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September 17, 2025, 09:10:08 AM
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Only expert can actually tell how effective their anti-fingerprinting feature
There are many websites that test your browser fingerprint. I tried the first 8 I found.
The most browser-details are shown by amiunique.org/fingerprint:
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You are unique among the 4341145 fingerprints in our entire dataset.
That's slightly disappointing, I would have hoped Tor browser settings are the same for many other users. But there are just too many browser details, from Use agent to audio formats, fonts and screen resolution that vary.

My favourite misinformation (thanks Tor browser) is shown by fingerprint.com:
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Your visit summary
You visited 20+ times
Note: I've never visited this site before, so I'm hiding in the crowd.

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Only expert can actually tell how effective their anti-fingerprinting feature
There are many websites that test your browser fingerprint. I tried the first 8 I found.
The most browser-details are shown by amiunique.org/fingerprint:
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You are unique among the 4341145 fingerprints in our entire dataset.
That's slightly disappointing, I would have hoped Tor browser settings are the same for many other users. But there are just too many browser details, from Use agent to audio formats, fonts and screen resolution that vary.

My favourite misinformation (thanks Tor browser) is shown by fingerprint.com:
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Your visit summary
You visited 20+ times
Note: I've never visited this site before, so I'm hiding in the crowd.

I'm aware of such website, but i expect to have some bias since people who visit their website is probably people with privacy concern. In addition, each tracker may collect different information or have different approach for fingerprinting.

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September 17, 2025, 12:26:44 PM
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I wonder if he cleared cookies and absolutely everythin in Browser before using Windscribe? Also, what Browser was he using?
Windscribe mentioned in their blog that clearing cookies has little to no impact on getting a unique fingerprint [unfortunately] and I believe he/she was using Chrome.

For those who have concern about browser fingerprint, they should consider using either Tor Browser or Mullvad Browser. Mullvad Browser is fork of Tor Browser, without using Tor connection and you can use it without touching Mullvad service at all.
In addition, each tracker may collect different information or have different approach for fingerprinting.
I just tried Mullvad browser [with their VPN] and although it showed having strong protection against some trackers, I still experienced what LoyceV did with Tor [I guess a perfect solution doesn't exist yet].

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September 17, 2025, 12:43:04 PM
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I still experienced what LoyceV did with Tor [I guess a perfect solution doesn't exist yet].
I tried this again:
Yes! You are unique among the 4341809 fingerprints in our entire dataset.
And again:
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Yes! You are unique among the 4341810 fingerprints in our entire dataset.
And again:
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Yes! You are unique among the 4341815 fingerprints in our entire dataset.
I'm not sure what changed, but it looks like it can't link my Tor browser sessions.

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September 18, 2025, 08:46:28 AM
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For those who have concern about browser fingerprint, they should consider using either Tor Browser or Mullvad Browser. Mullvad Browser is fork of Tor Browser, without using Tor connection and you can use it without touching Mullvad service at all.
In addition, each tracker may collect different information or have different approach for fingerprinting.
I just tried Mullvad browser [with their VPN] and although it showed having strong protection against some trackers, I still experienced what LoyceV did with Tor [I guess a perfect solution doesn't exist yet].

I would say perfect solution can't be exist. Browser these days have so many functionality, that rely on many different technology. From what i have read, technology such as Canvas and WebGL aren't designed with privacy in mind. JavaScript also can be used to identify your hardware (such as RAM capacity and total CPU thread).

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September 18, 2025, 09:24:05 PM
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 #306

There is another new VPN released recently coming directly from Tor project, and it is called Tor VPN.
This is early beta phase of this project but it is strange to me they are offering this VPN totally for free.
Downside is that you can only use it on Android smartphones for now, and it's pretty basic for now:
https://support.torproject.org/tor-vpn/

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Consider this VPN as experimental only.

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September 19, 2025, 07:24:28 AM
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There is another new VPN released recently coming directly from Tor project, and it is called Tor VPN.
This sounds a lot like Orbot, and the only difference I can find is that Orbot mobile doesn't seem to be created by the Tor Project (unlike Orbot, which is created by the Tor Project).

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it is strange to me they are offering this VPN totally for free.
I wouldn't call it a VPN, it's just an app that uses the existing Tor network, which runs on nodes paid for by volunteers (and intelligence agencies, and data tracking companies....).

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September 19, 2025, 07:33:33 AM
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I wouldn't call it a VPN, it's just an app that uses the existing Tor network, which runs on nodes paid for by volunteers (and intelligence agencies, and data tracking companies....).

Isn’t by default that a VPN has an entity that manages the servers to which the users connect?
If that’s the case, then Tor VPN could simply what you explain above.

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September 19, 2025, 07:40:42 AM
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Isn’t by default that a VPN has an entity that manages the servers to which the users connect?
Both Orbot and Tor VPN allow users to select the country for their exit node. I don't think they'll let you choose your entry node.

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September 19, 2025, 12:15:57 PM
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Are there any Windscribe users here who have recently tried their latest anti-fingerprinting feature to see its effectiveness? Introducing Anti-Fingerprinting: Because “Incognito” Isn’t Fooling Anyone
- FWIW, I have mixed feelings about using it, since it requires using an extension (I rarely trust them) while appearing to be free (making me the product) and lastly, a Reddit user mentioned getting a "slightly worse result"!

Only expert can actually tell how effective their anti-fingerprinting feature, although i expect extension can't be that effective. For those who have concern about browser fingerprint, they should consider using either Tor Browser or Mullvad Browser. Mullvad Browser is fork of Tor Browser, without using Tor connection and you can use it without touching Mullvad service at all.
Honestly I haven't used the new feature of Windscribe yet but I would be wary for the same reasons you've stated. Browser fingerprinting is very hard to protect against, due to the fact that dozens of variables are required to create it, including fonts, screen size, hardware quirks and even clock skew. Typically, one extension is not enough, and in some cases, it will make your fingerprint more unique rather than less so.

Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser are better for the long-term since the whole product is based on homogeneity. It looks almost the same for everyone using them, which is the opposite of what happens with a niche extension. Even then, habits like logging into personal accounts and resizing windows still need to be handled, as those can break anonymity.
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September 23, 2025, 07:15:51 PM
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I wouldn't call it a VPN, it's just an app that uses the existing Tor network, which runs on nodes paid for by volunteers (and intelligence agencies, and data tracking companies....).
They are calling it VPN, I am just a messenger, so you can send them your complains Wink

I tried testing Tor VPN in my emulator but for some reason it was not working correctly, so I can't give any real feedback, but better use this app at your own risk.
 

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September 27, 2025, 12:06:09 PM
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There is another new VPN released recently coming directly from Tor project, and it is called Tor VPN.
This is early beta phase of this project but it is strange to me they are offering this VPN totally for free.
Downside is that you can only use it on Android smartphones for now, and it's pretty basic for now:
https://support.torproject.org/tor-vpn/

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Consider this VPN as experimental only.

It should be tested in action, but I think that in the long run, it will be an ineffective tool against censorship. Of course, it all depends on the country, but it's worth noting that some censors can easily detect the list of obfs4 bridges used in Tor VPN and block them.

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I recently discovered that some countries aren't monetized by Youtube. That means no ads Smiley
On my normal system my browser takes care of this, but on TV a VPN in Albania works like a charm.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work on my end when I tested an Albanian server using Mullvad
Fun is over for me too Sad The kids are complaining about commercials, so I need a new "life hack" for Youtube without ads. Or I'll just stop watching Youtube.

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Fun is over for me too Sad The kids are complaining about commercials, so I need a new "life hack" for Youtube without ads. Or I'll just stop watching Youtube.
Sorry to hear that... Perhaps you can use your TV to extend the display in your main or secondary PC [preferably this one] and just get a wireless keyboard with a trackpad to eliminate the need for a wireless mouse [a unified remote could also work, but I prefer a keyboard more].
- BTW, Windscribe "recently posted" something about YouTube ads that caught my attention and I wonder if those images are real since I've never gotten more than two ads at a time.

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It appears that Surfshark is the only one on the list that isn't linked to its respective pricing page.

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Fun is over for me too Sad The kids are complaining about commercials, so I need a new "life hack" for Youtube without ads. Or I'll just stop watching Youtube.
Or you can get a cheap Turkish account and not only get rid of ads but also get some premium features, of course if it worth for you to pay a few bucks once a year.

BTW, Windscribe "recently posted" something about YouTube ads that caught my attention and I wonder if those images are real since I've never gotten more than two ads at a time.
I've never seen so many ads on YouTube. The max that I've seen was three short video ads in a row but usually I see two ads.

@Synchronice
It appears that Surfshark is the only one on the list that isn't linked to its respective pricing page.
Thank you for noticing that. As it seems, SurfShark increased prices and instead of €12.95, one month costs €15.45 now. The price for 27 months stays the same, I'll update the thread.


By the way, what do you guys think about Incogni? It's a subscription-based personal information removal service and is a part of Nord Security company. I had no idea that such a service was available. I assume it's another bullshit service created to make more money.

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Or you can get a cheap Turkish account and not only get rid of ads but also get some premium features, of course if it worth for you to pay a few bucks once a year.
That feels like paying for blackmail, I refuse to do that.
What if everyone keeps Youtube playing on a muted tab on a virtual screen? Let them pay for ads nobody sees Tongue

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I only know them from their agressive product placements inside Youtube videos. I see no reason to ever pay more than Mullvad charges.

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I recently discovered that some countries aren't monetized by Youtube. That means no ads Smiley
On my normal system my browser takes care of this, but on TV a VPN in Albania works like a charm.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work on my end when I tested an Albanian server using Mullvad
Fun is over for me too Sad The kids are complaining about commercials, so I need a new "life hack" for Youtube without ads. Or I'll just stop watching Youtube.

How about using Firefox (with uBlock Origin) or Youtube unofficial app (that block/hide ads) no longer works on your case? It still works (most of the time) for me.

By the way, what do you guys think about Incogni? It's a subscription-based personal information removal service and is a part of Nord Security company. I had no idea that such a service was available. I assume it's another bullshit service created to make more money.

I prefer not to use such service, since
1. The success rate is rather low. See https://innovation.consumerreports.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Data-Defense_-Evaluating-People-Search-Site-Removal-Services-.pdf, page 11 table 2.
2. You need to give some of your personal data to the service provider. That means you need to seriously trust them.
3. Malicious service provider can turn such service into verifiable personal data.
4. There's a case where CEO of such service also own service that collect user personal data. Here's an example, https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/03/ceo-of-data-privacy-company-onerep-com-founded-dozens-of-people-search-firms/.

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September 29, 2025, 09:17:26 AM
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How about using Firefox (with uBlock Origin) or Youtube unofficial app (that block/hide ads) no longer works on your case?
I don't have a problem on my PC, the problem is on TV. I've tried an unofficial Youtube app, which worked shortly, until it needed an update. But installing it is such a pain, I didn't bother to do it again. Now that a VPN no longer works for this purpose, I'll stop going off-topic now about ads.

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That feels like paying for blackmail, I refuse to do that.
What if everyone keeps Youtube playing on a muted tab on a virtual screen? Let them pay for ads nobody sees Tongue
They recently stopped playing videos for me and showing some weird errors when I played them with brave browser, I guess because brave is blocking ads and they don't like it  Tongue
I think they started doing something similar with other browsers that use uBlock extension, but they are not affecting all users yet.
I won't be surprised if they start asking everyone for ID verification soon  Roll Eyes 

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