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Question: Who will win in this fight?
GGG - 26 (100%)
Murata - 0 (0%)
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March 11, 2022, 01:11:12 PM
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GGG is still the favorite in the bookies but if i were to put the odds i would give 2.5 for Murata because he is a very live underdog and we all know that GGG is not getting any younger anymore and that may reflect on his performance against this tough Japanese boxer.

IMO, that trilogy with Canelo would not be an exciting one if you are really following boxing. They should have stage that months after the rematch because we all knew that GGG is aging while Canelo is peaking so critics might tagged this a cherry picky fight once again.
You are right, however, Canelo is going to fight against Bivol, and GGG, despite being older than Canelo, has a good chance of winning, the truth is that sometimes you can count on experience, so much so that many of the Fans already find the fight boring, I really believe that boxing is taking many turns, things are changing, the mere fact of rescheduling is already something that bores, and they are leaving the best match as the last option because what is happening in Right now, the boxing industry is looking for a lot of business models where they make a lot of money.


Yes ofcourse, we can't neglect that the boxing industry is also business industry giving entertainment in exchange of money and that's how boxers are getting paid. In the same sense, they're bring the best events at the last option so that all fights before the main event will sure have people watching even if they're just there for the main event.
Canelo is also wise, before he does not want to fight GGG again because he already won and giving him another fight is a risky move to Canelo as he surely knows that among the boxers he have fought, only GGG has the capabilities to give him another defeat. Now, he is open to fight GGG again because he's already old and the risk are somehow minimized.

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March 12, 2022, 05:13:38 PM
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Yes ofcourse, we can't neglect that the boxing industry is also business industry giving entertainment in exchange of money and that's how boxers are getting paid. In the same sense, they're bring the best events at the last option so that all fights before the main event will sure have people watching even if they're just there for the main event.
Canelo is also wise, before he does not want to fight GGG again because he already won and giving him another fight is a risky move to Canelo as he surely knows that among the boxers he have fought, only GGG has the capabilities to give him another defeat. Now, he is open to fight GGG again because he's already old and the risk are somehow minimized.

If Canelo is showing interest fighting GGG, I'm on the side of money matters.

Yes, GGG is no longer in his prime and the chance is slim, unlike before when he suffers that loss from Alvarez, he still
capable back then to fight back and try winning.

Now the possibilities are still open, just need to win both of the upcoming fights. Afterwards, they can discuss the deal
between them if they both take care of their respective fights.
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March 12, 2022, 06:01:41 PM
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GGG is still the favorite in the bookies but if i were to put the odds i would give 2.5 for Murata because he is a very live underdog and we all know that GGG is not getting any younger anymore and that may reflect on his performance against this tough Japanese boxer.

IMO, that trilogy with Canelo would not be an exciting one if you are really following boxing. They should have stage that months after the rematch because we all knew that GGG is aging while Canelo is peaking so critics might tagged this a cherry picky fight once again.
You are right, however, Canelo is going to fight against Bivol, and GGG, despite being older than Canelo, has a good chance of winning, the truth is that sometimes you can count on experience, so much so that many of the Fans already find the fight boring, I really believe that boxing is taking many turns, things are changing, the mere fact of rescheduling is already something that bores, and they are leaving the best match as the last option because what is happening in Right now, the boxing industry is looking for a lot of business models where they make a lot of money.

Both need to win their respective fight though to have more hype in they are going at it this September. But the chances are very high so most likely we will see them fighting for the trilogy.

Only thing that will go against GGG is age, but we will see. Perhaps GGG can still box and could be very hungry to avenge his lost to Canelo which for him is the blemish in his long and storied career. And there are also boxing fans who think that he really won the series against Canelo and he is the only one that gives Canelo a hard time.

For now the trilogy is just a hype but the deal and contract has already been laid out already by Canelo's promoter, Eddie Hearn. The only thing left for this fight is to be arranged and that GGG will sign it, and I don't have any doubts that GGG won't sign it as he's the one who called it recently and we don't know this is going to be his last.

GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we know what he's capable to do and IMO, except Mayweather, GGG is the only boxer that could possibly pull an upset to Canelo.

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March 12, 2022, 06:07:11 PM
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GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we know what he's capable to do and IMO, except Mayweather, GGG is the only boxer that could possibly pull an upset to Canelo.
That's not a problem because Murata is not a type of fighter that would give GGG trouble, in fact, I believe that it will be the other way around and bookies already know that as evidenced by the betting odds of this fight.

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Golovkin is listed as the -700 favorite in this fight
That's how heavy favorites he is.

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March 12, 2022, 09:44:28 PM
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Yes ofcourse, we can't neglect that the boxing industry is also business industry giving entertainment in exchange of money and that's how boxers are getting paid. In the same sense, they're bring the best events at the last option so that all fights before the main event will sure have people watching even if they're just there for the main event.
Canelo is also wise, before he does not want to fight GGG again because he already won and giving him another fight is a risky move to Canelo as he surely knows that among the boxers he have fought, only GGG has the capabilities to give him another defeat. Now, he is open to fight GGG again because he's already old and the risk are somehow minimized.

If Canelo is showing interest fighting GGG, I'm on the side of money matters.

Yes, GGG is no longer in his prime and the chance is slim, unlike before when he suffers that loss from Alvarez, he still
capable back then to fight back and try winning.

Now the possibilities are still open, just need to win both of the upcoming fights. Afterwards, they can discuss the deal
between them if they both take care of their respective fights.
smartest minded canelo had a good choice and yes GGG is the only fighter that can give him another defeat if he will fight it. And this fight GGG vs murata and the outcome of this fight is still GGG will win I think canelo will prepared to that cause ggg wants to fight against with him, just  in my opinion. Triple G and alvarez rematch is on the way.
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March 13, 2022, 03:49:42 AM
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https://www.gamblingsites.org/news/has-date-change-affected-odds-golovkin-vs-murata/
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Golovkin is listed as the -700 favorite in this fight
That's how heavy favorites he is.
It seems like many people think Murata doesn't even have chance to beat GGG, this similar like Pacquaio was heavy favorited compared to Ugas. Watching the previous Murata's fight, he have though chin and power punch but he's slow. This is another test for matured GGG, does he's faster than Murata or not. GGG might lose if he's slower than before, I believe the fight will last for 12 rounds .
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March 13, 2022, 04:09:30 AM
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https://www.gamblingsites.org/news/has-date-change-affected-odds-golovkin-vs-murata/
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Golovkin is listed as the -700 favorite in this fight
That's how heavy favorites he is.
It seems like many people think Murata doesn't even have chance to beat GGG, this similar like Pacquaio was heavy favorited compared to Ugas. Watching the previous Murata's fight, he have though chin and power punch but he's slow. This is another test for matured GGG, does he's faster than Murata or not. GGG might lose if he's slower than before, I believe the fight will last for 12 rounds .

Good analysis, we will see if age has affected GGG since he is in 40's or if he is still aggressive and fight like he is on his prime. Murata is going to be a good test for GGG here, not discounting an upset but it can happen because Murata is a live underdog. I have him like another Japanese figher Nakatani, who is also a very hard fighter, fought Lopez, give him a hard time, lost to Loma, but a good come from behind win against the then top fighter Felix Verdejo.

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March 13, 2022, 11:32:06 AM
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It seems like many people think Murata doesn't even have chance to beat GGG, this similar like Pacquaio was heavy favorited compared to Ugas. Watching the previous Murata's fight, he have though chin and power punch but he's slow. This is another test for matured GGG, does he's faster than Murata or not. GGG might lose if he's slower than before, I believe the fight will last for 12 rounds .

If this fight goes the distance then more likely GGG will get the judge's nod because of the money involved in the Canelo vs GGG trilogy, boxing politics will always ruin this sport  Sad.

Murata will give GGG a run for his money and I would not be surprised if the Japanese fighter would win this match as I think he is a very live underdog while GGG is slowing down.
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March 14, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
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GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we know what he's capable to do and IMO, except Mayweather, GGG is the only boxer that could possibly pull an upset to Canelo.
That's not a problem because Murata is not a type of fighter that would give GGG trouble, in fact, I believe that it will be the other way around and bookies already know that as evidenced by the betting odds of this fight.

https://www.gamblingsites.org/news/has-date-change-affected-odds-golovkin-vs-murata/
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Golovkin is listed as the -700 favorite in this fight
That's how heavy favorites he is.

I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

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March 14, 2022, 02:03:39 PM
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https://www.gamblingsites.org/news/has-date-change-affected-odds-golovkin-vs-murata/
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Golovkin is listed as the -700 favorite in this fight
That's how heavy favorites he is.
It seems like many people think Murata doesn't even have chance to beat GGG, this similar like Pacquaio was heavy favorited compared to Ugas. Watching the previous Murata's fight, he have though chin and power punch but he's slow. This is another test for matured GGG, does he's faster than Murata or not. GGG might lose if he's slower than before, I believe the fight will last for 12 rounds .

I also noticed about that, I think they are really underestimating this Japanese boxer against GGG. Well honestly, I cannot deny that I also hope that GGG will win on this fight and that he's still the GGG we really know but I can't even assure it myself because Murata is not an ordinary boxer and he have some chance to stand against GGG who's now quite matured.

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March 14, 2022, 11:03:35 PM
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I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

Murata is currently hot? I tend to disagree bro. His previous fights can't be labeled as the same caliber with GGG even already aged. Not even a closed one. Murata is also way past his prime at 36 years old.

But yes, maybe we can't just conclude things right away that he won't stand a chance. Who knows after all.

The only advantage is, the fight will be in his hometown and that will boost his confidence, at least.

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I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

Murata is currently hot? I tend to disagree bro. His previous fights can't be labeled as the same caliber with GGG even already aged. Not even a closed one. Murata is also way past his prime at 36 years old.

But yes, maybe we can't just conclude things right away that he won't stand a chance. Who knows after all.

The only advantage is, the fight will be in his hometown and that will boost his confidence, at least.

There's definitely no way that we can exactly tell what would be the outcome of this match until they're finished fighting, even the so called boxing enthusiasts cannot forecast it. But per stats, GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we can't took away the part that he is also a former pound for pound king so he's quite a dangerous boxer rather than Murata.

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March 15, 2022, 11:42:33 PM
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I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

Murata is currently hot? I tend to disagree bro. His previous fights can't be labeled as the same caliber with GGG even already aged. Not even a closed one. Murata is also way past his prime at 36 years old.

But yes, maybe we can't just conclude things right away that he won't stand a chance. Who knows after all.

The only advantage is, the fight will be in his hometown and that will boost his confidence, at least.

There's definitely no way that we can exactly tell what would be the outcome of this match until they're finished fighting, even the so called boxing enthusiasts cannot forecast it. But per stats, GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we can't took away the part that he is also a former pound for pound king so he's quite a dangerous boxer rather than Murata.
Comparing into its experience and fight overall then it is clear as day that GGG is really ahead or at advantage excluding the age of course which might really be having some impact but lets

see on how he would handle out that kind of flaw which is totally cant be avoided or ignored on every boxer that do goes into this age.I dont see any upsets though
even they do say that Murata is good but it isnt really just enough to be on the same level of GGG. He do still needs lots of experience before he could
able to cope up.

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March 15, 2022, 11:54:55 PM
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I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

Murata is currently hot? I tend to disagree bro. His previous fights can't be labeled as the same caliber with GGG even already aged. Not even a closed one. Murata is also way past his prime at 36 years old.

But yes, maybe we can't just conclude things right away that he won't stand a chance. Who knows after all.

The only advantage is, the fight will be in his hometown and that will boost his confidence, at least.

There's definitely no way that we can exactly tell what would be the outcome of this match until they're finished fighting, even the so called boxing enthusiasts cannot forecast it. But per stats, GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we can't took away the part that he is also a former pound for pound king so he's quite a dangerous boxer rather than Murata.

GGG was around 36 years old when faces Canelo Alvarez for their rematch.

Still, he was able to put Canelo on his limits and remember that Canelo is in his prime at that time. Now at 39 years old and will be on his 40th on the day of the match against Murata, I don't see any difference nor lack of strength even after 3 years, especially if what we are talking about is against Murata.

I disagree that GGG's age is a disadvantage unless he takes a long rest prior to this fight against Murata.

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March 15, 2022, 11:59:16 PM
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I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

Murata is currently hot? I tend to disagree bro. His previous fights can't be labeled as the same caliber with GGG even already aged. Not even a closed one. Murata is also way past his prime at 36 years old.

But yes, maybe we can't just conclude things right away that he won't stand a chance. Who knows after all.

The only advantage is, the fight will be in his hometown and that will boost his confidence, at least.

There's definitely no way that we can exactly tell what would be the outcome of this match until they're finished fighting, even the so called boxing enthusiasts cannot forecast it. But per stats, GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we can't took away the part that he is also a former pound for pound king so he's quite a dangerous boxer rather than Murata.

GGG was around 36 years old when faces Canelo Alvarez for their rematch.

Still, he was able to put Canelo on his limits and remember that Canelo is in his prime at that time. Now at 39 years old and will be on his 40th on the day of the match against Murata, I don't see any difference nor lack of strength even after 3 years, especially if what we are talking about is against Murata.

I disagree that GGG's age is a disadvantage unless he takes a long rest prior to this fight against Murata.

The age factor was already defied by Pacquiao when he beat Thurman before. So for me, it is just a number, and I am more on the physical activity of the boxer. If GGG is keeping his body in shape throughout the years, it won't be hard beating Murata, even if he is much younger than GGG. But look at their age, GGG turning 40 this year, whereas, Murata just turned 36 this January. For me, it is not a very wide gap in age. But we need to see this fight this year. Should not be delayed any longer.
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March 16, 2022, 01:59:22 AM
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I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

Murata is currently hot? I tend to disagree bro. His previous fights can't be labeled as the same caliber with GGG even already aged. Not even a closed one. Murata is also way past his prime at 36 years old.

But yes, maybe we can't just conclude things right away that he won't stand a chance. Who knows after all.

The only advantage is, the fight will be in his hometown and that will boost his confidence, at least.

There's definitely no way that we can exactly tell what would be the outcome of this match until they're finished fighting, even the so called boxing enthusiasts cannot forecast it. But per stats, GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we can't took away the part that he is also a former pound for pound king so he's quite a dangerous boxer rather than Murata.

GGG was around 36 years old when faces Canelo Alvarez for their rematch.

Still, he was able to put Canelo on his limits and remember that Canelo is in his prime at that time. Now at 39 years old and will be on his 40th on the day of the match against Murata, I don't see any difference nor lack of strength even after 3 years, especially if what we are talking about is against Murata.

I disagree that GGG's age is a disadvantage unless he takes a long rest prior to this fight against Murata.

The age factor was already defied by Pacquiao when he beat Thurman before. So for me, it is just a number, and I am more on the physical activity of the boxer. If GGG is keeping his body in shape throughout the years, it won't be hard beating Murata, even if he is much younger than GGG. But look at their age, GGG turning 40 this year, whereas, Murata just turned 36 this January. For me, it is not a very wide gap in age. But we need to see this fight this year. Should not be delayed any longer.

I agree. I hate the delays on GGG fights. GGG is already turning 40 next month. Age may just be a number but never in boxing. There are boxers that could still win fights in their 40s but that cannot be compared when they are at their prime. And boxers are always at their prime in the years before 40. So I don't think we could simply disregard age. But when it comes to Murata, I think GGG could handle him very well.
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March 16, 2022, 02:44:38 AM
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I doubt about that, yes GGG have the advantage about ring IQ and experience and per stats but we cannot deny that GGG is slowing down as he's aging every single day while Murata is still hot. Being a heavy favorite will not determine the actual outcome because there's still a lot of factor that needs to be considered.
All I got to say is that while Murata is an underdog, he is also capable and have a chance to upset GGG.

Murata is currently hot? I tend to disagree bro. His previous fights can't be labeled as the same caliber with GGG even already aged. Not even a closed one. Murata is also way past his prime at 36 years old.

But yes, maybe we can't just conclude things right away that he won't stand a chance. Who knows after all.

The only advantage is, the fight will be in his hometown and that will boost his confidence, at least.

There's definitely no way that we can exactly tell what would be the outcome of this match until they're finished fighting, even the so called boxing enthusiasts cannot forecast it. But per stats, GGG's age can be his disadvantage but we can't took away the part that he is also a former pound for pound king so he's quite a dangerous boxer rather than Murata.

GGG was around 36 years old when faces Canelo Alvarez for their rematch.

Still, he was able to put Canelo on his limits and remember that Canelo is in his prime at that time. Now at 39 years old and will be on his 40th on the day of the match against Murata, I don't see any difference nor lack of strength even after 3 years, especially if what we are talking about is against Murata.

I disagree that GGG's age is a disadvantage unless he takes a long rest prior to this fight against Murata.

The age factor was already defied by Pacquiao when he beat Thurman before. So for me, it is just a number, and I am more on the physical activity of the boxer. If GGG is keeping his body in shape throughout the years, it won't be hard beating Murata, even if he is much younger than GGG. But look at their age, GGG turning 40 this year, whereas, Murata just turned 36 this January. For me, it is not a very wide gap in age. But we need to see this fight this year. Should not be delayed any longer.

I guess age as a factor is different for every fighters. And one big factor about it is how the boxer manages his weight throughout the years specially if they are not fighting. Fighters like Manny and Bernard Hopkins really take care of their body that's why they were able to fight in their 40's. So we can only speculate at this point if GGG has really aged or not. The real test will be in the ring against Murata.

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^^ We speculate that GGG can still pull the trigger, and that he is still the heavy puncher between the two. Although there could be argument that he has tone down his agressive, that's why his trainer is pushing him to go back to his form in this fight in preparation of a Canelo clash. And speaking of Canelo, he said that GGG is talking too much and he wanted to shut GGG's mouth for good.

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March 16, 2022, 08:25:15 AM
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^^ We speculate that GGG can still pull the trigger, and that he is still the heavy puncher between the two. Although there could be argument that he has tone down his agressive, that's why his trainer is pushing him to go back to his form in this fight in preparation of a Canelo clash. And speaking of Canelo, he said that GGG is talking too much and he wanted to shut GGG's mouth for good.

Did literally Canelo Alvarez said that to GGG? If so, I also want to read or see that video Cheesy That's interesting!

Whooah! Seems that things are getting hot even if the fight is not yet final because GGG still haven't sign that specific contract on fighting Canelo this September as he's busy training for his upcoming fight against Murata. Definitely, it's hard to choose between GGG and Canelo because both of them is really capable on winning.
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^^ We speculate that GGG can still pull the trigger, and that he is still the heavy puncher between the two. Although there could be argument that he has tone down his agressive, that's why his trainer is pushing him to go back to his form in this fight in preparation of a Canelo clash. And speaking of Canelo, he said that GGG is talking too much and he wanted to shut GGG's mouth for good.

Did literally Canelo Alvarez said that to GGG? If so, I also want to read or see that video Cheesy That's interesting!

Whooah! Seems that things are getting hot even if the fight is not yet final because GGG still haven't sign that specific contract on fighting Canelo this September as he's busy training for his upcoming fight against Murata. Definitely, it's hard to choose between GGG and Canelo because both of them is really capable on winning.
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“Yeah, it’s personal. He talks a lot of sh!t,” insists Alvarez. “He says a lot of things. We’ll see.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-on-golovkin-trilogy-yeah-its-personal-he-talk-lot-sht-says-lot-things--164776

This could just be Canelo trying to motivate and fuel his fire for the 3rd fight. As others have said, Canelo is not interested on a trilogy but since GGG has been chasing him for years and bad mouthing him, maybe this is the reason he would agree now.

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