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November 26, 2021, 08:29:17 AM
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even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match.
On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well
Might not be fast but punches were strong which he should really be that not too confident when it comes to his defenses or in overall he shouldnt really be that too careless.

Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier
but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue.
he is a pretty good boxer and can adjust quickly especially when he is in the ring I feel canelo is a different person.
but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did.
it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu

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November 26, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
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even so now is a big challenge for canelo because indeed he has just stepped on a heavier class than before even though he is indeed very strong but this is a new class and he may have to adjust his strategy again in this match.
On the other hand, Makabu is also very big and actually Canelo's speed is quite superior because if I saw the previous Makabu match he was a boxer who was not fast enough and Canelo had to take advantage of this well
Might not be fast but punches were strong which he should really be that not too confident when it comes to his defenses or in overall he shouldnt really be that too careless.

Stepping on heavier division does really need adjustment because speed is one of the most common factor that would be mainly affect yet you had become heavier
but well for something like Canelo then it wouldnt really be that much of an issue.
he is a pretty good boxer and can adjust quickly especially when he is in the ring I feel canelo is a different person.
but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did.
it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu
That could possibly happen if the boxer is not careful, there's no exemption even Canelo. However, knowing Canelo, he is not a type of boxer who is careless, he is slow starter and he always make sure he will win in the end, so he will likely win here but I doubt he can win by KO.
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November 26, 2021, 06:56:24 PM
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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.
Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?
Who knows but maybe that words of Makabu might be true because he's capable of eleminating opponents from his lethal punches and his record can really back him up.
That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field.
The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.



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November 26, 2021, 09:32:57 PM
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Ilunga Makabu has told Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez he is making a big mistake moving up to cruiserweight and insists he will ‘100 per cent’ knock the Mexican superstar out.
Source: Ilunga Makabu vows he will knockout Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez as Mexican will give away TWO STONE in cruiserweight title fight

You know, I didn't expect Canelo to "give away" 20 lbs (no FAT CANELO lol) and I'm not sure he still has powerful punches since cruiserweight boxers maybe all punch as hard as him. But if you believe this really happened, then, who knows!?
Who knows but maybe that words of Makabu might be true because he's capable of eleminating opponents from his lethal punches and his record can really back him up.
That's why even if it's just 6months preparation for Canelo, he should train twice as possible because he's entering another division that aren't his mastery field.
The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.
He has to have a speed advantage in order to win against a natural heavier boxer. AFAIK, Canelo does not have that speed, he is more reliant on his power and his boxing skills, so there's really a chance that he will not succeed, however, based on the betting odds, we can clearly determine that people are expecting him to win against Makabu who is an unknown fighter for most of us.

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November 26, 2021, 09:47:32 PM
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After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.


When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.
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November 27, 2021, 05:46:12 AM
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After becoming undisputed champion at super middleweight Canelo is now prepared for his next challenge. He will be moving up two weight classes to face WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. This opponent is not very well known but he has a high knockout percentage with 25 KOs in 28 victories and he has not had a loss in over 5 years. It will be an impressive feat if Canelo can become champion at cruiserweight after starting his career fighting in the jr. welterweight division.


When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

A good achievement and another start for his name to rally in this new division, Canelo got a good and established name from his last weight after beating Plant, now that he's moving up, good preparation will give him the chance of beating Makabu, though you are right 2 more additional weight is not something that you can easily adopt.

But more than 6 months is fair enough to work with everything. He can start gaining weight now and have extra workout to make sure that
he's ready to compete when the date arrives.

Skills and talent wise, he has both just need to be experience this new weight division and fit himself to proceed to this new journey.

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November 27, 2021, 08:32:49 AM
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When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight.

Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient.

Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class.
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November 27, 2021, 08:41:26 AM
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When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight.

Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient.

Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class.

And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight.

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November 27, 2021, 09:10:58 AM
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And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight.

As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

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November 27, 2021, 07:16:48 PM
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he is a pretty good boxer and can adjust quickly especially when he is in the ring I feel canelo is a different person.
but indeed as you said maybe the macabu is not fast enough but the shot is very crazy and even I remember when he managed to beat Kudryashov some time ago at that time the macabu shot was so terrible especially the hook he did.
it's not impossible that if canelo is not careful he will be made like Kudryashov by ending up battered at the hands of Makabu
That could possibly happen if the boxer is not careful, there's no exemption even Canelo. However, knowing Canelo, he is not a type of boxer who is careless, he is slow starter and he always make sure he will win in the end, so he will likely win here but I doubt he can win by KO.
I admit he is very smart in every way when he is in the ring but Makabu doesn't seem too willing to compromise with his punches.
Canelo needs to keep an eye on the macabu maneuver especially for his hard hook.
I think he will be able to do that because he is now so confident in his abilities and record.

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November 28, 2021, 04:44:23 AM
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The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict.
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November 28, 2021, 10:20:11 AM
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The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict.

It will be an opportunity for Makabu to fight Canelo, I mean Alvarez is already a legend and if he retires for sure in years to come his name will come up as the fighter that Canelo faces in the CW and beat.  Smiley

Who knows, Canelo might still carry his power at this weight division because he will not need to diet and make the desired weight. All he has to do is eat a lot and maybe hit the gym for muscle and then train in the gym.
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November 28, 2021, 10:42:15 AM
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And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight.

As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

It's probably how Canelo's body is built, so he has to thank his parents for his gene because he is stocky so he can carry a lot of weight and still be muscular at the same time. Of course there nothing to beat a good set of discipline and having good people around you to really help developed your skills thru hard training and that's how Canelo was able to maintain and always go 100% on his every fight including this big challenge ahead of him.

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November 28, 2021, 06:00:42 PM
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And I think Canelo said that he can fight 2-3 every year, so 4-6 months between fights is ample for him as he is getting used to it. Although he will moving up in weight class, there will be no adjusted for him. He might be walking right now above 170 lbs and then goes on training and gain 10 lbs more because that's what his target in this fight, at least 180 lbs, to absorb the punches of a legitimate cruiserweight.

As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

It's probably how Canelo's body is built, so he has to thank his parents for his gene because he is stocky so he can carry a lot of weight and still be muscular at the same time. Of course there nothing to beat a good set of discipline and having good people around you to really help developed your skills thru hard training and that's how Canelo was able to maintain and always go 100% on his every fight including this big challenge ahead of him.

And the good thing with Canelo is he is not a trash talker. Based from the photos, it seems Alvarez & Makabu are good friends, unlike the recent Lopez vs Kambosos fight, which ended up as an upset, and the thing was, Lopez was confident that he will win on this fight. But with this match, Canelo seems confident to move up so it means, he can do this fight. He has the discipline of a boxer, so let's watch this upcoming fight. Waiting for the odds from sportsbooks...
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November 29, 2021, 06:09:46 PM
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The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict.
We will have to wait and see if Canelo actually fights Makabu, it seems he needs to have a mandatory fight and his opponent is not taking the step aside money because he thinks he can win, and in that case he is the one that will face Canelo and get a lot more money from that fight than whatever he could get from the step aside money, however assuming that Makabu wins it is still going to be a difficult fight for Canelo as he will have no time to adjust to the division and will fight one of the champions right away.



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November 29, 2021, 09:16:31 PM
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And the good thing with Canelo is he is not a trash talker. Based from the photos, it seems Alvarez & Makabu are good friends, unlike the recent Lopez vs Kambosos fight, which ended up as an upset, and the thing was, Lopez was confident that he will win on this fight. But with this match, Canelo seems confident to move up so it means, he can do this fight. He has the discipline of a boxer, so let's watch this upcoming fight. Waiting for the odds from sportsbooks...

Canelo always does the right discipline in the ring, if his opponent does not trash-talk him, then nothing would happen, besides, he doesn't need to throw some trash talk to sell his fight as everyone knows him, especially that he recently made history becoming an undisputed champion on his division, and now trying to go up in weight to face a new challenge. There's nothing to criticize a boxer who likes to keep on new challenges, and that is Canelo which is a good example for boxers who like to be successful in their career.

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November 30, 2021, 01:28:27 AM
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The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict.
We will have to wait and see if Canelo actually fights Makabu, it seems he needs to have a mandatory fight and his opponent is not taking the step aside money because he thinks he can win, and in that case he is the one that will face Canelo and get a lot more money from that fight than whatever he could get from the step aside money, however assuming that Makabu wins it is still going to be a difficult fight for Canelo as he will have no time to adjust to the division and will fight one of the champions right away.

As far a I know, this is verbally been approved by WBC already during their convention so most likely this fight will push thru without any problems or hitch and the mandatory will have to wait for the results. I guess this is the perks of being the best fighter right now, Canelo can just requested the governing body that he wants to fight and challenge their Cruiserweight champion. And Makabu can't do anything about it because he will get a lot of money fighting Canalo.

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^ Right, this is already a good and both parties have agreed already, so would just have to work out the split and the purse bid. But for sure Canelo will get the lion share, nevertheless Makabu should also get a good share like 20-30% and that will be huge for him as CW is not known to have money fights in the past and it is sandwich between LHW and HW in which there is more money.

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November 30, 2021, 11:13:10 AM
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That will be a good test for Canelo btw. Cruiserweight starts from 91kg, while his current, supper middleweight is 76kg. Gaining 15% of your own body mass I think is a lot. And if a person is not used to being so heavy, that might cause a discomfort in movement as minimum. I dont know Canelos usual weight between fights, and his weight on the ring (this is always different from what you show on the scales), but gaining 10kg changes a person completely. We dont know Makabu true weight in the ring also. One day he is 91, next day he is 95.

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November 30, 2021, 12:08:29 PM
 #120

As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now.

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