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November 30, 2025, 07:35:09 PM
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Thanks guys for sharing these deals. After all, decided to go with Windscribe. Tried it for few days and it's ok. Only disadvantage that on several locations speed is very low, what makes it barely possible to use.

NYM VPN currently have 75% Black Friday deal, and being decentralized they have advantage compared to other VPN services.
You can also pay directly with bitcoin, monero and other coins, without even using email or any personal information, since there is no usual registration.
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It's first time when I hear NYM VPN, I don't remember was it mentioned in this topic before. Probably it should be included in OP.

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December 01, 2025, 05:25:07 PM
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I know people who are using it for years and they are very happy with it.
 
I am one of them and I am indeed very happy with it. Its very fast and reliable, and I had no issues with it whatsoever.



Thanks guys for sharing these deals. After all, decided to go with Windscribe. Tried it for few days and it's ok. Only disadvantage that on several locations speed is very low, what makes it barely possible to use.
I hope its not one of those locations that you use on the regular basis because (imho), slow VPN is basically useless.

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December 05, 2025, 04:15:05 PM
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I know I promised you months ago that I would review NYM but I forgot it. But today I did a quick review. This VPN looks interesting but surprisingly, there is not much information available about it, despite the fact that this VPN seems quite different from others with its technology.

NYM uses a Mixnet technology, which seems similar to Tor. It makes data packets to appear identical in size and form and obscures real traffic pattern.

Here is the NYM whitelitepaper.
I'll be frank, there is a lot information about NYM vpn and it will take me a lot of time to carefully read each line and then do research. I'll be glad if anyone with experience can share what makes NYM different from other VPNs and how truly they back their words (whether what they say is playing with nice words or actually makes sense). A good thing about NYM is that it's open-source.

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December 14, 2025, 08:36:51 AM
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Windscribe just announced a new method of signing up. Now you can create an account and log in via your hash. You click on a sign up button, then click on Hashed (next to Standard), then upload a file and it will show you the hash of your file, you copy the hash, save it securely and then you'll be able to log in via your hash instead of your email. I bet people will use their memes or NFTs to log in via this method.

I don't know what others think but I prefer Mullvad's approach but it would be quite interesting to hear your opinions.


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December 14, 2025, 09:32:11 AM
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I bet people will use their memes or NFTs to log in via this method.
~it would be quite interesting to hear your opinions.
You said it: people will use public images for this. Give it some time, and you can access someone else's account by hashing a meme. They should have created a random hash instead.

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December 15, 2025, 10:55:17 PM
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They should have created a random hash instead.
I am reading what they posted on their website about this feature, and they have randomly generated hash as default option.
It's silly to enable upload of images, especially knowing that people will not use it correctly.
https://windscribe.com/knowledge-base/articles/hashed-login/

I think NYM vpn is doing login the right way with 24-word passphrase, and no personal details.
They are currently offering holiday special 75% discount, and 87% if paid with NYM tokens.

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If someone is still using OpenVPN, don't forget it's shutting down on January 15th 2026!

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December 16, 2025, 08:07:27 AM
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I don't know what others think but I prefer Mullvad's approach but it would be quite interesting to hear your opinions.
Same here, but based on the link dkbit98 provided, it appears that you can directly generate or provide your own hash as well.
- IMO, they should get rid of the third option that you explained the other day.

They are currently offering holiday special 75% discount, and 87% if paid with NYM tokens.
It's a tempting offer [especially since we can use a single account on up to 10 devices], but what happens when someone exceeds their 2TB monthly fair usage limit?

BTW, for those living in countries with strict censorship, IVPN recently added "V2Ray Obfuscation" to all of its supported platforms.

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December 16, 2025, 09:13:10 AM
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I bet people will use their memes or NFTs to log in via this method.
~it would be quite interesting to hear your opinions.
You said it: people will use public images for this. Give it some time, and you can access someone else's account by hashing a meme. They should have created a random hash instead.

It reminds me of brainwallet, where people assume their text is unique or wouldn't guessed by other people. But with image (and few different file type), compression and various standard would make the hash different which makes brute-force more trickily.

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I think NYM vpn is doing login the right way with 24-word passphrase, and no personal details.
I always thought Mullvad's 16 digits are a bit short. Let's say they have 10 million users, that makes it a 1 in 100,000 chance of guessing an existing account number. But I assume they know what they're doing, and the problem is probably only theoretical.
NYM's 24-word is the opposite: it's excessive. That makes it more work than needed to enter, especially on mobile. It's not as if anyone can brute-force billions of combinations per second, and even then, 12 words would have been more than enough.

what happens when someone exceeds their 2TB monthly fair usage limit?
I know people often complain about fair use limits, but I actually like them. Not having a limit means a very small number of customers are responsible for a large part of the total cost, and make everyone else pay slightly more for the service.
2 TB per month is almost 3 GB per hour on average.

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It's a tempting offer [especially since we can use a single account on up to 10 devices], but what happens when someone exceeds their 2TB monthly fair usage limit?
Offer is not bad, but it's not that easy to get native NYM tokens for additional discount.
It's unlikely that will ever happen unless you know you are going to spend over 66.7 GB every single day.
But you can always create second account, or just use any other VPN like Mullvad for day or two.

NYM's 24-word is the opposite: it's excessive. That makes it more work than needed to enter, especially on mobile. It's not as if anyone can brute-force billions of combinations per second, and even then, 12 words would have been more than enough.
Maybe, but most of us got used to 12 and 24 seed words for bitcoin wallets, so this should not be an issue.
Only negative thing is that you can't recover account if you lose seed words, so better save multiple backups in secure places.

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I know people often complain about fair use limits, but I actually like them. Not having a limit means a very small number of customers are responsible for a large part of the total cost, and make everyone else pay slightly more for the service.
2 TB per month is almost 3 GB per hour on average.
It's unlikely that will ever happen unless you know you are going to spend over 66.7 GB every single day.
But you can always create second account, or just use any other VPN like Mullvad for day or two.
Both of you have a point, but 2TB is nothing [unfortunately] for those who either prefer to watch a lot of content in 4k or those who are gamers & content creators [downloading & updating game files (usually it's a few times a month for each game) + streaming content and uploading the edited versions to a few platforms].
- Mullvad doesn't have a data cap, but the number of connected devices on each account is a bit low, so I was debating whether to make the switch or stick to Mullvad (I'll probably keep using the latter one with two accounts).

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2TB is nothing [unfortunately] for those who either prefer to watch a lot of content in 4k or those who are gamers & content creators [downloading & updating game files (usually it's a few times a month for each game) + streaming content and uploading the edited versions to a few platforms].
Those are the rare exceptions, although increased video resolutions must make most users go up in bandwidth consumption over the years.

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- Mullvad doesn't have a data cap, but the number of connected devices on each account is a bit low, so I was debating whether to make the switch or stick to Mullvad (I'll probably keep using the latter one with two accounts).
I'm curious: what devices do you use this for? I count 2 at most at home: TV and laptop.

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- Mullvad doesn't have a data cap, but the number of connected devices on each account is a bit low
Hah, I am using Mullvad for a couple of years and have quite a few devices in my house and never had issue with this.

Really curious to hear how many devices you have connected on the regular basis.


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I'm curious: what devices do you use this for? I count 2 at most at home: TV and laptop.
Really curious to hear how many devices you have connected on the regular basis.
Two desktops [one is for gaming and the other one is for general stuff & streaming (with the help of a capture card) on a different internet connection], a laptop, an Android tablet and my phone [the other Mullvad account is for other family members].
- I used to have an iPad as well (because of its exclusive sketch apps), but Mullvad's window for logging out devices was quite buggy and annoying at that time.

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They should have created a random hash instead.
I am reading what they posted on their website about this feature, and they have randomly generated hash as default option.
It's silly to enable upload of images, especially knowing that people will not use it correctly.
https://windscribe.com/knowledge-base/articles/hashed-login/
I wanted to give away free VPN account on Bitcointalk and I remember I asked LoyceV about that but I don't remember the details of his response (I couldn't just give away it as I remember). By the way, this method is very creative. I can upload an image on talkimg, post here and if someone tries it out on Windscribe, they might get access to a free VPN that can be filled with a surprise plan Cheesy


I thought that if you upload an image on a website and download it later on your computer, the hash of the image file would be different because of a different metadata (I mean date created & date modified details) but seems I was wrong.
Surprisingly, when I opened the file in Photoshop and saved it and then uploaded on Windscribe, the hash didn't change (did something wrong happen?) but when I changed the name of the file, hash changed.

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when I changed the name of the file, hash changed.
It sounds like they include the file name in the data before hashing. Still, it's a terrible idea Tongue

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In the same way, you can create brainwallets. And I wouldn't be surprised if some people out there are scraping the web to check for a Bitcoin balance in sha256 hashes created from files.

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Both of you have a point, but 2TB is nothing [unfortunately]
Even if you watched movies in high resolution non-stop every day, you won't have enough time to watch so much movies and spend so much GB every single day.... it's simple math.
It would be possible only if you are sharing the same account with multiple people who are all doing the same thing like you.
You could check at your current VPN setup and see how much data you are spending, and NYM vpn is relatively new, so they probably won't keep 2TB limits forever.

  

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Even if you watched movies in high resolution non-stop every day, you won't have enough time to watch so much movies and spend so much GB every single day.... it's simple math.
In case my previous posts weren't clear, my response was based on my own experience! I don't want to go into details here, but watching a 4K video at 60fps consumes around "15-23 GB/hour", so it's not that hard to exceed those limits if you normally spend 10-14 hours in front of computers [especially with multi-monitor setups] and encrypted VPN traffics usually adds another 5% to 20% to the mix [unfortunately].
- It's worth noting that for those of us who upload our gameplay content to YouTube & similar platforms and care about its overall quality, we have to record at a higher bitrate to counteract YouTube's compression, especially for fast-paced shooter games (e.g., 20 to 30-minute videos that I upload are larger than the reported data for watching such content for an hour).

You could check at your current VPN setup and see how much data you are spending,
If you were referring to its GUI, it's possible with some VPN providers, but AFAIK, Mullvad doesn't log that kind of data.

and NYM vpn is relatively new, so they probably won't keep 2TB limits forever.
I hope you weren't referring to them lowering the limits, because 8K content is in the corner [it's already there, but in a few years, it'll be on a larger scale].

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Are you sure that you have to upload content with high bitrate in order to achieve a high quality on YouTube? From my experience, converting video via Handbrake with optimal settings for YouTube content (you can experiment with this) is the best choice. I've also noticed that video quality is significantly high when I watch videos at 1440p quality.
Unfortunately, yes... Thank you for the suggestion, but based on another similar program that I use for my conversions, I can't lower my bitrate any further because it'll lead to some artifacts [e.g., when there are fast movements and in parts with a lot of shadows].
- I've also played with variable bitrates, but the end result usually isn't that good.

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In case my previous posts weren't clear, my response was based on my own experience! I don't want to go into details here, but watching a 4K video at 60fps consumes around "15-23 GB/hour", so it's not that hard to exceed those limits if you normally spend 10-14 hours in front of computers [especially with multi-monitor setups] and encrypted VPN traffics usually adds another 5% to 20% to the mix [unfortunately].
- It's worth noting that for those of us who upload our gameplay content to YouTube & similar platforms and care about its overall quality, we have to record at a higher bitrate to counteract YouTube's compression, especially for fast-paced shooter games (e.g., 20 to 30-minute videos that I upload are larger than the reported data for watching such content for an hour).
Watching 4K content consumes significant bandwidth but if you watch movies, it's still not high because even 4K movies on Netflix, Hulu, Amazon and other streaming serices, are still highly compressed. If you download 4K Blu-ray rips from torrent websites and want to enjoy the maximum quality, then sure, it will consume that much. If you also watch 4K twitch streams, that might consume that much bandwidth too because as far as I know, they use less compression compared to movie streaming platforms.


Are you sure that you have to upload content with high bitrate in order to achieve a high quality on YouTube? From my experience, converting video via Handbrake with optimal settings for YouTube content (you can experiment with this) is the best choice. I've also noticed that video quality is significantly high when I watch videos at 1440p quality.

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December 18, 2025, 08:37:17 PM
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Even if you watched movies in high resolution non-stop every day, you won't have enough time to watch so much movies and spend so much GB every single day.... it's simple math.
I think for some its just the thought of having a limit of bandwith that makes them avoid VPNs with that "feature". At least I know that's how it is for me, I simply woulnd't want to have that over my head, especially since quality VPNs with no limit (like Mullvad) are still pretty affordable.

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