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November 30, 2021, 05:09:29 PM
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When i first read this news or heard about the rumor i thought at first that this next fight comes pretty quick because canelo just have fought a few weeks ago and you should never have too many fights in a short period of time. Now i have read that the fight is planned to happen around May or June 2022 and then it is more than enough time between canelos last fight and the fight against Makabu. Going up 2 weight classes is always dangerous though and i really hope that canelo is still fast enough to show a good performance and a spectacular fight. If he manages to win this one then he really has achieved something great.

As usual for every boxer, it should be at least 4-6 months after their next fight.

Since Canelo is moving up weight class, 6 months of training is efficient.

Canelo wants to achieve another milestone in his career. Defeating Makabu is one step toward another undisputed goal on his chosen weight class.
Yes, 6 months of preparation would be enough and fine if the fighter isn't badly injured in his last fight. In Canelo's case, he should be suitalbe enough to fight the 5-year undefeated champ. Makabu is without a doubt powerful well-built big man who's weight is already suitable for CW but for Canelo, his preparation includes adding some weight, so I guess Canelo wouldn't be as fast as we used to see in his recent matches.
I think for now there's no assurance who will win this match because both fighters are tough, so I guess this match is about exchanging big blows without backing up or getting knocked out. We'll see it soon, next year!
As for Canelo, there's no reason stated why he jumped in CW. But I'm sure there's some serious reasons behind it.

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November 30, 2021, 08:06:33 PM
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As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now.
The sport of boxing has probably one of the most brutal training regimes that we can imagine, obviously other sports have their own difficult training as well but in boxing every single aspect of your physique needs to be trained to perfection, for example many people think that boxers mostly train how to punch but that is only a small part of their training, they need to have a very rigorous endurance training so their stamina lasts for 60 minutes, and they need to even train how to take hits from their opponents, something that must not be pleasant at all.
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November 30, 2021, 08:24:43 PM
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As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now.
The sport of boxing has probably one of the most brutal training regimes that we can imagine, obviously other sports have their own difficult training as well but in boxing every single aspect of your physique needs to be trained to perfection, for example many people think that boxers mostly train how to punch but that is only a small part of their training, they need to have a very rigorous endurance training so their stamina lasts for 60 minutes, and they need to even train how to take hits from their opponents, something that must not be pleasant at all.

Correct! it's not just how to punch but to develop good stamina, it's a balance that boxers need to perfect.

More body movements together with your good skills, it isn't just how to convert punches but more on the defensive ends.
If you want to excel from this sport, you need not to stop from increasing your training routine.

Both Alvarez and Makabu know that they will do extra to make sure that they are well prepared when the fight happens.
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November 30, 2021, 11:33:44 PM
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As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now.
The sport of boxing has probably one of the most brutal training regimes that we can imagine, obviously other sports have their own difficult training as well but in boxing every single aspect of your physique needs to be trained to perfection, for example many people think that boxers mostly train how to punch but that is only a small part of their training, they need to have a very rigorous endurance training so their stamina lasts for 60 minutes, and they need to even train how to take hits from their opponents, something that must not be pleasant at all.

Well I think boxing training has developed in the last 20 years, trainers are now including lots of discipline in a boxing training as well. So obviously, it's not just the power, speed, (fast twist muscles, specially when Manny Pacquiao comes along as he is so fast and explosive), and then timing and reflexes (eye coordination), and then stamina, (short burst running). So for sure, Canelo has all of this training behind close door, what we are just seeing in public is that he is throwing punch in a mitt or something or shadow boxing.

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December 01, 2021, 09:33:45 PM
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As we speak, Canelo might be over 170lbs now. He shouldn't have difficulty fighting in a much heavier division because his body is already used to it. I'm really amazed at these boxers. How can you maintain over 170lbs with a big muscular body? The usual weight of that is playing at around 200lbs. Their training and discipline are really to the highest level.

It's the fruit of their hard work every day, as ordinary people, we cannot imagine how they managed to get that amazing build. It's not just the workout but their healthy diet holds a strong contribution to it. Imagine how fast and strong he is right now in their weight division combining his big body in just 170lbs. Their training is really good and it will cause a lot of stress for his opponent on how to defeat him in his current strength right now.
The sport of boxing has probably one of the most brutal training regimes that we can imagine, obviously other sports have their own difficult training as well but in boxing every single aspect of your physique needs to be trained to perfection, for example many people think that boxers mostly train how to punch but that is only a small part of their training, they need to have a very rigorous endurance training so their stamina lasts for 60 minutes, and they need to even train how to take hits from their opponents, something that must not be pleasant at all.

Well I think boxing training has developed in the last 20 years, trainers are now including lots of discipline in a boxing training as well. So obviously, it's not just the power, speed, (fast twist muscles, specially when Manny Pacquiao comes along as he is so fast and explosive), and then timing and reflexes (eye coordination), and then stamina, (short burst running). So for sure, Canelo has all of this training behind close door, what we are just seeing in public is that he is throwing punch in a mitt or something or shadow boxing.

It's more advance now due to the improvement of science, they can use a lot of factor to make a boxer better, and in the case of Canelo, we can always say that he improved a lot especially his power and stamina, in fact, in most of his fights, his win pretty looks convincing and he was never listed as an underdog except the fight against Mayweather.

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December 01, 2021, 11:43:44 PM
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There has been a change of plans in this fight,

Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29.

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World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman indicates that Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will face the winner of the upcoming rematch between WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu and mandatory challenger Thabiso Mchunu.

It was believed that Canelo would fight Makabu for the cruiserweight belt on Cinco De Mayo weekend in May.

But, Mchunu would not step aside from his mandatory shot - so he will fight Makabu on January 29th at the Packard Music Hall in Warren, Ohio.

Promoter Don King, who will stage the Makabu-Mchunu event, expects Canelo to be ringside for the fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422

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December 01, 2021, 11:48:34 PM
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^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu.

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December 01, 2021, 11:59:55 PM
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^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu.

This will be good for Canelo as he has time to prepare for the fight as he is moving up the weight division.
Also, with the fight between Makabu & Mchunu, Canelo will further assess the boxing style of either two fighters.
That will assist him on what strategy he needs to play inside the ring.
As he moves up the ladder, he needs to look out for all angles so as to be prepared on this fight.
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December 02, 2021, 12:27:33 AM
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^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu.

This will be good for Canelo as he has time to prepare for the fight as he is moving up the weight division.
Also, with the fight between Makabu & Mchunu, Canelo will further assess the boxing style of either two fighters.
That will assist him on what strategy he needs to play inside the ring.
As he moves up the ladder, he needs to look out for all angles so as to be prepared on this fight.

Yep, as the articles says, Canelo for sure will be in the ringside live to watch how to 190 - 200 lbs fight each other and either one of them will the potential opponent of him in May. So Canelo will have all the time to prepare had a good plan, make the weight or at least go to 180 lbs because that is what he wanted to be in the fight. So at all angles, Canelo will have the advantage of this two fighting each other in front of him.

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December 02, 2021, 02:48:13 AM
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^^ I think it's better that way for Canelo, because if will take time for him to go chase Makabu as they wanted it to happen on Cinco de Mayo. So Makabu can still defend his title in a rematch win some money and then go for Canelo in the States in May, still doable for him if I'm not mistaken. Again, unless Mchunu has other plans to derail the fight and won against Makabu.

This will be good for Canelo as he has time to prepare for the fight as he is moving up the weight division.
Also, with the fight between Makabu & Mchunu, Canelo will further assess the boxing style of either two fighters.
That will assist him on what strategy he needs to play inside the ring.
As he moves up the ladder, he needs to look out for all angles so as to be prepared on this fight.

Yep, as the articles says, Canelo for sure will be in the ringside live to watch how to 190 - 200 lbs fight each other and either one of them will the potential opponent of him in May. So Canelo will have all the time to prepare had a good plan, make the weight or at least go to 180 lbs because that is what he wanted to be in the fight. So at all angles, Canelo will have the advantage of this two fighting each other in front of him.

WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

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December 02, 2021, 09:10:15 AM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

This is just a speculation, we have an old saying style that makes a fight, there will be no changes in the style and power of both fighters when they faced Canelo and Canelo will have no advantages whoever wins between the two, all these three boxers have already established their power and style, it cannot be defined by one fight alone it goes on who implemented their skills and power the most when they meet, and between the two Canelo has the more polished skills.

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December 02, 2021, 10:52:34 AM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

Well then it's a great time indeed for Canelo to prepare for his fight against Makabu if this will be push through in near future. I know Canelo is such a great boxer and he's undoubtedly has undefeated record but yeah this kind of opportunity of seeing his soon to be opponent fighting in the ring will be his basis on what kind of strategy does he need to prepare or does he has anything to improve to himself. Though I have a gut that Canelo will be a winner in case, I don't also set aside the potential and skill of Makabu this man is also a great fighter.
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December 02, 2021, 11:56:37 AM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

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December 02, 2021, 01:26:37 PM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable.

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December 02, 2021, 02:10:48 PM
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That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable.

Their team may be biting what they can chew, but this is boxing great boxers never know their limitation until they tested themself, that is why we have Manny Pacquiao an eight-division world champion, and Canelo has a lot to offer and he wants to extend himself, forget the cherry-picking thing he wants to fight champions to add more titles and prestige to his name, he knows he is not young forever and wants to accomplish a lot.

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That's is his advantage, is punching power because he is the bigger guy, but Canelo has been in many battles and he has a tough chin and strong body, so he will surely survive and win this fight. I'm so sure but I'm still open of a possibility of upset as Canelo is so hype now that fans think he is almost unbeatable.

Their team may be biting what they can chew, but this is boxing great boxers never know their limitation until they tested themself, that is why we have Manny Pacquiao an eight-division world champion, and Canelo has a lot to offer and he wants to extend himself, forget the cherry-picking thing he wants to fight champions to add more titles and prestige to his name, he knows he is not young forever and wants to accomplish a lot.

Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate.

for those who are not aware of the division in boxing, here are the list.

https://www.britannica.com/sports/boxing/Weight-divisions

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minimumweight, 105 pounds (48 kg)
light flyweight, 108 pounds (49 kg)
flyweight, 112 pounds (51 kg)
super flyweight, 115 pounds (52 kg)
bantamweight, 118 pounds (53.5 kg)
super bantamweight, 122 pounds (55 kg)
featherweight, 126 pounds (57 kg)
super featherweight, 130 pounds (59 kg)
lightweight, 135 pounds (61 kg)
super lightweight, 140 pounds (63.5 kg)
welterweight, 147 pounds (67 kg)
super welterweight, 154 pounds (70 kg)
middleweight, 160 pounds (72.5 kg)
super middleweight, 168 pounds (76 kg)
light heavyweight, 175 pounds (79 kg)
cruiserweight, 200 pounds (91 kg)
heavyweight, unlimited

Canelo is fight on cruiserweight now.

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December 02, 2021, 03:04:03 PM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

Well then it's a great time indeed for Canelo to prepare for his fight against Makabu if this will be push through in near future. I know Canelo is such a great boxer and he's undoubtedly has undefeated record but yeah this kind of opportunity of seeing his soon to be opponent fighting in the ring will be his basis on what kind of strategy does he need to prepare or does he has anything to improve to himself. Though I have a gut that Canelo will be a winner in case, I don't also set aside the potential and skill of Makabu this man is also a great fighter.
Maybe we need to wait and see as well the fight between Makabu vs. Mchunu and assess whichever will win have a good chance against Canelo. Maybe even before the announcement, Canelo is really eyeing Makabu to be his next opponent in his quest for a new weight class to fight, meaning Makabu is already in the radar and he already is familiar with his style. And he just make a formal announcement during the WBC convention that indeed he will skip light heavy and go directly to cruiserweight.

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December 02, 2021, 03:12:15 PM
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Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate.



He doesn't have to he doesn't have a chance to equal the eight-division titles but he can do better by fighting the best and beating them and becoming a great attraction in boxing and of course be a classic champion that will be respected for many generations, Ali is a three-time champion but there are champions that surpass that records, but he is well respected and so is Julio Cezar Chavez, there are a lot of ways to become great champions.
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Canelo needs to move in weight if he wants to be at least near Manny Pacquiao's achievement as the only 8th division world champion. This is another step for him and if he will win and be a champion in a higher division then that would be so exciting, however, with his height, I doubt he will dominate.


As long as he can give a good fight or their match will be not boring to watch he can still be popular. Pacquio is too good to compare to any boxer but aure they can still be able to achieve Pacquio’s achievement if they can perform well even in any division. As I watch boxing I prefer for more a entertaining match with fight that are not more on run or hugs. So if he can give a excitement and remarkable match he have a chance to atleast be close into what Pacquio’s reach.



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December 02, 2021, 05:37:06 PM
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Makabu is compared to Canelo Alvarez, as the biblical Goliath is compared to the Jewish shepherd David.  

Canelo Alvarez is only 173 centimeters tall.  Makabu's height is 183 centimeters.  Alvarez's arms span is only 179 centimeters.  Makabu's arms span is 188 centimeters.  

Makabu is a titan, a monster ...

He will drive Canelo Alvarez into the ground, like a builder drives a pile into the ground with a sledgehammer.  At the same time, Makabu is very fast.  Has excellent characteristics.  He is tireless in battle.  

In my opinion, Canelo will lose.

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