the ring as Teofimo accused the camp of Lomachenko of being disrespectful to him.

But in the case it happens Lomachenko will need to increase the amount of punches he throws as during their last fight Teofimo Lopez threw more than twice the number of punches he threw.

He has been fighting more frequently, he just beat Nakatani like 6 months ago if I'm not mistaken.

And then he is facing another great boxer and former champion in Richard Commey here. So there's no question that Loma is the more active fighter for this year. And has face the better opposition (although Lopez beat both of them already, but he has a hard time against a tall Nakatani. While Loma just toyed around and then knock out Nakatani).

We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..
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November 14, 2021, 08:43:47 PM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

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November 14, 2021, 08:52:02 PM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

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November 14, 2021, 09:06:27 PM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

As of now, Lopez has close his book for a possible rematch with Loma, but hopefully next year he will change his mind, of if he loses this fight, maybe Kambasos vs Loma would be great just to fulfill the excitement of the fans. If Loma wins, then that would close the discussion that he is the better fighter.

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Commey is a pure boxer, as you can see in his records, his ko % is higher than Loma, meaning he always goes for a knock out. However, if that plan didn't happen, it's hard to have another option against a great techinical boxer in Loma here. Obviously, Loma will be the huge favorite when the betting line open.
I am yet to watch a Richard Commey fight, since you said he is having more knockouts than decisions, i just check his profile, he has 27 KO in 30 fights, so he is a power puncher than a pure boxer. I like the fighting style of Vasiliy Lomachenko and he is a technical master and i am sure he can handle the power of Commey with his slick boxing and then go for a rematch against Teófimo López.
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

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November 15, 2021, 10:05:27 AM
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.
Yes, I don't see any wild swing in the odds as we near the fight and that odds could remain. On the contrary, maybe after the weigh-in, we might see the odds for Loma shrink.

Loma is healthy, no doubt that his shoulder injury has healed 100%. We can see a Loma back to his former when he fought Nakatani the movement and the punch output is already there.

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November 15, 2021, 11:55:29 AM
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.
Yes, I don't see any wild swing in the odds as we near the fight and that odds could remain. On the contrary, maybe after the weigh-in, we might see the odds for Loma shrink.

Loma is healthy, no doubt that his shoulder injury has healed 100%. We can see a Loma back to his former when he fought Nakatani the movement and the punch output is already there.

After an impressive performance by Loma in his last fight, there's a reason why the bookies would make him a heavy favorite. People would just bet on Loma and that's the reason why bookies are just trying to balance the money since one needs to put a bigger bet in order to enjoy a decent profit, hence taking a high risk as well.

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November 15, 2021, 02:57:42 PM
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This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.
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November 16, 2021, 12:40:43 PM
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If he was injured, he should have postponed the fight. Or take a risk and try to knockdown Lopez. Imho it was Lomachenko fault, that he let judges decide who is the winner. Btw, in wikipedia it is mentioned, that Lomachenko did not want to put a rematch clause in contract. That s why Lopez is so angry and dont want to give Lomachenko rematch. "Eye for an eye". Loma must do his best to get a chance to fight Lopez again.

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November 16, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
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If he was injured, he should have postponed the fight. Or take a risk and try to knockdown Lopez. Imho it was Lomachenko fault, that he let judges decide who is the winner. Btw, in wikipedia it is mentioned, that Lomachenko did not want to put a rematch clause in contract. That s why Lopez is so angry and dont want to give Lomachenko rematch. "Eye for an eye". Loma must do his best to get a chance to fight Lopez again.

He should but he prefer not to cancel the fight because probably he needed some money and that was a big fight although it was held during the pandemic. All these although could be true are just an excuse only, a real fighter should accept his defeat without an excuses as that's the way to respect the winner of the fight.

SO WORD IS LOMACHENKO CAME IN TO THE LOPEZ FIGHT WITH A BAD SHOULDER

We need to see the rematch so people will stop taking that as an excuse on what they still believe that Loma is better than Lopez.

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November 16, 2021, 02:20:23 PM
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This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

We are not sure if the fight will happen of the winner between Lopez and Kambosos and Loma vs Commey.

As others have said, Lopez doesn't want to give Loma a rematch and Lopez hinted in his interview that he might go to 140 lbs and have a superfight with Josh Taylor, the unified champion.

Lopez is chasing big fights and that's what he wanted. Though if the offer for a Loma rematch will be huge, maybe he can't refuse it.

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November 16, 2021, 11:14:56 PM
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This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

We are not sure if the fight will happen of the winner between Lopez and Kambosos and Loma vs Commey.

As others have said, Lopez doesn't want to give Loma a rematch and Lopez hinted in his interview that he might go to 140 lbs and have a superfight with Josh Taylor, the unified champion.

Lopez is chasing big fights and that's what he wanted. Though if the offer for a Loma rematch will be huge, maybe he can't refuse it.

Well a Josh Taylor fight at 140 lbs makes sense, Lopez will make history and then there will be a lot of money in the table for Lopez.

And it's easy to made since Taylor sign with Bob Arum prior to his unification fight with Jose Ramirez.

But boxing wise, there's a lot of unfinished business in this division, Garcia, Davis and Haney to name a few and then a rematch with Loma is also good for this career, money wise.

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November 17, 2021, 05:41:21 AM
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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

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November 17, 2021, 11:43:11 AM
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.... of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.
Do you mean Loma? Well, he would like a rematch but Lopez is not interested anymore, so there's nothing he can do but to find another opponent and keep winning and hope that maybe one day if Lopez keeps winning too they will meet again.

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November 17, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

Perhaps, but you know what, they are asking about $1m in the fight against Loma, but Loma doesn't want to give them to them. Not sure if the $1m had been given coming from Bob's purse personally.

But in any case, Loma really leave a bad taste from the Lopez's that's why when Teofimo beat him, they refuses any talk of a rematch.

But we all know that boxing is a business and everyone has a price, if he will be offered more money in the table, then maybe he will change his mind and will give Loma his rematch.
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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

Perhaps, but you know what, they are asking about $1m in the fight against Loma, but Loma doesn't want to give them to them. Not sure if the $1m had been given coming from Bob's purse personally.

But in any case, Loma really leave a bad taste from the Lopez's that's why when Teofimo beat him, they refuses any talk of a rematch.

But we all know that boxing is a business and everyone has a price, if he will be offered more money in the table, then maybe he will change his mind and will give Loma his rematch.

If they'll do a rematch, it will be Lopez who will dictate the terms as he is in the place of Loma now when they first meet, and if Loma is really interested to redeem himself, he should accept even if the offer is low because if he wins the fight, that would lose the value of Lopez and he'll be at the top again.

People are still asking to see a rematch, they should give it a chance of happening for the sake of the fans.

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November 17, 2021, 02:14:23 PM
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If they'll do a rematch, it will be Lopez who will dictate the terms as he is in the place of Loma now when they first meet, and if Loma is really interested to redeem himself, he should accept even if the offer is low because if he wins the fight, that would lose the value of Lopez and he'll be at the top again.

People are still asking to see a rematch, they should give it a chance of happening for the sake of the fans.

Possible when they run out of opponents and beat everyone on their way to fight each other. Of course, the fans wanted to see the fight between them again to give Loma a chance to redeem himself and so that Lopez will prove to everyone that he is the best in their division. But as we know, it's all up to Lopez if he still wanted to gamble his record since he is already done with Loma.

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November 17, 2021, 07:32:46 PM
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

The odds will not change much as Vasiliy Lomachenko is the favorite in this fight and everybody understands it. I think that we will see the first knockout in 6-7 rounds, and after it the fight will end with knockout. As I already wrote this fight is a good one to almost risklessly increase your bet by 15%.

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November 17, 2021, 09:41:15 PM
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

The odds will not change much as Vasiliy Lomachenko is the favorite in this fight and everybody understands it. I think that we will see the first knockout in 6-7 rounds, and after it the fight will end with knockout. As I already wrote this fight is a good one to almost risklessly increase your bet by 15%.

Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

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November 18, 2021, 02:35:25 AM
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^^ Yeah, a ML bet fo Loma here will yield you small win unless you bet 6 digits minimum.

But for us mere mortals and average bettors, it's not possible.

What we want is at least a better odds for us, like KO win, or which round Loma will stop Commey and score the knock down.

There's also the round range which also gives us a good return odds. So just be smart when we bet and for sure we will win some at the end of the day.

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November 18, 2021, 07:46:35 AM
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Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us is the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.
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November 18, 2021, 09:30:26 AM
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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.

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November 18, 2021, 10:46:25 AM
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Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us are the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

I'm also in favor of Loma because I've seen and watched his previous fights and I must say that he's too unpredictable on the right because he has surprising moves. It seems like he studied hard to counter his opponent's punches. I'm still rooting for him this time.
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November 18, 2021, 11:13:51 AM
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Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us are the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

I'm also in favor of Loma because I've seen and watched his previous fights and I must say that he's too unpredictable on the right because he has surprising moves. It seems like he studied hard to counter his opponent's punches. I'm still rooting for him this time.

You are obviously, but will you bet for Loma to win with lower odds?

As posted above, the odds was just around 1.15 and that means you'll risk $100 to win $15 only? does not feel reasonable for you?

In my case, I would not take the ML, instead, I'll look for other odds which should be higher than 1.89.

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November 18, 2021, 12:47:13 PM
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Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us are the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

I'm also in favor of Loma because I've seen and watched his previous fights and I must say that he's too unpredictable on the right because he has surprising moves. It seems like he studied hard to counter his opponent's punches. I'm still rooting for him this time.

You are obviously, but will you bet for Loma to win with lower odds?

As posted above, the odds was just around 1.15 and that means you'll risk $100 to win $15 only? does not feel reasonable for you?

In my case, I would not take the ML, instead, I'll look for other odds which should be higher than 1.89.

I would not bet with that odds because I have a limited bankroll only.

Although Loma is likely to win it's not guaranteed that he will win, maybe give the underdog some handicap so odds we can get decent odds. A $15  win from $100 bet, but a $1500 win from $10,000 is very attractive, however, not most of us can afford to risk that amount.

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November 18, 2021, 12:58:28 PM
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Odds seems to be in favour of the local guy, if you can call anyone local from NY. Vasyl, the Ucranian guy is a strong candidate and much harder in my view than others that have tried to get the title before, but beating a Japanese boxer is not really a credential is it? Richard Comey is at an advantage, at least psychological by playing in the US. And despite all that, still betting on Loma makes sense at current odds, as they seem to be too far on Richard's side. 

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November 18, 2021, 07:43:03 PM
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Why would you bet on ML for Loma?

Doesn't make sense as he is the favourite to win against Commey, but there is still an element of surprise by the chance is very very slim against a technical boxer like Loma.

So the best odds for us is the totals maybe or the handicap, (which round it is going to end), or maybe the odds for a Loma decision win is also very good.

If you are aiming for higher odds picking the decision or which rounds the fight might end is a good alternative, though like what you just said, surprise might also happened, we don't know the very outcome and those who are in favor of Commey will bet for him no matter what, if they win the odds will probably give them bigger money to take.

If they lose, it's their choice to play with their cards, it's just not the lucky day for them Roll Eyes and those who have huge amount to stake ML is still good small odd with huge amount of stake still considerable winnings. Cool

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November 19, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

As of now, Lopez has close his book for a possible rematch with Loma, but hopefully next year he will change his mind, of if he loses this fight, maybe Kambasos vs Loma would be great just to fulfill the excitement of the fans. If Loma wins, then that would close the discussion that he is the better fighter.

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This is why I think it is going to be difficult to see that fight, I really do not think that Lopez is tying to avoid Lomachenko, we know that fighters say a lot of things to try to hype up the fight but as soon as it is over they give each other a hug and then they give praise to their opponent on the post-fight interviews.

However it seems to me the problems of Lopez and Lomachenko are real and this means Lopez will do everything he can to not give Lomachenko a chance at challenging him for his titles.

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November 19, 2021, 09:47:43 PM
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Odds seems to be in favour of the local guy, if you can call anyone local from NY. Vasyl, the Ucranian guy is a strong candidate and much harder in my view than others that have tried to get the title before, but beating a Japanese boxer is not really a credential is it? Richard Comey is at an advantage, at least psychological by playing in the US. And despite all that, still betting on Loma makes sense at current odds, as they seem to be too far on Richard's side. 
Whether where Loma will fight, he will always be the favorite to win, and it's not new to him fighting in the US as majority of his fights happen in the US, we can check his full fight records here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771.

As per record, Commey has the experience and that is his only advantage as far as I can see, so I'm not surprised that Loma here is a heavy favorite.

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/

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November 20, 2021, 05:36:01 AM
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Odds seems to be in favour of the local guy, if you can call anyone local from NY. Vasyl, the Ucranian guy is a strong candidate and much harder in my view than others that have tried to get the title before, but beating a Japanese boxer is not really a credential is it? Richard Comey is at an advantage, at least psychological by playing in the US. And despite all that, still betting on Loma makes sense at current odds, as they seem to be too far on Richard's side. 
Whether where Loma will fight, he will always be the favorite to win, and it's not new to him fighting in the US as majority of his fights happen in the US, we can check his full fight records here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771.

As per record, Commey has the experience and that is his only advantage as far as I can see, so I'm not surprised that Loma here is a heavy favorite.

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/
True, although Loma is not stateside, Arum was able to bring his talent to the US soil and boy we did witnessed one of the greatest amateur turn into professional and become of the boxing greats in recent time.

So there is no surprised that he is the heavy favorite here against Commey, although RC is also a former world champion, but the A-side of this fight is still Loma.

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November 20, 2021, 09:09:48 AM
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Odds seems to be in favour of the local guy, if you can call anyone local from NY. Vasyl, the Ucranian guy is a strong candidate and much harder in my view than others that have tried to get the title before, but beating a Japanese boxer is not really a credential is it? Richard Comey is at an advantage, at least psychological by playing in the US. And despite all that, still betting on Loma makes sense at current odds, as they seem to be too far on Richard's side. 
Whether where Loma will fight, he will always be the favorite to win, and it's not new to him fighting in the US as majority of his fights happen in the US, we can check his full fight records here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771.

As per record, Commey has the experience and that is his only advantage as far as I can see, so I'm not surprised that Loma here is a heavy favorite.

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Vasyl Lomachenko has opened as the -400 betting favorite against Richard Commey.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/sportsbooks-install-vasyl-lomachenko-as-heavy-betting-favorite-against-richard-commey/
True, although Loma is not stateside, Arum was able to bring his talent to the US soil and boy we did witnessed one of the greatest amateur turn into professional and become of the boxing greats in recent time.

So there is no surprised that he is the heavy favorite here against Commey, although RC is also a former world champion, but the A-side of this fight is still Loma.

Arum knows how to build up a fighter, although sometimes he really cherry pick the opponent of his cash cow to make them look great, like in Manny Pacquiao, he has this uncanny ability to bring other nationalities in the US and make them a name.

And as far as I can remember, Loma did fight for a belt in his 3rd fight, that's how good Loma really is, coming from the amateur and then going pro and winning a belt in fewer fights.
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November 20, 2021, 01:13:11 PM
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This is why I think it is going to be difficult to see that fight, I really do not think that Lopez is tying to avoid Lomachenko, we know that fighters say a lot of things to try to hype up the fight but as soon as it is over they give each other a hug and then they give praise to their opponent on the post-fight interviews.

However it seems to me the problems of Lopez and Lomachenko are real and this means Lopez will do everything he can to not give Lomachenko a chance at challenging him for his titles.

Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.

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November 20, 2021, 01:19:02 PM
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This is why I think it is going to be difficult to see that fight, I really do not think that Lopez is tying to avoid Lomachenko, we know that fighters say a lot of things to try to hype up the fight but as soon as it is over they give each other a hug and then they give praise to their opponent on the post-fight interviews.

However it seems to me the problems of Lopez and Lomachenko are real and this means Lopez will do everything he can to not give Lomachenko a chance at challenging him for his titles.

Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.

He needs to take care of Kambasos first, he should not underestimate his opponent now because Kambasos has not experienced a loss in his career yet. Most likely if Lopez will win, he will move up in weight as he does not want to give Loma a chance for a rematch, he already stated that in the past.



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November 23, 2021, 11:42:54 AM
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Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.

Canelo avoided GGG for a third fight for a very long period of time and feels rather comfortable. More than 3 years has passed and 2 point advantage does not look like a strong statement that Canelo is better than GGG. Canelo say that he is not interested in fighting someone he has already beat. Same could do Lopez. I am not sure that GGG really insisted on a third fight, but I also dont remember Lomachenko immediately asking for a rematch.

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November 23, 2021, 12:09:10 PM
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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.

Well if that's your technique, I have nothing against it, every bettor just has a different technique in calculating the risk. A bettor like me loves to take a high risk with a low bet, that way I don't feel so much affected when I lose and I will have a lot of fun if I win. In the end, we all make a guess because no one can predict the right outcome all the time.

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November 23, 2021, 02:04:11 PM
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This is why I think it is going to be difficult to see that fight, I really do not think that Lopez is tying to avoid Lomachenko, we know that fighters say a lot of things to try to hype up the fight but as soon as it is over they give each other a hug and then they give praise to their opponent on the post-fight interviews.

However it seems to me the problems of Lopez and Lomachenko are real and this means Lopez will do everything he can to not give Lomachenko a chance at challenging him for his titles.

Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.

He needs to take care of Kambasos first, he should not underestimate his opponent now because Kambasos has not experienced a loss in his career yet. Most likely if Lopez will win, he will move up in weight as he does not want to give Loma a chance for a rematch, he already stated that in the past.


He commended Loma but he doesn't want to face him and the option he have is to move up to avoid the fight,

It's not new if ever since Alvarez also doing the same, he already move to upper weight and challenge new face fighter.

If Lopez will move up there's no way for them to bring the entertainment fans wanted to see, it's in the hands of Lopez and his camp to

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November 24, 2021, 04:36:00 AM
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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.

Well if that's your technique, I have nothing against it, every bettor just has a different technique in calculating the risk. A bettor like me loves to take a high risk with a low bet, that way I don't feel so much affected when I lose and I will have a lot of fun if I win. In the end, we all make a guess because no one can predict the right outcome all the time.


I think you are not the only one who loves to bet on the underdog or at least take big risk in this fight. A ML won give us anything, unless you really have a deep pocket and bet on Loma with that small odds.

But majority will think otherwise, will look for high risk low bet reward and it's much more fulfilling if you are going to hit that huge odds. And even if we lose, if just a small bet anyways so we can live with it and gamble on the next boxing match.

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November 24, 2021, 01:21:57 PM
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Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.

Canelo avoided GGG for a third fight for a very long period of time and feels rather comfortable. More than 3 years has passed and 2 point advantage does not look like a strong statement that Canelo is better than GGG. Canelo say that he is not interested in fighting someone he has already beat. Same could do Lopez. I am not sure that GGG really insisted on a third fight, but I also dont remember Lomachenko immediately asking for a rematch.

Maybe he feels comfortable, but nevertheless, you remember that he is not particularly eager to show his undeniable superiority (which he supposedly has) in the third fight. In addition, after all, this is a different situation - the boxers have already fought two fights and Golovkin had two chances to win, but he could not take advantage of them.

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November 24, 2021, 01:33:27 PM
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Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.

Canelo avoided GGG for a third fight for a very long period of time and feels rather comfortable. More than 3 years has passed and 2 point advantage does not look like a strong statement that Canelo is better than GGG. Canelo say that he is not interested in fighting someone he has already beat. Same could do Lopez. I am not sure that GGG really insisted on a third fight, but I also dont remember Lomachenko immediately asking for a rematch.

Maybe he feels comfortable, but nevertheless, you remember that he is not particularly eager to show his undeniable superiority (which he supposedly has) in the third fight. In addition, after all, this is a different situation - the boxers have already fought two fights and Golovkin had two chances to win, but he could not take advantage of them.

Canelo won their last fight by Majority Decision, though he prove that he is the better fighter between the two but you can't blame the fans of asking a trilogy because by far, that was the best fight of Canelo where he has an opponent that has a chance to beat him.

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November 24, 2021, 06:13:07 PM
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Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.

Canelo avoided GGG for a third fight for a very long period of time and feels rather comfortable. More than 3 years has passed and 2 point advantage does not look like a strong statement that Canelo is better than GGG. Canelo say that he is not interested in fighting someone he has already beat. Same could do Lopez. I am not sure that GGG really insisted on a third fight, but I also dont remember Lomachenko immediately asking for a rematch.

Maybe he feels comfortable, but nevertheless, you remember that he is not particularly eager to show his undeniable superiority (which he supposedly has) in the third fight. In addition, after all, this is a different situation - the boxers have already fought two fights and Golovkin had two chances to win, but he could not take advantage of them.

Canelo won their last fight by Majority Decision, though he prove that he is the better fighter between the two but you can't blame the fans of asking a trilogy because by far, that was the best fight of Canelo where he has an opponent that has a chance to beat him.
Yes, it's a majority decision but there was one judge who score the fight a draw 114-114. So it was really very close contest between the two, and we all know that the first fight was a draw. So by far, he maybe the winner of the fight between the two, but majority of the boxing fans still not convince that Canelo won  because of how the way it was scored so we want a trilogy which Canelo doesn't want to give GGG. So there's still a lot of questions on our mind.

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Yes, it's a majority decision but there was one judge who score the fight a draw 114-114. So it was really very close contest between the two, and we all know that the first fight was a draw. So by far, he maybe the winner of the fight between the two, but majority of the boxing fans still not convince that Canelo won  because of how the way it was scored so we want a trilogy which Canelo doesn't want to give GGG. So there's still a lot of questions on our mind.

Canelo decide not to give that trilogy to GGG but instead he went up to another division chasing his fate to get another belt from different weight instead of favoring what fans are asking for him, personally, if the trilogy will take place the amount of possible profits is far better than how much he will earned from his upcoming fight.

There are many fans who continue to believe that GGG can beat him and regain the title.  Roll Eyes Cool

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November 24, 2021, 09:35:01 PM
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Yes, it's a majority decision but there was one judge who score the fight a draw 114-114. So it was really very close contest between the two, and we all know that the first fight was a draw. So by far, he maybe the winner of the fight between the two, but majority of the boxing fans still not convince that Canelo won  because of how the way it was scored so we want a trilogy which Canelo doesn't want to give GGG. So there's still a lot of questions on our mind.

Canelo decide not to give that trilogy to GGG but instead he went up to another division chasing his fate to get another belt from different weight instead of favoring what fans are asking for him, personally, if the trilogy will take place the amount of possible profits is far better than how much he will earned from his upcoming fight.

There are many fans who continue to believe that GGG can beat him and regain the title.  Roll Eyes Cool

Exactly, but Canelo sees the possibility that he might lose based on the last two fights these two met in the ring. Let's just respect the decision of Canelo but also remain optimistic that one day his mind will change and will give the fans an opportunity to see them fight again, I mean that should be another epic fight and everyone will be watching it, for sure.

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This is annoying, one of my favourite fighters in boxing, along with Tyson Fury, and it clashes with one of the best UFC nights in recent memory. I'll probably be watching dual screen on December the 11th. Why don't boxing organizers, and UFC organizers work together, and avoid putting big fighters on a night where the other has big fighters fighting too?

Surely, it would benefit them to have as much viewership as possible, so organizing it for another day would be better.

Exactly, but Canelo sees the possibility that he might lose based on the last two fights these two met in the ring. Let's just respect the decision of Canelo but also remain optimistic that one day his mind will change and will give the fans an opportunity to see them fight again, I mean that should be another epic fight and everyone will be watching it, for sure.
I'm not sure how popular of an opinion this is, but I wasn't overly impressed with Cancelo last going out against Plant, I thought up until the TKO he looked rather lackluster. He was winning the majoirty of the rounds, but certainly wasn't at his best. So, I would say it would be a legitimate concern he would lose the third fight.
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Yes, it's a majority decision but there was one judge who score the fight a draw 114-114. So it was really very close contest between the two, and we all know that the first fight was a draw. So by far, he maybe the winner of the fight between the two, but majority of the boxing fans still not convince that Canelo won  because of how the way it was scored so we want a trilogy which Canelo doesn't want to give GGG. So there's still a lot of questions on our mind.

Canelo decide not to give that trilogy to GGG but instead he went up to another division chasing his fate to get another belt from different weight instead of favoring what fans are asking for him, personally, if the trilogy will take place the amount of possible profits is far better than how much he will earned from his upcoming fight.

There are many fans who continue to believe that GGG can beat him and regain the title.  Roll Eyes Cool
For a moment I thought I was on the wrong thread as there is a lot of posts going about Canelo despite this thread being about another fight, however I think Canelo more than anything is chasing the money rather than avoiding GGG at this point, at least in the US the heavier divisions are the most popular, this is why when there are no good fighters on the heavyweight division the popularity of boxing goes down dramatically at the US, so Canelo is seeing an opportunity to make more money while at the same time he thinks he can dominate the division without Usyk there.
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November 25, 2021, 08:56:35 AM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.
Because Lopez really knew that Loma isn't like the average fighter that he faced before, he also knew that he just luckily won by a small gap in score.
Maybe Lopez thinks that why would he fight Loma again (lame excuse), I defeat him already. We'll see it next year, chances that there will be a Loma vs Lopez 2 if Loma can eventually get this match in his favor.

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November 25, 2021, 09:05:42 AM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.
Because Lopez really knew that Loma isn't like the average fighter that he faced before, he also knew that he just luckily won by a small gap in score.
Maybe Lopez thinks that why would he fight Loma again (lame excuse), I defeat him already. We'll see it next year, chances that there will be a Loma vs Lopez 2 if Loma can eventually get this match in his favor.

Hopefully if both fighters won their respective fights, and Lopez didn't go up to 140 lbs and then the rest of the 135 lbs is busy fighting each other, maybe there's no other way for Lopez but to give Loma a rematch.

But it will still depends on how much the money will be on the table. His father is really looking for big fights for his son and obviously, this is their goal when they upset Loma. His fight with Kambosos Jr though, he will be getting a small chunk of money. So maybe a Loma rematch will happen if they are going to be offered by Arum big money.
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November 25, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
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Exactly, but Canelo sees the possibility that he might lose based on the last two fights these two met in the ring. Let's just respect the decision of Canelo but also remain optimistic that one day his mind will change and will give the fans an opportunity to see them fight again, I mean that should be another epic fight and everyone will be watching it, for sure.
I'm not sure how popular of an opinion this is, but I wasn't overly impressed with Cancelo last going out against Plant, I thought up until the TKO he looked rather lackluster. He was winning the majoirty of the rounds, but certainly wasn't at his best. So, I would say it would be a legitimate concern he would lose the third fight.
He bet Plant and that's the most important, if Plant were also thinking of winning, he could be more aggressive, but no, instead he was just fighting to survive. What I want to see is the fight that Canelo had some trouble, and that is the fight against GGG, a trilogy fight.

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This is why I think it is going to be difficult to see that fight, I really do not think that Lopez is tying to avoid Lomachenko, we know that fighters say a lot of things to try to hype up the fight but as soon as it is over they give each other a hug and then they give praise to their opponent on the post-fight interviews.

However it seems to me the problems of Lopez and Lomachenko are real and this means Lopez will do everything he can to not give Lomachenko a chance at challenging him for his titles.

Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.
I agree that it does not look good however it does not mean that it cannot be done, we have seen something similar many times before, so unless Lomachenko can establish himself as the number one ranked challenger then it could pass a lot of time before he can get another shot with Lopez above the ring.

And as you stated if this is personal, and I have every reason to think this is the case, then Lopez could move up a division out of spite, that way Lomachenko will have no way to avenge the defeat he suffered at the hands of Lopez.

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November 25, 2021, 09:14:46 PM
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This is why I think it is going to be difficult to see that fight, I really do not think that Lopez is tying to avoid Lomachenko, we know that fighters say a lot of things to try to hype up the fight but as soon as it is over they give each other a hug and then they give praise to their opponent on the post-fight interviews.

However it seems to me the problems of Lopez and Lomachenko are real and this means Lopez will do everything he can to not give Lomachenko a chance at challenging him for his titles.

Lopez's only chance of avoiding a rematch is to move to a different weight class. If he does not do this, then sooner or later he will be forced to enter this fight or give up the belt. In addition, such avoidance of a strong opponent is always bad for a boxer's reputation, and should not be abused.
I agree that it does not look good however it does not mean that it cannot be done, we have seen something similar many times before, so unless Lomachenko can establish himself as the number one ranked challenger then it could pass a lot of time before he can get another shot with Lopez above the ring.

And as you stated if this is personal, and I have every reason to think this is the case, then Lopez could move up a division out of spite, that way Lomachenko will have no way to avenge the defeat he suffered at the hands of Lopez.

The fact that the fans are wanting to see a rematch, means they see it as a good fight and they still believe that Loma could come back and beat Lopez. If Lopez really is into real challenges and to make decent money, then why not take the rematch and proved to the fans once again that he is the better fighter.

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Yes, it's a majority decision but there was one judge who score the fight a draw 114-114. So it was really very close contest between the two, and we all know that the first fight was a draw. So by far, he maybe the winner of the fight between the two, but majority of the boxing fans still not convince that Canelo won  because of how the way it was scored so we want a trilogy which Canelo doesn't want to give GGG. So there's still a lot of questions on our mind.

Canelo decide not to give that trilogy to GGG but instead he went up to another division chasing his fate to get another belt from different weight instead of favoring what fans are asking for him, personally, if the trilogy will take place the amount of possible profits is far better than how much he will earned from his upcoming fight.

There are many fans who continue to believe that GGG can beat him and regain the title.  Roll Eyes Cool
For a moment I thought I was on the wrong thread as there is a lot of posts going about Canelo despite this thread being about another fight, however I think Canelo more than anything is chasing the money rather than avoiding GGG at this point, at least in the US the heavier divisions are the most popular, this is why when there are no good fighters on the heavyweight division the popularity of boxing goes down dramatically at the US, so Canelo is seeing an opportunity to make more money while at the same time he thinks he can dominate the division without Usyk there.

If that's the case, Alvarez wants both a title and more money. Let's put it this way, he thinks that he already beat everyone from his division, moving up will create new noise for his name, I just assume that there are more money if he will give Loma another chance but if there's more money after moving up it's more practical to choose.

We can't measure his capabilities after moving to this new division, but his chance still there, he might snatch the belt we never know
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November 27, 2021, 10:51:02 PM
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Because Lopez really knew that Loma isn't like the average fighter that he faced before, he also knew that he just luckily won by a small gap in score.
Maybe Lopez thinks that why would he fight Loma again (lame excuse), I defeat him already. We'll see it next year, chances that there will be a Loma vs Lopez 2 if Loma can eventually get this match in his favor.
Some argue that Lomachenko was injured during that fight and as such they believe that if he was healthy he would have beaten Lopez that day, however we need to give credit to Lopez he gave a good fight, which is why he won that day, what I do not understand is why there was no rematch clause, if that had been in place we would not have this issue of Lopez not wanting to give Lomachenko another chance to fight him, did Lomachenko thought he was going to win and he did not needed one? Because if that is the case then now he is paying the price for that arrogance.
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Because Lopez really knew that Loma isn't like the average fighter that he faced before, he also knew that he just luckily won by a small gap in score.
Maybe Lopez thinks that why would he fight Loma again (lame excuse), I defeat him already. We'll see it next year, chances that there will be a Loma vs Lopez 2 if Loma can eventually get this match in his favor.
Some argue that Lomachenko was injured during that fight and as such they believe that if he was healthy he would have beaten Lopez that day, however we need to give credit to Lopez he gave a good fight, which is why he won that day, what I do not understand is why there was no rematch clause, if that had been in place we would not have this issue of Lopez not wanting to give Lomachenko another chance to fight him, did Lomachenko thought he was going to win and he did not needed one? Because if that is the case then now he is paying the price for that arrogance.

It could be the reason why fighters doesn't want to give rematch clause, because they think that they are going to win against their tough opponent, like in this case Loma vs Lopez. So Loma might not have sign the rematch clause back then, if he would have known that he will get a shoulder injury then maybe there will be one.

Or Lopez himself was so confident in this fight that he also doesn't want any rematch clause after he beat Loma. But either way, we as boxing fans wanted to see a second fight, just to scratch our curiosity of what if Loma is healthy that time.

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This Saturday we will get to see Haney vs Diaz for the WBC lightweight championship, with the defeat of Lopez at the hands of Kambosos a unification fight could be on the cards between the winner of Haney vs Diaz and Kambosos during 2022, however I wonder if any of the two would give Lomachenko a chance to get a world title in the case Lomachenko wins this fight, which is the most likely outcome, or maybe they will go directly to the unification fight, in any case it seems the lightweight division is going to be very entertaining during the next year, just as it has been this year with one of the biggest upsets on recent memory on the sport.
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This Saturday we will get to see Haney vs Diaz for the WBC lightweight championship, with the defeat of Lopez at the hands of Kambosos a unification fight could be on the cards between the winner of Haney vs Diaz and Kambosos during 2022, however I wonder if any of the two would give Lomachenko a chance to get a world title before in the case Lomachenko wins this fight, which is the most likely outcome, or maybe they will go directly to the unification fight, in any case it seems the lightweight division is going to be very entertaining during the next year, just as it has been this year with one of the biggest upsets on recent memory on the sport.

It boils down as to where the money is, and I think with the Lopez lost, and with Loma assuming that he will win this fight against Commey, will still be the after sought fighter in this division even though he doesn't have the belt because of his name. And sooner or later either one of the champions will have to give Loma his chance to get back all his belt and be the champion once again in this division.

If Kambosos is wise, then wait for Loma next year and fight in Australia, that will be huge and a lot of money are going to flow for him in that fight.

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December 01, 2021, 05:28:06 AM
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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.
Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.
Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
I wouldn't be so sure about Lomachenko, yes as you said Loma is indeed a crowd favorite on this one. Look at their record also, Commey's knockout rate is 27 KOs in 30 victories and is much higher than Loma's rate 11 KOs in 15 victories, and about their height and reach advantage there's some gaps into it.
Commey is also looking forward to get his revenge against Lopez, as he is also defeated in their last match. This will be a tough fight, a battle of two fighters about getting their revenge against Lopez  Grin

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December 01, 2021, 05:37:04 AM
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Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.

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December 01, 2021, 05:45:28 AM
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Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.

There is still that element of revenge of the mind of Loma against Lopez and he is still fuel by this one that's why he came back fight Nakatani knock him out and then going after Commey, a ex-champion. In the amateurs, Loma only lost once if I'm not mistaken, and he avenge his only lost and beat the guy the second time. So most likely this is his mindset to chase Lopez last time to get his revenge win.
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December 01, 2021, 06:57:42 AM
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Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.

There is still that element of revenge of the mind of Loma against Lopez and he is still fuel by this one that's why he came back fight Nakatani knock him out and then going after Commey, a ex-champion. In the amateurs, Loma only lost once if I'm not mistaken, and he avenge his only lost and beat the guy the second time. So most likely this is his mindset to chase Lopez last time to get his revenge win.
Did Loma had a statement recently that he would still want a rematch against Lopez?

I think that doesn't make sense anymore, if Lopez does not agree with a rematch against Kambasos, then why would he give a rematch on Loma., honestly I don't see the logic, so I don't expect a rematch anymore after his loss against Kambasos.

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^^ If there is huge money to make then maybe in the future we will see the rematch. I think boxing fans are eager to see it happening anytime soon despite the lost of Lopez.

Again, this boxers are looking for money fights besides the belt that they are going to win. Although the two doesn't have one at this point, maybe in the future it either one of them regain a belt, still good to see a rematch between the two, in my opinion.

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^^ If there is huge money to make then maybe in the future we will see the rematch. I think boxing fans are eager to see it happening anytime soon despite the lost of Lopez.
That depends on the promoter if they will promote that fight, but of course, the final approval will be coming from Lopez as he was the one who don't like to have a rematch with Loma while Loma is just waiting for him to say yes. Maybe Loma is not anymore after of Lopez now, maybe he will take rather take Kambasos.

Again, this boxers are looking for money fights besides the belt that they are going to win. Although the two doesn't have one at this point, maybe in the future it either one of them regain a belt, still good to see a rematch between the two, in my opinion.
It's the main intention, should be the money but there's plenty of fighters to fight with, and for Loma and Kambasos, they now are in the upper hand as they are winning while Lopez has to recover from his big loss.

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December 01, 2021, 10:28:47 AM
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Did Loma had a statement recently that he would still want a rematch against Lopez?

I think that doesn't make sense anymore, if Lopez does not agree with a rematch against Kambasos, then why would he give a rematch on Loma., honestly I don't see the logic, so I don't expect a rematch anymore after his loss against Kambasos.

There's a report that Lopez can only get back in June of next year because of the medical reason I don't believe that he can go back this February like what his father is saying it needs time to heal the wounds, and it's a remote possibility now that Loma will face Lopez, but he can challenge Kambosos after he disposes of Commey, I believe Loma can rule the Lightweight division the Lopez fight is a temporary step back.

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Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.
It depends, now that both Lomachenko and Lopez are not champions arranging a fight between the two of them should be easier as now they do not have to fight any mandatory fight, Lopez could be more motivated to fight Lomachenko to prove he is still good and to recover some of the money he lost by not accepting a rematch for the titles Lomachenko lost against him.

And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

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December 01, 2021, 09:41:03 PM
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Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.
It depends, now that both Lomachenko and Lopez are not champions arranging a fight between the two of them should be easier as now they do not have to fight any mandatory fight, Lopez could be more motivated to fight Lomachenko to prove he is still good and to recover some of the money he lost by not accepting a rematch for the titles Lomachenko lost against him.
He did not lose any money because he made a lot during his fight with Kambasos although he lose in the fight.

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According to ESPN, both fighters are set for handsome paydays from Triller's initial USD$1.2 million (AUD$1.68 million) deposit, with Lopez receiving USD$780,000 (AUD$1.09 million) and Kambosos receiving USD$420,000 (AUD$587,000).

And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.
That's the scenario I like to see, Loma is going after Lopez to beat him, and I clearly believe he can avenged his lose.

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And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

I would not want to wait that long (in this case, we will see this fight no earlier than in 3-4 years), but in fact it would be epic - to catch up with an opponent who avoids revenge in another weight category and make him accept the fight there  Grin
This can be a plot for some movie (the main thing is that Loma fulfills his task and wins this battle).

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And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

I would not want to wait that long (in this case, we will see this fight no earlier than in 3-4 years), but in fact it would be epic - to catch up with an opponent who avoids revenge in another weight category and make him accept the fight there  Grin
This can be a plot for some movie (the main thing is that Loma fulfills his task and wins this battle).

That's right after his loss against Lopez, he does not talk a lot and instead goes back to work and he won his last fight. While for Lopez, this guy's ego is questionable so I don't expect him to be a champion again if he will not change

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December 03, 2021, 02:01:16 AM
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Did Loma had a statement recently that he would still want a rematch against Lopez?

I think that doesn't make sense anymore, if Lopez does not agree with a rematch against Kambasos, then why would he give a rematch on Loma., honestly I don't see the logic, so I don't expect a rematch anymore after his loss against Kambasos.

There's a report that Lopez can only get back in June of next year because of the medical reason I don't believe that he can go back this February like what his father is saying it needs time to heal the wounds, and it's a remote possibility now that Loma will face Lopez, but he can challenge Kambosos after he disposes of Commey, I believe Loma can rule the Lightweight division the Lopez fight is a temporary step back.

Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

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December 03, 2021, 06:28:37 AM
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Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.
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Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

Well, let's see if he will recover, Loma had a good fight after his defeat against Lopez, and now it's Lopez's turn to redeem himself and he is fighting on a heavier division so that's really interesting. Lopez will become a good challenger for the champions in that division which I believe is better than him.
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Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

Well, let's see if he will recover, Loma had a good fight after his defeat against Lopez, and now it's Lopez's turn to redeem himself and he is fighting on a heavier division so that's really interesting. Lopez will become a good challenger for the champions in that division which I believe is better than him.

If Lopez chooses to go to 140 lbs, I think it's a good division for him as there's not much name in that weight class, so let's see his next move.

Going back to this fight, I agree that Loma will be the crowd favorite because of his pleasing style, it's not that boring and a thing of beauty seeing him move inside the ring as he is very technical fighter and sometimes he gets a knock out too which makes him a very exciting to watch.

I also like the idea of him chasing Kambosos and get the belt that he once held after he win against Commey this month.
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December 03, 2021, 11:15:03 PM
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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.
Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Betting for the favorite is the most logical choice to make, however if we know this then it is obvious the casinos know this as well, and what they do to try to encourage other people to bet for the underdog is to give them better odds while at the same time reducing the odds of the favorite, this means that it gets to a point that even if you think one fighter is the clear favorite the odds offered for a bet for the underdog are too good to pass up, and a bet for them to win is the right call.
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December 03, 2021, 11:38:20 PM
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Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

Well, let's see if he will recover, Loma had a good fight after his defeat against Lopez, and now it's Lopez's turn to redeem himself and he is fighting on a heavier division so that's really interesting. Lopez will become a good challenger for the champions in that division which I believe is better than him.

If Lopez chooses to go to 140 lbs, I think it's a good division for him as there's not much name in that weight class, so let's see his next move.

Going back to this fight, I agree that Loma will be the crowd favorite because of his pleasing style, it's not that boring and a thing of beauty seeing him move inside the ring as he is very technical fighter and sometimes he gets a knock out too which makes him a very exciting to watch.

I also like the idea of him chasing Kambosos and get the belt that he once held after he win against Commey this month.

Josh Taylor and then maybe Tank Davis will also move to that division because he also hold a belt here. So this is also a exciting division and there is more money to be made here.

And I don't think that Loma can go move up to 140 lbs, this is too much for him, it's better if he will stay in 135 lbs and try to clean up that division. Get back all his belt, beat Kambosos in Australia and the other regular champions.

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Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

That's my point, he really need to take a break after all, the fight with Kambosos took almost a year and maybe it took a toll of Lopez mentally because of the long drama and he was affected by Covid-19 and maybe this is a factor for his lost as well.

I just beginning to think that if Loma wins against RC, the next best option for him is to go directly to Kambosos next year. Loma is also not getting any younger and he needs to take every opportunity.

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December 04, 2021, 03:19:23 PM
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Though Lomachenko is sometimes older than his opponents he is still a very good boxer and I don't think he is going to finish his boxing career anytime soon. He is in great physical shape so I have no doubt that he will beat Commey even though he is not a bad boxer either.

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December 05, 2021, 02:43:38 AM
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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.
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December 05, 2021, 03:10:35 AM
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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.
Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

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December 05, 2021, 09:18:03 AM
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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

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December 05, 2021, 10:42:37 AM
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I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

He should be if he wants to get back in the limelight, I also believe that he can still take a shot in the lightweight division either from Kambosos or Haney, Loma is more technical than the two it will be a very exciting fight that we are going to have because they are both former champions and they are still in the prime of their career.

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I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

He should be if he wants to get back in the limelight, I also believe that he can still take a shot in the lightweight division either from Kambosos or Haney, Loma is more technical than the two it will be a very exciting fight that we are going to have because they are both former champions and they are still in the prime of their career.

Haney just won his fight, and I think Loma's style will give Haney a problem.

As far as training goes, Loma has one of the best training video's I've seen, he is very technical because his training methods in unorthodox, combination of foot work, speed and timing.

For me though, it's better to go to Kambosos directly after he wins his fight with Commey. That is if George is willing to fight Loma or want to defend it right away.
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December 05, 2021, 11:43:38 AM
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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

More likely Loma will dominate him in the earlier round in order to defeat him without giving the officials to judge the fight with their score which is likely boring. It will be an easy fight for Loma next week and it would be a nice warm-up if ever he will gonna have a chance to fight some champion on his next fight. Canelo should not give his opponent some chance for an opportunity because this fight is his ticket to get back to have a chance to claim his throne again.

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December 05, 2021, 02:04:04 PM
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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

More likely Loma will dominate him in the earlier round in order to defeat him without giving the officials to judge the fight with their score which is likely boring. It will be an easy fight for Loma next week and it would be a nice warm-up if ever he will gonna have a chance to fight some champion on his next fight. Canelo should not give his opponent some chance for an opportunity because this fight is his ticket to get back to have a chance to claim his throne again.

I would not think of an easy fight though, Loma has proven being not unbeatable in boxing, he loses to Lopez and Richard Commey is a boxer with a decent record. Loma in order for him to win doesn't need to rush things, he stays with his strategy which is to slowly beat his opponent and use his calculated punches on Richard Commey.

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December 05, 2021, 02:26:02 PM
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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.
Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

I have also noticed that. Lomachenko and Lopez are quite alike, they fight close and Commey keeps it distant. I think they have to use their strengths properly. But yes, I'm a bit of a fan of Loma than Commey. Hope he wins by KO.  Grin Would like to see another Lopez and Loma fight again.
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December 05, 2021, 08:10:59 PM
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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.
Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

I have also noticed that. Lomachenko and Lopez are quite alike, they fight close and Commey keeps it distant. I think they have to use their strengths properly. But yes, I'm a bit of a fan of Loma than Commey. Hope he wins by KO.  Grin Would like to see another Lopez and Loma fight again.

Lopez and Loma's fight probably not gonna happen anymore unless Lopez will start winning again but his next fight is not going to be Loma because he is moving up in weight.

His guy who beat Lopez is more interesting.

holding these belts will probably make Loma more interested.

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December 06, 2021, 10:17:11 PM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

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December 07, 2021, 09:36:10 AM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

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He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.

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December 07, 2021, 11:24:36 AM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.
Yeah, agree, although Lomachenko is a great boxer and one of the best but there are limits to his capability. And at 140 lbs, there are bigger boxer, more natural that can give him difficult fight and he can loss as well.

So probably his main aim before retirement is to get back all the belts he lost to Lopez. Currently Kambosos has it but if George will fight Haney next year and then Lomachenko winning, then probably they can set up a fight after.

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December 07, 2021, 04:44:26 PM
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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.
Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Betting for the favorite is the most logical choice to make, however if we know this then it is obvious the casinos know this as well, and what they do to try to encourage other people to bet for the underdog is to give them better odds while at the same time reducing the odds of the favorite, this means that it gets to a point that even if you think one fighter is the clear favorite the odds offered for a bet for the underdog are too good to pass up, and a bet for them to win is the right call.
There's no use to bet for the underdog (Commey) here in this match, even if those gambling sites put some tasty odds to make you think twice. Obviously, Loma has the upper hand in this fight, so if some people will fall in that odds trap then it's their loss. The crowd favorite or choice will always be the winner except for some categories or fighters, but mostly it'll go that way no matter what the odds are. The real bet here is to guess what round will Loma knock Commey out.

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December 07, 2021, 06:20:34 PM
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And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

I would not want to wait that long (in this case, we will see this fight no earlier than in 3-4 years), but in fact it would be epic - to catch up with an opponent who avoids revenge in another weight category and make him accept the fight there  Grin
This can be a plot for some movie (the main thing is that Loma fulfills his task and wins this battle).
Without a doubt it is an interesting story that I would like to see, after all Lopez has been very arrogant since his victory over Lomachenko and I think he let that victory get to his head and now he needs to begin once again to build his reputation after that defeat against Kambosos.

And what could be more perfect than another fight with Lomachenko? I am sure Lomachenko will be willing to accept that fight anytime and anywhere to have the chance to avenge his defeat at the hands of Lopez, and if Lomachenko wins then we could see a trilogy between them.

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December 07, 2021, 06:30:23 PM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.
Yeah, agree, although Lomachenko is a great boxer and one of the best but there are limits to his capability. And at 140 lbs, there are bigger boxer, more natural that can give him difficult fight and he can loss as well.

So probably his main aim before retirement is to get back all the belts he lost to Lopez. Currently Kambosos has it but if George will fight Haney next year and then Lomachenko winning, then probably they can set up a fight after.
He just wanted to have some more money before retiring, trying to have as many fight as he can while promoters still interested with him, he's aging now and just like how those prime fighters ends up, retirement is unavoidable, for now it's best to accept whatever offer if the price is right.

No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..  Smiley

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December 07, 2021, 09:24:25 PM
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No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..  Smiley
^ Yeah it is almost there and this should be an exciting match and it would be nice if we watch them live.
I saw bookies odds between on them and it seems Commey has +600 odds while Loma got -1100 which is there are a lot of bettors on the side of Loma's goods. I cant imagine how Commey looks like after this match, as far as I remember, all of Loma's previous 15 fights and 11 of them were as a result of knockout.
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No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..  Smiley
^ Yeah it is almost there and this should be an exciting match and it would be nice if we watch them live.
I saw bookies odds between on them and it seems Commey has +600 odds while Loma got -1100 which is there are a lot of bettors on the side of Loma's goods. I cant imagine how Commey looks like after this match, as far as I remember, all of Loma's previous 15 fights and 11 of them were as a result of knockout.

I guess if someone will post a link again (@coin-investor), it will be great for us. I doubt though we can watch it live,  Grin

Commey now 7:1 odds against Loma in sportsbet. For sure Commey will be a good challenge for Loma in the first couple of rounds until he figures him out and be technical and Commey be like a lost pup inside because of Loma's ability to dart in and out and uses his footwork to confuse Commey.

I will not be surprised to see Commey quit here like the others who fought Loma.

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December 08, 2021, 03:32:57 AM
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@bisdak. You are the boxing expert hehe. What is your prediction for this fight?

I speculate that Lomachenko might see it as his chance to give the fans and the boxing promoters an unforgettable performance to make an argument as the next challenger of Kambosos. This is also after we witnessed not very good performances from Gervonta Davis and Haney.

Lomachenko odds is very small, also small on the Lomachenko knockout odds. However, total rounds for the right might be under 8.5 rounds with odds 1.89? We have also witnessed Lopez knockout Commey in round 2.

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December 08, 2021, 05:12:09 AM
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@bisdak. You are the boxing expert hehe. What is your prediction for this fight?

Supporting this lol  Grin

he had just won from Gervonta Davis and Isaac Cruz , and those fight before that meaning He is literally an Boxing expert (not to mention also in Basketball) so please @bisdak mind sharing your thoughts and views in this incoming fight?

there are only 3 days remaining so we are looking for possible win in this one  Grin


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December 08, 2021, 06:54:52 AM
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@bisdak. You are the boxing expert hehe. What is your prediction for this fight?

Supporting this lol  Grin

he had just won from Gervonta Davis and Isaac Cruz , and those fight before that meaning He is literally an Boxing expert (not to mention also in Basketball) so please @bisdak mind sharing your thoughts and views in this incoming fight?

there are only 3 days remaining so we are looking for possible win in this one  Grin



bisdak40 loves to bet on the favorite to win by decision so he would get good odds, so he is probably betting on Loma to win by decision.  Smiley

Loma by decision at 3.45.. I think it's hard to resist that one.
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December 08, 2021, 11:20:33 AM
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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

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December 09, 2021, 04:10:54 AM
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For me Loma should win this fight, again, we all know how this technical skills is, it's above everyone as this division and in the whole boxing for that matter. And I would say that Commey is more of  a brawler type of fighter and it's a perfect fit for Loma's ability.

I'm seeing Loma showing his skills again, confusing Commey at times and then go for a knock out maybe in the middle to the latter rounds. Well its good to see Loma going full 12 rounds but against Nakatani, it didn't last that long.

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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

You do not think that Lomachenko might have more motivation to knockout Commey after witnessing the lacklustre performance of Gervonta Davis and the boring performance of Haney? This is his chance to snatch that opportunity from those champions hehehe.

In any case, I will follow the experts for this one.

@Boafeng. Your fans are waiting hehehehe.

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December 09, 2021, 08:56:58 AM
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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

You do not think that Lomachenko might have more motivation to knockout Commey after witnessing the lacklustre performance of Gervonta Davis and the boring performance of Haney? This is his chance to snatch that opportunity from those champions hehehe.

In any case, I will follow the experts for this one.

@Boafeng. Your fans are waiting hehehehe.

He will always go for the knockout if the opportunity presents itself. His power is under rated because we are at awe with this technical prowess.

So with that said, the under 8.5 round is good to bet @1.89. Good to throw some decent amount of money as I don't see this going 12 rounds.

And probably yes Loma will be motivated to show who is the best 135 lbs right now, those champions are boring, Davis specially Haney who don't have the firepower but still a champion because of careful matchup.
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December 09, 2021, 01:07:53 PM
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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

You do not think that Lomachenko might have more motivation to knockout Commey after witnessing the lacklustre performance of Gervonta Davis and the boring performance of Haney? This is his chance to snatch that opportunity from those champions hehehe.

In any case, I will follow the experts for this one.

@Boafeng. Your fans are waiting hehehehe.

He will always go for the knockout if the opportunity presents itself. His power is under rated because we are at awe with this technical prowess.

So with that said, the under 8.5 round is good to bet @1.89. Good to throw some decent amount of money as I don't see this going 12 rounds.

And probably yes Loma will be motivated to show who is the best 135 lbs right now, those champions are boring, Davis specially Haney who don't have the firepower but still a champion because of careful matchup.

Lomachenko winning by KO is another statement that he is still present and he can reclaim his past losses especially if he will be given a rematch against Lopez. Now, it's him who is in the limelight of his career because he easily recover from his big loss, and let's see if his journey will continue.

Good luck to Loma, he deserve to win and get a big fight again against any champion.

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December 09, 2021, 03:19:44 PM
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He will always go for the knockout if the opportunity presents itself. His power is under rated because we are at awe with this technical prowess.
He's been known being like that, he will try harder to bring the momentum to his name, KO is very possible to happen here.

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So with that said, the under 8.5 round is good to bet @1.89. Good to throw some decent amount of money as I don't see this going 12 rounds.

I can say, it's decent and very miuch possible for you win this one, once Loma got heated he will take this one and knock Commey in
much lesser rounds.

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And probably yes Loma will be motivated to show who is the best 135 lbs right now, those champions are boring, Davis specially Haney who don't have the firepower but still a champion because of careful matchup.


he can challeneged them if he win this one with much attention, money will talk for both promoters to discuss the possible match up.

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December 09, 2021, 03:53:11 PM
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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

You do not think that Lomachenko might have more motivation to knockout Commey after witnessing the lacklustre performance of Gervonta Davis and the boring performance of Haney? This is his chance to snatch that opportunity from those champions hehehe.

In any case, I will follow the experts for this one.

@Boafeng. Your fans are waiting hehehehe.

He will always go for the knockout if the opportunity presents itself. His power is under rated because we are at awe with this technical prowess.

So with that said, the under 8.5 round is good to bet @1.89. Good to throw some decent amount of money as I don't see this going 12 rounds.

And probably yes Loma will be motivated to show who is the best 135 lbs right now, those champions are boring, Davis specially Haney who don't have the firepower but still a champion because of careful matchup.

Lomachenko winning by KO is another statement that he is still present and he can reclaim his past losses especially if he will be given a rematch against Lopez. Now, it's him who is in the limelight of his career because he easily recover from his big loss, and let's see if his journey will continue.

Good luck to Loma, he deserve to win and get a big fight again against any champion.

Correct, that's why in the Nakatani fight he try to win by knockout and shows that he is back again and shows message that he wants to get back his title.

And again this fight, if he sees that opportunity to score a big win by KO then he will do it and again, to give other champions like Kambosos a word that he is ready for the title shot.

So let's see, it might not go to the judges scorecard and could be less than 8 rounds.
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December 09, 2021, 04:19:00 PM
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Richard Commey is a very powerful puncher.  His blows are always unexpected.  He very deftly knocked out Dominican Jackson Marinez. 

Lomachenko is an excellent fighter.  Commey's main hope for a knockout.  But will Lomachenko give him such a chance?  I think not! 

Lomachenko is very mobile.  He does not stand in one place.  In addition, Lomachenko has great motivation to win.  Losing this fight will ruin his boxing career. 

Therefore, I predict an early victory Lomachenko.  Victory by knockout.

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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

You do not think that Lomachenko might have more motivation to knockout Commey after witnessing the lacklustre performance of Gervonta Davis and the boring performance of Haney? This is his chance to snatch that opportunity from those champions hehehe.

In any case, I will follow the experts for this one.

@Boafeng. Your fans are waiting hehehehe.

Lol, I'm not expert as well, I just love the sports and @bisdak40 has been winning good in the last two boxing match so I would say that he is on a roll and maybe his prediction will be right again in this match.  Grin

But I will still back up Loma here to win, yeah could be by decision Loma by decision is now 3.10. Get your bets early so that we can still avail of this good and attractive odds.

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December 09, 2021, 05:14:11 PM
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Just two days before the fight. Today I checked the odds and they seemed very strange to me - 1.06 on Scrap and 6.4 on Commey. It seems that the bookmakers do not want to accept bets on this fight at all - the odds for both boxers are too low. I think that on Commey they could easily give 9 or even 10  Undecided

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December 09, 2021, 07:17:47 PM
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I think that even if bookmakers raise the odds on Commey it won't change anything. The probability that he will win this fight is so small that I think the number of bets on his victory will be negligible. I'm looking forward to this fight and of course I'm rooting for the Ukrainian boxer as always.

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December 09, 2021, 08:49:19 PM
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I think that even if bookmakers raise the odds on Commey it won't change anything. The probability that he will win this fight is so small that I think the number of bets on his victory will be negligible. I'm looking forward to this fight and of course I'm rooting for the Ukrainian boxer as always.

As always mate because Loma hasn't changed, he is still very smart and that makes him very dangerous in the ring. I don't even think that his career was over when he lose against Lopez, and I'm correct because he is coming back, as usual, betting his opponent easily and this one should have the same outcome.
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December 09, 2021, 11:05:02 PM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.
Then I suppose the only thing Lomachenko can do is to win this Saturday in a convincing manner and keep fighting other good boxers until he gets a chance to challenge whoever wins between Haney and Kambosos, and even if I think the majority of the boxing fans would like to see Lomachenko getting the chance to fight one of those two before the unification fight, at the same time an unification fight which is all or nothing is incredibly attractive, so I can understand why Haney and Kambosos want to fight each other right away.
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December 10, 2021, 02:27:50 AM
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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

I've also been watching them, I like it when a boxer does his job with enough responsibility and with such dedication, just seeing his preparation makes me think that it is very likely that he will give a good fight and be careful if he wins, every fighter only goes up a level. when he trains harder, because his body and mind grow compared to any rival, I think he has the necessary potential to be able to win, however, it is not good to make a prediction yet that will ensure his victory, I have not really seen the statistics and I think that this can raise those numbers that were probably in the red.

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December 10, 2021, 02:53:30 AM
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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

You do not think that Lomachenko might have more motivation to knockout Commey after witnessing the lacklustre performance of Gervonta Davis and the boring performance of Haney? This is his chance to snatch that opportunity from those champions hehehe.

In any case, I will follow the experts for this one.

@Boafeng. Your fans are waiting hehehehe.

He will always go for the knockout if the opportunity presents itself. His power is under rated because we are at awe with this technical prowess.

So with that said, the under 8.5 round is good to bet @1.89. Good to throw some decent amount of money as I don't see this going 12 rounds.

And probably yes Loma will be motivated to show who is the best 135 lbs right now, those champions are boring, Davis specially Haney who don't have the firepower but still a champion because of careful matchup.

I am also speculating that the under 8.5 rounds, however, @Boafeng and @bisdak appear to be predicting that Lomachenko might also win on a decision because Commey’s only defeat on a knockout is versus Teofimo Lopez, who is a heavy puncher. Lomachenko’s knockouts came from when his opponents did not see the punch coming.


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December 10, 2021, 03:03:54 AM
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Yes, it seems that boxing public is still torn, I mean for sure Loma could win this fight, but it could be under 8.5 or could be by decision, whichever is more attractive to the betting public.

I haven't bet yet, but I will go for under 8.5 round, Loma will figure Commey early and devise a strategy to try and end this fight and not go to go the judges with a knockout.

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December 10, 2021, 12:34:58 PM
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I am also speculating that the under 8.5 rounds, however, @Boafeng and @bisdak appear to be predicting that Lomachenko might also win on a decision because Commey’s only defeat on a knockout is versus Teofimo Lopez, who is a heavy puncher. Lomachenko’s knockouts came from when his opponents did not see the punch coming.

I will take the risk here and bet for Loma to win via decision  Cool. Compared to the lanky Nakatani, Commey is tougher on the outside so I think he will survive this one, and knowing how technical Loma is, Commey might just fight to survive and not fight to win lol. The odds for the decision win is just too attractive for me so I will give it a shot. Even though he can't KO Commey, Loma is still a beauty to watch, hitting his opponents on an awkward angle and the footwork is so amazing. 


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December 10, 2021, 01:34:42 PM
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I think that even if bookmakers raise the odds on Commey it won't change anything. The probability that he will win this fight is so small that I think the number of bets on his victory will be negligible. I'm looking forward to this fight and of course I'm rooting for the Ukrainian boxer as always.

I disagree with you - many bettors are looking for at least slightly unbalanced odds in order to place a bet and make a profit at a distance (we are talking about a few percent of the turnover). Therefore, the difference in odds between 6.4 and 9 is actually gigantic.  And even with the odds of 9, the bookmaker's margin is still above average, which is why I assumed that for some reason they do not want to accept bets on this match.

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December 10, 2021, 01:57:44 PM
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I am also speculating that the under 8.5 rounds, however, @Boafeng and @bisdak appear to be predicting that Lomachenko might also win on a decision because Commey’s only defeat on a knockout is versus Teofimo Lopez, who is a heavy puncher. Lomachenko’s knockouts came from when his opponents did not see the punch coming.

I will take the risk here and bet for Loma to win via decision  Cool. Compared to the lanky Nakatani, Commey is tougher on the outside so I think he will survive this one, and knowing how technical Loma is, Commey might just fight to survive and not fight to win lol. The odds for the decision win is just too attractive for me so I will give it a shot. Even though he can't KO Commey, Loma is still a beauty to watch, hitting his opponents on an awkward angle and the footwork is so amazing. 



Good for you mate, and hopefully it will be a risk worth rewarding in the end.

I like your analysis for sure Commey might play defense in the mid rounds and make it difficult for Loma to score a knock out. Nakatani is a face first fighter as compare to Commey who doesn't want to go toe to toe but counter its that he was caught early in the Lopez fight and that was a brutal punch by Lopez with all the power because he was fresh as that was early rounds. But for this fight, it seems that he will be more careful and might be a chess match.
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December 10, 2021, 02:18:37 PM
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I think that even if bookmakers raise the odds on Commey it won't change anything. The probability that he will win this fight is so small that I think the number of bets on his victory will be negligible. I'm looking forward to this fight and of course I'm rooting for the Ukrainian boxer as always.

I disagree with you - many bettors are looking for at least slightly unbalanced odds in order to place a bet and make a profit at a distance (we are talking about a few percent of the turnover). Therefore, the difference in odds between 6.4 and 9 is actually gigantic.  And even with the odds of 9, the bookmaker's margin is still above average, which is why I assumed that for some reason they do not want to accept bets on this match.

You may be right. If I bet on fights I try to choose a fight in which one of the fighters has a clear advantage as in this fight, as it significantly reduces the risk of losing money. If the boxers are close in their odds I just prefer to watch the fight without betting. Maybe that's why I don't understand why you would want to see higher odds on Commey.

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December 10, 2021, 02:24:01 PM
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I am also speculating that the under 8.5 rounds, however, @Boafeng and @bisdak appear to be predicting that Lomachenko might also win on a decision because Commey’s only defeat on a knockout is versus Teofimo Lopez, who is a heavy puncher. Lomachenko’s knockouts came from when his opponents did not see the punch coming.

I will take the risk here and bet for Loma to win via decision  Cool. Compared to the lanky Nakatani, Commey is tougher on the outside so I think he will survive this one, and knowing how technical Loma is, Commey might just fight to survive and not fight to win lol. The odds for the decision win is just too attractive for me so I will give it a shot. Even though he can't KO Commey, Loma is still a beauty to watch, hitting his opponents on an awkward angle and the footwork is so amazing. 


I will stick to my earlier prediction that the fight will not go the distance.

Commey strategy for me is to really engage Loma in the beginning, like in the Linares fight wherein Jorge Linares scored a flash knock down and then Loma finished him in round 11.

But this time it wll be early maybe 6-8 round will do for Loma to figure Commey and score a left and a knock out. But in any case, good luck to us bettors, each one has his own bet on this fight.
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December 10, 2021, 03:56:56 PM
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Richard Commey is a very powerful puncher.  His blows are always unexpected.  He very deftly knocked out Dominican Jackson Marinez.  

Lomachenko is an excellent fighter.  Commey's main hope for a knockout.  But will Lomachenko give him such a chance?  I think not!  

Lomachenko is very mobile.  He does not stand in one place.  In addition, Lomachenko has great motivation to win.  Losing this fight will ruin his boxing career.  

Therefore, I predict an early victory Lomachenko.  Victory by knockout.
Almost everyone that is a big fan of Lomachenko knows that he will really root and find several ways to knockout Richard Commey and we know that it will likely to happen in this fight, and also the odds are in-favor to Loma. But the real question is, what's the most expected round that Loma will able to knock Commey out? I've been reading to other speculations as well and found out that only few believed that this well end via unanimous or split decision.
As for Commey, undoubtedly he's a powerful puncher but most of it will just swing by Loma and Commey lacks the mindset and agility.
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December 10, 2021, 03:58:55 PM
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I am also speculating that the under 8.5 rounds, however, @Boafeng and @bisdak appear to be predicting that Lomachenko might also win on a decision because Commey’s only defeat on a knockout is versus Teofimo Lopez, who is a heavy puncher. Lomachenko’s knockouts came from when his opponents did not see the punch coming.

I will take the risk here and bet for Loma to win via decision  Cool. Compared to the lanky Nakatani, Commey is tougher on the outside so I think he will survive this one, and knowing how technical Loma is, Commey might just fight to survive and not fight to win lol. The odds for the decision win is just too attractive for me so I will give it a shot. Even though he can't KO Commey, Loma is still a beauty to watch, hitting his opponents on an awkward angle and the footwork is so amazing. 


I will stick to my earlier prediction that the fight will not go the distance.

Commey strategy for me is to really engage Loma in the beginning, like in the Linares fight wherein Jorge Linares scored a flash knock down and then Loma finished him in round 11.

But this time it wll be early maybe 6-8 round will do for Loma to figure Commey and score a left and a knock out. But in any case, good luck to us bettors, each one has his own bet on this fight.
That's right, we bettors have our own assessment regarding to this fight. I also assume that Loma will KO Commey the type of fight Loma wanted to have to bring more attention for his career, winning a KO will give him exposures from social medias and news write-ups, the more people got interested with him the more promoters will engage to sponsor his fights.  Roll Eyes Tongue

Just 2 more days and we will see the fight to happen. We are all free now to place our bets and hope for luck to back up our pick. Smiley


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December 10, 2021, 04:55:29 PM
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I am also speculating that the under 8.5 rounds, however, @Boafeng and @bisdak appear to be predicting that Lomachenko might also win on a decision because Commey’s only defeat on a knockout is versus Teofimo Lopez, who is a heavy puncher. Lomachenko’s knockouts came from when his opponents did not see the punch coming.
I will take the risk here and bet for Loma to win via decision  Cool. Compared to the lanky Nakatani, Commey is tougher on the outside so I think he will survive this one, and knowing how technical Loma is, Commey might just fight to survive and not fight to win lol. The odds for the decision win is just too attractive for me so I will give it a shot. Even though he can't KO Commey, Loma is still a beauty to watch, hitting his opponents on an awkward angle and the footwork is so amazing. 


Loma has a record of 15 wins and two losses, 11 of them are from knockout. On the other hand, Commey has a record of 30 wins and three losses and amongst them, 27 are of knockouts. Even though Commey has a great record but the style of Loma is really unique and in my opinion better than Commey.
So I think if nothing bad happens then the bet is ok, Best of luck.

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Like other boxing fans I'm looking forward to this fight Lomachenko vs Commey. Vasyl Lomachenko, in my opinion, is the best boxer in this weight category and if not for the injury he would have remained with belts.
I expect that tomorrow we'll see 12 rounds and Vasya's victory in points  Wink
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Like other boxing fans I'm looking forward to this fight Lomachenko vs Commey. Vasyl Lomachenko, in my opinion, is the best boxer in this weight category and if not for the injury he would have remained with belts.
I expect that tomorrow we'll see 12 rounds and Vasya's victory in points  Wink

12 rounds! this is hilarious, man!  Cheesy
Big match is going to happen! though he hasn't belt but this is killer Lomachenko 6th round TKO,
how would Commey survive from this killer fighter? I've seen Lomachenko's last fight he is just relentless and fight continues till the end of the victory. Now it is time to acquire a Belt.
I think Richard Commey should take some energy booster because he is older than Loma and will be harder to survive.

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December 10, 2021, 08:31:19 PM
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Like other boxing fans I'm looking forward to this fight Lomachenko vs Commey. Vasyl Lomachenko, in my opinion, is the best boxer in this weight category and if not for the injury he would have remained with belts.
I expect that tomorrow we'll see 12 rounds and Vasya's victory in points  Wink

12 rounds! this is hilarious, man!  Cheesy
Big match is going to happen! though he hasn't belt but this is killer Lomachenko 6th round TKO,
how would Commey survive from this killer fighter? I've seen Lomachenko's last fight he is just relentless and fight continues till the end of the victory. Now it is time to acquire a Belt.
I think Richard Commey should take some energy booster because he is older than Loma and will be harder to survive.

Let's just see the fight first, don't underestimate Commey because he is so capable, I mean look at this record, he has 30 wins and 27 of that is in KO. So I wouldn't be too confident that Loma will dominate Commey because it is not the right thing to do, and Bohdan820 has a point, it could reach 12 rounds with lots of actions throughout the fight.

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December 10, 2021, 10:02:03 PM
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A bit disappointed now. If I calculated correctly, the fight will take place at about 6 am my time and I will be right after work. We'll have to watch it on record. On the other hand, it is unlikely that there will be something really interesting in it, most likely Loma will dominate from the first rounds and will decide for himself when to end the fight.

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December 11, 2021, 12:04:22 AM
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Just saw their press conference and they have mutual respect for each other, Lomachecnko is a heavy favorite here, in his last fight he still has that awesome move in the ring and of course power, but Commey is also good in his last fight, he knocks out his opponent and he also has a power, if Commey wins it's a candidate for upset of the year, whoever wins here since both of them are former champion will have a chance for another crack in a world title.

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December 11, 2021, 01:42:48 AM
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Like other boxing fans I'm looking forward to this fight Lomachenko vs Commey. Vasyl Lomachenko, in my opinion, is the best boxer in this weight category and if not for the injury he would have remained with belts.
I expect that tomorrow we'll see 12 rounds and Vasya's victory in points  Wink

12 rounds! this is hilarious, man!  Cheesy
Big match is going to happen! though he hasn't belt but this is killer Lomachenko 6th round TKO,
how would Commey survive from this killer fighter? I've seen Lomachenko's last fight he is just relentless and fight continues till the end of the victory. Now it is time to acquire a Belt.
I think Richard Commey should take some energy booster because he is older than Loma and will be harder to survive.

We can't say that for sure mate if Loma can win by TKO at 6th rounds.

Although Commey's chin has been check already by Lopez, it's a different fighter. And I would say that Lopez has more power than Loma (no disrespect) and he needs volume punching to stop Commey here. And maybe Commey prepared for that and will turtle when Loma is going to attack him. The fight though is 24 hours from now so let's see if our predictions is right and our bets won.

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December 11, 2021, 07:16:33 AM
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We can't say that for sure mate if Loma can win by TKO at 6th rounds.

Although Commey's chin has been check already by Lopez, it's a different fighter. And I would say that Lopez has more power than Loma (no disrespect) and he needs volume punching to stop Commey here. And maybe Commey prepared for that and will turtle when Loma is going to attack him. The fight though is 24 hours from now so let's see if our predictions is right and our bets won.

I'm surprised, but bookmakers generally agree with your conclusions - most likely the fight will end in the second half or even with the full number of rounds:

Winner & Round Range

Lomachenko, Vasyl & 1-3 - 9.80

Lomachenko, Vasyl & 4-6 - 5.20

Lomachenko, Vasyl & 7-9 - 3.75

Lomachenko, Vasyl & 10-12 - 3.70

Lomachenko, Vasyl & decision - 3.20

However, this does not negate the fact that Loma is the obvious favorite and the odds are so scanty that there is no point in betting on a simple outcome of the fight.

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December 11, 2021, 11:14:48 AM
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I think Richard Commey should take some energy booster because he is older than Loma and will be harder to survive.

This is where Lomachenko is good if he can't knock you out in the early rounds he'll win every round and take it in the championship rounds to pour everything, a healthy Lomachencko can beat anybody, so if we see a healthy Loma we can see a knock out here, I will not rule out an upset Commey has a very good knock out percentage if he can find to connect big punches it will be tough for Lomachecnko.

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December 11, 2021, 01:37:40 PM
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Just saw their press conference and they have mutual respect for each other, Lomachecnko is a heavy favorite here, in his last fight he still has that awesome move in the ring and of course power, but Commey is also good in his last fight, he knocks out his opponent and he also has a power, if Commey wins it's a candidate for upset of the year, whoever wins here since both of them are former champion will have a chance for another crack in a world title.

this is why am betting over 8.5 here. let's see. the possibility that this may go the distance is good, if both fighters are well-prepared. we will see this in the first few rounds if they have the gas to last those 12 rounds.
as loma is the heavy favourite, betting on him will not give you good profits, just look for other MLs here. winning method is also good but would be high risk if you will use good amount of money.

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December 11, 2021, 01:44:35 PM
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I think Richard Commey should take some energy booster because he is older than Loma and will be harder to survive.

This is where Lomachenko is good if he can't knock you out in the early rounds he'll win every round and take it in the championship rounds to pour everything, a healthy Lomachencko can beat anybody, so if we see a healthy Loma we can see a knock out here, I will not rule out an upset Commey has a very good knock out percentage if he can find to connect big punches it will be tough for Lomachecnko.

11 KO from 15 wins, not a bad stat for Lomachenko, and yes, he is undoubtedly good in boxing that's why he has a lot of fans, and I have to admit, I'm one of the many. I love his disciplined in the ring, he stay focused and follows the plan, he is not aggressive trying to knock out the opponent right away but when he sees an opportunity, boom!!! there goes the KO.  Smiley

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December 11, 2021, 01:50:55 PM
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Just saw their press conference and they have mutual respect for each other, Lomachecnko is a heavy favorite here, in his last fight he still has that awesome move in the ring and of course power, but Commey is also good in his last fight, he knocks out his opponent and he also has a power, if Commey wins it's a candidate for upset of the year, whoever wins here since both of them are former champion will have a chance for another crack in a world title.

I also watched their conference and it made me realize that they're a good match since they're both humble despite the competition between them. Lomanchenko has an advantage here but I don't want to underestimate Commey's strength because he's also aggressive on the ring.
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For the live fight of Lomachencko - Commey this is the link but not guaranty that it will still be online as the events go on  Facebook is very hard on live fights, hope we can finish the whole fight before it gets taken down

Loma - Commey live

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For the live fight of Lomachencko - Commey this is the link but not guaranty that it will still be online as the events go on  Facebook is very hard on live fights, hope we can finish the whole fight before it gets taken down

Loma - Commey live

Thanks again mate for the live streaming, yeah, Facebook is very quick in taking down this live feed by hopefully no one will report it.

Anyway, fight is almost there, the two sides have promised a lot of fireworks specially Commey as he wanted to remain in the spotlight as well.

And Loma said that he is still willing to fight Lopez but at 135 lbs, he said it will be not fair for him to move to 140 as he is too small for that weight class. So let's see what's going to happen after this fight.

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December 12, 2021, 03:17:41 AM
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For the live fight of Lomachencko - Commey this is the link but not guaranty that it will still be online as the events go on  Facebook is very hard on live fights, hope we can finish the whole fight before it gets taken down

Loma - Commey live

Thanks again mate for the live streaming, yeah, Facebook is very quick in taking down this live feed by hopefully no one will report it.

Anyway, fight is almost there, the two sides have promised a lot of fireworks specially Commey as he wanted to remain in the spotlight as well.

And Loma said that he is still willing to fight Lopez but at 135 lbs, he said it will be not fair for him to move to 140 as he is too small for that weight class. So let's see what's going to happen after this fight.

Been waiting for this link hehe. @coin-investor thanks for this one and hope no one would report for us to enjoy our Sunday afternoon.

Lot of knockouts in the undercard huh hope it would be the opposite in the main event.

Loma should not give the rematch to the arrogant Lopez whatever the weight it may be. Let Josh Taylor punish him further in the 140lbs division.

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December 12, 2021, 05:03:29 AM
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^^ Loma won by decision already, as he dropped Commey in round 7th of their fight.

It's a UD and no doubt that Loma is really back and he could be the mandatory challenger for Kambosos now. And I think it will be a better match up instead of Tank Davis.

I mean Loma is really climbing back to the ranks and has faces two tough opponents in Nakatani and now Commey and beat them convincingly. Hopefully WBO and WBC will have him as mandatory now.

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December 12, 2021, 05:41:19 AM
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^^ Loma won by decision already, as he dropped Commey in round 7th of their fight.
It's a UD and no doubt that Loma is really back and he could be the mandatory challenger for Kambosos now. And I think it will be a better match up instead of Tank Davis.
I mean Loma is really climbing back to the ranks and has faces two tough opponents in Nakatani and now Commey and beat them convincingly. Hopefully WBO and WBC will have him as mandatory now.

Either way, Loma needs to fight them and it will be definitely a fight of the year when they show great boxing in the ring. It finds if he give Lopez a chance but right now, he can't be stopped because once again he is rising to get to the top by defeating those in his way especially Kambosos and Tank Davis.

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December 12, 2021, 08:40:25 AM
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I mean Loma is really climbing back to the ranks and has faces two tough opponents in Nakatani and now Commey and beat them convincingly. Hopefully WBO and WBC will have him as mandatory now.

He deserves to be mandatory, a healthy Loma can beat anybody I love watching Lomachencko, his ring generalship is awesome, Commey cannot solve Loma's fast hands and agility although he lands some good punch, Loma is just a complete fighter he is awesome I hope he'll get his revenge against Lopez if he can move up to a higher division but a fight with Kambosos will be a good fight for both boxers.


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December 12, 2021, 09:16:09 AM
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Lost my bet here, as I have said, 8.5 and below rounds or a knock out win by Loma which almost happened. Commey was in queer street, Lol, and the referee should stop that fight and Commey is not fighting back. But we are right that Loma's technical ability will float in this one and this what really happens.

But in any case, congrats to those who bet on the decision win for Loma.

Maybe we can really see Kambosos vs Loma next.
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December 12, 2021, 09:19:39 AM
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Lost my bet here, as I have said, 8.5 and below rounds or a knock out win by Loma which almost happened. Commey was in queer street, Lol, and the referee should stop that fight and Commey is not fighting back. But we are right that Loma's technical ability will float in this one and this what really happens.

But in any case, congrats to those who bet on the decision win for Loma.

Maybe we can really see Kambosos vs Loma next.

If Lomachenko has more power on the short left hook he throws in round 7, maybe Commey  can't get out of the canvass. But it's obvious that Lopez has more power, nevertheless you have to appreciate how Lomachenko beat Commey by his boxing skills and that's why we call boxing sweet science.

Yes, Kambosos should fight Lomachenko next, give him his shot because that's what he deserves. Whether in Australia in the US, because as others said, this is more interesting.
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December 12, 2021, 09:23:36 AM
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Hopefully you guys listen to our prediction that Loma will win by decision it's a juicy 3.x odds if you get to bet early as I have said.

A lot of good analysis in this fight and yes we see the difference as far as technical and boxing skills is and that's where we all agree.

And if Loma is 100%, it's hard to beat him and I would say that he should stay in this weight class and then fight all those champions to unify if he can. Maybe Tank or Ryan Garcia has the power but they haven't face a boxer like Loma's who's footwork and timing are really above anyone else.

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December 12, 2021, 09:56:46 AM
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An excellent fight was shown by the fighters! Loma confidently fought the fight, he did everything so competently throughout the fight that there was no need to worry about him.

I admire Commey's resilience surviving after falling 5 rounds is very strong!
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December 12, 2021, 10:13:38 AM
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Hopefully you guys listen to our prediction that Loma will win by decision it's a juicy 3.x odds if you get to bet early as I have said.

A lot of good analysis in this fight and yes we see the difference as far as technical and boxing skills is and that's where we all agree.

And if Loma is 100%, it's hard to beat him and I would say that he should stay in this weight class and then fight all those champions to unify if he can. Maybe Tank or Ryan Garcia has the power but they haven't face a boxer like Loma's who's footwork and timing are really above anyone else.

Loma could have KO Commey if he would really want to, he was looking at Commey's corner when Commey was hurt because he wants them to stop the fight, but it didn't happen, instead, Commey survive the fight but Loma won via unanimous decision.

Anyway, congratulations to you @Baofeng , that's was a great win with a real juicy odds.

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December 12, 2021, 02:02:34 PM
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An excellent fight was shown by the fighters! Loma confidently fought the fight, he did everything so competently throughout the fight that there was no need to worry about him.

I admire Commey's resilience surviving after falling 5 rounds is very strong!

I completely agree with you about Loma being very confident in the ring, but Commey was knocked out in round 7, not 5. I'm very surprised that he was able to recover from the knockout and was able to last all 12 rounds. It was a good fight which allowed many people to increase their deposit with almost no risk.

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December 12, 2021, 02:54:31 PM
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Like other boxing fans I'm looking forward to this fight Lomachenko vs Commey. Vasyl Lomachenko, in my opinion, is the best boxer in this weight category and if not for the injury he would have remained with belts.
I expect that tomorrow we'll see 12 rounds and Vasya's victory in points  Wink

12 rounds! this is hilarious, man!  Cheesy
Big match is going to happen! though he hasn't belt but this is killer Lomachenko 6th round TKO,
how would Commey survive from this killer fighter? I've seen Lomachenko's last fight he is just relentless and fight continues till the end of the victory. Now it is time to acquire a Belt.
I think Richard Commey should take some energy booster because he is older than Loma and will be harder to survive.
The fight was excellent and I personally feel that Vasily took pity on the opponent in the 7th and 8th round.
I wonder how intensely Vasily trained before the fight. Usyk before his fight trained endurance for 15 rounds I think Vasily did even more.
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December 12, 2021, 03:55:23 PM
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Hopefully you guys listen to our prediction that Loma will win by decision it's a juicy 3.x odds if you get to bet early as I have said.

A lot of good analysis in this fight and yes we see the difference as far as technical and boxing skills is and that's where we all agree.

And if Loma is 100%, it's hard to beat him and I would say that he should stay in this weight class and then fight all those champions to unify if he can. Maybe Tank or Ryan Garcia has the power but they haven't face a boxer like Loma's who's footwork and timing are really above anyone else.

I wonder what you would say if this bet had not been played because Loma would have won by knockout? It looked probable before the battle and during the battle he had such opportunities, but either he could not realize them or did not want to. Or do you think that the result of the battle was predetermined?

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December 12, 2021, 06:22:30 PM
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Like other boxing fans I'm looking forward to this fight Lomachenko vs Commey. Vasyl Lomachenko, in my opinion, is the best boxer in this weight category and if not for the injury he would have remained with belts.
I expect that tomorrow we'll see 12 rounds and Vasya's victory in points  Wink

12 rounds! this is hilarious, man!  Cheesy
Big match is going to happen! though he hasn't belt but this is killer Lomachenko 6th round TKO,
how would Commey survive from this killer fighter? I've seen Lomachenko's last fight he is just relentless and fight continues till the end of the victory. Now it is time to acquire a Belt.
I think Richard Commey should take some energy booster because he is older than Loma and will be harder to survive.
The fight was excellent and I personally feel that Vasily took pity on the opponent in the 7th and 8th round.
I wonder how intensely Vasily trained before the fight. Usyk before his fight trained endurance for 15 rounds I think Vasily did even more.

I don't think any professional athlete will ever feel sorry for his opponent. You're wrong about that. After failing to knock him out in 7 rounds, Lomachenko took a break to catch his breath. The game was under Lomachenko's control throughout the match. Commey held up really well with Lomachenko's technical combinations. Even though he lost the right of this match, Commey gave it up.

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December 12, 2021, 08:39:51 PM
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It was Lomachenko all the way it's what we expect if Lomachecnko is not in injury, the speed is still there, I saw on Commey's face the frustration, he has a lot of misses if this is the Lomachecnko that will fight Lopez again, he'll be in big trouble after the Haney - Kambosos fight if it's going to happen, the winner of that match should fight Lomachecnko, he deserves to be a contender after his last two fights.

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December 12, 2021, 08:43:00 PM
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An excellent fight was shown by the fighters! Loma confidently fought the fight, he did everything so competently throughout the fight that there was no need to worry about him.

I admire Commey's resilience surviving after falling 5 rounds is very strong!

I completely agree with you about Loma being very confident in the ring, but Commey was knocked out in round 7, not 5. I'm very surprised that he was able to recover from the knockout and was able to last all 12 rounds. It was a good fight which allowed many people to increase their deposit with almost no risk.

It's called knocked down, not knocked out because if a fighter gets KO, he won't be able to continue the fight and he would lose the fight. In this case, Loma did a great job but failed to take the opportunity to finish Commey when he was struggling to stand on his feet.

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December 12, 2021, 10:44:06 PM
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It was Lomachenko all the way it's what we expect if Lomachecnko is not in injury, the speed is still there, I saw on Commey's face the frustration, he has a lot of misses if this is the Lomachecnko that will fight Lopez again, he'll be in big trouble after the Haney - Kambosos fight if it's going to happen, the winner of that match should fight Lomachecnko, he deserves to be a contender after his last two fights.

Kambosos is a very good next opponent for him, but it depends in both of their promoters. Most of the time, it doesn't depend on the boxers, but their respective promoters. Also, the purse split matters in their decision, and to add also the venue. So after this Loma's recent fight, we will see next year, who's next for him. If not Kambosos, Haney/Davis/Garcia are on the list, I believe.
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December 13, 2021, 10:25:25 AM
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An excellent fight was shown by the fighters! Loma confidently fought the fight, he did everything so competently throughout the fight that there was no need to worry about him.

I admire Commey's resilience surviving after falling 5 rounds is very strong!

I completely agree with you about Loma being very confident in the ring, but Commey was knocked out in round 7, not 5. I'm very surprised that he was able to recover from the knockout and was able to last all 12 rounds. It was a good fight which allowed many people to increase their deposit with almost no risk.
As expected, Loma has the higher hand in this fight. Just in the 1st round, we can really see that Commey is so aggressive and always wanting to hit Loma, but Loma is calm and calculates every move and reach of Commey that's why Loma succesfully landed some combination punches in the 2nd round that almost makes Commey knocked out. After that, we can see that Commey is already trying hard to catch his breath, still I admire Commey for that, he gave his best in the fight.

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December 13, 2021, 10:35:22 AM
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It was Lomachenko all the way it's what we expect if Lomachecnko is not in injury, the speed is still there, I saw on Commey's face the frustration, he has a lot of misses if this is the Lomachecnko that will fight Lopez again, he'll be in big trouble after the Haney - Kambosos fight if it's going to happen, the winner of that match should fight Lomachecnko, he deserves to be a contender after his last two fights.

Kambosos is a very good next opponent for him, but it depends in both of their promoters. Most of the time, it doesn't depend on the boxers, but their respective promoters. Also, the purse split matters in their decision, and to add also the venue. So after this Loma's recent fight, we will see next year, who's next for him. If not Kambosos, Haney/Davis/Garcia are on the list, I believe.
Loma said post fight that he is willing to fight Kambosos anywhere. So with that, it's up to the manager of George, maybe this time it will be 50/50 split since Kambosos is the champion now.

This is the best fight for Loma because Kambosos has the belt that Loma once had and he wants to get it back. And then he go can talk about Haney/Davis/Garcia next.

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December 13, 2021, 10:39:19 AM
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Locking this thread for now.

I guess win this win, it really opens up a lot of opportunity to Loma. His first order is to fight Kambosos.

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"Yes, of course [I want the Kambosos fight], I need this chance. If God gives me this chance I take it.," Lomachenko said. "I will go anywhere I need to go to fight him."

https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-on-kambosos-i-this-chance-ill-go-anywhere-fight-him--162720

So see you next thread and hopefully this will be his next fight and it's going to be huge even in US or Australia.

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