I missed the boat is not new concept..

[Lucius]

Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available.

Newbies should not invest in anything risky until they know exactly what it is about, FOMO is their biggest enemy, and ignorance is a sharp sword hanging over their heads. But I also think you misunderstood a bit what @aysg76 meant, because I don't see him advising someone to invest large sums of money, but to try to learn something from the mistakes others have made in the past.

They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.

Any investor in Bitcoin (and even some altcoins) who invested a few hundred dollars a few years ago, today has a significant amount of money in their possession. Investing in the long-run has therefore proven to be a very successful and profitable way, and if someone is disappointed, angry or frustrated - one should not blame Bitcoin for that, because we all had the same chances, some took advantage of them, some did not.

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[Mpamaegbu]

Lol. I just checked that Bitcoin is now at 66k, huh?

Didn't a forecast point to $100,000 before the end of this year? I believe we still have a lot of space to fill in that one, hopefully it gets there. Like someone would say, this is the month of Movember for cryptos. This period has proved to be good for cryptos every year.

I guess the people who had those coins at an early stage and lost access to them or sold them for cheap has much to regret.

Exactly! And they are likely to be in the majority to FUD about Bitcoin whenever it begins a rally. Regret is such a nag. Generally, those who scream they missed the boat are often those who saw it cheap but were skeptical buying in, hoping price will dip further or they sold too early to cash out with the game plan of buying back which never happened. It hurts really to be in such a situation. But then, that's the price people pay for doing business.

[AakZaki]

My experience is different, I can't remember the last time I heard someone claim that Bitcoin is a scam or a fad. These days I hear more "bitcoin is bad for environment" and "blockchain technology has some merit, but other coins will replace it soon".

But I think it's not really important what some random people on the Internet or in real life say, because they are not voting with their wallets.

when bitcoin was still not as hype as it is today and achieved a lot of adoption, bitcoin was always said to be a scam even bitcoin was predicted to drop drastically until it was no longer valuable.
But the fact is that currently bitcoin is an expensive asset that is widely discussed and many investors are just starting to enter.
There is still nothing that can replace bitcoin and it has been maintained to this day.

People who say some negative things about things they don't know are certainly showing their ignorance. They will regret saying bitcoin is a scam.

[blatchcorn]

Indeed. I've read not long ago a post that tells that best moment to buy bitcoin is "now" and was always "now", whether in 2009, 2010, 2011... and so on until, yeah, now.

People said its too late to buy BTC when it was 1$, they said this again and again when it went up to 10$, 100$ and 1000$. Even today when BTC is touching 70k, we are hearing same voices. Buying BTC at ATH is not a good idea, we must buy when its bearish. 
As far as missing the opportunity is concerned, we are never in a position to predict what maximum price BTC will attain. So there is no absolute opportunity that is missed, its always open.

[NeuroticFish]

Buying BTC at ATH is not a good idea, we must buy when its bearish. 

That's correct, but it's not how human psychology works. ATH brings enthusiasm, ATH brings FOMO, ATH has bigger chance for one to open his wallet. If he has the patience to get over the next "crypto winter", he has won.
On the other hand, in a bear market people tend to wait and wait and wait again for lower price, then they're fear the price will never rise again, then.. oops, it's ATH again. And this is how some find reasons after reasons for staying away.

While I agree ATH is not a best moment to invest, if one made his mind, best is to DCA, whether there's ATH or not: buy multiple smaller amounts over longer period of time. This way one will clearly not buy always at ATH, this way one may even have the opportunity to buy the dip and the overall sentiment and investment may look really good. But, again, one has to be sure on what he's doing, one has to understand bitcoin, from what limited supply means to the market wild fluctuations and wallet security too.

[famososMuertos]

The "missed the boat" is an analogy that continues to be ephemeral and perhaps sadly used to justify itself for whatever reason, but if you analyze it in its fullness it means that it always depends on us to be there because that boat has been setting sail for new trips to new emotions to new hopes, with bitcoin the stupid thing is not to lose it once, it is to never take it, the opportunity to take it is always there in its fair measure, even the long-awaited $ 70k ticket I assure you that it still remains a good chance.

[hatshepsut93]

You still see it quite a lot, but yea the environmental argument has been getting a lot more traction recently. I guess it's simply due to the fact that "bitcoin is bad for environment" is a lot easier to grasp for the masses, whereas the scam argument takes a slight bit of brainpower lol.

It's hard to call something a scam when it existed for 12 years, has been a stunning success and there's zero evidence of things that define the word "scam". And the argument about environment is successful because environmentalism is on the rise, and there's a grain of truth to it, but no one asks what "bad for the environment" exactly means and what are the implications of it.

I'd argue that people not buying bitcoin is actually them somewhat voting with their wallets.

The fact that people are not buying Bitcoin is not affecting Bitcoin's price or Bitcoin network.

[aysg76]

Another strange thing about "boat missers", that is less common these days is that they used to always claimed that buying 1 whole bitcoin is now too expensive for them as if you only had one choice and that was buying a whole bitcoin and fractions of a bitcoin were never possible!

Totally agree on this point that first they assume they have missed the boat or some think it will not grow and were holding some other coins of their preferences and with prices rising they start to claim that buying one bitcoin is too expensive for them like at $50k ,$60k and they will continue the same lame excuses even at high and low prices also and fake out things like you can't buy the lowest denominations also in bitcoin.How in the hell they could forget that part which is you can buy btc worth $50 or low also keeping up the transactions fees and who needs to go for full Bitcoin if you can have part of it.But still they ignore this an keep on repeating new stuff and as you said we see less of them these days.



I have also been the one who missed early opportunity but didn't want to regret a lot making such excuses I missed the boat so have started to invest what i can afford and been motivating others also through this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349270.0

It's hard to call something a scam when it existed for 12 years, has been a stunning success and there's zero evidence of things that define the word "scam". And the argument about environment is successful because environmentalism is on the rise, and there's a grain of truth to it, but no one asks what "bad for the environment" exactly means and what are the implications of it.

People's, governments and banks have claimed it to be scam in the past and have made tons of allegations against it like bitcoin being used for criminal activities but now they are the ones accepting it and want to allocate more and more bitcoins due to high profits associated with it and with complete decentralization and security of funds.They know it can't be stopped so why not benefit from it and have taken back their words which is their past habit.

But I also think you misunderstood a bit what @aysg76 meant, because I don't see him advising someone to invest large sums of money, but to try to learn something from the mistakes others have made in the past.

Yes i am not suggesting anyone to allocate the huge budget towards bitcoin but only pointing out that people in the past and at current time period are not different at all and still make the same excuses that we missed the boat so instead of doing this go for investment to enjoy later on.We still are somewhat not too late and prices are $65k-$68k range and we might seem to reach more high so make some moves.

[Lucius]

Yes i am not suggesting anyone to allocate the huge budget towards bitcoin but only pointing out that people in the past and at current time period are not different at all and still make the same excuses that we missed the boat so instead of doing this go for investment to enjoy later on.We still are somewhat not too late and prices are $65k-$68k range and we might seem to reach more high so make some moves.

I'm pretty sure that one day people will regret the missed time when the price of Bitcoin was only about $60 000, just as many today feel the same when they remember how cheap Bitcoin was just a little over 1 year ago - I believe most remember what happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It is true that it is never too late to invest in Bitcoin, but it is also true that you need to know how to choose the right moment - history has shown that time just before or after halving is an ideal entry point even for those who just want short-term profit. The worst thing is to do nothing and talk all the time about what it would be like to invest in Bitcoin - some people never learn and stay on the sidelines forever.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It we way lower than $5k. On 12th March it was $4,410 to be exact now $66k plus.

There are no missing boat, missing train or missing bus or may be in the future missing rocket. Whenever one have spare fiat just buy. Keep accumulating again Dollar Cost Average. Bitcoin is not for people who buy but can not hold for at least few years.

[Coyster]

I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.   That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.

I don't think OP is actually 'encouraging' anyone to buy BTC, this post is just like a sort of reference to the past were people actually thought they had 'missed the boat', but if you look at the price of Bitcoin right now, then you'd understand that they actually didn't miss a thing at all, absolutely nothing. And then again, imo, there is actually nothing wrong about buying Bitcoin in its all time high, it isn't a pump and dump coin, and if you're not a get rich quick investor, then you'd definitely make profits in the long run. You're correct when you say people should do their own research, obviously, as an investor, you should find out about the coin you want to invest in and "invest only what you can afford to lose", but I'm pretty sure that anyone who does such research judiciously will under the history of the Bitcoin network and wouldn't be fazed to invest at absolutely anytime.

[Trojane]

The "missed the boat" is an analogy that continues to be ephemeral and perhaps sadly used to justify itself for whatever reason, but if you analyze it in its fullness it means that it always depends on us to be there because that boat has been setting sail for new trips to new emotions to new hopes, with bitcoin the stupid thing is not to lose it once, it is to never take it, the opportunity to take it is always there in its fair measure, even the long-awaited $ 70k ticket I assure you that it still remains a good chance.

You mean 70k dollars for one Btc? Well am not against BTC rising to its peak but You should even consider the flux about everything in your country right now because most peeps have these urge; eagerness to buy BTC but the government policy and the state of the country they are doesn't even permit them eat satisfactorily not to talk of buying an ASSET like BTC.
He shouldn't be lamenting about " missing any boat" , after all nobody knew bitcoin would blow up to this heist
 Most times , they would love to own as much BTC'ss as possible but gone are the days when BTC would either be mined by anyone or achieved at a peanut rate  
Trojane💎

[yagamitaichi]

The reason why i am making this thread is to make newbies aware that sometimes we feel that we already missed the boat but in reality it has not started the voyage at all.All those coins if stored safely would now be worth millions or even billions if you made the excat calculations.

There are lot of altcoins that might be shining at this time but Bitcoin has been the king of CMC from long time and will remain the same and there are more chances of growth so you better don't get eroded by all such things like you missed the boat and do the same mistake they might have done.Just jump in and enjoy and stay safe.
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Thank you for creating this thread. Now I realize that it is never too late to invest in BTC or any other coin. I found out about BTC in the middle of 2016 after my computer was hit by ransomware and the creator of the ransomware requested BTC as a means of payment to recover the data on my computer. At that time the price of BTC was approximately 434.46 $. Because I don't want to pay for it, the data on my computer couldn't be recovered. At that time I was also not interested in investing in BTC. Because I think it's just a hype that will fade with time. But I did not expect that in its journey the price of BTC has increased from year to year. Of course at the moment I can't invest in BTC because the price is very high. I am currently starting to invest in coins at an affordable price. With the hope that the coins that I have invested will benefit me in the future.

[jerry0]

Do you think later on people would say man i wished i bought btc at 60k? 

[aysg76]

I'm pretty sure that one day people will regret the missed time when the price of Bitcoin was only about $60 000, just as many today feel the same when they remember how cheap Bitcoin was just a little over 1 year ago - I believe most remember what happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It is true that it is never too late to invest in Bitcoin, but it is also true that you need to know how to choose the right moment - history has shown that time just before or after halving is an ideal entry point even for those who just want short-term profit. The worst thing is to do nothing and talk all the time about what it would be like to invest in Bitcoin - some people never learn and stay on the sidelines forever.

That's what i also wonder that how people are busy making lame excuses always when Bitcoin prices are low - "that it's not going to survive and it will be dead" and when the prices are high they say - "we miss the boat" and this will continue as always.The pandemic prior time was not much historical for bitcoin growth as they were too low but slowly when the investors find the new way to gain some profits and secure their future the prices also start to surge heavily and see now we are above the $60k at this time.Same is the situation now also.Yes it's not too late but waiting for the boat to leave will make you no coiner only and boat only have 21 million seats many occupied and rest filling out fast if you know what i mean.

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Quote the original reply or any post you want to reply in proper way as it doesn't seems right and indicates that you have written all the stuff so make it correct.

See i am only motivating you all to invest within time and not always make such excuses as it won't benefit you.But i have strictly mentioned bitcoin but if you apply the same to other shitcoins then it will not work because it's better to miss shitcoin's boat as it will sink soon so don't enter it but if still you want to do that do it on your own risk.

I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.  That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.

This is not a trading guide where i have asked newbies to invest large sums of money as i myself also don't have huge funds available to invest so why would i do that? Second this thread is only indicating to some past mistakes of the members who ignore the bitcoin importance and keep on repeating the same phrase and now regrets it so just avoid those mistakes was my concern.You are saying that i said it to buy at ATH so ask yourself people who have invested at ATH of 2017 which was around $20k are now in loss or dead? They have gained more than 4x on their investment at the current prices.It is just our way of overviewing the things so be wise man.The whole market is risky but the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future.

[aoluain]

I think there are still a lot of people who are getting interested in Bitcoin but when they
see the price of 1 full coin they are put off while not realising they can buy Satoshi's.

There are still people out there who's target is to own 1 Bitcoin, its getting more and more
difficult in this current bull market.

There are those who in the very near future will look back and realise they missed the boat
by not buying NOW.

Thumbs up to @NeuroticFish

To reference Michael Saylor (for the second time today) he stated before that he would
wake up thinking if he had bought enough, he realises the nest time to buy is NOW.

[coinism]

I'm pretty sure that one day people will regret the missed time when the price of Bitcoin was only about $60 000, just as many today feel the same when they remember how cheap Bitcoin was just a little over 1 year ago - I believe most remember what happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It is true that it is never too late to invest in Bitcoin, but it is also true that you need to know how to choose the right moment - history has shown that time just before or after halving is an ideal entry point even for those who just want short-term profit. The worst thing is to do nothing and talk all the time about what it would be like to invest in Bitcoin - some people never learn and stay on the sidelines forever.

Bitcoin price is very fluctuating these days and right now bitcoin is reaching new ATHs every other day. If someone wants to buy now then he must buy on dips or DCA (Dollar-Cost Averaging ) i.e. buy in small chunks at different prices. Investing all money at ATH is not good idea. Also you must have an exit strategy, in case market take a wild wing in down word direction.

[famososMuertos]

The "missed the boat" is an analogy that continues to be ephemeral and perhaps sadly used to justify itself for whatever reason, but if you analyze it in its fullness it means that it always depends on us to be there because that boat has been setting sail for new trips to new emotions to new hopes, with bitcoin the stupid thing is not to lose it once, it is to never take it, the opportunity to take it is always there in its fair measure, even the long-awaited $ 70k ticket I assure you that it still remains a good chance.

You mean 70k dollars for one Btc? Well am not against BTC rising to its peak but You should even consider the flux about everything in your country right now because most peeps have these urge; eagerness to buy BTC but the government policy and the state of the country they are doesn't even permit them eat satisfactorily not to talk of buying an ASSET like BTC.
He shouldn't be lamenting about " missing any boat" , after all nobody knew bitcoin would blow up to this heist
 Most times , they would love to own as much BTC'ss as possible but gone are the days when BTC would either be mined by anyone or achieved at a peanut rate  
Trojane💎

Hi,
First of all, no one should regret losing the bitcoin in its early days, if you read me I always say it, sometimes literally, sometimes not.

On the other hand, the $ 70k that I mention is not literal, it is in a figurative sense related to any price increase that Bitcoin has.

And finally, Picasso's painting cannot be bought in parts but bitcoin of course can, then the art of bitcoin is so beautiful that today it only takes $ 0.0006 ... to be part of the journey.

fM Capiche! 

[Lucius]

That's what i also wonder that how people are busy making lame excuses always when Bitcoin prices are low - "that it's not going to survive and it will be dead" and when the prices are high they say - "we miss the boat" and this will continue as always.

I believe in the theory that these are mostly people who want short-term profits, and when the price is low and relatively stable then they have no motive to invest - and when it is as high as lately, then they wait for a big correction to happen. These are actually very indecisive people, not only about Bitcoin, but mostly about everything they do in life. I know some such people in real life, and I stopped trying to understand them a long time ago - if you've been talking about something for 5+ years and you haven't done anything to make it happen, then no one can help you.

[blatchcorn]

That's correct, but it's not how human psychology works. ATH brings enthusiasm, ATH brings FOMO, ATH has bigger chance for one to open his wallet. If he has the patience to get over the next "crypto winter", he has won.

On the other hand, in a bear market people tend to wait and wait and wait again for lower price, then they're fear the price will never rise again, then.. oops, it's ATH again. And this is how some find reasons after reasons for staying away.

Such things are very well explained by Warren Buffet "Buy when everyone fears to buy and sell when everyone greedy to buy". But we do reverse of it most of the time. When someone of selling in panic during dips, someone is buying (the wise one).

While I agree ATH is not a best moment to invest, if one made his mind, best is to DCA, whether there's ATH or not: buy multiple smaller amounts over longer period of time. This way one will clearly not buy always at ATH, this way one may even have the opportunity to buy the dip and the overall sentiment and investment may look really good. But, again, one has to be sure on what he's doing, one has to understand bitcoin, from what limited supply means to the market wild fluctuations and wallet security too.

IMO don't jump with your whole capital during the bull run, even if you are doing DCA then do that with 20-30% of your capital. Its very risky when BTC is at its ATH. The wild swings can go in any direction. Its the time when Whales are selling while the amateur investor are busy buying.