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November 20, 2021, 10:51:16 PM
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Since Canelo is moving to a higher level in the championship it will not be that easy for and no one should except much from him particularly now that is going to face an expert in that level who has lost fight since the last five years and not just that but has had 25 knockout win out of 28 victories.

Of course, moving up in weight is not that easy specially gaining 10-20 lbs. And obviously, this is not Canelo's natural weight. But we've seen how great Canelo is, and he is chasing more greatness by moving to a new weight classes. I wouldn't call  Ilunga Makabu a expert, he has losses already. The timing is right for Canelo to move up and win another belt and faces one of the weakest champion in the Cruiserweight division.

A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done.

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November 21, 2021, 08:52:28 AM
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A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done.

Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge.
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November 21, 2021, 09:33:56 AM
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We might see a version of Canelo like this:  Grin



However, this is a very complicated situation for Canelo, he will be going up again and our body can only take that much of muscles and fats. Maybe he won't be that fast anymore because of all the weight that he is going to carry. The power though might still be there, but this is not his weight class.

it will be very interesting to see the build-up so we'll have the general idea on what the fight will look like, the additional 30 pounds is quite huge, Canelo must have a good nutritionist and conditioning coach so he can carry his speed and power on that weight division, of course, the ring generalship is still there, but the additional weight will make an impact, it's up to Canelo's body to react if he can maintain the speed and power.
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November 21, 2021, 10:04:19 AM
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^^ For sure he will get the services of the best nutritionist out there, hmm, I just thinking maybe he will get Memo Heredia? Although we all know that Memo has a shady past, but he has cleared his name and been with many boxers and helping them out in the last 10 years.

And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

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November 21, 2021, 12:24:28 PM
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A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done.

Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge.

I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him.

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November 21, 2021, 01:01:02 PM
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A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done.

Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge.

I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him.

I agree, let's see how Canelo will handle a full CW power once Makabu landed a solid punch on him.

We all know that Canelo has a tough chin, however, this is a unknown territory for him. So as much as he is great and at his prime, he will have to adjust to the new weight. His speed and timing, everything has to be affected. If he pass this test, then definitely, Canelo up there with the best all time greats.

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November 21, 2021, 01:28:14 PM
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A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done.

Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge.

I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him.

I agree, let's see how Canelo will handle a full CW power once Makabu landed a solid punch on him.

We all know that Canelo has a tough chin, however, this is a unknown territory for him. So as much as he is great and at his prime, he will have to adjust to the new weight. His speed and timing, everything has to be affected. If he pass this test, then definitely, Canelo up there with the best all time greats.

He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea.

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.


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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

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November 21, 2021, 01:43:31 PM
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I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him.

He might have a knock out power but Canelo is never a punching bag Problem of all those he fought and beaten is how they can connect to a fighter who knows how to roll and make you miss and counter punch or attack at the same time, Mukabu just announced that he will knock out Canelo, that's what Canelo's opponent has said, Mukabu belt will just become additional to Canelo's legacy.

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November 21, 2021, 05:26:54 PM
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A trainer as great as Eddie Reynoso and a boxer as great as Canelo knows the extend of what they can do and they know how to do it, they both know that they can beat Makabu they already scout him, they don't just pick a guy to fight, they know they have a very good chance beating him, Makabu is good and a hard puncher but he can only beat Canelo if he can catch him clean with a solid punch, but the big question can he do that against Canelo, Makabu posted that he will knock out Canelo, he can do that if he can connect, but he must first find a way to make it happen, with Canelo that's easier said than done.

Absolutely true, for sure the camp of Canelo had already assessed Ilangu Makabu before they accept the offer of before they finalizes their decision. Canelo is a great fighter in his recent division and I believe that even he might go up in step ahead from his division he will perform the same skills inside the ring however, of course we also knew that the quality and kind of fighters line up in the higher division was also a great fighter, so I think it would be a fight that Canelo will be challenge.

I believe in Canelo, there's nothing I would doubt on him but he is not in his division, he will be facing a heavy fighter with a great KO power. Of course, the majority of the fans would go for Canelo as he is the popular boxer, but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu can do against Canelo which is smaller than him.
Canelo is a popular face, if he has been playing within his weight category then this could've been a pre decided match winning for Canelo. Here Canelo is facing the fighter of next level which makes people think of the opponent. The match has added more expectation than other matches because two fighters of different weight category are involved.

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November 21, 2021, 05:51:47 PM
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Canelo is currently in high confidence after beating Plant a while back and he now wants a new adventure in a different class.
but Ilunga Makabu is not a fighter to be underestimated, his record is quite impressive and might even be called terrible by not losing for the last few years.
this is something worth waiting for whether magic and superior canelo will still continue or be stuck in Makabu's hands.

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November 22, 2021, 01:11:25 AM
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I can see nothing special with Ilunga Makabu. The man may be bigger and heavier but I guess Canelo is very much in his peak right now. I think Canelo can dismantle this boxer easily. Compared to Caleb, I think Makabu is the easier opponent. This man might only end up being a punching against Canelo. Since he has a bigger body, he will just become a bigger and easier target. Canelo's power is a destroyer. Makabu will likely end up knocked out.

You have to consider that Canelo is the one stranger in Makabu's division.

It's different from what happened in Caleb Plant where Canelo is already used to fighting on that division. Makabu will welcome Canelo at his convenient zone. I will never treat this fight against Makabu as easier compare to Caleb Plant.

I understand that Canelo is entering uncharted waters here but let's leave that to his team of nutritionists and conditioning experts. It adds to making the job easier that Canelo is willingly choosing this path. I guess it makes him more challenged knowing that he is already the king in super middleweight.

I don't think Canelo will find it hard to adjust to a heavier body. After all he is not the kind of fighter who dances around and is dependent on speed which are what's going to be affected by an increase in body size and weight.
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November 22, 2021, 05:53:49 AM
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He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea.

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.


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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you.
You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it.

I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo.
However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight.

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November 22, 2021, 06:22:14 AM
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He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea.

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.


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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you.
You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it.

I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo.
However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight.

I guess the +500 for Makabu is very attractive, we haven't seen Canelo fight against a heavier and bigger figher, so we don't know if he can bring his power and speed here that's why it's nice to gamble on the underdog, just don't put a lot of money because +500 would already give a satisfying return if you win.
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November 22, 2021, 01:38:56 PM
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He wouldn't move up in weight if he feels, he cannot do it, we've seen him fight and we saw how great he is. He is a hard working fighter, he will do everything to win and since he achieve the highest success in his division, moving up in weight is always a great idea.

And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.


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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Well, that's what excellent fighters does. Move up when you think you have the momentum and nobody else in your current weight division is capable of beating you.
You're right, Canelo won't climb up the ladder if he thinks he's not ready for it.

I think the odds has a huge difference, I mean Makabu ain't a mediocre boxer. He has power, hand speed, head movements, and the ability to go toe-to-toe against Canelo.
However, I still favor Canelo in this match up, and I feel like Makabu can really match Canelo in this fight.

I guess the +500 for Makabu is very attractive, we haven't seen Canelo fight against a heavier and bigger figher, so we don't know if he can bring his power and speed here that's why it's nice to gamble on the underdog, just don't put a lot of money because +500 would already give a satisfying return if you win.

If not, check for the odds at over/under money line.
If Canelo decided to climb up, it means, he is confident that he can perform on this weight division.
Let's wait for the odds given by crypto bookies as they don't have it yet.
This fight will be worth watching as Canelo is a very good fighter.
Not familiar with Makabu but his record is quite good also, so Canelo should be preparing hard for this one.
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November 22, 2021, 03:43:15 PM
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And by the way, I just checked and see the odds are already available, and it favors on Canelo.
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Canelo Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu Odds
Boxer   Odds
Saul “Canelo” Alvarez   -700
Ilunga Makabu   +500
https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Damn, those odds are definitely attractive. I might actually pull the plug and gamble against Canelo in this case. While I do understand that Canelo is undisputed the greatest boxer in his weight division, increasing it more and fighting boxers in CW may pose some danger given the fact that this would be the first time that he will be doing this.

Though the Canelo's fight against Caleb Plant showed on how dominant he can be in the ring, fighting a boxer in CW is one of those fights that one punch could seal the deal to either boxers. Due to this factor and the odds, I would vote against Canelo and for Makabu.
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November 22, 2021, 10:07:47 PM
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We might see a version of Canelo like this:  Grin



However, this is a very complicated situation for Canelo, he will be going up again and our body can only take that much of muscles and fats. Maybe he won't be that fast anymore because of all the weight that he is going to carry. The power though might still be there, but this is not his weight class.

it will be very interesting to see the build-up so we'll have the general idea on what the fight will look like, the additional 30 pounds is quite huge, Canelo must have a good nutritionist and conditioning coach so he can carry his speed and power on that weight division, of course, the ring generalship is still there, but the additional weight will make an impact, it's up to Canelo's body to react if he can maintain the speed and power.
This is my main worry, such a huge increase on body mass is difficult to handle even for regular people, but here we are talking about an athlete that needs to give the best possible performance possible so it is even harder, after all no fighter knows how are they going to react with so much additional weight, however there is the possibility he has made some tests and increased that much weight during the pandemic and he found his performance to be acceptable, so this is why Canelo and his trainer seem to be so convinced this is the right move for them.
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November 23, 2021, 11:29:30 AM
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And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol).

I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again.

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November 23, 2021, 01:12:51 PM
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And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol).

I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again.

Now that Canelo has already decided, I'm sure it's a good decision and he is a real champion because he didn't stay in one division only after he became an undisputed fighter. Everyone is excited to see him again, the name Canelo will never be forgotten in boxing and fans loved him so much because of his being a humble boxer.
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November 23, 2021, 07:56:59 PM
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I thought that he will eventually move up a division but I thought that at first he could defend his titles once or twice before moving up, this proves the guy is ambitious and it is not afraid to make bold moves, it is going to be interesting to see if he can adjust to the division, after all the heavier the boxer the heavier the punches, so while in his division he was known as someone with a lot of punching power this is not going to necessarily remain true the higher he moves up.

He already made history being an undisputed champion in his current division, so there's no reason to stay and still continue defending his title. He is trying to challenge himself as most of his wins are easy wins, against a heavier and bigger opponent he might struggle, but we can't make a conclusion unless we see him fight.
You are right but that is precisely why I thought he could remain in the division for longer as defending his titles against some of the boxers he has beaten or a new challenger would be easy money for him, however this tells me the guy really wants to prove himself to be one of the best boxers alive at the moment and he is not afraid to take such a risk at this point of his career, I think it will work out for him but I want to see if he can maintain his current speed and increase his punching power after gaining all that weight.
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November 23, 2021, 11:23:51 PM
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And Canelo will be making another history for Mexican boxing here if he beat Makabu and take his cruserweight title.

Then he already signed his name in boxing hall of fame when he beat Kovalev and won light heavy WBO title (which, if not mistaken, he instantly resigned and made vacant lol).

I hope that Canelo will stay in cruiserweight, or drop to light heavy. Because there is nothing left for him to do in middleweight. He should made all this titles in middleweight vacant, get belts in more heavy division, and then get back to middleweight and beat everyone again.
LightHW might be a good weight class for Canelo to settle, and there is a good champion in Bivol, and I think Canelo can beat him as well.

So maybe after the CW campaign and he won the belt, maybe he will go down and chase and clean up the LightHW for good, similar to what he did in MW and super MW and then retire with only the Floyd lost on his career.

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