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September 29, 2026, 08:01:19 PM
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Looks like I'll move to Nord for that purpose then. I guess I'll buy 2 different VPNs for different purpose. It doesn't seem ideal to use my current VPN for consuming content since the quality got significantly worse recently. Probably can do fine for browsing though.

As for Kape, didn't we have similar discussions about them before? I' not sure if it's this thread or not, but I remember many people saying we should avoid anything related to Kape. I'm surprised some of them still exist on the list.

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October 11, 2026, 09:37:04 AM
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I edited the list of VPN service providers. This time, I added Obscura and NYM VPN to Privacy Focused VPNs list.

I added Obscura into Privacy Focused VPNs list because the project is very interesting. It feels like using a two VPN together but in a well-configured client. Obscura knows your IP but can't decrypt your traffic while Mullvad knows your traffic but can't see your IP. If we trust Mullvad, then I think that we should trust Obscura too.

I added NYM VPN into Privacy Focused VPNs list because it has a decentralized infrastructure and mixes your traffic with other users' packets and artificial noise, it seems to be a great VPN for traffic-analysis resistance.

If anyone thinks I made a wrong choice, I'm open to discussion. I want this thread to be as good and reliable as possible.

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October 17, 2026, 03:16:25 PM
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Hi Synchronice,

Disclosure first:
I’m the founder of K1VPN. I read through your VPN comparison while looking at what people are discussing in the privacy VPN space and figured another option might be worth a look for the people here.

K1VPN is a fairly new service. We have servers in 54 countries, 93 regular servers and 4 running VLESS/REALITY. Protocols are WireGuard, OpenVPN and IKEv2 and P2P is allowed. You can pay with Bitcoin on-chain, Lightning or Monero through our own self-hosted BTCPay Server, and if you pay with crypto you can open an account without an email or any personal details.

Our apps for Windows and Android are already available in their respective stores. The macOS and iOS apps are currently in review and should go live in a few days.

We have a no-activity-logs policy published on the site. It hasn’t been independently audited yet, so keep that in mind.

Plans are €2.99 for 7 days, €9.99 for 30 days, €25.99 for 3 months, €39.99 for 6 months, €59.88 for 1 year and €95.76 for 2 years.

For Bitcointalk members there’s about 30% extra time on anything bought by December 31, 2026. The total gets rounded up, so 7 days becomes 10, 30 days becomes 40, etc...

To claim it, send your Bitcointalk username, your K1VPN username, and either the BTCPay order/invoice ID or the on-chain transaction ID through the contact form on our website. Please don’t post those here.

We’ve put a lot of work into this, and we built the kind of service we’d want to use ourselves. We believe privacy should be available to everyone, not just the people who know where to look.

The trouble is that many of the big VPN review sites say openly that they earn money through affiliate links, and those links can influence how providers are ranked. We don’t pay for reviews and we don’t pay to get in lists, so we’ve been left out of most of them. We’re just regular people trying to earn a fair share in a market that’s pretty murky.

So I’d ask you to consider adding K1VPN to your list and let us be judged on how it actually performs.
If it doesn’t hold up, we’d rather hear that than be ignored.

And if this doesn’t fit the thread, sorry about that. Just remove it.

Thanks for reading.
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October 17, 2026, 03:19:32 PM
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I’m the founder of K1VPN.
Can you verify this by posting your username in /bitcointalk.txt on your site?

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Plans are €2.99 for 7 days
Mullvad charges only €1.04 for 7 days. Why would anyone switch to a much newer more expensive service?

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October 17, 2026, 03:37:58 PM
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I’m the founder of K1VPN.
Can you verify this by posting your username in /bitcointalk.txt on your site?

Done. Let me know if you need anything else.

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Plans are €2.99 for 7 days
Mullvad charges only €1.04 for 7 days. Why would anyone switch to a much newer more expensive service?

Fair point, and Mullvad is a solid service with a long track record. Their flat €5 per month is hard to beat for short periods, and our short plans don’t compete with that, so I won’t pretend they do.

On longer plans it looks different, especially with the Bitcointalk bonus. Without it, our 2-year plan is about €3.99 per month and the 1-year plan about €4.99. With the extra 30% access time (purchases until December 31, 2026) the 2-year plan comes to roughly €3.02 per month and the 1-year plan to roughly €3.78. The 6-month plan lands at about €5.10, so it’s more or less on par with Mullvad.

Where we try to offer something different is on the technical side: VLESS/REALITY servers for networks that block regular VPN protocols, alongside WireGuard, OpenVPN and IKEv2. It’s also a small team, so you can talk directly to the person who runs it.

We’re not independently audited yet and I won’t claim otherwise. If you’re happy with Mullvad, there’s probably no reason to switch.
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October 18, 2026, 09:32:20 AM
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Hello and welcome, @k1vpn

What do you think, in which category should your VPN be in this thread? Privacy focused VPNs, Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs or Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs? You are not a mainstream but I also feel like you do not belong to privacy-focused VPN's list because you aren't open-source (at least I couldn't find the information on your website). Your jurisdiction isn't the best for privacy as far as I know too.

I'm open to discussion.

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October 18, 2026, 09:26:39 PM
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Hello and welcome, @k1vpn

What do you think, in which category should your VPN be in this thread? Privacy focused VPNs, Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs or Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs? You are not a mainstream but I also feel like you do not belong to privacy-focused VPN's list because you aren't open-source (at least I couldn't find the information on your website). Your jurisdiction isn't the best for privacy as far as I know too.

I'm open to discussion.

Hi Synchronice and everyone reading this thread, and thank you for giving us the chance to make K1VPN better known. I also appreciate that you’re open to a real discussion. Threads like this help people decide on facts and on what they can check for themselves, rather than on big promises or big-budget advertising.

Before I answer point by point, I’d like to explain who K1VPN is built for, because it answers most of your questions.

Most people use a VPN for ordinary reasons. They don’t want their ISP, advertisers or data brokers building a profile of everything they do online. They use public Wi-Fi, or they live or travel somewhere where websites and information are blocked or monitored. Some are journalists, researchers or activists who simply can’t afford to be tracked. That is who we are building for. We want people not to be watched, not to leave traces, not to be censored, and to reach information that may not be available everywhere, or where their activity is monitored.

We are not interested in customers whose main goal is to download pirated films, watch copyrighted content such as sports without paying for it, or anything involving child abuse material. If that is what someone needs a VPN for, they should look elsewhere, because we don’t want them as customers.

That is also why K1VPN is built the way it is. We are a 100% privacy focused VPN. Customers can pay with Lightning or Monero, and payments are handled only on our own node in an undisclosed location with rotating IPs, with no third-party payment processor in the middle. That makes it almost impossible to link a payment to a person and together with our published no-activity-logs policy, we have nothing that could identify a user.

With that said, here are my answers to your points.

  • On open source, I want to be precise about what is and isn’t open.

First, why our apps exist at all. They are there for beginners who just want to enter a username and password and connect to any country with ease, without dealing with configuration files where it’s easy to make a mistake. Experienced users don’t need them. They can download the configs and set everything up exactly the way they like (providing they know what they are doing).

All our apps are built on open-source WireGuard, so the tunnel and the cryptography underneath them are the same code that is publicly reviewed by the whole community. That being said, K1VPN is fully compatible with open-source clients like WireGuard, OpenVPN and v2rayN, as well as the native VPN clients of most operating systems. That means you are not required to run our apps at all. If you don’t trust our closed-source client, you can connect with the open-source client you already use and trust, and see for yourself what it sends and receives.

What we haven’t published is the code of our own apps and the software behind the service. We don’t want to expose the architecture behind K1VPN, and that covers both the technical side and the organizational side. We are seriously considering opening it, but I won’t promise a date.

One more thing, so the comparison is fair: even with open-source apps, nobody outside the company can verify what happens on the server side. So for any provider, trust comes from how it is built and how it behaves in practice. We would like to be judged on that.

  • On jurisdiction


K1VPN LLC is a US company and I won’t argue that the US is a privacy-friendly jurisdiction on paper. That said, the US legal system strongly respects corporate structures and decisions. To our knowledge, there is no case where a US court forced a VPN provider to hand over data it didn’t have, or, worse, forced it to start logging so it could hand data over. That matters a lot to us. And people with genuinely serious criminal intentions usually have other ways to communicate and don’t depend on a commercial VPN  Wink

I’d also note that the Privacy focused list already includes Obscura, which, as far as we know, is US-based as well, so being incorporated in the US doesn’t seem to be a disqualifier in itself.

K1VPN LLC builds the apps, sells the service, and is responsible for our tax compliance worldwide. Two other companies, both owned by K1VPN LLC and located in two other parts of the world, help ensure the anonymity of our users. We don’t publish where they are and we don’t publish the details of the structure, because that is part of the protection itself.

Honestly, though, this matters less than it sounds. K1VPN is Secure by Default: we don’t keep activity logs and we don’t ask for personal details (crypto payments only), so whichever of our companies receives a request, it cannot hand over something it doesn’t have. For us, that is a huge relief.

So to answer your question directly: I believe K1VPN belongs in the Privacy focused VPNs section, and I’d be glad to be judged there on how the service performs in practice. If you’d like more detail on anything above, just ask, and I’ll share whatever I can disclose.

One last thing. I won’t offer free test access here, because in a thread like this it could look odd. But anyone who wants to try K1VPN in practice can do it for €2.99 with the Bitcointalk bonus, which gives 10 days instead of 7, and decide for themselves whether it suits them.

There is also a 48-hour free trial. It requires a card with no charge, handled by Stripe, and we added that step because abusers and scammers were signing up every minute for free access, and we don’t want them as customers either.

Our privacy policy is published on the site, and paying with Lightning or Monero is the route for privacy that needs neither a card nor an email.

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@k1vpn

Just curious, did you use the same AI for the website and the apps, or did you switch models?

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Today at 08:21:50 AM
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Most people use a VPN for ordinary reasons.
Can you back this up with data?

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They don’t want their ISP, advertisers or data brokers building a profile of everything they do online. They use public Wi-Fi, or they live or travel somewhere where websites and information are blocked or monitored. Some are journalists, researchers or activists who simply can’t afford to be tracked. That is who we are building for. We want people not to be watched, not to leave traces, not to be censored, and to reach information that may not be available everywhere, or where their activity is monitored.

We are not interested in customers whose main goal is to download pirated films, watch copyrighted content such as sports without paying for it, or anything involving child abuse material. If that is what someone needs a VPN for, they should look elsewhere, because we don’t want them as customers.

That is also why K1VPN is built the way it is. We are a 100% privacy focused VPN.
How can you be privacy focused and have a long list of things you do or don't want your customers to do?

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Today at 09:46:57 AM
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Just curious, did you use the same AI for the website and the apps, or did you switch models?



We use AI tools every day, Claude Code and Codex, each for a different job, and we have been working with this kind of model since before it was widely available.

Which tool wrote a line of code is not what makes a VPN trustworthy. What matters is what can be verified.
If you have a specific technical concern about our service, I’m glad to answer it. Which tools we use to write code isn’t one, and I’ll leave it there.

Have a nice day
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What are you trying to prove? that most VPN users are doing something shady, or that a VPN can’t be private if it has Terms of Use? I’ll answer both.

On data: that sentence describes who we build for. It isn’t a statistic from our own users. Public surveys point the same way: a January 2026 PasswordManager.com survey of 2,706 US adults found 65% of VPN users name security or privacy as their primary reason. Streaming is a large second reason, and nobody disputes that (https://www.passwordmanager.com/1-in-3-vpn-users-want-to-hide-online-activity-from-the-government/)

On the terms: in all the providers’ terms I’ve read, the rule is the same everywhere: illegal activity is prohibited. Have you read the terms of the provider you use? And if you know of a provider whose terms explicitly allow illegal use, name it.

Privacy is about what a provider collects. We keep no activity logs, so we don’t watch what customers do. Having rules and having no logs is not a contradiction. The only difference is that we say it plainly instead of leaving it to small print.

Our pages say: “K1VPN protects your privacy, not your bad decisions. Use it responsibly.” That isn’t surveillance. It’s telling people up front what the service is not for.

A general note to everyone: I’m here to tell you about a new service I take seriously, not to argue or to defend the obvious. I’m glad to answer technical questions, within what I can disclose, and that’s where I’ll stay. Nobody is obliged to buy anything, and I said from the start that if this post doesn’t fit the thread, it can be removed.

But small, independent providers need somewhere to be heard too. The market is dominated by a handful of large players with big advertising budgets, and a newer provider has very few places where people can look at it and judge for themselves. That’s all I’m asking for.

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Today at 11:35:23 AM
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Have you read the terms of the provider you use?
Yes. It doesn't tell me what I can or can't do.

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And if you know of a provider whose terms explicitly allow illegal use, name it.
You wrote this:
Some are journalists, researchers or activists who simply can’t afford to be tracked.
Many activists do things their own government doesn't allow. That makes it illegal.
You're not alone in this though:
I can't agree with ProntonVPN's Terms:
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Harassing, abusing, insulting, harming, defaming, slandering, disparaging, intimidating, or discriminating based on gender, sexual orientation, religion, ethnicity, race, age, national origin, or disability
So they don't log anything, but they restrict freedom of speech by telling me I can't tell you you're a dick? I'm insulted by the fact that they think insults have to be regulated.

On the one hand they say this:
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You specifically agree not to use this Service for:

Promoting illegal activities
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We created ProtonVPN to protect the journalists and activists who use ProtonMail.
So which one is it? If a shady government bans something that threatens them, that means an activist won't be allowed to use ProtonVPN to promote overthrowing that government.

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Today at 01:17:26 PM
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I’ll ask (again) directly: what are you trying to prove? So far you’ve asked for data, then pointed at a terms page that says nothing about what you can do, and now at activists in countries with unjust laws. Those are three different arguments, and none of them makes the point your questions imply.

If you think vague terms protect you, they don’t. A terms page that is silent doesn’t make anything legal. Mullvad’s own page says “You are solely responsible for your use of the service.” The law applies to you whether or not your provider lists anything.

In my opinion, users are better served when a provider tells them plainly what the service is for and what it isn’t, instead of leaving them to guess. That is why I wrote it out. Not knowing what you may do with your VPN is a risk for you, not an argument against anyone who spells it out.

Our position is simple, and I wrote it plainly: no logs, no watching customers, and no use of our VPN to harm other people/services.

Proton’s terms are a question for Proton, not for me.

I came here to present a new service and to answer technical questions about it, and I’ll keep doing that for anyone who wants to know more. I’m stopping this discussion here. Thanks to @Synchronice for hosting the thread.
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