[Solved] Pawn account reputation for a few dollar [1xbit participant]

[_BlackStar]

Since I haven't had 7 days active on this forum, message like this always appear above threads created by someone who has been accused of scam. Meanwhile, I have to get used to adapting after my login time reach 7 days and so do other users here.



The message above can be found in the campaign [open] Restart of 1xBit signature campaign - new signatures and more spots! where this campaign is sponsored by a site that has proven to be scamming many previous customers. However, this doesn't seem to deter some users from joining, especially those whose account reputation have been damaged because other scams.

But the different thing I can point out is that the hero members are with a good reputation this time. He started applying for this campaign only after the previous campaign was over and he started pawning his profile just to promote a scam site ^{[not yet using signature & avatar]} for a few $$.

Btctalk name: giammangiato
Btctalk URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=889300
Rank: Hero
Current post count: 898
BTC Address: bc1qyj0e35dmaxctx0sy4jk9r4pxstzf4n5fj7f7kk

I don't think he never knew about the site's bad reputation, he purposely applied for the campaign though in the end he could quibble that it was a mistake after I created this thread. What do you think about this?

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[SmokerFace]

You could've informed them via PM first rather than trying to loot merits here.

[_BlackStar]

You could've informed them via PM first rather than trying to loot merits here.

I'm probably not going to get you to merit me just because of this thread, nor am I going to bother telling DT to stay away from that scam site via PM as he'll know what the trust system function of each user profile. 

[logfiles]

He hasn't yet worn signature advertising the scam, but when he does. I will leave negative feedback on his profile, but some members might probably tag him even for just applying.

Quite disappointed in his choice of attempting to advertise scam with such an old account

Members who trust him should know the kind of person they are trusting, so I will quote them here.

giammangiato's judgement is Trusted by:
1. bitbollo (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 1078 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. fillippone (Trust: +10 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 7234 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

[Stalker22]

Quite disappointed in his choice of attempting to advertise scam with such an old account

Members who trust him should know the kind of person they are trusting, so I will quote them here.

I agree, it is really disappointing that one DT member is willing to sell his reputation for a few lousy bucks. He even tagged one account for advertising sales of forum accounts! Talk about double standards ...

EDIT:
There is some investigation that he is an alt account:

Accounts connected: babo (Legendary) , giammangiato.
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[The Cryptovator]

I don't think he never knew about the site's bad reputation, he purposely applied for the campaign though in the end he could quibble that it was a mistake after I created this thread. What do you think about this?

Any user applying there is well aware of their scam. They consciously apply there to earn money. Because before applying you have to read the main thread where the campaign manager has a couple of red tags and warnings. Applying there means ignoring all the warnings.

I am not jumping for the immediate tag. Send him a PM regarding this thread who applies there. I don't have an intention to tag a Hero user just for applying there though he deserves it.

[Poker Player]

Any user applying there is well aware of their scam.

Are we sure of that in this case?

I don't know the guy, but from what has been said about him here, I think there's a chance he may not be aware. And even more so if we take this into account:



that appears if you are logged out but if you are logged in:



The flag is not visible, unless you go to the manager's trust page.

I am simply saying that there is a possibility.

I am not jumping for the immediate tag. Send him a PM regarding this thread who applies there. I don't have an intention to tag a Hero user just for applying there though he deserves it.

I'm not going to leave him a negative tag either unless he wears the signature.

[Csmiami]

Wow, that's certainly strange coming from that particular user... may be worth doing a deep dive to see if there's any pattern change that may lead us to think the account was hacked/sold at some point... That a big loss for the italian community if that's the case...

@fillippone @bitbollo, you italian guys may want to check this?

[fillippone]

I don’t know anything about this scam, or about any suspicion about being giammangiato an alt account of anyone.
I will send a PM about this to giammangiato.
Ready to take actions according to developments.

[giammangiato]

I don't think he never knew about the site's bad reputation, he purposely applied for the campaign though in the end he could quibble that it was a mistake after I created this thread. What do you think about this?

Any user applying there is well aware of their scam. They consciously apply there to earn money. Because before applying you have to read the main thread where the campaign manager has a couple of red tags and warnings. Applying there means ignoring all the warnings.

I am not jumping for the immediate tag. Send him a PM regarding this thread who applies there. I don't have an intention to tag a Hero user just for applying there though he deserves it.

I apologize to everyone, I answer one at a time:
1- I was not aware of the scam (I have already edited the post ready to delete it)
2- It is not an alternative profile (do I have to send my identity card?)
3- Is it not possible to make mistakes?
I do not intend to harm other users by selecting a scam site (the forum and the users are part of my knowledge, in the cryptocurrency field)

Publicly I apologize, next time I will try not to be distracted by the signature campaign

[babo]

calm people
it's a beginner's mistake, maybe he was distracted

he didn't even sign, so I don't understand all this fury

then, alt account of what? when you want, we show that we are two distinct and separate people

I agree, it is really disappointing that one DT member is willing to sell his reputation for a few lousy bucks. He even tagged one account for advertising sales of forum accounts! Talk about double standards ...

EDIT:
There is some investigation that he is an alt account:

Accounts connected: babo (Legendary) , giammangiato.
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man, i am not giammangiato i am babo

I write in the forum to pass time, not to get paid

Wow, that's certainly strange coming from that particular user... may be worth doing a deep dive to see if there's any pattern change that may lead us to think the account was hacked/sold at some point... That a big loss for the italian community if that's the case...

@fillippone @bitbollo, you italian guys may want to check this?

ask to bitbollo
is a better solution

[Csmiami]

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bitbollo talked with phone with giammangiato, ask him
and he can confirm

I don't really have to. I just pinged a few italians to confirm if everything was OK. It was very strange to see that an actual valuable member would step right into the 1xbit campaign, so I just wanted them to check if everything was OK, as I believe it's easier to confirm this with the locals that share the language. Of course we can all make mistakes, and for what I see, that's pretty much what has happened here (mistake/unawareness) so now that everything is confirmed, this thread doesn't really serve a porpuse.

PS: I don't think there's any alt account here; so that's just a wild goose chase. Let's all take a deep breath.

[babo]

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bitbollo talked with phone with giammangiato, ask him
and he can confirm

I don't really have to. I just pinged a few italians to confirm if everything was OK. It was very strange to see that an actual valuable member would step right into the 1xbit campaign, so I just wanted them to check if everything was OK, as I believe it's easier to confirm this with the locals that share the language. Of course we can all make mistakes, and for what I see, that's pretty much what has happened here (mistake/unawareness) so now that everything is confirmed, this thread doesn't really serve a porpuse.

PS: I don't think there's any alt account here; so that's just a wild goose chase. Let's all take a deep breath.

anyone talk about me, and notify bot https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248878.0 tell me
simple

if ppl talk about ALT ACCOUNT without any proof,i start to getting angry and bad

now one thing is to report scams or scammers
another thing is pissing off for no reason

let's say it was my alt (immagination), do you think I made such a trivial mistake?
i'm user since 2012.. and i know all of this board

[SmokerFace]

Someone: Not alt
Someone else: I am getting angry.
3rd Someone: Look here's the alt connection
4th, 5th, 6th Someone: I don't think it's the right thing to tag them.
7th someone: waiting for other someones to react before I do.
8th Someone: calm down people it's a beginner mistake.

Smokerfok: This case was settled without setting up any examples.

[babo]

@SmokerFace you win my ignore list
gg

I usually don't have time to play with children like you, but since you want to play, let's play
in the past I enjoyed looking for spammers and scammers like you, unfortunately family and work keep me busy
otherwise I'd have fun again

[SmokerFace]

@SmokerFace you win my ignore list
gg

I usually don't have time to play with children like you, but since you want to play, let's play
in the past I enjoyed looking for spammers and scammers like you, unfortunately family and work keep me busy
otherwise I'd have fun again

Daym you just gave me -ve when I said nothing against you or in favor of you 

I would be cautious if you were around me IRL, people like you need to learn this quote through spaced repetition
"Never make a decision when angry and never make a promise when happy"

[babo]

Daym you just gave me -ve when I said nothing against you or in favor of you 

I would be cautious if you were around me IRL, people like you need to learn this quote through spaced repetition
"Never make a decision when angry and never make a promise when happy"

is nice catch sentence, but my lifestyle is different.. i am like Ender of Ender's game
simple different path
you follow yours and i follow mine

once I see certain things I can't hold my nose (i mean your partecipation in scam-site by signature)

[_BlackStar]

I apologize to everyone, I answer one at a time:
1- I was not aware of the scam (I have already edited the post ready to delete it)
2- It is not an alternative profile (do I have to send my identity card?)
3- Is it not possible to make mistakes?
I do not intend to harm other users by selecting a scam site (the forum and the users are part of my knowledge, in the cryptocurrency field)

Publicly I apologize, next time I will try not to be distracted by the signature campaign

giammangiato, you came as expected to settle thing well after a few PM logged into your account. I have guess it.

What I can explain to you at this point is that this thread is not an attempt to gain merit, nor is it my attempt to cause a ruckus without completion. If you are thorough enough before apply at the campaign then I shouldn't bother creating this thread and telling everyone about your interest in promoting proven scam site. As someone who is trusted and experienced in this forum, you should be able to spend some time reviewing the manager's profile and account reputation before you apply your application. It's natural for me to ask about your behavior back then just because all the other users who applied and promoted the site had been red tag but you came like someone who didn't care about anything there.

I'm not talking about alt account and I'm not thinking about hacked account, but your behavior at the time is questionable because you are like someone who want to sell your account reputation for a scam site. So basically ^{[if the fire isn't burning anything around it then there's no reason to put it out]} and neither is your case now. I think everyone is still very likely to make mistake, especially when they do it by accident. This forum is a shared property with approved community standard, so when someone makes a mistake on purpose there is a bounty they will receive in return.

giammangiato, after you clarify your problem then I think the problem is solved. But I'm so sorry babo seem to have started scolding me just for wanting to defend you and he tagged my profile. I don't think this thread has bothered him so much that it sparked his anger because I didn't attack you or him in this case. You should be grateful only because my initiative has made you aware not to fall into promoting scam site ^[1xbit], but since the trust system is not moderated then I think it's just his prerogative to send it to anyone and whenever and whatever the case may be.

giammangiato, next time be careful and take a little time to check everything right even when the campaign pays a lot to its participant.

[babo]

yes i fully agree
sorry but i am stressed cause job at moment and i am getting angry fast
and, i not tag negative.. because i see your job ^{and appreciate it} (i mean scam/spam buster)

in any case, if the error is serious, the user who commits it must take responsibility for it

peace and love

[_BlackStar]

yes i fully agree
sorry but i am stressed cause job at moment and i am getting angry fast
and, i not tag negative.. because i see your job ^{and appreciate it} (i mean scam/spam buster)

in any case, if the error is serious, the user who commits it must take responsibility for it

peace and love

babo, thank you for understanding what I have explained above and this should not provoke your anger, also sorry if I have led other people's opinion to develop the case to be unsettled. Now the problem is solved and I have also seen you remove the neutral tag on my profile.

If you're doubting my profile just because of an email change, then you need to review something here: Quick question about the account _BlackStar

peace ....