[Boxing]: Lomachenko vs Commey - December 11

[Jating]

Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.

There is still that element of revenge of the mind of Loma against Lopez and he is still fuel by this one that's why he came back fight Nakatani knock him out and then going after Commey, a ex-champion. In the amateurs, Loma only lost once if I'm not mistaken, and he avenge his only lost and beat the guy the second time. So most likely this is his mindset to chase Lopez last time to get his revenge win.

[Kelvinid]

Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.

There is still that element of revenge of the mind of Loma against Lopez and he is still fuel by this one that's why he came back fight Nakatani knock him out and then going after Commey, a ex-champion. In the amateurs, Loma only lost once if I'm not mistaken, and he avenge his only lost and beat the guy the second time. So most likely this is his mindset to chase Lopez last time to get his revenge win.

Did Loma had a statement recently that he would still want a rematch against Lopez?

I think that doesn't make sense anymore, if Lopez does not agree with a rematch against Kambasos, then why would he give a rematch on Loma., honestly I don't see the logic, so I don't expect a rematch anymore after his loss against Kambasos.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ If there is huge money to make then maybe in the future we will see the rematch. I think boxing fans are eager to see it happening anytime soon despite the lost of Lopez.

Again, this boxers are looking for money fights besides the belt that they are going to win. Although the two doesn't have one at this point, maybe in the future it either one of them regain a belt, still good to see a rematch between the two, in my opinion.

[Hypnosis00]

^^ If there is huge money to make then maybe in the future we will see the rematch. I think boxing fans are eager to see it happening anytime soon despite the lost of Lopez.

That depends on the promoter if they will promote that fight, but of course, the final approval will be coming from Lopez as he was the one who don't like to have a rematch with Loma while Loma is just waiting for him to say yes. Maybe Loma is not anymore after of Lopez now, maybe he will take rather take Kambasos.

Again, this boxers are looking for money fights besides the belt that they are going to win. Although the two doesn't have one at this point, maybe in the future it either one of them regain a belt, still good to see a rematch between the two, in my opinion.

It's the main intention, should be the money but there's plenty of fighters to fight with, and for Loma and Kambasos, they now are in the upper hand as they are winning while Lopez has to recover from his big loss.

[aioc]

Did Loma had a statement recently that he would still want a rematch against Lopez?

I think that doesn't make sense anymore, if Lopez does not agree with a rematch against Kambasos, then why would he give a rematch on Loma., honestly I don't see the logic, so I don't expect a rematch anymore after his loss against Kambasos.

There's a report that Lopez can only get back in June of next year because of the medical reason I don't believe that he can go back this February like what his father is saying it needs time to heal the wounds, and it's a remote possibility now that Loma will face Lopez, but he can challenge Kambosos after he disposes of Commey, I believe Loma can rule the Lightweight division the Lopez fight is a temporary step back.

[wxa7115]

Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.

It depends, now that both Lomachenko and Lopez are not champions arranging a fight between the two of them should be easier as now they do not have to fight any mandatory fight, Lopez could be more motivated to fight Lomachenko to prove he is still good and to recover some of the money he lost by not accepting a rematch for the titles Lomachenko lost against him.

And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

[Questat]

Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

Loma will likely win this fight, but I guess it's not necessary for Loma to take his revenge against Lopez due to the following reasons.

1. Lopez is not the champion now, he lose against Kambasos Jr. which we call a major upset.
2. Lopez is planning to move up, so bye-bye Loma.

It depends, now that both Lomachenko and Lopez are not champions arranging a fight between the two of them should be easier as now they do not have to fight any mandatory fight, Lopez could be more motivated to fight Lomachenko to prove he is still good and to recover some of the money he lost by not accepting a rematch for the titles Lomachenko lost against him.

He did not lose any money because he made a lot during his fight with Kambasos although he lose in the fight.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32301936/george-kambosos-legal-team-asks-ibf-find-triller-default-obligation-title-fight-teofimo-lopez

According to ESPN, both fighters are set for handsome paydays from Triller's initial USD$1.2 million (AUD$1.68 million) deposit, with Lopez receiving USD$780,000 (AUD$1.09 million) and Kambosos receiving USD$420,000 (AUD$587,000).

And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

That's the scenario I like to see, Loma is going after Lopez to beat him, and I clearly believe he can avenged his lose.

[KTChampions]

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And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

I would not want to wait that long (in this case, we will see this fight no earlier than in 3-4 years), but in fact it would be epic - to catch up with an opponent who avoids revenge in another weight category and make him accept the fight there 
This can be a plot for some movie (the main thing is that Loma fulfills his task and wins this battle).

[Maslate]

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And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

I would not want to wait that long (in this case, we will see this fight no earlier than in 3-4 years), but in fact it would be epic - to catch up with an opponent who avoids revenge in another weight category and make him accept the fight there 
This can be a plot for some movie (the main thing is that Loma fulfills his task and wins this battle).

That's right after his loss against Lopez, he does not talk a lot and instead goes back to work and he won his last fight. While for Lopez, this guy's ego is questionable so I don't expect him to be a champion again if he will not change

[Kemarit]

Did Loma had a statement recently that he would still want a rematch against Lopez?

I think that doesn't make sense anymore, if Lopez does not agree with a rematch against Kambasos, then why would he give a rematch on Loma., honestly I don't see the logic, so I don't expect a rematch anymore after his loss against Kambasos.

There's a report that Lopez can only get back in June of next year because of the medical reason I don't believe that he can go back this February like what his father is saying it needs time to heal the wounds, and it's a remote possibility now that Loma will face Lopez, but he can challenge Kambosos after he disposes of Commey, I believe Loma can rule the Lightweight division the Lopez fight is a temporary step back.

Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

[molsewid]

Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

[Vaculin]

Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

Well, let's see if he will recover, Loma had a good fight after his defeat against Lopez, and now it's Lopez's turn to redeem himself and he is fighting on a heavier division so that's really interesting. Lopez will become a good challenger for the champions in that division which I believe is better than him.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

Well, let's see if he will recover, Loma had a good fight after his defeat against Lopez, and now it's Lopez's turn to redeem himself and he is fighting on a heavier division so that's really interesting. Lopez will become a good challenger for the champions in that division which I believe is better than him.

If Lopez chooses to go to 140 lbs, I think it's a good division for him as there's not much name in that weight class, so let's see his next move.

Going back to this fight, I agree that Loma will be the crowd favorite because of his pleasing style, it's not that boring and a thing of beauty seeing him move inside the ring as he is very technical fighter and sometimes he gets a knock out too which makes him a very exciting to watch.

I also like the idea of him chasing Kambosos and get the belt that he once held after he win against Commey this month.

[Silberman]

Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.

Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!

Betting for the favorite is the most logical choice to make, however if we know this then it is obvious the casinos know this as well, and what they do to try to encourage other people to bet for the underdog is to give them better odds while at the same time reducing the odds of the favorite, this means that it gets to a point that even if you think one fighter is the clear favorite the odds offered for a bet for the underdog are too good to pass up, and a bet for them to win is the right call.

[Baofeng]

Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

Well, let's see if he will recover, Loma had a good fight after his defeat against Lopez, and now it's Lopez's turn to redeem himself and he is fighting on a heavier division so that's really interesting. Lopez will become a good challenger for the champions in that division which I believe is better than him.

If Lopez chooses to go to 140 lbs, I think it's a good division for him as there's not much name in that weight class, so let's see his next move.

Going back to this fight, I agree that Loma will be the crowd favorite because of his pleasing style, it's not that boring and a thing of beauty seeing him move inside the ring as he is very technical fighter and sometimes he gets a knock out too which makes him a very exciting to watch.

I also like the idea of him chasing Kambosos and get the belt that he once held after he win against Commey this month.

Josh Taylor and then maybe Tank Davis will also move to that division because he also hold a belt here. So this is also a exciting division and there is more money to be made here.

And I don't think that Loma can go move up to 140 lbs, this is too much for him, it's better if he will stay in 135 lbs and try to clean up that division. Get back all his belt, beat Kambosos in Australia and the other regular champions.

[Kemarit]

Well probably Lopez will also need to rest to recover mentally from that humiliating lost as well. It's not just physical, most of the time, as in the case of Lopez, he is confident that he will defeat Kambosos and then a huge lost. So let's see how Loma will dispose RC here, if he goes for a KO then maybe he will call out the new champion and travel to Australia for a big fight there with George Kambosos and get his title back.

Every fighter are deserve to take rest like Lopez and distance for a while to recover from their losses especially if it really affect their health (mental health), he needs to recover or move on from his last fight with Kambosos knowing that this fight was his first defeat record that broke his undefeated title. Talking about the upcoming fight of Loma and Commey I am very certain that Loma was a crowd favorite here and yeah if Loma will dispose RC then Loma will possibly the one who were going to fight with Kambosos.

That's my point, he really need to take a break after all, the fight with Kambosos took almost a year and maybe it took a toll of Lopez mentally because of the long drama and he was affected by Covid-19 and maybe this is a factor for his lost as well.

I just beginning to think that if Loma wins against RC, the next best option for him is to go directly to Kambosos next year. Loma is also not getting any younger and he needs to take every opportunity.

[madnessteat]

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Though Lomachenko is sometimes older than his opponents he is still a very good boxer and I don't think he is going to finish his boxing career anytime soon. He is in great physical shape so I have no doubt that he will beat Commey even though he is not a bad boxer either.

[Vannie12]

I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.

[Jawhead999]

I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.

Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

[madnessteat]

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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.