[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu

[goinmerry]

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

[Questat]

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that.

[Silberman]

There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division.

Per https://box.live/world-rankings/cruiserweight/. Makabu is actually number 2 in ranking, so he is really a good fighter in his division, but look at the betting odds, he is an underdog against Canelo, so I think there are not many quality boxers in cruiserweight division.

The odds are nowhere near exact, we must remember that even if the casinos think that Makabu is the favorite if the fans begin to bet overwhelmingly in favor of Canelo then they need to improve the odds for Canelo to the point he becomes the favorite, this is a known issue when it comes to sports bets, as popular figures or teams are preferred by casual bettors, and casinos need to take this into account when they release their odds.

[goinmerry]

The odds are nowhere near exact, we must remember that even if the casinos think that Makabu is the favorite if the fans begin to bet overwhelmingly in favor of Canelo then they need to improve the odds for Canelo to the point he becomes the favorite, this is a known issue when it comes to sports bets, as popular figures or teams are preferred by casual bettors, and casinos need to take this into account when they release their odds.

Gambling sites are just referring to the general odds provided by all bookies.

There will be no reason at all for them to justify their odds as long as it was close to the public odds released globally. I don't remember any issues regarding Favorites that were being questioned or Underdog on the other way around.

If I missed some issues related to that, can you provide me with an example? For me to have a good read that such cases happened mostly.

[Kemarit]

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that.

Nope, not the first time, he fights in 168 lbs before and then jump to 175 lbs (LHW) and then challenge Kovalev gets the belt and then goes down to 168 lbs again and said that he won't go back to LHW and then clean up the Super MW division and then jumps to CW with a potential Makabu fight.

So he is familiar with jumping on the weight class, but this time though it is a big weight disparity at it will be in the 190 lbs.

[Fundamentals Of]

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that.

Nope, not the first time, he fights in 168 lbs before and then jump to 175 lbs (LHW) and then challenge Kovalev gets the belt and then goes down to 168 lbs again and said that he won't go back to LHW and then clean up the Super MW division and then jumps to CW with a potential Makabu fight.

So he is familiar with jumping on the weight class, but this time though it is a big weight disparity at it will be in the 190 lbs.

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

[molsewid]

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

[Sled]

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

Exactly, one step at a time, if Canelo could win here, he can get some fights with the other champions on the same division. This guy is really up to a challenge, I mean, he wouldn't be in his position now if he does not keep pushing himself to his limit and I believe he has not achieve his limit yet since he is fighter in a heavier division and fore sure a more challenging division than his past divisions.

[Natalim]

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

Exactly, one step at a time, if Canelo could win here, he can get some fights with the other champions on the same division. This guy is really up to a challenge, I mean, he wouldn't be in his position now if he does not keep pushing himself to his limit and I believe he has not achieve his limit yet since he is fighter in a heavier division and fore sure a more challenging division than his past divisions.

I'm sure he will win this fight, the odds difference is very convincing that even is Makabu is a natural heavy fighter but Canelo is more talented as a boxer. The opening odds pretty much tells everything.

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu-odds/

Boxing odds: Canelo Alvarez -700 favorite / Ilunga Makabu +500 underdog.
Canelo aims to become a five-weight world champion with a win over Makabu.
Boxing fans are more familiar with Ilunga Makabu losing by KO to Tony Bellew in 2016.

[Jating]

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

175 lbs is for Light Heavy Weight, 190 lbs is for Cruiserweight. Maybe Canelo will weight between 180-190 lbs fighting in this division because for sure it will be hard for him to go to 200 lbs walking.

Well he can lift weights to gain body muscle but it might affect his speed, which will be his biggest advantage against a natural cruiserweight like Makabu.

[Fredomago]

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

175 lbs is for Light Heavy Weight, 190 lbs is for Cruiserweight. Maybe Canelo will weight between 180-190 lbs fighting in this division because for sure it will be hard for him to go to 200 lbs walking.

Well he can lift weights to gain body muscle but it might affect his speed, which will be his biggest advantage against a natural cruiserweight like Makabu.

He needs to work more to keep his speed even he's gaining weight, like what you just said, his speed will be his greatest advantage to
a natural cruiserweight division. If he can fight the way he originally has, even with this weight, the chance of winning is much better. Knowing Alvarez, he will do everything to excel.

He choose to step up. There must be a good reason aside from money. We will be the witness if he can proceed and bring more fights
from this new division.

[Questat]

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

175 lbs is for Light Heavy Weight, 190 lbs is for Cruiserweight. Maybe Canelo will weight between 180-190 lbs fighting in this division because for sure it will be hard for him to go to 200 lbs walking.

Well he can lift weights to gain body muscle but it might affect his speed, which will be his biggest advantage against a natural cruiserweight like Makabu.

He needs to work more to keep his speed even he's gaining weight, like what you just said, his speed will be his greatest advantage to
a natural cruiserweight division. If he can fight the way he originally has, even with this weight, the chance of winning is much better. Knowing Alvarez, he will do everything to excel.

He choose to step up. There must be a good reason aside from money. We will be the witness if he can proceed and bring more fights
from this new division.

I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way.

[agustina2]

I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way.

Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long.

In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally.

[Fredomago]

I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way.

Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long.

In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally.

He and his camp knows that there's a big chance for him to win in this new division that's why they decided to move up, he needs to showcase his skills to win this fight and convince every viewers that he's fit to this new weight class. Not easy as how you described it and I completely following you with your opinion.

We can say that he's fit enough once he brings down Makabu for his first fight from this new weight division.

[Kemarit]

I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way.

Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long.

In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally.

Or we can say that he was 'force' to move up in weight because he has clean up the 168 lbs and he doesn't want to go back to 160 lbs anymore. He has tried 175 lbs division defeated Kovalev but there are 2 good champions waiting, Beterviev and Bivol.

So the next best option and challenge for him is to go up to 180-200 which is CW and challenge the champion and get another belt for history.

[Cling18]

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

Canelo has a huge potential in this industry. We've seen how he defended different titles which only proves that he's making a good name in the boxing field. Makabu is also a tough fighter but compared to Canelo, he's a bit weak and still has a lot to prove. I hope that he'll learn how to defeat Canelo's promising moves in the ring.

[Oasisman]

I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way.

Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long.

In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally.

So the next best option and challenge for him is to go up to 180-200 which is CW and challenge the champion and get another belt for history.

That is obviously the best option for him after he beats all the undefeated in the super middle weight division.
History for him will happen if he can beat Makabu.
This might not going to be an easy win, because climbing a weight division is a lot more riskier than the usual weight division he's fighting.
It's rare to see a fighter dominating every weight division he climbed like Manny.

[Questat]

I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way.

Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long.

In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally.

So the next best option and challenge for him is to go up to 180-200 which is CW and challenge the champion and get another belt for history.

That is obviously the best option for him after he beats all the undefeated in the super middle weight division.
History for him will happen if he can beat Makabu.
This might not going to be an easy win, because climbing a weight division is a lot more riskier than the usual weight division he's fighting.
It's rare to see a fighter dominating every weight division he climbed like Manny.

He won't make another history by just beating Makabu, I guess he needs a tougher job and that is to dominate the Cruiserweight division and be an undisputed once again, not sure if someone had already done that but Canelo will surely make another mark on the history if he ever gets the success in this division.

[Dave1]

I read some posts online that the higher the weight class the better the pay, so money is not a problem if Canelo would excel here as he will surely get big fights and be paid better than he was paid in the division he reign, after this, he can to go light heavyweight but let's not presume it now, it's too early, he has to win this fight first and it should be in a convincing way.

Yes before anything else, Canelo should win first his first match on a different division. The result will determine if he's really fit in that division. I don't see him losing but I don't look at it as an easy win. There's a big difference competing in a much higher weight class but I know Canelo can surely manage it and already preparing for it for long.

In the first place, he won't decide to move up if he's not prepared physically and mentally.

So the next best option and challenge for him is to go up to 180-200 which is CW and challenge the champion and get another belt for history.

That is obviously the best option for him after he beats all the undefeated in the super middle weight division.
History for him will happen if he can beat Makabu.
This might not going to be an easy win, because climbing a weight division is a lot more riskier than the usual weight division he's fighting.
It's rare to see a fighter dominating every weight division he climbed like Manny.

He won't make another history by just beating Makabu, I guess he needs a tougher job and that is to dominate the Cruiserweight division and be an undisputed once again, not sure if someone had already done that but Canelo will surely make another mark on the history if he ever gets the success in this division.

I think it's more of a challenge for him, he embraces it that's why he moves up in weight again to cruiserweight and test himself against a natural bigger guy in Makabu. And that is the true spirit of a champion, willing to take risk and his record.

And if Canelo past this one, there is no question that he is the best pound for pound boxer in the planet. No discussions about it. The second place could be between  Loma or Bud Crawford. But Canelo is way above in the list.