[Boxing]: GGG vs Murata - Reschedule

[agustina2]

I am not aware that GGG and Canelo has this kind of rivalry issue during their last fight. I mean, I do agree that if they have this kind of issue then maybe a rematch will be a great solution for those fans who are not satisfied with the decision or result of their fight. However, this TIME i guess GGG should priority this scheduled fight of him vs. Murata it's because this fight is also one of the anticipated fight and I bet would be a challenging fight for him too.

There's actually no issue but some fans just want a 3rd fight. Their first meeting is DRAW. Their second meeting was won by Canelo. That's why 3rd fight was requested to end the chapter. But for me, it won't likely happen as Canelo is now busy on his own. There's no chance that GGG will be inserted into his busy schedule. And while it taking too long, GGG is aging.

GGG should just fight anyone until his body won't cooperate. Forget Canelo.

[Rufsilf]

It is normal if the name of Canelo surfaces every time the name GGG is talked about. That is expected because they have an unfinished business. They both are involved in a fierce rivalry. Not to mention that the results of their two fights were all controversial. When they had their first fight, both of them claimed victory despite the split decision draw that was made official. The second fight, Canelo won but still very controversial because many believed GGG won. That's why there is a strong demand for a trilogy to seal the controversy once and for all.

But of course they will have to finish their other business first like this Murata fight for GGG.

If they'll hear the fans and they want to make money, then for sure they'll fight, or  Canelo will give GGG a chance to fight with him before he will officially retire. GGG is going 40 years old this year, which is near retirement age. Hope that would happen this year, otherwise, we should not expect anymore.

How loud should the boxing fans be so that they will both hear them? I guess it is clear enough that the demand of the fans is for them to face once more and seal the score between them. I think even GGG himself is chasing Canelo but Canelo is now avoiding a third fight. I think he is now pursuing other fighters and not anymore interested to face GGG for the third time. If it won't happen soon, that fight prospect should better be shelved. It is unfair if Canelo would only face a much older GGG.

Oh well, I think we did our part to call for Canelo to have another fight with GGG. But it seems him and his team fall on deaf ears already, so we are now giving up.

GGG is now going to face another tough champion in Murata and let's hope that the fight can happen in 2022. GGG is not getting young and could just have a couple of fights in him. So he needs this fight very badly and seal his legacy without Canelo's name.

They became deaf because they ignored the call for a reason that they aren't interested anymore of the said trilogy, the fans sure do want it but Canelo and his team don't as they're looking forward now about Canelo's new path on climbing heavier weights and defeating Ilunga Makabu and become a five-weight class champion.
On the other hand, GGG may get past that trilogy case already as he knew that he ain't in the perfect shape anymore and he should focus more on fighting Murata and try another opponent if he can get past Murata.

[wxa7115]

I don't know, but it seems that Canelo has close the door already, he will be going up in weight as CW and that is too much for GGG right now who campaigns at 160 lbs. So I already forget about that idea of another fight between the two.

And as you have said, GGG is already 40 and we don't know how many fight is left in him. Maybe against Murata this year and another one perhaps before the end of the year.

I agree, the door for a possible trilogy against Canelo is complete closed and it is never going to happen with Canelo moving to the CW division, also many people saw GGG win at least one of those fights so I doubt that Canelo is going to want to fight against GGG despite his age.

And talking about his age, what is happening with the pandemic is something terrible for people like GGG, which are at the end of their careers and saw their careers interrupted with no opportunity to get all the time they lost back.

[Hypnosis00]

I don't know, but it seems that Canelo has close the door already, he will be going up in weight as CW and that is too much for GGG right now who campaigns at 160 lbs. So I already forget about that idea of another fight between the two.

And as you have said, GGG is already 40 and we don't know how many fight is left in him. Maybe against Murata this year and another one perhaps before the end of the year.

I agree, the door for a possible trilogy against Canelo is complete closed and it is never going to happen with Canelo moving to the CW division, also many people saw GGG win at least one of those fights so I doubt that Canelo is going to want to fight against GGG despite his age.

And talking about his age, what is happening with the pandemic is something terrible for people like GGG, which are at the end of their careers and saw their careers interrupted with no opportunity to get all the time they lost back.

It's hard to imagine that the pandemic has been staying for too long, though it interrupts the sporting industry I'm still hoping soon our life will be back to normal and we will see GGG retiring after a good fight. Though it's unlikely to happen a GGG vs Canelo trilogy, we will still remain hopeful because it was one of the greatest matches up we saw in boxing history, two great warriors sparring in the ring like they are not afraid of each other.

[Lanatsa]

I don't know, but it seems that Canelo has close the door already, he will be going up in weight as CW and that is too much for GGG right now who campaigns at 160 lbs. So I already forget about that idea of another fight between the two.

And as you have said, GGG is already 40 and we don't know how many fight is left in him. Maybe against Murata this year and another one perhaps before the end of the year.

I agree, the door for a possible trilogy against Canelo is complete closed and it is never going to happen with Canelo moving to the CW division, also many people saw GGG win at least one of those fights so I doubt that Canelo is going to want to fight against GGG despite his age.

And talking about his age, what is happening with the pandemic is something terrible for people like GGG, which are at the end of their careers and saw their careers interrupted with no opportunity to get all the time they lost back.

It's hard to imagine that the pandemic has been staying for too long, though it interrupts the sporting industry I'm still hoping soon our life will be back to normal and we will see GGG retiring after a good fight. Though it's unlikely to happen a GGG vs Canelo trilogy, we will still remain hopeful because it was one of the greatest matches up we saw in boxing history, two great warriors sparring in the ring like they are not afraid of each other.

Im not expect that much for this pandemic situation would be over yet lots of variants do come out from one to another which this would really be might an endless if there would be no cure would be created.

Lots of industries had been mainly affected and delaying up these events and schedules which do really sucks speaking of Canelo vs GGG trilogy then we shouldn't
really anticipate or hope that much for it to happen.

Murata might be a champion but I don't believe that he could beat out GGG on this current state of his.

[Hypnosis00]

I don't know, but it seems that Canelo has close the door already, he will be going up in weight as CW and that is too much for GGG right now who campaigns at 160 lbs. So I already forget about that idea of another fight between the two.

And as you have said, GGG is already 40 and we don't know how many fight is left in him. Maybe against Murata this year and another one perhaps before the end of the year.

I agree, the door for a possible trilogy against Canelo is complete closed and it is never going to happen with Canelo moving to the CW division, also many people saw GGG win at least one of those fights so I doubt that Canelo is going to want to fight against GGG despite his age.

And talking about his age, what is happening with the pandemic is something terrible for people like GGG, which are at the end of their careers and saw their careers interrupted with no opportunity to get all the time they lost back.

It's hard to imagine that the pandemic has been staying for too long, though it interrupts the sporting industry I'm still hoping soon our life will be back to normal and we will see GGG retiring after a good fight. Though it's unlikely to happen a GGG vs Canelo trilogy, we will still remain hopeful because it was one of the greatest matches up we saw in boxing history, two great warriors sparring in the ring like they are not afraid of each other.

Im not expect that much for this pandemic situation would be over yet lots of variants do come out from one to another which this would really be might an endless if there would be no cure would be created.

Lots of industries had been mainly affected and delaying up these events and schedules which do really sucks speaking of Canelo vs GGG trilogy then we shouldn't
really anticipate or hope that much for it to happen.

Murata might be a champion but I don't believe that he could beat out GGG on this current state of his.

The pandemic is really the big hindrance for the big fights to be realized, maybe GGG would retire without having a trilogy fight with Canelo, but that's alright though, at least we will see him have more fights and continue winning. Murata on the other hand is younger than GGG but is not a young fighter as he is already 36 years old, so you are right, at this state he cannot beat GGG.

It's 41 fights vs 16 fights. I'll go with the more experienced boxer.

[Dave1]

I don't know, but it seems that Canelo has close the door already, he will be going up in weight as CW and that is too much for GGG right now who campaigns at 160 lbs. So I already forget about that idea of another fight between the two.

And as you have said, GGG is already 40 and we don't know how many fight is left in him. Maybe against Murata this year and another one perhaps before the end of the year.

I agree, the door for a possible trilogy against Canelo is complete closed and it is never going to happen with Canelo moving to the CW division, also many people saw GGG win at least one of those fights so I doubt that Canelo is going to want to fight against GGG despite his age.

And talking about his age, what is happening with the pandemic is something terrible for people like GGG, which are at the end of their careers and saw their careers interrupted with no opportunity to get all the time they lost back.

It's hard to imagine that the pandemic has been staying for too long, though it interrupts the sporting industry I'm still hoping soon our life will be back to normal and we will see GGG retiring after a good fight. Though it's unlikely to happen a GGG vs Canelo trilogy, we will still remain hopeful because it was one of the greatest matches up we saw in boxing history, two great warriors sparring in the ring like they are not afraid of each other.

Yes, the pandemic really affected us for too long now, when we thought that we are now at least trying to go back to normal, here comes a new variant of the virus causing another disruption like this fight that we should have witnessed already by this time.

And GGG is not getting any younger and hard to imagine him not getting the fights he wanted before retiring. Not Canelo per se, but other champions in the division like the young Charlo.

[Pamadar]

Yes, the pandemic really affected us for too long now, when we thought that we are now at least trying to go back to normal, here comes a new variant of the virus causing another disruption like this fight that we should have witnessed already by this time.

And GGG is not getting any younger and hard to imagine him not getting the fights he wanted before retiring. Not Canelo per se, but other champions in the division like the young Charlo.

It's getting better before this new variant. Now he needs to wait as this fight got cancelled till further notice.

You said it right, GGG is not getting any younger if possible. He still wants to fight known
fighter from this division before getting his way out of the ring.

Murata is a good passage way to bring his name up. If he can knock him down, he might bring noise to his name
and receive good title offer. We never know though..

[Fundamentals Of]

But Canelo's avoidance of a third fight with GGG will always be an interesting note in his otherwise outstanding career. Just as we do today, history will probably also question the real reason why he didn't allow a great third match with GGG to happen. All kinds of speculation would be put forward. But it will only raise more curiosity. It will never answer the boxing fans' deep question.

I disagree with that. Avoidance like Canelo was defeated lol. Canelo already sealed that fight. The public won't take that as an issue since Canelo is working on his way now to beat the top fighters on the next stage. GGG is already not on that top fighters list so why still insist that a trilogy is needed?

It's even good to see Canelo facing Charlo compared to GGG. There are others fighters too that Canelo needs to settle in. Those fights are much exciting and thrilling compare to the trilogy with an old GGG.

Is anybody saying there is a need for a trilogy? I didn't say a trilogy is needed. But I know there is a very strong demand, or at least there was, of a trilogy.

As I've said, both of their previous two fights are highly controversial. The first one was a split draw but both camps claimed their fighters won the fight. The second one was equally controversial with a majority decision in favor of Canelo. But the GGG camp and many boxing fans believed GGG won the fight.

I cannot remember whether it was the first or second fight that I tried to score, but there was one fight which I remembered I gave the win to GGG. I am a fan of both fighters.

The only way to settle controversies is to have a third fight. But that's pointless now.

[freedomgo]

But Canelo's avoidance of a third fight with GGG will always be an interesting note in his otherwise outstanding career. Just as we do today, history will probably also question the real reason why he didn't allow a great third match with GGG to happen. All kinds of speculation would be put forward. But it will only raise more curiosity. It will never answer the boxing fans' deep question.

I disagree with that. Avoidance like Canelo was defeated lol. Canelo already sealed that fight. The public won't take that as an issue since Canelo is working on his way now to beat the top fighters on the next stage. GGG is already not on that top fighters list so why still insist that a trilogy is needed?

It's even good to see Canelo facing Charlo compared to GGG. There are others fighters too that Canelo needs to settle in. Those fights are much exciting and thrilling compare to the trilogy with an old GGG.

Is anybody saying there is a need for a trilogy? I didn't say a trilogy is needed. But I know there is a very strong demand, or at least there was, of a trilogy.

As I've said, both of their previous two fights are highly controversial. The first one was a split draw but both camps claimed their fighters won the fight. The second one was equally controversial with a majority decision in favor of Canelo. But the GGG camp and many boxing fans believed GGG won the fight.

I cannot remember whether it was the first or second fight that I tried to score, but there was one fight which I remembered I gave the win to GGG. I am a fan of both fighters.

The only way to settle controversies is to have a third fight. But that's pointless now.

If the trilogy would still be a controversial fight then the fans would still demand another fight, it will be a never-ending fight, LOL. However, if both really want to make a lot of money, they will grant the request of the fans as the fans are willing to pay for the ticket and to buy the PPV subscription, good business for them.

[Rufsilf]

But Canelo's avoidance of a third fight with GGG will always be an interesting note in his otherwise outstanding career. Just as we do today, history will probably also question the real reason why he didn't allow a great third match with GGG to happen. All kinds of speculation would be put forward. But it will only raise more curiosity. It will never answer the boxing fans' deep question.

I disagree with that. Avoidance like Canelo was defeated lol. Canelo already sealed that fight. The public won't take that as an issue since Canelo is working on his way now to beat the top fighters on the next stage. GGG is already not on that top fighters list so why still insist that a trilogy is needed?

It's even good to see Canelo facing Charlo compared to GGG. There are others fighters too that Canelo needs to settle in. Those fights are much exciting and thrilling compare to the trilogy with an old GGG.

Is anybody saying there is a need for a trilogy? I didn't say a trilogy is needed. But I know there is a very strong demand, or at least there was, of a trilogy.

As I've said, both of their previous two fights are highly controversial. The first one was a split draw but both camps claimed their fighters won the fight. The second one was equally controversial with a majority decision in favor of Canelo. But the GGG camp and many boxing fans believed GGG won the fight.

I cannot remember whether it was the first or second fight that I tried to score, but there was one fight which I remembered I gave the win to GGG. I am a fan of both fighters.

The only way to settle controversies is to have a third fight. But that's pointless now.

If the trilogy would still be a controversial fight then the fans would still demand another fight, it will be a never-ending fight, LOL. However, if both really want to make a lot of money, they will grant the request of the fans as the fans are willing to pay for the ticket and to buy the PPV subscription, good business for them.

I'm a bit curious here, like for example, what if a trilogy will come to reality and GGG will win?
So that means their scores will be tied to 1-1, does that mean that they have to fight again to settle who will win?

Folks, what I'm trying to say here is that @freedomgo was right as this will lead to a never ending fight and I really doubt that GGG can still handle that one as he's already aging and that can be his weakness. No offense, but I think it's a bit pointless and vague demanding an almost impossible fight because Canelo and his team were clear that they aren't interested making the trilogy real.

[carlisle1]

I'm a bit curious here, like for example, what if a trilogy will come to reality and GGG will win?
So that means their scores will be tied to 1-1, does that mean that they have to fight again to settle who will win?

Folks, what I'm trying to say here is that @freedomgo was right as this will lead to a never ending fight and I really doubt that GGG can still handle that one as he's already aging and that can be his weakness. No offense, but I think it's a bit pointless and vague demanding an almost impossible fight because Canelo and his team were clear that they aren't interested making the trilogy real.

For now, that's the exclamation point, Canelo's team is not interested that's why they went up to another division.

If in case there's a chance for them the advantage still favoring Canelo, it's been mentioned that age is the big factor, Alvarez still on his prime

his body will be more solid while GGG even his routine remains the same, but his aging body will be his disadvantage.

Not comparing, but look what happened to Pacquiao. He knows that he can still fight and win but his body unable to hold those cramps leading him

losing to Ugas and finally retired.

[mirakal]

I'm a bit curious here, like for example, what if a trilogy will come to reality and GGG will win?
So that means their scores will be tied to 1-1, does that mean that they have to fight again to settle who will win?

Folks, what I'm trying to say here is that @freedomgo was right as this will lead to a never ending fight and I really doubt that GGG can still handle that one as he's already aging and that can be his weakness. No offense, but I think it's a bit pointless and vague demanding an almost impossible fight because Canelo and his team were clear that they aren't interested making the trilogy real.

For now, that's the exclamation point, Canelo's team is not interested that's why they went up to another division.

If in case there's a chance for them the advantage still favoring Canelo, it's been mentioned that age is the big factor, Alvarez still on his prime

his body will be more solid while GGG even his routine remains the same, but his aging body will be his disadvantage.

Not comparing, but look what happened to Pacquiao. He knows that he can still fight and win but his body unable to hold those cramps leading him

losing to Ugas and finally retired.

We will never know until we will see them fight again. What if the case of GGG is different compared to Pacman? we know that Pacman was not 100% focus in boxing because he is also active in politics, and maybe that was the reason why he lose in his fight with Ugas, but GGG I think is only focus with boxing, and that is the difference.

[harizen]

If in case there's a chance for them the advantage still favoring Canelo, it's been mentioned that age is the big factor, Alvarez still on his prime

And if we think about the timeline for the possibility of Alvarez vs GGG III, it will take about a couple of years early since Canelo has already more lineup on his plan. GGG during that time will be on his 41st or 42nd which is now considered as too veteran fighting against the prime.

The only thing I can think about if we will say we really have to see the third bout between these two is, if Canelo will lose on all his next scheduled fights.

[goinmerry]

We will never know until we will see them fight again. What if the case of GGG is different compared to Pacman? we know that Pacman was not 100% focus in boxing because he is also active in politics, and maybe that was the reason why he lose in his fight with Ugas, but GGG I think is only focus with boxing, and that is the difference.

I got your point. GGG doesn't have any activities that will ruin his mind during the preparations, unlike Manny Pacquiao that thinks he can handle multiple and various tasks at the same time and the result is, he is being upset by a challenger that is already out of the topic and competition until that boxer won a fight against Manny.

But since the chance of a third fight between GGG and Canelo has a low chance to happen, what we are ended up with is sharing speculations.

[Fatunad]

We will never know until we will see them fight again. What if the case of GGG is different compared to Pacman? we know that Pacman was not 100% focus in boxing because he is also active in politics, and maybe that was the reason why he lose in his fight with Ugas, but GGG I think is only focus with boxing, and that is the difference.

I got your point. GGG doesn't have any activities that will ruin his mind during the preparations, unlike Manny Pacquiao that thinks he can handle multiple and various tasks at the same time and the result is, he is being upset by a challenger that is already out of the topic and competition until that boxer won a fight against Manny.

But since the chance of a third fight between GGG and Canelo has a low chance to happen, what we are ended up with is sharing speculations.

Those reasons are unacceptable yet you lost which is total lost and there would be no reasoning after that telling about those tasks and work involved externally.When you are still a boxer
you would really need to maintain out your body shape and being ready at all cost.

Trilogy against Canelo is impossible and it would be better if GGG would focus out on winning fights as he do gets older and retire on having a good record.

[Fundamentals Of]

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If the trilogy would still be a controversial fight then the fans would still demand another fight, it will be a never-ending fight, LOL. However, if both really want to make a lot of money, they will grant the request of the fans as the fans are willing to pay for the ticket and to buy the PPV subscription, good business for them.

I'm a bit curious here, like for example, what if a trilogy will come to reality and GGG will win?
So that means their scores will be tied to 1-1, does that mean that they have to fight again to settle who will win?

Folks, what I'm trying to say here is that @freedomgo was right as this will lead to a never ending fight and I really doubt that GGG can still handle that one as he's already aging and that can be his weakness. No offense, but I think it's a bit pointless and vague demanding an almost impossible fight because Canelo and his team were clear that they aren't interested making the trilogy real.

A boxing rivalry does not have to be in threes. Canelo and GGG don't have to fight three times. A trilogy is not interesting most of the time. In the case of Canelo and GGG, a trilogy is in demand only because the rivalry wasn't resolved with their two fights. In one of their fights, Canelo won but the victory was controversial. It wasn't even unanimous. If there will be a third fight and one of them wins in a convincing way, why would there be a need for another fight?

[TopTort777]

Don't forget that GGG will turn 40 in 3 months. How long he should fight more ? Maybe one or two years maximum. The best days of GGG are gone. To be able to compete with Canelo now, he must train for like 200% or 300% harder. If he faces Canelo now, who has gained experience fighting better opponents than GGG, their fight will end with unanimous decision in Canelo favour. They both don't need that fight. As well as they will ask so huge rewards for their third fight, that not every organization could afford that.

[Yaunfitda]

Don't forget that GGG will turn 40 in 3 months. How long he should fight more ? Maybe one or two years maximum. The best days of GGG are gone. To be able to compete with Canelo now, he must train for like 200% or 300% harder. If he faces Canelo now, who has gained experience fighting better opponents than GGG, their fight will end with unanimous decision in Canelo favour. They both don't need that fight. As well as they will ask so huge rewards for their third fight, that not every organization could afford that.

Well he might turn old overnight in this fight for all we know because he is on the stage wherein his prime years might be over for him. Being inactive then he has to wait till this pandemic is over before he can fight Murata. So it will really have a effect on him physical and emotional. As this point, he can't really compete with Canelo even at 160 lbs. Canelo is too good right now and it's possible that GGG can be knock out by Canelo if they ever face again.

[Xinarae*]

Agreed boxing has been defeated many times against GGG canillo he needs more experience about the game. The fight between murata and canillo again makes both rivals real professionals, and if the aforementioned two opponents start a real fight on social networks murata and canillo behave more modestly. Become a big test it's a chance to fight GGG to get a chance to fight them but the whole career has to work hard to reach this stage.